5 Home Invaders Stopped by AR-15

[Darkwind]

Yes, guns dont stop home invaders, people do. Fkn moron.

"whoosh" is right......it went right over her head the reason for the 2nd .....yours too?

You know what that stupid circular argument is? A deceptive way you try to justify your fears and put criminals on the same plane as law abiding gun owners.

Criminals don't need guns to be criminals. Plenty proof of that. It's not the gun.
Your stupid argument is like saying criminals wouldn't commit crimes if they didn't have a gun. CRIMINALS COMMIT CRIMES. It's what they do.

But law abiding people DO need guns to protect themselves from crazed mentally ill Lefties who commit the vast majority of aggravated crimes.
Also plenty proof of that. GUNS are the only way MANY single 100lb moms protect their families at night.

The question is why do YOU want to make sure women and children especially, become victims and easy targets for criminals? What's wrong with you?
Do you like criminals THAT much?

Ironically...this whole debate is pointless.

The 2nd Amendment is not about self protection. It's about not becoming the next Venezuela. Or Russia or China.
Of course, your kind is so stupid you think those are model societies.

Also, criminals would not comply with a law banning any or all guns.

Of course not. Just like they comply with other laws. Why have any laws?

Laws exist to meter out punishment AFTER the fact.

Every law does this. Every....single...one.....of....them.

 

[Coyote]

Yes, guns dont stop home invaders, people do. Fkn moron.

"whoosh" is right......it went right over her head the reason for the 2nd .....yours too?

You know what that stupid circular argument is? A deceptive way you try to justify your fears and put criminals on the same plane as law abiding gun owners.

Criminals don't need guns to be criminals. Plenty proof of that. It's not the gun.
Your stupid argument is like saying criminals wouldn't commit crimes if they didn't have a gun. CRIMINALS COMMIT CRIMES. It's what they do.

But law abiding people DO need guns to protect themselves from crazed mentally ill Lefties who commit the vast majority of aggravated crimes.
Also plenty proof of that. GUNS are the only way MANY single 100lb moms protect their families at night.

The question is why do YOU want to make sure women and children especially, become victims and easy targets for criminals? What's wrong with you?
Do you like criminals THAT much?

Ironically...this whole debate is pointless.

The 2nd Amendment is not about self protection. It's about not becoming the next Venezuela. Or Russia or China.
Of course, your kind is so stupid you think those are model societies.

Also, criminals would not comply with a law banning any or all guns.

Of course not. Just like they comply with other laws. Why have any laws?

Laws exist to meter out punishment AFTER the fact.

Every law does this. Every....single...one.....of....them.

Laws also exist to act as a deterrence.

 

[Darkwind]

Yes, guns dont stop home invaders, people do. Fkn moron.

"whoosh" is right......it went right over her head the reason for the 2nd .....yours too?

You know what that stupid circular argument is? A deceptive way you try to justify your fears and put criminals on the same plane as law abiding gun owners.

Criminals don't need guns to be criminals. Plenty proof of that. It's not the gun.
Your stupid argument is like saying criminals wouldn't commit crimes if they didn't have a gun. CRIMINALS COMMIT CRIMES. It's what they do.

But law abiding people DO need guns to protect themselves from crazed mentally ill Lefties who commit the vast majority of aggravated crimes.
Also plenty proof of that. GUNS are the only way MANY single 100lb moms protect their families at night.

The question is why do YOU want to make sure women and children especially, become victims and easy targets for criminals? What's wrong with you?
Do you like criminals THAT much?

Ironically...this whole debate is pointless.

The 2nd Amendment is not about self protection. It's about not becoming the next Venezuela. Or Russia or China.
Of course, your kind is so stupid you think those are model societies.

Also, criminals would not comply with a law banning any or all guns.

Of course not. Just like they comply with other laws. Why have any laws?

Laws exist to meter out punishment AFTER the fact.

Every law does this. Every....single...one.....of....them.

Laws also exist to act as a deterrence.

Only to those who would be predisposed to obeying them.

Those same people who obey laws would never even think of taking a weapon to a school and shooting up children.

So, we see that laws do NOT prevent killers from killing.

 

[Rambunctious]

Until the anti gun wishers in America can tell us what a country minus a 2nd amendment and subsequent gun confiscation will look like you can all screw off...

 

[Coyote]

"whoosh" is right......it went right over her head the reason for the 2nd .....yours too?

