8 FEET OF SNOW IN 18 HOURS- Italy Reeling from masssive storm.

[westwall]

When it gets really, really cold, it doesn't snow. Snowing is precipitation. It requires evaporated moisture. Until recently, Antarctica was one of the driest deserts on the planet.

Antarctica has always (well, last 50 million years or so..) been one of the driest places on Earth. Water vapor residence time is 9 days so the meme that increased temps lead to more snow is hog wash. By the time the temps drop to the level where snow can form, the water vapor increase from a local warming has already dissipated. Nope. If it's warm you get rain, if it gets cold enough you get snow.

There is no such thing as "too cold to snow". What you can get is it being too dynamically stable to create snow. It takes three factors to create snow, a temp gradient that allows snow to reach the ground, saturated air, and enough lift to raise the saturated air to create the snow that will then fall back to Earth.

When it is extremely cold the dynamic lift is not present BECAUSE OF THE COLD!

 

[bripat9643]

Like the massive cyclone Pam, in the Pacific and the snow in Mexico City, this is just more evidence of global climate change.

Yeah, we know: mild winters - climate change; sever winters - climate change; lots of hurricanes - climate change; no hurricanes - climate change.

Can you name a single weather phenomenon that would not be evidence of climate change?

Unchanged, typical weather.

What kind of whether is that? Whether has been changing for thousands of years. Unchanged weather would be the most abnormal kind of weather imaginable. There's nothing typical about any weather we've had since the invention of writing.

That statement alone shows that AGW is a cult. It's not science.

 

[bripat9643]

When it gets really, really cold, it doesn't snow. Snowing is precipitation. It requires evaporated moisture. Until recently, Antarctica was one of the driest deserts on the planet.

It's never been that cold in the United States. We had massive snowfalls before anyone ever heard of global warming, and we're having them now.

 

[bripat9643]

Polar vortex is a phenomenon experienced by the entire northern hemisphere.

It's nothing new.

 

[percysunshine]

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Eight feet?

These are Italian men making the measurement. It was probably more like eight inches.

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[Old Rocks]

Swings wider and wilder, with an overall warming.

 

[westwall]

Swings wider and wilder, with an overall warming.

And to date, nothing is any different from any other time in mans written history. Epic fail olfraud, epic fail.

 

[Crick]

Polar vortex is a phenomenon experienced by the entire northern hemisphere.

It's nothing new.

No, just like warming and cooling it isn't new. But it's caused by warming and, in this instance, that warming is primarily due to human GHG emissions.

 

[skookerasbil]

wOrLdS rEcOrD


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[skookerasbil]

The term is Climate Change.

The term is weather.

Weather is local, climate is global.

meh

Nobody thinks that anymore!!!

 

[Crick]

Swings wider and wilder, with an overall warming.

And to date, nothing is any different from any other time in mans written history. Epic fail olfraud, epic fail.

So... why don't you identify those periods in the past when a dominant species produced gigatons of CO2 per year through the combustion of fossil fuel; identify the points when atmospheric CO2 levels rose 42% in 150 years.

 

[Crick]

One thing you folks need to get a handle on and that's to separate temperature from precipitation.

Total warming since the Industrial Revolution began is just breaking 1 centigrade degree and - hopefully - won't exceed 3 or 4 degrees within the next century. That is not sufficient warming to eliminate the existence of ice and snow on the planet. Antarctica is not expected to thaw. The changes that are causing the extreme winter weather we have been seeing for the last year or two involve two things: the relocation of Arctic air masses into more southerly latitudes and large amounts of water vapor in the air due to increased global average tropical and subtropical temperatures. The contention that heavy snow in Boston refutes global warming is nothing more than a demonstration of your prejudice and your ignorance.

 

[skookerasbil]

One thing you folks need to get a handle on and that's to separate temperature from precipitation.

Total warming since the Industrial Revolution began is just breaking 1 centigrade degree and - hopefully - won't exceed 3 or 4 degrees within the next century. That is not sufficient warming to eliminate the existence of ice and snow on the planet. Antarctica is not expected to thaw. The changes that are causing the extreme winter weather we have been seeing for the last year or two involve two things: the relocation of Arctic air masses into more southerly latitudes and large amounts of water vapor in the air due to increased global average tropical and subtropical temperatures. The contention that heavy snow in Boston refutes global warming is nothing more than a demonstration of your prejudice and your ignorance.

a theory


plus, the entire AGW community was telling us 15 years ago that there would be no more snow by now!!!

