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[edthecynic]

In our current economic environment why do you think we need immigration?

Because Americans are not making enough babies.

 

[the_human_being]

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[bripat9643]

In our current economic environment why do you think we need immigration?

Because Americans are not making enough babies.

A recent college grad standing in the unemployment line would disagree.

 

[Brain357]

In our current economic environment why do you think we need immigration?

Because Americans are not making enough babies.

Have you looked are wages and unemployment rates? We do not need immigrants at this time.

 

[Flopper]

6 to
8 million undocumented immigrants, most of which are working seasonal, part time, or temp are not going to drive the wages down of 123 million full time workers.

Certainly it would. Throw in all the legal workers brought in to take the better paying tech jobs and it certainly is driving down wages.

The facts simply don't suppor

6 to 8 million undocumented immigrants, most of which are working seasonal, part time, or temp are not going to drive the wages down of 123 million full time workers.

It's already happening. Illegals will generally work for lower wages. And the greedy love that. So opening the border floodgates is going to hurt American Workers. And they can't afford to make even lower wages.

The facts simply don't support your conclusion. More than two decades of research have reached a near consensus that increased immigration has a very small although discernible negative effect on employment in the low skilled labor market in specific area but there is no detectable effect on low skilled labor across the nation.

Who's saying we should open our boarders? All immigration reform bills in congress have proposed strengthening our boarders. If immigration reform is done right, it will use the fact-based reality that immigrants of all skill levels are good for the economy, including wages, jobs, and economic growth.

http://www.cream-migration.org/publ_uploads/CDP_11_07.pdf

Illegals will and do work for lower wages. That's the reality. More Illegals is a disaster for American Workers.

My post is about legal immigrants. We need more immigration but we need the right kind of immigration certainly not illegal immigration and certainly not unrestricted immigration.

In our current economic environment why do you think we need immigration?

I answered that question in post #616 above. Legal immigration has little effect on the current economic environment. However, it has a very positive effect on the economic future of this country.

 

[bripat9643]

Certainly it would. Throw in all the legal workers brought in to take the better paying tech jobs and it certainly is driving down wages.

The facts simply don't suppor

It's already happening. Illegals will generally work for lower wages. And the greedy love that. So opening the border floodgates is going to hurt American Workers. And they can't afford to make even lower wages.

The facts simply don't support your conclusion. More than two decades of research have reached a near consensus that increased immigration has a very small although discernible negative effect on employment in the low skilled labor market in specific area but there is no detectable effect on low skilled labor across the nation.

Who's saying we should open our boarders? All immigration reform bills in congress have proposed strengthening our boarders. If immigration reform is done right, it will use the fact-based reality that immigrants of all skill levels are good for the economy, including wages, jobs, and economic growth.

http://www.cream-migration.org/publ_uploads/CDP_11_07.pdf

Illegals will and do work for lower wages. That's the reality. More Illegals is a disaster for American Workers.

My post is about legal immigrants. We need more immigration but we need the right kind of immigration certainly not illegal immigration and certainly not unrestricted immigration.

In our current economic environment why do you think we need immigration?

I answered that question in post #616 above. Legal immigration has little effect on the current economic environment. However, it has a very positive effect on the economic future of this country.

Horseshit. Furthermore, it offers no benefits for my personal economy.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Certainly it would. Throw in all the legal workers brought in to take the better paying tech jobs and it certainly is driving down wages.

The facts simply don't suppor

It's already happening. Illegals will generally work for lower wages. And the greedy love that. So opening the border floodgates is going to hurt American Workers. And they can't afford to make even lower wages.

The facts simply don't support your conclusion. More than two decades of research have reached a near consensus that increased immigration has a very small although discernible negative effect on employment in the low skilled labor market in specific area but there is no detectable effect on low skilled labor across the nation.

Who's saying we should open our boarders? All immigration reform bills in congress have proposed strengthening our boarders. If immigration reform is done right, it will use the fact-based reality that immigrants of all skill levels are good for the economy, including wages, jobs, and economic growth.

http://www.cream-migration.org/publ_uploads/CDP_11_07.pdf

Illegals will and do work for lower wages. That's the reality. More Illegals is a disaster for American Workers.

My post is about legal immigrants. We need more immigration but we need the right kind of immigration certainly not illegal immigration and certainly not unrestricted immigration.

In our current economic environment why do you think we need immigration?

I answered that question in post #616 above. Legal immigration has little effect on the current economic environment. However, it has a very positive effect on the economic future of this country.