You know what that stupid circular argument is? A deceptive way you try to justify your fears and put criminals on the same plane as law abiding gun owners.

Criminals don't need guns to be criminals. Plenty proof of that. It's not the gun.
Your stupid argument is like saying criminals wouldn't commit crimes if they didn't have a gun. CRIMINALS COMMIT CRIMES. It's what they do.

But law abiding people DO need guns to protect themselves from crazed mentally ill Lefties who commit the vast majority of aggravated crimes.
Also plenty proof of that. GUNS are the only way MANY single 100lb moms protect their families at night.

The question is why do YOU want to make sure women and children especially, become victims and easy targets for criminals? What's wrong with you?
Do you like criminals THAT much?

Ironically...this whole debate is pointless.

The 2nd Amendment is not about self protection. It's about not becoming the next Venezuela. Or Russia or China.
Of course, your kind is so stupid you think those are model societies.

Also, criminals would not comply with a law banning any or all guns.

Of course not. Just like they comply with other laws. Why have any laws?

Laws exist to meter out punishment AFTER the fact.

Every law does this. Every....single...one.....of....them.

Laws also exist to act as a deterrence.

Only to those who would be predisposed to obeying them.

Those same people who obey laws would never even think of taking a weapon to a school and shooting up children.

So, we see that laws do NOT prevent killers from killing.

I disagree. Many of those mass shooters were never before in trouble with the law. They were predisposed to obey the law...until they didn’t.

 

[toobfreak]

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I'd like to see that bony-assed worthless POS Hogg dragged before a room of about a hundred people whose lives were all saved by carrying firearms and being able to defend themselves to all ask him questions and give that punk a real piece of their mind.

BUT YOU KNOW Hogg's a stooge set up by the A-G lobby when you know in advance that there is nothing, not even THAT that would assuage his outlook and opinions on firearms. And just think, had his school been proactive and had just ONE TEACHER armed with a gun, that killer would have been stopped and all his friends lives could have been saved.

 

[westwall]

Yes, guns dont stop home invaders, people do. Fkn moron.

"whoosh" is right......it went right over her head the reason for the 2nd .....yours too?

You know what that stupid circular argument is? A deceptive way you try to justify your fears and put criminals on the same plane as law abiding gun owners.

Criminals don't need guns to be criminals. Plenty proof of that. It's not the gun.
Your stupid argument is like saying criminals wouldn't commit crimes if they didn't have a gun. CRIMINALS COMMIT CRIMES. It's what they do.

But law abiding people DO need guns to protect themselves from crazed mentally ill Lefties who commit the vast majority of aggravated crimes.
Also plenty proof of that. GUNS are the only way MANY single 100lb moms protect their families at night.

The question is why do YOU want to make sure women and children especially, become victims and easy targets for criminals? What's wrong with you?
Do you like criminals THAT much?

Ironically...this whole debate is pointless.

The 2nd Amendment is not about self protection. It's about not becoming the next Venezuela. Or Russia or China.
Of course, your kind is so stupid you think those are model societies.

Also, criminals would not comply with a law banning any or all guns.

Of course not. Just like they comply with other laws. Why have any laws?

All laws do is provide a method of determining punishment for bad behavior. Laws don't prevent that behavior. If they did, there would be no murder, no rape, no kidnapping etc. Just look at all of those countries that have the laws you want. They still have gun crime, and in the case of Europe the recent influx of refugees has seen a coincidental massive increase in gun crimes. It ain't the gun Coyote, it is the person who decides to use it.

 

[Darkwind]

Also, criminals would not comply with a law banning any or all guns.

Of course not. Just like they comply with other laws. Why have any laws?

Laws exist to meter out punishment AFTER the fact.

Every law does this. Every....single...one.....of....them.

Laws also exist to act as a deterrence.

Only to those who would be predisposed to obeying them.

Those same people who obey laws would never even think of taking a weapon to a school and shooting up children.

So, we see that laws do NOT prevent killers from killing.

I disagree. Many of those mass shooters were never before in trouble with the law. They were predisposed to obey the law...until they didn’t.

The problem with your belief is that we have to prosecute people who have not committed any crimes.

It doesn't get more un-American than that.

 

[Yarddog]

17 kids killed by an AR-15.

