2 gunmen w AR15s open fire in Houston; 2 citizens down; 4 cops; PD helicopter shot

[Gracie]

My mind automatically goes to muslim. Or black. Cuz that's how it usually is.

 

[bodecea]

My mind automatically goes to muslim. Or black. Cuz that's how it usually is.

Sure...Columbine, Sandy Hook, Charleston, Colorado, San Isidro, University of Texas...all Black Muslims.

 

[Gracie]

Ok.

Soon as breaking news comes on tv of a mass shooting...I'm being honest in saying I IMMEDIATELY think Muslim or Black. Ain't gonna lie.

 

[Old Rocks]

My mind automatically goes to muslim. Or black. Cuz that's how it usually is.

Sure...Columbine, Sandy Hook, Charleston, Colorado, San Isidro, University of Texas...all Black Muslims.

Add Springfield and Roseburg, Oregon.

 

[Old Rocks]

Ok.

Soon as breaking news comes on tv of a mass shooting...I'm being honest in saying I IMMEDIATELY think Muslim or Black. Ain't gonna lie.

I curse aloud and wonder which sort of crazy has gone on a killing spree this time. Too many different types at present seem to think that killing a bunch of people, and then themselves, solves some sort of problem.

 

[bodecea]

My mind automatically goes to muslim. Or black. Cuz that's how it usually is.

Sure...Columbine, Sandy Hook, Charleston, Colorado, San Isidro, University of Texas...all Black Muslims.

Add Springfield and Roseburg, Oregon.

Thank you...was just off the top of my head.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Ok.

Soon as breaking news comes on tv of a mass shooting...I'm being honest in saying I IMMEDIATELY think Muslim or Black. Ain't gonna lie.

You are not being asked to lie. But it would be nice if you'd acknowledge why this is the case.

And.....thinking it is one thing. Hoping for it is another.

 

[Gracie]

Ok.

Soon as breaking news comes on tv of a mass shooting...I'm being honest in saying I IMMEDIATELY think Muslim or Black. Ain't gonna lie.

You are not being asked to lie. But it would be nice if you'd acknowledge why this is the case.

And.....thinking it is one thing. Hoping for it is another.

Why??? Because that's all we hear about! And that's all that goes down. But you want me to EXPLAIN this? Jeez.

 

[Gracie]

Who said anything about HOPING? Damn sure wasn't me.

 

[September]

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[bodecea]

Ok.

Soon as breaking news comes on tv of a mass shooting...I'm being honest in saying I IMMEDIATELY think Muslim or Black. Ain't gonna lie.

You are not being asked to lie. But it would be nice if you'd acknowledge why this is the case.

And.....thinking it is one thing. Hoping for it is another.

Why??? Because that's all we hear about! And that's all that goes down. But you want me to EXPLAIN this? Jeez.

All you hear about....? You've not heard of any of those "events" I mentioned?

 

[LoneLaugher]

Ok.

Soon as breaking news comes on tv of a mass shooting...I'm being honest in saying I IMMEDIATELY think Muslim or Black. Ain't gonna lie.

You are not being asked to lie. But it would be nice if you'd acknowledge why this is the case.

And.....thinking it is one thing. Hoping for it is another.

Why??? Because that's all we hear about! And that's all that goes down. But you want me to EXPLAIN this? Jeez.

It has been explained to you that most mass shootings in America are committed at the hands of white men. Very few, in fact, have anything to do with Muslims or other minorities.

Therefore, there is some other reason why you immediately think of a Muslim or a minority when you hear that a mass shooting has occurred.

I'm pretty sure you know what it is. Most people are self aware enough to know something like that.

 

[Gracie]

You can think I am a racist all you want and it won't matter one jot to me.

Now...if a mass shooting was done in MY neck of the woods...my county that houses my town..I would immediately think Hispanic. Why? Because that is the going thing around here. I guess it depends on where ya live.

 

[Gracie]

Ok.

Soon as breaking news comes on tv of a mass shooting...I'm being honest in saying I IMMEDIATELY think Muslim or Black. Ain't gonna lie.

You are not being asked to lie. But it would be nice if you'd acknowledge why this is the case.

And.....thinking it is one thing. Hoping for it is another.

Why??? Because that's all we hear about! And that's all that goes down. But you want me to EXPLAIN this? Jeez.

All you hear about....? You've not heard of any of those "events" I mentioned?

Duh. Of course I have.

No matter what I say, you are going to argue it. So...carry on.

 

[waltky]

Mass shooting in Houston...

Shooting rampage in Houston leaves two dead, six wounded\
Sun May 29, 2016 - Police in Houston killed a gunman on Sunday in a chaotic shootout that left one other person dead, six wounded - including two officers - and set off a fire at a nearby gas station when bullets struck a gas pump, authorities said.