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Little effect on our current economic environment? This looks pretty effective to me.

 

[Flopper]

The facts simply don't suppor
The facts simply don't support your conclusion. More than two decades of research have reached a near consensus that increased immigration has a very small although discernible negative effect on employment in the low skilled labor market in specific area but there is no detectable effect on low skilled labor across the nation.

Who's saying we should open our boarders? All immigration reform bills in congress have proposed strengthening our boarders. If immigration reform is done right, it will use the fact-based reality that immigrants of all skill levels are good for the economy, including wages, jobs, and economic growth.

http://www.cream-migration.org/publ_uploads/CDP_11_07.pdf

Illegals will and do work for lower wages. That's the reality. More Illegals is a disaster for American Workers.

My post is about legal immigrants. We need more immigration but we need the right kind of immigration certainly not illegal immigration and certainly not unrestricted immigration.

Actually, we don't need any more immigrants. What do we need them for? Does anyone believe that 330 million isn't enough people in this country?

We seem to forget that we are a nation of immigrants. America always needs legal immigrants for a number of reasons.

• Contrary to popular myth, immigrants do not push Americans out of jobs. Immigrants tend to fill jobs that Americans cannot or will not fill, mostly at the high and low ends of the skill spectrum.
• Immigrants start businesses. According to the Small Business Administration, immigrants are 30 percent more likely to start a business in the United States than non-immigrants, and 18 percent of all small business owners in the United States are immigrants.
• Immigrant owned businesses create jobs. According to the Fiscal Policy Institute, small businesses owned by immigrants employed an estimated 4.7 million people in 2007, and according to the latest estimates, these small businesses generated more than $776 billion annually.
• Immigrants develop cutting-edge technologies and companies.According to the National Venture Capital Association, immigrants have started 25 percent of public U.S. companies that were backed by venture capital investors. This list includes Google, eBay, Yahoo!, Sun Microsystems, and Intel.
• Unlike illegal immigrants, legal immigrants both blend into and add to the American culture.

Immigrants have enriched American culture and enhanced our influence in the world
Ten Ways Immigrants Help Build and Strengthen Our Economy

If it wasn't immigrants, it would be citizens starting businesses. Heck immigration might hurt the chances of a non immigrant starting a business. I don't see how that is good.

There is absolutely no proof or evidence of that. It is now and always has been the immigrants that are most willing to take risks to start new small businesses in America.

One reason legal immigration is so important is that the U.S. population growth is projected to fall almost in half over the next three decades, with the growth in the working-age population falling even further. Without a growing younger population, strong economic growth is just not going to happen in US.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/de...mmigration_reform_from_the_erp_2013_final.pdf

 

[Brain357]

Illegals will and do work for lower wages. That's the reality. More Illegals is a disaster for American Workers.

My post is about legal immigrants. We need more immigration but we need the right kind of immigration certainly not illegal immigration and certainly not unrestricted immigration.

Actually, we don't need any more immigrants. What do we need them for? Does anyone believe that 330 million isn't enough people in this country?

We seem to forget that we are a nation of immigrants. America always needs legal immigrants for a number of reasons.

• Contrary to popular myth, immigrants do not push Americans out of jobs. Immigrants tend to fill jobs that Americans cannot or will not fill, mostly at the high and low ends of the skill spectrum.
• Immigrants start businesses. According to the Small Business Administration, immigrants are 30 percent more likely to start a business in the United States than non-immigrants, and 18 percent of all small business owners in the United States are immigrants.
• Immigrant owned businesses create jobs. According to the Fiscal Policy Institute, small businesses owned by immigrants employed an estimated 4.7 million people in 2007, and according to the latest estimates, these small businesses generated more than $776 billion annually.
• Immigrants develop cutting-edge technologies and companies.According to the National Venture Capital Association, immigrants have started 25 percent of public U.S. companies that were backed by venture capital investors. This list includes Google, eBay, Yahoo!, Sun Microsystems, and Intel.
• Unlike illegal immigrants, legal immigrants both blend into and add to the American culture.

Immigrants have enriched American culture and enhanced our influence in the world
Ten Ways Immigrants Help Build and Strengthen Our Economy

If it wasn't immigrants, it would be citizens starting businesses. Heck immigration might hurt the chances of a non immigrant starting a business. I don't see how that is good.

There is absolutely no proof or evidence of that. It is now and always has been the immigrants that are most willing to take risks to start new small businesses in America.