Yes, and the sheriffs department, and the school admin are complicit based on the fact that the killer was a KNOWN entity. Had commited dozens of violent acts against his family and against teachers, and had the negligent sheriffs dept arrested him ONE time out of those dozens, he would have been precluded from purchasing the rifle legally. You want to hurl invective at some one, or some thing, hurl it at the asshole who did the shooting, and the GOVERNMENT that ALLOWED it (hell they practically begged him to do it) to happen.

If that guy didnt have an AR-15 he would have used something else.

 

[2aguy]

Yes, guns dont stop home invaders, people do. Fkn moron.

"whoosh" is right......it went right over her head the reason for the 2nd .....yours too?

You know what that stupid circular argument is? A deceptive way you try to justify your fears and put criminals on the same plane as law abiding gun owners.

Criminals don't need guns to be criminals. Plenty proof of that. It's not the gun.
Your stupid argument is like saying criminals wouldn't commit crimes if they didn't have a gun. CRIMINALS COMMIT CRIMES. It's what they do.

But law abiding people DO need guns to protect themselves from crazed mentally ill Lefties who commit the vast majority of aggravated crimes.
Also plenty proof of that. GUNS are the only way MANY single 100lb moms protect their families at night.

The question is why do YOU want to make sure women and children especially, become victims and easy targets for criminals? What's wrong with you?
Do you like criminals THAT much?

Ironically...this whole debate is pointless.

The 2nd Amendment is not about self protection. It's about not becoming the next Venezuela. Or Russia or China.
Of course, your kind is so stupid you think those are model societies.

Also, criminals would not comply with a law banning any or all guns.

Of course not. Just like they comply with other laws. Why have any laws?

Laws exist to meter out punishment AFTER the fact.

Every law does this. Every....single...one.....of....them.

Laws also exist to act as a deterrence.

To the law abiding.....which is what you guys never understand..... all of your anti gun laws only target people who actually will obey the law...while criminals with long criminal histories of crime and violence ignore them and commit murder.....after democrats keep letting them out of jail over and over again.

 

[2aguy]

17 kids killed by an AR-15.

Yes, and the sheriffs department, and the school admin are complicit based on the fact that the killer was a KNOWN entity. Had commited dozens of violent acts against his family and against teachers, and had the negligent sheriffs dept arrested him ONE time out of those dozens, he would have been precluded from purchasing the rifle legally. You want to hurl invective at some one, or some thing, hurl it at the asshole who did the shooting, and the GOVERNMENT that ALLOWED it (hell they practically begged him to do it) to happen.

If that guy didnt have an AR-15 he would have used something else.

But the AR-15 worked just fine...

 

[2aguy]

Also, criminals would not comply with a law banning any or all guns.

Of course not. Just like they comply with other laws. Why have any laws?

Laws exist to meter out punishment AFTER the fact.

Every law does this. Every....single...one.....of....them.

Laws also exist to act as a deterrence.

Only to those who would be predisposed to obeying them.

Those same people who obey laws would never even think of taking a weapon to a school and shooting up children.

So, we see that laws do NOT prevent killers from killing.

I disagree. Many of those mass shooters were never before in trouble with the law. They were predisposed to obey the law...until they didn’t.

Of the gun murders committed in the country, mass shooters only exceeded over 100 deaths in one year, 2017..... out of 11,004 gun murders in 2016...... mass public shooters are not a problem, they are the rarest of rare shootings....lawn mowers kill more people every single year than mass shooters do..... the majority of shooters are career criminals murdering other career criminals.... yet you don't want to focus on actually stopping them...in fact, you support a political party that keeps letting violent, repeat gun offenders out of prison over and over again.... and then you pass gun laws that target law abiding gun owners, the ones not shooting anyone....

Do you see why we think you are irrational morons?

Lawn mower deaths every year.... more than 75

(Lawn Mower Accidents Rise This Time of Year | MU News Bureau)


2017........117
2016......71
2015......37
2014..... 9
2013..... 36
2012..... 72
2011..... 19
2010....9
2009...39
2008...18
2007...54
2006...21
2005...17
2004...5
2003...7
2002...not listed by mother jones
2001...5
2000...7
1999...42
1998...14
1997...9
1996...6
1995...6
1994....5
1993...23
1992...9
1991...35
1990...10
1989...15
1988...7
1987...6
1986...15
1985...(none listed)
1984...28
1983 (none listed)
1982...8

 

[2aguy]

Yes, guns dont stop home invaders, people do. Fkn moron.

"whoosh" is right......it went right over her head the reason for the 2nd .....yours too?