Snow no more Global warming skeptic reminds public of dire warnings


Top 5 failed snow free and ice free predictions The Daily Caller

Kinda doesn't work.........

 

[westwall]

Swings wider and wilder, with an overall warming.

And to date, nothing is any different from any other time in mans written history. Epic fail olfraud, epic fail.

So... why don't you identify those periods in the past when a dominant species produced gigatons of CO2 per year through the combustion of fossil fuel; identify the points when atmospheric CO2 levels rose 42% in 150 years.

No. It is you have made the claim that wilder weather will become the norm. That means you have to point to a time in mans written history (because that is sadly all we have) when the weather was milder than what we are experiencing now. You have to say, "see, this time here is different from the time now". The levels of CO2 in the atmosphere are irrelevant. What is relevant is what the weather is doing now. Is it any different from what has happened in the past. That is the very heart of the scientific method.

And, to date there is nothing different now, than at any time in mans history. Nothing.

 

[Crick]

 

[skookerasbil]

Oh.....the whole "extreme weather" crap has been debunked...........was a myth perpetuated by global warming nutters.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

The left wing zealots will tout this as caused by Global Warming when the facts is just the opposite.



And not one US Media outlet is saying a word...

Highest avg precip (including snow) in all of Italy in 1 year:

Tarvisio 55.8"

96" in less than a day? Nah, what makes you think climate change would be responsible for something that's never happened before?

 

[skookerasbil]

The left wing zealots will tout this as caused by Global Warming when the facts is just the opposite.



And not one US Media outlet is saying a word...

Highest avg precip (including snow) in all of Italy in 1 year:

Tarvisio 55.8"

96" in less than a day? Nah, what makes you think climate change would be responsible for something that's never happened before?

Oh Gawd!!

s0n..........the only thing that matters is that people who get dumped on by 40 feet of snow aren't thinking about climate change. Theyre thinking they are freezing their balls off while they are shoveling for days. Only committed global warming k00ks think people go inside in a mega snowstorm and start googling stuff on the consensus science. Nobody cares.......they see lots and lots and lots of lilly white snow, put on their nut sack warmers and have a cup of coffee. If anything, most ( operative term ) think the global warming k00ks got it wrong.

You missed the memo s0n.......reality is 95% perception.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

The left wing zealots will tout this as caused by Global Warming when the facts is just the opposite.



And not one US Media outlet is saying a word...

Highest avg precip (including snow) in all of Italy in 1 year:

Tarvisio 55.8"

96" in less than a day? Nah, what makes you think climate change would be responsible for something that's never happened before?

Oh Gawd!!

s0n..........the only thing that matters is that people who get dumped on by 40 feet of snow aren't thinking about climate change. Theyre thinking they are freezing their balls off while they are shoveling for days. Only committed global warming k00ks think people go inside in a mega snowstorm and start googling stuff on the consensus science. Nobody cares.......they see lots and lots and lots of lilly white snow, put on their nut sack warmers and have a cup of coffee. If anything, most ( operative term ) think the global warming k00ks got it wrong.

You missed the memo s0n.......reality is 95% perception.

"Reality is an opinion." Me

 

[skookerasbil]

The left wing zealots will tout this as caused by Global Warming when the facts is just the opposite.



And not one US Media outlet is saying a word...

Highest avg precip (including snow) in all of Italy in 1 year:

Tarvisio 55.8"

96" in less than a day? Nah, what makes you think climate change would be responsible for something that's never happened before?

Oh Gawd!!

s0n..........the only thing that matters is that people who get dumped on by 40 feet of snow aren't thinking about climate change. Theyre thinking they are freezing their balls off while they are shoveling for days. Only committed global warming k00ks think people go inside in a mega snowstorm and start googling stuff on the consensus science. Nobody cares.......they see lots and lots and lots of lilly white snow, put on their nut sack warmers and have a cup of coffee. If anything, most ( operative term ) think the global warming k00ks got it wrong.

You missed the memo s0n.......reality is 95% perception.

"Reality is an opinion." Me

Indeed.........which is exactly why "climate change science" is having zero impact in the real world!!!