One reason legal immigration is so important is that the U.S. population growth is projected to fall almost in half over the next three decades, with the growth in the working-age population falling even further. Without a growing younger population, strong economic growth is just not going to happen in US.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/de...mmigration_reform_from_the_erp_2013_final.pdf

What proof do you need? The world only needs so many things. If an immigrant already put a gas station in a prime location that kills an opportunity for somebody else.

If we continue to grow inequality and wages stay stagnant there will be no growth either.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Illegals will and do work for lower wages. That's the reality. More Illegals is a disaster for American Workers.

My post is about legal immigrants. We need more immigration but we need the right kind of immigration certainly not illegal immigration and certainly not unrestricted immigration.

Actually, we don't need any more immigrants. What do we need them for? Does anyone believe that 330 million isn't enough people in this country?

We seem to forget that we are a nation of immigrants. America always needs legal immigrants for a number of reasons.

• Contrary to popular myth, immigrants do not push Americans out of jobs. Immigrants tend to fill jobs that Americans cannot or will not fill, mostly at the high and low ends of the skill spectrum.
• Immigrants start businesses. According to the Small Business Administration, immigrants are 30 percent more likely to start a business in the United States than non-immigrants, and 18 percent of all small business owners in the United States are immigrants.
• Immigrant owned businesses create jobs. According to the Fiscal Policy Institute, small businesses owned by immigrants employed an estimated 4.7 million people in 2007, and according to the latest estimates, these small businesses generated more than $776 billion annually.
• Immigrants develop cutting-edge technologies and companies.According to the National Venture Capital Association, immigrants have started 25 percent of public U.S. companies that were backed by venture capital investors. This list includes Google, eBay, Yahoo!, Sun Microsystems, and Intel.
• Unlike illegal immigrants, legal immigrants both blend into and add to the American culture.

Immigrants have enriched American culture and enhanced our influence in the world
Ten Ways Immigrants Help Build and Strengthen Our Economy

If it wasn't immigrants, it would be citizens starting businesses. Heck immigration might hurt the chances of a non immigrant starting a business. I don't see how that is good.

There is absolutely no proof or evidence of that. It is now and always has been the immigrants that are most willing to take risks to start new small businesses in America.

One reason legal immigration is so important is that the U.S. population growth is projected to fall almost in half over the next three decades, with the growth in the working-age population falling even further. Without a growing younger population, strong economic growth is just not going to happen in US.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/de...mmigration_reform_from_the_erp_2013_final.pdf

We had a maximum of a million new immigrants entering our country every year, but Democrats don't like that small number.

Of course immigrants open up businesses and take risks. They were never indoctrinated by the left into believing that without government, you will end up being a nobody.

With the exception of a few, our people are taught to get out of school, get a job, and depend on everybody else to make a living. Look at all the complaints by the left on this service. They are all complaining about not making a higher wage, minimum wage is too low, the rich people have all the money and so on.

The solution to new businesses is not bringing in foreigners, the solution to new businesses is government getting the hell out of the way; government making it inviting for an American to start their own business.

 

[Flopper]

My post is about legal immigrants. We need more immigration but we need the right kind of immigration certainly not illegal immigration and certainly not unrestricted immigration.

Actually, we don't need any more immigrants. What do we need them for? Does anyone believe that 330 million isn't enough people in this country?

We seem to forget that we are a nation of immigrants. America always needs legal immigrants for a number of reasons.

• Contrary to popular myth, immigrants do not push Americans out of jobs. Immigrants tend to fill jobs that Americans cannot or will not fill, mostly at the high and low ends of the skill spectrum.
• Immigrants start businesses. According to the Small Business Administration, immigrants are 30 percent more likely to start a business in the United States than non-immigrants, and 18 percent of all small business owners in the United States are immigrants.
• Immigrant owned businesses create jobs. According to the Fiscal Policy Institute, small businesses owned by immigrants employed an estimated 4.7 million people in 2007, and according to the latest estimates, these small businesses generated more than $776 billion annually.
• Immigrants develop cutting-edge technologies and companies.According to the National Venture Capital Association, immigrants have started 25 percent of public U.S. companies that were backed by venture capital investors. This list includes Google, eBay, Yahoo!, Sun Microsystems, and Intel.
• Unlike illegal immigrants, legal immigrants both blend into and add to the American culture.