You know what that stupid circular argument is? A deceptive way you try to justify your fears and put criminals on the same plane as law abiding gun owners.

Criminals don't need guns to be criminals. Plenty proof of that. It's not the gun.
Your stupid argument is like saying criminals wouldn't commit crimes if they didn't have a gun. CRIMINALS COMMIT CRIMES. It's what they do.

But law abiding people DO need guns to protect themselves from crazed mentally ill Lefties who commit the vast majority of aggravated crimes.
Also plenty proof of that. GUNS are the only way MANY single 100lb moms protect their families at night.

The question is why do YOU want to make sure women and children especially, become victims and easy targets for criminals? What's wrong with you?
Do you like criminals THAT much?

Ironically...this whole debate is pointless.

The 2nd Amendment is not about self protection. It's about not becoming the next Venezuela. Or Russia or China.
Of course, your kind is so stupid you think those are model societies.

Also, criminals would not comply with a law banning any or all guns.

Of course not. Just like they comply with other laws. Why have any laws?

All laws do is provide a method of determining punishment for bad behavior. Laws don't prevent that behavior. If they did, there would be no murder, no rape, no kidnapping etc. Just look at all of those countries that have the laws you want. They still have gun crime, and in the case of Europe the recent influx of refugees has seen a coincidental massive increase in gun crimes. It ain't the gun Coyote, it is the person who decides to use it.

Yes....even in beloved Sweden...the home of our wonderful Swedish Bikini Team.... they now have a gun...and grenade problem.... now that is what is wrong with the world.... those poor girls......

 

[asaratis]

Yes, guns dont stop home invaders, people do. Fkn moron.

"whoosh" is right......it went right over her head the reason for the 2nd .....yours too?

You know what that stupid circular argument is? A deceptive way you try to justify your fears and put criminals on the same plane as law abiding gun owners.

Criminals don't need guns to be criminals. Plenty proof of that. It's not the gun.
Your stupid argument is like saying criminals wouldn't commit crimes if they didn't have a gun. CRIMINALS COMMIT CRIMES. It's what they do.

But law abiding people DO need guns to protect themselves from crazed mentally ill Lefties who commit the vast majority of aggravated crimes.
Also plenty proof of that. GUNS are the only way MANY single 100lb moms protect their families at night.

The question is why do YOU want to make sure women and children especially, become victims and easy targets for criminals? What's wrong with you?
Do you like criminals THAT much?

Ironically...this whole debate is pointless.

The 2nd Amendment is not about self protection. It's about not becoming the next Venezuela. Or Russia or China.
Of course, your kind is so stupid you think those are model societies.

Also, criminals would not comply with a law banning any or all guns.

Of course not. Just like they comply with other laws. Why have any laws?

To arrest and punish people caught violating them.

 

[asaratis]

Yes, guns dont stop home invaders, people do. Fkn moron.

"whoosh" is right......it went right over her head the reason for the 2nd .....yours too?

You know what that stupid circular argument is? A deceptive way you try to justify your fears and put criminals on the same plane as law abiding gun owners.

Criminals don't need guns to be criminals. Plenty proof of that. It's not the gun.
Your stupid argument is like saying criminals wouldn't commit crimes if they didn't have a gun. CRIMINALS COMMIT CRIMES. It's what they do.

But law abiding people DO need guns to protect themselves from crazed mentally ill Lefties who commit the vast majority of aggravated crimes.
Also plenty proof of that. GUNS are the only way MANY single 100lb moms protect their families at night.

The question is why do YOU want to make sure women and children especially, become victims and easy targets for criminals? What's wrong with you?
Do you like criminals THAT much?

Ironically...this whole debate is pointless.

The 2nd Amendment is not about self protection. It's about not becoming the next Venezuela. Or Russia or China.
Of course, your kind is so stupid you think those are model societies.

Also, criminals would not comply with a law banning any or all guns.

Of course not. Just like they comply with other laws. Why have any laws?

Laws exist to meter out punishment AFTER the fact.

Every law does this. Every....single...one.....of....them.

Laws also exist to act as a deterrence.

Deterrence works only on law abiding people. Criminals seem to ignore them.

 

[asaratis]

Also, criminals would not comply with a law banning any or all guns.

Of course not. Just like they comply with other laws. Why have any laws?

Laws exist to meter out punishment AFTER the fact.

Every law does this. Every....single...one.....of....them.