Witnesses reported that a gunman approached a man who had just pulled up to an auto detail shop and opened fire with a pistol, police spokesman John Cannon said. "It appears that it was a random, unprovoked attack," Cannon said. The victim, a male in his 50s, died, he said. The gunman fired on the first officer to respond to the scene, riddling his car with bullets, including many that struck the windshield, Cannon said. At least five shots also struck a police helicopter, he said,

The officer escaped injury and called for help. A shootout ensued with arriving officers before a SWAT team member shot the suspect dead at about 11:10 a.m., about an hour after police arrived at the scene, Cannon said. Two constables were wounded, not seriously, one struck in the hand and other in his bulletproof chest vest, he said. A second person, still considered a possible suspect, was also shot, possibly by the primary shooter, Cannon said. He was interviewed at the hospital to give police his version of what happened, Cannon said.

A Houston Police Department patrol car is shown with bullet holes in its windshield in Houston, Texas, U.S. in this May 29, 2016 handout photo after a shooting incident that left two people dead, including the gunman, and another six wounded.​

Three other people, believed to be innocent victims, were also wounded but not seriously, officials said. Bullets from the shootout struck a gas pump at a station next to the detail shop, triggering a fire that left the station building charred, Cannon said. Police do not know the motives behind the shootings and are seeking the public’s help. “We are trying to piece all of this together,” acting Houston Police Chief Martha Montalvo said. “It’s still a very ongoing investigation.”

The gunman had both a pistol and a rifle, police said. "Obviously they had a high-powered rifle," Montalvo said. "We believe one of them had an AR-15.” The shooting occurred in west Houston, adjacent to a residential area, just east of the Sam Houston Tollway, a major highway dissecting the Texas city.

Shooting rampage in Houston leaves two dead, six wounded

 

[bodecea]

You can think I am a racist all you want and it won't matter one jot to me.

Now...if a mass shooting was done in MY neck of the woods...my county that houses my town..I would immediately think Hispanic. Why? Because that is the going thing around here. I guess it depends on where ya live.

Can you name some mass shootings done by Hispanics in your area?

 

[bodecea]

Ok.

Soon as breaking news comes on tv of a mass shooting...I'm being honest in saying I IMMEDIATELY think Muslim or Black. Ain't gonna lie.

You are not being asked to lie. But it would be nice if you'd acknowledge why this is the case.

And.....thinking it is one thing. Hoping for it is another.

Why??? Because that's all we hear about! And that's all that goes down. But you want me to EXPLAIN this? Jeez.

All you hear about....? You've not heard of any of those "events" I mentioned?

Duh. Of course I have.

No matter what I say, you are going to argue it. So...carry on.

I really want to understand why you choose to ignore all those mass shootings I listed.

 

[bucs90]

 

[Rustic]

Ok.

Soon as breaking news comes on tv of a mass shooting...I'm being honest in saying I IMMEDIATELY think Muslim or Black. Ain't gonna lie.

You are not being asked to lie. But it would be nice if you'd acknowledge why this is the case.

And.....thinking it is one thing. Hoping for it is another.

Why??? Because that's all we hear about! And that's all that goes down. But you want me to EXPLAIN this? Jeez.

All you hear about....? You've not heard of any of those "events" I mentioned?

Duh. Of course I have.

No matter what I say, you are going to argue it. So...carry on.

I really want to understand why you choose to ignore all those mass shootings I listed.

2016 Real Time Death Statistics in America

 

[MikeK]

Unfortunately, when one hears on the news of multiple shots fired and people dead or wounded that amounts to more than one person....most folks think terror attack. It's just the way it is in today's world.

When I hear of a mass shooting or other form of random killing, if the report mentions one actor I assume it's a psycho gone over the edge. But if there is more than one it's probably a terrorist attack.

Two exceptions that come to mind are (1) Randy Yousef who single-handedly built and planted a truck bomb in a World Trade Center tower in 1993. That was a terrorist attack. But I believe (2) the Army psychiatrist, Nidal Hassan, who shot up Fort Hood in 2009 inhabits both categories, psychopath and terrorist. What he did was definitely terror-oriented, but his background clearly suggests he is insane.

Hassan's bizarre action does bring to mind the question of whether profound immersion in the Islamic faith is capable of producing a full-blown psycho/pathogenic effect. When I see some of these glaring, bearded Muslims dressed in their tribal clothing and raving on the tv news and in YouTube videos the words that come instantly to mind are, crazy, dangerous, screwball. I definitely am fearful of these people and I deeply resent NJ State government for not permitting me to carry a firearm.