Immigrants have enriched American culture and enhanced our influence in the world
Ten Ways Immigrants Help Build and Strengthen Our Economy

If it wasn't immigrants, it would be citizens starting businesses. Heck immigration might hurt the chances of a non immigrant starting a business. I don't see how that is good.

There is absolutely no proof or evidence of that. It is now and always has been the immigrants that are most willing to take risks to start new small businesses in America.

One reason legal immigration is so important is that the U.S. population growth is projected to fall almost in half over the next three decades, with the growth in the working-age population falling even further. Without a growing younger population, strong economic growth is just not going to happen in US.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/de...mmigration_reform_from_the_erp_2013_final.pdf

What proof do you need? The world only needs so many things. If an immigrant already put a gas station in a prime location that kills an opportunity for somebody else.

If we continue to grow inequality and wages stay stagnant there will be no growth either.

Frankly, I would prefer an immigrant to open that gas station who has waited his turn to immigrate to the US and risk his last dime to an international corporate giant such as Shell.

According to the SBA, immigrants are almost twice as likely to start a small business than native born Americans.

What difference does it make if the station is opened by an immigrant. 50% of them will be US citizens in 8 years. The owner, regardless of whether he is an immigrant or 3rd or 4th generation American, he will create 5 to 10 new jobs and that is what America needs regardless of who created it.

 

[Brain357]

Actually, we don't need any more immigrants. What do we need them for? Does anyone believe that 330 million isn't enough people in this country?

We seem to forget that we are a nation of immigrants. America always needs legal immigrants for a number of reasons.

• Contrary to popular myth, immigrants do not push Americans out of jobs. Immigrants tend to fill jobs that Americans cannot or will not fill, mostly at the high and low ends of the skill spectrum.
• Immigrants start businesses. According to the Small Business Administration, immigrants are 30 percent more likely to start a business in the United States than non-immigrants, and 18 percent of all small business owners in the United States are immigrants.
• Immigrant owned businesses create jobs. According to the Fiscal Policy Institute, small businesses owned by immigrants employed an estimated 4.7 million people in 2007, and according to the latest estimates, these small businesses generated more than $776 billion annually.
• Immigrants develop cutting-edge technologies and companies.According to the National Venture Capital Association, immigrants have started 25 percent of public U.S. companies that were backed by venture capital investors. This list includes Google, eBay, Yahoo!, Sun Microsystems, and Intel.
• Unlike illegal immigrants, legal immigrants both blend into and add to the American culture.

Immigrants have enriched American culture and enhanced our influence in the world
Ten Ways Immigrants Help Build and Strengthen Our Economy

If it wasn't immigrants, it would be citizens starting businesses. Heck immigration might hurt the chances of a non immigrant starting a business. I don't see how that is good.

There is absolutely no proof or evidence of that. It is now and always has been the immigrants that are most willing to take risks to start new small businesses in America.

One reason legal immigration is so important is that the U.S. population growth is projected to fall almost in half over the next three decades, with the growth in the working-age population falling even further. Without a growing younger population, strong economic growth is just not going to happen in US.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/de...mmigration_reform_from_the_erp_2013_final.pdf

What proof do you need? The world only needs so many things. If an immigrant already put a gas station in a prime location that kills an opportunity for somebody else.

If we continue to grow inequality and wages stay stagnant there will be no growth either.

Frankly, I would prefer an immigrant to open that gas station who has waited his turn to immigrate to the US and risk his last dime to an international corporate giant such as Shell.

According to the SBA, immigrants are almost twice as likely to start a small business than native born Americans.

What difference does it make if the station is opened by an immigrant. 50% of them will be US citizens in 8 years. The owner, regardless of whether he is an immigrant or 3rd or 4th generation American, he will create 5 to 10 new jobs and that is what America needs regardless of who created it.

Because there are only so many good business ideas. If an immigrant starts the business what happens to the citizen who would have otherwise put a gas station there? Our economy can't handle immigrants right now.

 

[Flopper]

We seem to forget that we are a nation of immigrants. America always needs legal immigrants for a number of reasons.