Laws also exist to act as a deterrence.

Only to those who would be predisposed to obeying them.

Those same people who obey laws would never even think of taking a weapon to a school and shooting up children.

So, we see that laws do NOT prevent killers from killing.

I disagree. Many of those mass shooters were never before in trouble with the law. They were predisposed to obey the law...until they didn’t.

One's never getting in trouble with the law does not equal predisposition to obeying the law. Logic failure.

 

[Brain357]

Over 30 rounds fired in a trailer, sounds like they endangered everyone around.

According to investigators, the invasion “escalated” as the result of conflict between the two groups “that was stoked by social media threats.”

Something tells me both sides were threatening, no real good guy here.

 

[Brain357]

Of course not. Just like they comply with other laws. Why have any laws?

Laws exist to meter out punishment AFTER the fact.

Every law does this. Every....single...one.....of....them.

Laws also exist to act as a deterrence.

Only to those who would be predisposed to obeying them.

Those same people who obey laws would never even think of taking a weapon to a school and shooting up children.

So, we see that laws do NOT prevent killers from killing.

I disagree. Many of those mass shooters were never before in trouble with the law. They were predisposed to obey the law...until they didn’t.

Of the gun murders committed in the country, mass shooters only exceeded over 100 deaths in one year, 2017..... out of 11,004 gun murders in 2016...... mass public shooters are not a problem, they are the rarest of rare shootings....lawn mowers kill more people every single year than mass shooters do..... the majority of shooters are career criminals murdering other career criminals.... yet you don't want to focus on actually stopping them...in fact, you support a political party that keeps letting violent, repeat gun offenders out of prison over and over again.... and then you pass gun laws that target law abiding gun owners, the ones not shooting anyone....

Do you see why we think you are irrational morons?

Lawn mower deaths every year.... more than 75

(Lawn Mower Accidents Rise This Time of Year | MU News Bureau)


2017........117
2016......71
2015......37
2014..... 9
2013..... 36
2012..... 72
2011..... 19
2010....9
2009...39
2008...18
2007...54
2006...21
2005...17
2004...5
2003...7
2002...not listed by mother jones
2001...5
2000...7
1999...42
1998...14
1997...9
1996...6
1995...6
1994....5
1993...23
1992...9
1991...35
1990...10
1989...15
1988...7
1987...6
1986...15
1985...(none listed)
1984...28
1983 (none listed)
1982...8

More have been dying and mass shootings worse since high capacity magazines and AR style rifles have become popular.

 

[Coyote]

Of course not. Just like they comply with other laws. Why have any laws?

Laws exist to meter out punishment AFTER the fact.

Every law does this. Every....single...one.....of....them.

Laws also exist to act as a deterrence.

Only to those who would be predisposed to obeying them.

Those same people who obey laws would never even think of taking a weapon to a school and shooting up children.

So, we see that laws do NOT prevent killers from killing.

I disagree. Many of those mass shooters were never before in trouble with the law. They were predisposed to obey the law...until they didn’t.

One's never getting in trouble with the law does not equal predisposition to obeying the law. Logic failure.

Nor does it equal a predisposition to breaking the law.

 

[Coyote]

Yes, guns dont stop home invaders, people do. Fkn moron.

"whoosh" is right......it went right over her head the reason for the 2nd .....yours too?

You know what that stupid circular argument is? A deceptive way you try to justify your fears and put criminals on the same plane as law abiding gun owners.

Criminals don't need guns to be criminals. Plenty proof of that. It's not the gun.
Your stupid argument is like saying criminals wouldn't commit crimes if they didn't have a gun. CRIMINALS COMMIT CRIMES. It's what they do.

But law abiding people DO need guns to protect themselves from crazed mentally ill Lefties who commit the vast majority of aggravated crimes.
Also plenty proof of that. GUNS are the only way MANY single 100lb moms protect their families at night.

The question is why do YOU want to make sure women and children especially, become victims and easy targets for criminals? What's wrong with you?
Do you like criminals THAT much?

Ironically...this whole debate is pointless.

The 2nd Amendment is not about self protection. It's about not becoming the next Venezuela. Or Russia or China.
Of course, your kind is so stupid you think those are model societies.

Also, criminals would not comply with a law banning any or all guns.

Of course not. Just like they comply with other laws. Why have any laws?

To arrest and punish people caught violating them.

And to act as a deterrent as well as to establish codes of conduct and public safety.