21 to buy an AR? The ignorance of Democrats and the anti-gun left.

[miketx]

You didn’t take English in school as a first language did you.
Anyone who thinks that every person in the United States should be well armed is stupid. As a people, group or class , we should be well armed.
Obviously, there are many persons in a group that should not be, ie, felons, children etc. That still allows the group of people to be armed, as in our well regulated militia. If you think it means every person dufus, then the next thing we do is hand out firearms to school children, the homeless and poor who can’t afford……and every walking humanoid incl. black, brown, gay, straight and even the old aged at the home. They all get firearms, FREE and without distinction.

• The word person refers to an individual human being whereas the word people refers to the class of persons or groups of individuals. ...

That's it traitor, never stop spewing bs.

 

[Dagosa]

That's it traitor, never stop spewing bs.

When posting an educated person, you illiterates would think so. Who did your home work for you ?

 

[Dagosa]

Reasonable guns, go and look up UK gun laws.

So, you think UK has the final say on “ reasonable guns“ ? Personally, because most “black powder” firearms are mostly unregulated, that would be my first choice.

 

[miketx]

When posting an educated person, you illiterates would think so. Who did your home work for you ?

Perhaps, seeing how you're so educated, you could fix the first part of your statement so it can be understood?

 

[Dagosa]

That's it traitor, never stop spewing bs.

You hump for Trump the traitor and call others traitors ?

 

[Dagosa]

Perhaps, seeing how you're so educated, you could fix the first part of your statement so it can be understood?

You must be posting an illiterate Humper some where else.

 

[miketx]

You hump for Trump the traitor and call others traitors ?

You must be posting another illiterate.

Damn these traitors like to spew bs.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Never mind the fact that every school shooting in the US could have been equally perpetrated by someone with a pump-action shotgun.
The Democrats don't give a hoot in hell about saving kids - they want the guns.

Wrong. A pump action shotgun can only hold 3 to 8 shells, 3 more if a magazine extension is attached. An AR-15 can hold up to 30 rounds.

As far as the OP saying that other guns could be bought, sorry, but that also is incorrect. The language on the bill states "semi automatic", not a specific model, meaning all semi automatic rifles would require a person to be 21 or older to purchase.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Wrong. A pump action shotgun can only hold 3 to 8 shells, 3 more if a magazine extension is attached. An AR-15 can hold up to 30 rounds.

And...?
When you have all the time in the world, why does this matter?

As far as the OP saying that other guns could be bought, sorry, but that also is incorrect. The language on the bill states "semi automatic", not a specific model, meaning all semi automatic rifles would require a person to be 21 or older to purchase.

He could have bought a pump-action shotgun.

 

[ABikerSailor]

And...?
When you have all the time in the world, why does this matter?

He could have bought a pump-action shotgun.

Chances are that if he had a pump action shotgun, the police would have moved in on him quicker as he would have had to reload after only 3 to 11 shots with the shotgun (depending on the kind of gun and what setup he had on it).

 

[M14 Shooter]

Chances are that if he had a pump action shotgun, the police would have moved in on him quicker...

Maybe, and only maybe - if you are hesitant to take a shot from an AR, you are at least as hesitant to take a shot from a 12g.
And this doesn't change the fact there are -dozens- of other examples where the shooter could have used a pump-action shotgun to kill as many people.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Maybe, and only maybe - if you are hesitant to take a shot from an AR, you are at least as hesitant to take a shot from a 12g.
And this doesn't change the fact there are -dozens- of other examples where the shooter could have used a pump-action shotgun to kill as many people.

An AR has more penetrating power than a shotgun does. And, you said "could have" used a pump action shotgun. Got any mass shooting events you can link to where that actually happened?

 

[M14 Shooter]

An AR has more penetrating power than a shotgun does.

A slug to the chest will break bones - the sternum and ribs - and will kill you just as dead.
What's worse, you are likely to be in a lot more pain, for a lot longer.

And, you said "could have" used a pump action shotgun.

Yes. Any mass shooting, save for one, where an 'assault weapon' was used, a shogun could have been used to kill as many people, as the shooter had the time to reload.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Got any mass shooting events you can link to where that actually happened?

Of course I do.
Links found here:

US mass shootings, 1982–2024: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

The full data set from our in-depth investigation into mass shootings.

www.motherjones.com

Santa Fe High School shooting	Santa Fe, TX	5/18/18	10 Killed
Pennsylvania carwash shooting	Melcroft, PA	1/28/18	4
Cascade Mall shooting	Burlington, WA	9/23/2016	5
Mohawk Valley shootings	Herkimer County, New York	3/13/2013	5
Carthage nursing home shooting	Carthage, North Carolina	3/29/2009	8
Luigi's shooting	Fayetteville, North Carolina	8/6/1993	4
Lindhurst High School shooting	Olivehurst, California	5/1/1992	4
Royal Oak postal shootings	Royal Oak, Michigan	11/14/1991	4
Welding shop shooting	Miami, Florida	8/20/1982	8

 

[M14 Shooter]

^^^^
Hates facts, and yet wishes he has some on his side.

 

[ABikerSailor]

A slug to the chest will break bones - the sternum and ribs - and will kill you just as dead.
What's worse, you are likely to be in a lot more pain, for a lot longer.

Yes. Any mass shooting, save for one, where an 'assault weapon' was used, a shogun could have been used to kill as many people, as the shooter had the time to reload.

Police listen for when a shooter is reloading, as the time spent reloading is when they like to move in since they can't shoot during that time.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Of course I do.
Links found here:

US mass shootings, 1982–2024: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

The full data set from our in-depth investigation into mass shootings.

www.motherjones.com

Santa Fe High School shooting	Santa Fe, TX	5/18/18	10 Killed
Pennsylvania carwash shooting	Melcroft, PA	1/28/18	4
Cascade Mall shooting	Burlington, WA	9/23/2016	5
Mohawk Valley shootings	Herkimer County, New York	3/13/2013	5
Carthage nursing home shooting	Carthage, North Carolina	3/29/2009	8
Luigi's shooting	Fayetteville, North Carolina	8/6/1993	4
Lindhurst High School shooting	Olivehurst, California	5/1/1992	4
Royal Oak postal shootings	Royal Oak, Michigan	11/14/1991	4
Welding shop shooting	Miami, Florida	8/20/1982	8

That just tells about the shooting, not what kind of weapon was used. You had specifically stated that a pump action shotgun "COULD HAVE" killed as many people as a semi automatic rifle, and I asked if you had any links where a shotgun was used to cause as much carnage as a semi automatic. Guess you didn't understand the question the first time, which is why I specifically phrased it out in this post. So, again, if you have any links to where a mass shooting was carried out by a shotgun (pump or otherwise) where as many people were killed, please post it.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Police listen for when a shooter is reloading, as the time spent reloading is when they like to move in since they can't shoot during that time.

This does not address, must less negate, anything I said.

 

[M14 Shooter]

That just tells about the shooting, not what kind of weapon was used.

The link I provided has that information, including links to the individual events -- which is why I provided it.
Guess you didn't look at it.
Hint: All examples provided are shotguns.

 

[ABikerSailor]

The link I provided has that information, including links to the individual events -- which is why I provided it.
Guess you didn't look at it.
Hint: All examples provided are shotguns.

I went back and looked at the link. Hint: All weapons used were semi automatic rifles or handguns with the exception of 3 incidents where shotguns were used. Guess you didn't read your own link, did you?