• Contrary to popular myth, immigrants do not push Americans out of jobs. Immigrants tend to fill jobs that Americans cannot or will not fill, mostly at the high and low ends of the skill spectrum.
• Immigrants start businesses. According to the Small Business Administration, immigrants are 30 percent more likely to start a business in the United States than non-immigrants, and 18 percent of all small business owners in the United States are immigrants.
• Immigrant owned businesses create jobs. According to the Fiscal Policy Institute, small businesses owned by immigrants employed an estimated 4.7 million people in 2007, and according to the latest estimates, these small businesses generated more than $776 billion annually.
• Immigrants develop cutting-edge technologies and companies.According to the National Venture Capital Association, immigrants have started 25 percent of public U.S. companies that were backed by venture capital investors. This list includes Google, eBay, Yahoo!, Sun Microsystems, and Intel.
• Unlike illegal immigrants, legal immigrants both blend into and add to the American culture.

Immigrants have enriched American culture and enhanced our influence in the world
Ten Ways Immigrants Help Build and Strengthen Our Economy

If it wasn't immigrants, it would be citizens starting businesses. Heck immigration might hurt the chances of a non immigrant starting a business. I don't see how that is good.

There is absolutely no proof or evidence of that. It is now and always has been the immigrants that are most willing to take risks to start new small businesses in America.

One reason legal immigration is so important is that the U.S. population growth is projected to fall almost in half over the next three decades, with the growth in the working-age population falling even further. Without a growing younger population, strong economic growth is just not going to happen in US.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/de...mmigration_reform_from_the_erp_2013_final.pdf

What proof do you need? The world only needs so many things. If an immigrant already put a gas station in a prime location that kills an opportunity for somebody else.

If we continue to grow inequality and wages stay stagnant there will be no growth either.

Frankly, I would prefer an immigrant to open that gas station who has waited his turn to immigrate to the US and risk his last dime to an international corporate giant such as Shell.

According to the SBA, immigrants are almost twice as likely to start a small business than native born Americans.

What difference does it make if the station is opened by an immigrant. 50% of them will be US citizens in 8 years. The owner, regardless of whether he is an immigrant or 3rd or 4th generation American, he will create 5 to 10 new jobs and that is what America needs regardless of who created it.

Because there are only so many good business ideas. If an immigrant starts the business what happens to the citizen who would have otherwise put a gas station there? Our economy can't handle immigrants right now.

There is a wealth of good business ideas. There is a shortage of those willing to take risks associated with opening new small businesses. For too many Americans, security is their top priority, a secure rob, a secure retirement, and life in a secure community. Immigrants unlike native born Americans tend to be risk takers. They give up a life in a culture and nation to start over again and take their chances in the land opportunity.

America was built and is being built by immigrants. Stopping the inflow of new blood into the nation would be disastrous for our future.

 

[Brain357]

If it wasn't immigrants, it would be citizens starting businesses. Heck immigration might hurt the chances of a non immigrant starting a business. I don't see how that is good.

There is absolutely no proof or evidence of that. It is now and always has been the immigrants that are most willing to take risks to start new small businesses in America.

One reason legal immigration is so important is that the U.S. population growth is projected to fall almost in half over the next three decades, with the growth in the working-age population falling even further. Without a growing younger population, strong economic growth is just not going to happen in US.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/de...mmigration_reform_from_the_erp_2013_final.pdf

What proof do you need? The world only needs so many things. If an immigrant already put a gas station in a prime location that kills an opportunity for somebody else.

If we continue to grow inequality and wages stay stagnant there will be no growth either.

Frankly, I would prefer an immigrant to open that gas station who has waited his turn to immigrate to the US and risk his last dime to an international corporate giant such as Shell.

According to the SBA, immigrants are almost twice as likely to start a small business than native born Americans.

What difference does it make if the station is opened by an immigrant. 50% of them will be US citizens in 8 years. The owner, regardless of whether he is an immigrant or 3rd or 4th generation American, he will create 5 to 10 new jobs and that is what America needs regardless of who created it.

Because there are only so many good business ideas. If an immigrant starts the business what happens to the citizen who would have otherwise put a gas station there? Our economy can't handle immigrants right now.

There is a wealth of good business ideas. There is a shortage of those willing to take risks associated with opening new small businesses. For too many Americans, security is their top priority, a secure rob, a secure retirement, and life in secure community. Immigrants unlike native born Americans tend to be risk takers. They give up a life in a culture and nation they know to take their chances in the land opportunity.

America was built and is being built by immigrants. Stopping the inflow of new blood into the nation would be disastrous for our future.

Not saying stop it, but it needs to be controlled. For every immigrant who starts a business there are thousands running down wages. And like I said those are businesses that could otherwise be started by current citizens.

 

[Flopper]

There is absolutely no proof or evidence of that. It is now and always has been the immigrants that are most willing to take risks to start new small businesses in America.

One reason legal immigration is so important is that the U.S. population growth is projected to fall almost in half over the next three decades, with the growth in the working-age population falling even further. Without a growing younger population, strong economic growth is just not going to happen in US.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/de...mmigration_reform_from_the_erp_2013_final.pdf

What proof do you need? The world only needs so many things. If an immigrant already put a gas station in a prime location that kills an opportunity for somebody else.

If we continue to grow inequality and wages stay stagnant there will be no growth either.

Frankly, I would prefer an immigrant to open that gas station who has waited his turn to immigrate to the US and risk his last dime to an international corporate giant such as Shell.

According to the SBA, immigrants are almost twice as likely to start a small business than native born Americans.

What difference does it make if the station is opened by an immigrant. 50% of them will be US citizens in 8 years. The owner, regardless of whether he is an immigrant or 3rd or 4th generation American, he will create 5 to 10 new jobs and that is what America needs regardless of who created it.

Because there are only so many good business ideas. If an immigrant starts the business what happens to the citizen who would have otherwise put a gas station there? Our economy can't handle immigrants right now.

There is a wealth of good business ideas. There is a shortage of those willing to take risks associated with opening new small businesses. For too many Americans, security is their top priority, a secure rob, a secure retirement, and life in secure community. Immigrants unlike native born Americans tend to be risk takers. They give up a life in a culture and nation they know to take their chances in the land opportunity.

America was built and is being built by immigrants. Stopping the inflow of new blood into the nation would be disastrous for our future.

Not saying stop it, but it needs to be controlled. For every immigrant who starts a business there are thousands running down wages. And like I said those are businesses that could otherwise be started by current citizens.

I agree. Legal and illegal Immigration has to be controlled. Immigration law sets a maximum 675,000 immigrants a year. However, the law recognizes for the need to keep families united so an additional 480,000 family-based visas are available every year. This brings the number of new immigrants to just over a million a year or about .3 percent of the US population. I think this is an acceptable number of new immigrants each year. However, this number could easily be increased by a half million without causing any major problem.

To this we must add illegal immigrants, permanent visas, temporary visas, refugees, diversity programs, and humanitarian programs. I think this is the area we need to reduce and control much more carefully. We need to enforce time limits on temporary visas which is not being done effectively now and there should be a limit as how long various visa's can be extended.

I think we should also increase permanent visa's available to those people with exceptional abilities and those that are investing over half million dollars in US businesses that employ over 90% US workers.

How the United States Immigration System Works: A Fact Sheet | Immigration Policy Center

 

[Rustic]

Actually, we don't need any more immigrants. What do we need them for? Does anyone believe that 330 million isn't enough people in this country?

We seem to forget that we are a nation of immigrants. America always needs legal immigrants for a number of reasons.

• Contrary to popular myth, immigrants do not push Americans out of jobs. Immigrants tend to fill jobs that Americans cannot or will not fill, mostly at the high and low ends of the skill spectrum.
• Immigrants start businesses. According to the Small Business Administration, immigrants are 30 percent more likely to start a business in the United States than non-immigrants, and 18 percent of all small business owners in the United States are immigrants.
• Immigrant owned businesses create jobs. According to the Fiscal Policy Institute, small businesses owned by immigrants employed an estimated 4.7 million people in 2007, and according to the latest estimates, these small businesses generated more than $776 billion annually.
• Immigrants develop cutting-edge technologies and companies.According to the National Venture Capital Association, immigrants have started 25 percent of public U.S. companies that were backed by venture capital investors. This list includes Google, eBay, Yahoo!, Sun Microsystems, and Intel.
• Unlike illegal immigrants, legal immigrants both blend into and add to the American culture.

Immigrants have enriched American culture and enhanced our influence in the world
Ten Ways Immigrants Help Build and Strengthen Our Economy

If it wasn't immigrants, it would be citizens starting businesses. Heck immigration might hurt the chances of a non immigrant starting a business. I don't see how that is good.

There is absolutely no proof or evidence of that. It is now and always has been the immigrants that are most willing to take risks to start new small businesses in America.

One reason legal immigration is so important is that the U.S. population growth is projected to fall almost in half over the next three decades, with the growth in the working-age population falling even further. Without a growing younger population, strong economic growth is just not going to happen in US.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/de...mmigration_reform_from_the_erp_2013_final.pdf

What proof do you need? The world only needs so many things. If an immigrant already put a gas station in a prime location that kills an opportunity for somebody else.

If we continue to grow inequality and wages stay stagnant there will be no growth either.

Frankly, I would prefer an immigrant to open that gas station who has waited his turn to immigrate to the US and risk his last dime to an international corporate giant such as Shell.

According to the SBA, immigrants are almost twice as likely to start a small business than native born Americans.

What difference does it make if the station is opened by an immigrant. 50% of them will be US citizens in 8 years. The owner, regardless of whether he is an immigrant or 3rd or 4th generation American, he will create 5 to 10 new jobs and that is what America needs regardless of who created it.

That is one of the reasons why everyone should reject socialism, socialism hates small business, therefore small business cannot function under a socialist government as seen the way we are heading.

Embrace the suck

 

[Flopper]

We seem to forget that we are a nation of immigrants. America always needs legal immigrants for a number of reasons.

• Contrary to popular myth, immigrants do not push Americans out of jobs. Immigrants tend to fill jobs that Americans cannot or will not fill, mostly at the high and low ends of the skill spectrum.
• Immigrants start businesses. According to the Small Business Administration, immigrants are 30 percent more likely to start a business in the United States than non-immigrants, and 18 percent of all small business owners in the United States are immigrants.
• Immigrant owned businesses create jobs. According to the Fiscal Policy Institute, small businesses owned by immigrants employed an estimated 4.7 million people in 2007, and according to the latest estimates, these small businesses generated more than $776 billion annually.
• Immigrants develop cutting-edge technologies and companies.According to the National Venture Capital Association, immigrants have started 25 percent of public U.S. companies that were backed by venture capital investors. This list includes Google, eBay, Yahoo!, Sun Microsystems, and Intel.
• Unlike illegal immigrants, legal immigrants both blend into and add to the American culture.

Immigrants have enriched American culture and enhanced our influence in the world
Ten Ways Immigrants Help Build and Strengthen Our Economy

If it wasn't immigrants, it would be citizens starting businesses. Heck immigration might hurt the chances of a non immigrant starting a business. I don't see how that is good.

There is absolutely no proof or evidence of that. It is now and always has been the immigrants that are most willing to take risks to start new small businesses in America.

One reason legal immigration is so important is that the U.S. population growth is projected to fall almost in half over the next three decades, with the growth in the working-age population falling even further. Without a growing younger population, strong economic growth is just not going to happen in US.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/de...mmigration_reform_from_the_erp_2013_final.pdf

What proof do you need? The world only needs so many things. If an immigrant already put a gas station in a prime location that kills an opportunity for somebody else.

If we continue to grow inequality and wages stay stagnant there will be no growth either.

Frankly, I would prefer an immigrant to open that gas station who has waited his turn to immigrate to the US and risk his last dime to an international corporate giant such as Shell.

According to the SBA, immigrants are almost twice as likely to start a small business than native born Americans.

What difference does it make if the station is opened by an immigrant. 50% of them will be US citizens in 8 years. The owner, regardless of whether he is an immigrant or 3rd or 4th generation American, he will create 5 to 10 new jobs and that is what America needs regardless of who created it.

That is one of the reasons why everyone should reject socialism, socialism hates small business, therefore small business cannot function under a socialist government as seen the way we are heading.

Embrace the suck

Socialism is not communism. There are plenty of small business in socialist countries through out Europe, In Denmark, 70% of businesses have less 50 employees.

 

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If it wasn't immigrants, it would be citizens starting businesses. Heck immigration might hurt the chances of a non immigrant starting a business. I don't see how that is good.

There is absolutely no proof or evidence of that. It is now and always has been the immigrants that are most willing to take risks to start new small businesses in America.

One reason legal immigration is so important is that the U.S. population growth is projected to fall almost in half over the next three decades, with the growth in the working-age population falling even further. Without a growing younger population, strong economic growth is just not going to happen in US.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/de...mmigration_reform_from_the_erp_2013_final.pdf

What proof do you need? The world only needs so many things. If an immigrant already put a gas station in a prime location that kills an opportunity for somebody else.

If we continue to grow inequality and wages stay stagnant there will be no growth either.

Frankly, I would prefer an immigrant to open that gas station who has waited his turn to immigrate to the US and risk his last dime to an international corporate giant such as Shell.

According to the SBA, immigrants are almost twice as likely to start a small business than native born Americans.

What difference does it make if the station is opened by an immigrant. 50% of them will be US citizens in 8 years. The owner, regardless of whether he is an immigrant or 3rd or 4th generation American, he will create 5 to 10 new jobs and that is what America needs regardless of who created it.

That is one of the reasons why everyone should reject socialism, socialism hates small business, therefore small business cannot function under a socialist government as seen the way we are heading.

Embrace the suck

Socialism is not communism. There are plenty of small business in socialist countries through out Europe, In Denmark, 70% of businesses have less 50 employees.

The goal socialism is communism.
-Vladimir Lenin-
One cannot exist without the other, history has proven this to be so without fail. By the way those European countries and their current form of government have not been around long enough to see what really happens long term. The bottom is going to fall out from underneath the whole euro zone may not be today or tomorrow but, they are all living on borrowed time. Their fiscal gap is far too large, to hold for very long.

 

[bripat9643]

If it wasn't immigrants, it would be citizens starting businesses. Heck immigration might hurt the chances of a non immigrant starting a business. I don't see how that is good.

There is absolutely no proof or evidence of that. It is now and always has been the immigrants that are most willing to take risks to start new small businesses in America.

One reason legal immigration is so important is that the U.S. population growth is projected to fall almost in half over the next three decades, with the growth in the working-age population falling even further. Without a growing younger population, strong economic growth is just not going to happen in US.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/de...mmigration_reform_from_the_erp_2013_final.pdf

What proof do you need? The world only needs so many things. If an immigrant already put a gas station in a prime location that kills an opportunity for somebody else.

If we continue to grow inequality and wages stay stagnant there will be no growth either.

Frankly, I would prefer an immigrant to open that gas station who has waited his turn to immigrate to the US and risk his last dime to an international corporate giant such as Shell.

According to the SBA, immigrants are almost twice as likely to start a small business than native born Americans.

What difference does it make if the station is opened by an immigrant. 50% of them will be US citizens in 8 years. The owner, regardless of whether he is an immigrant or 3rd or 4th generation American, he will create 5 to 10 new jobs and that is what America needs regardless of who created it.

That is one of the reasons why everyone should reject socialism, socialism hates small business, therefore small business cannot function under a socialist government as seen the way we are heading.

Embrace the suck

Socialism is not communism. There are plenty of small business in socialist countries through out Europe, In Denmark, 70% of businesses have less 50 employees.

Denmark is less socialist than the United States. All the countries you leftwing turds use as examples of successful socialism are actually capitalist welfare states.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

If it wasn't immigrants, it would be citizens starting businesses. Heck immigration might hurt the chances of a non immigrant starting a business. I don't see how that is good.

There is absolutely no proof or evidence of that. It is now and always has been the immigrants that are most willing to take risks to start new small businesses in America.

One reason legal immigration is so important is that the U.S. population growth is projected to fall almost in half over the next three decades, with the growth in the working-age population falling even further. Without a growing younger population, strong economic growth is just not going to happen in US.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/de...mmigration_reform_from_the_erp_2013_final.pdf

What proof do you need? The world only needs so many things. If an immigrant already put a gas station in a prime location that kills an opportunity for somebody else.

If we continue to grow inequality and wages stay stagnant there will be no growth either.

Frankly, I would prefer an immigrant to open that gas station who has waited his turn to immigrate to the US and risk his last dime to an international corporate giant such as Shell.

According to the SBA, immigrants are almost twice as likely to start a small business than native born Americans.

What difference does it make if the station is opened by an immigrant. 50% of them will be US citizens in 8 years. The owner, regardless of whether he is an immigrant or 3rd or 4th generation American, he will create 5 to 10 new jobs and that is what America needs regardless of who created it.

Because there are only so many good business ideas. If an immigrant starts the business what happens to the citizen who would have otherwise put a gas station there? Our economy can't handle immigrants right now.

There is a wealth of good business ideas. There is a shortage of those willing to take risks associated with opening new small businesses. For too many Americans, security is their top priority, a secure rob, a secure retirement, and life in a secure community. Immigrants unlike native born Americans tend to be risk takers. They give up a life in a culture and nation to start over again and take their chances in the land opportunity.

America was built and is being built by immigrants. Stopping the inflow of new blood into the nation would be disastrous for our future.

If new businesses are the problem, then foreigners are not the solution. Let government offer more incentives for Americans to open up these businesses and problem solved.

Not enough children being born? Same solution. It's much cheaper to give financial incentives to Americans who would love to have a larger family than to open up our borders to everybody else.