81% rate hike for Obamacare - enough yet?

[Brain357]

Healthcare costs were soaring long before Obamacare. Repubs have no fix...

 

[BluesLegend]

Rampant fraud in government run Medicare/Medicaid, vets are left to die in government run VA healthcare, right lets have government run the entire healthcare system /SARCASM

Like the typical ignorant Trumpette., you know shit & promote the Trump lies.

The VA can only do what it can with its facilities & funding.


Medicare is very efficiently run you stupid fuck.

The GAO says you are a stupid moron lib, Medicare suffers from BILLIONS of dollars in fraud every year. As for your VA excuses I'm sure that's a comfort to the vets who are left to die waiting on healthcare.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Yup.

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Health Insurers in Idaho Request Premium Rate Hikes As High As 81%

Health care insurers in Idaho have requested premium rate hikes as high as 81 percent for next year, according to the state's Department of Insurance.

The five insurers serving the individual market in Idaho are Blue Cross of Idaho Health Service, Mountain Health Co-Op, PacificSource Health Plans, Regence BlueShield of Idaho, and SelectHealth.

For all plans, insurers requested rates ranging from a low of 25 percent to a high of 51 percent for a combined average statewide rate increase of 38 percent. For Obamacare's popular Silver plan, the average rate increase among all insurers was even higher at 50 percent, with one insurer requesting a high of 81 percent.

"I am deeply disappointed and frustrated to share these rates," said Dean Cameron, who directs the department. "I understand how difficult it will be for Idahoans to afford reasonable coverage, especially those without a subsidy."

Some victims of The "Affordable Care" Act (read "Obamacare) are now paying more for health insurance than for their house mortgage/tax escrow montly. For some having deciding whether to have "affordable health care" or a place to live.

Congratulations liberals (off both parties)! You're quickly achieving the goal of turning Americans into welfare drones - 'cause then they get Obamacaid (Medicaid) ffor free. Well, free to THEM but straight out of YOUR pocket.

This can't be true. Obama said families would save $2500/year.

 

[RealDave]

Rampant fraud in government run Medicare/Medicaid, vets are left to die in government run VA healthcare, right lets have government run the entire healthcare system /SARCASM

Like the typical ignorant Trumpette., you know shit & promote the Trump lies.

The VA can only do what it can with its facilities & funding.


Medicare is very efficiently run you stupid fuck.

The GAO says you are a stupid moron lib, Medicare suffers from BILLIONS of dollars in fraud every year. As for your VA excuses I'm sure that's a comfort to the vets who are left to die waiting on healthcare.

Fraud? So does the military. OMG OMG OMG'

So I guess you think there is no fraud in the private health insurance industry either. Which you pay for in higher premiums.

The VA needs better funding. The fraud entailed some VA hospitals hiding their long waiting lists because the VA had rules on wait times. So it was not a VA management issue but rather localized to some locations. These were solved through more funding & more resources. VA spending under Obama increase by 85% .

You can't keep piling on the list of VA eligible people without piling on likewise to the budgets.

 

[Conservative65]

There is no such thing as Trumpcare.

Ha ha ha exactly.... because Trump and the GOP were miserable failures trying to implement it.

Are you saying that everyone getting care under Obamacare that didn't have coverage prior lived and none of them died?

Something that doesn't exist can't be evaluated.

Keep kissing that Obama black ass, NL.

Don't put words in my mouth fuckwad. ..
thousands of lives were saved b/c of the ACA.
The smart thing would have been to improve the ACA. But we all know Trump and the GOP never do the right thing.
Their failure was collossal

You have too much of Obama's ass in your mouth to have anything else put there.

You can't improve something that is so bad it should be abandoned.

The right thing is to get government out of healthcare. If you want to provide those that say they can't afford it with it, prove it by buying their coverage with YOUR money. They aren't my problem nor my responsibility. If they aren't willing to do for themselves what they should be doing for themselves and you aren't willing to pick up their slack, let them do without. I have mine for me and my family and WE are my only responsibility.

Wow, you are sofa king full of shit, you have no clue how the ACA was funded.

I guarantee a low life dumbass like you paid none of the taxes that fund it.

One would think someone making such a bold statement would have provided supporting evidence of his claim. Since you didn't, your claim is dismissed, BOY.

 

[deanrd]

Yup.

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Health Insurers in Idaho Request Premium Rate Hikes As High As 81%

Health care insurers in Idaho have requested premium rate hikes as high as 81 percent for next year, according to the state's Department of Insurance.

The five insurers serving the individual market in Idaho are Blue Cross of Idaho Health Service, Mountain Health Co-Op, PacificSource Health Plans, Regence BlueShield of Idaho, and SelectHealth.

For all plans, insurers requested rates ranging from a low of 25 percent to a high of 51 percent for a combined average statewide rate increase of 38 percent. For Obamacare's popular Silver plan, the average rate increase among all insurers was even higher at 50 percent, with one insurer requesting a high of 81 percent.

"I am deeply disappointed and frustrated to share these rates," said Dean Cameron, who directs the department. "I understand how difficult it will be for Idahoans to afford reasonable coverage, especially those without a subsidy."

Some victims of The "Affordable Care" Act (read "Obamacare) are now paying more for health insurance than for their house mortgage/tax escrow montly. For some having deciding whether to have "affordable health care" or a place to live.

Congratulations liberals (off both parties)! You're quickly achieving the goal of turning Americans into welfare drones - 'cause then they get Obamacaid (Medicaid) ffor free. Well, free to THEM but straight out of YOUR pocket.

"as high as". Really, dumbfuck.

Furthermore, dickhead, those increases do not mean they all will pay that increase.

You people are dumber than shit.

How dare you insult sh!t.

 

[Conservative65]

The American people do not want Obamacare hence the election of president Trump.

They don't want to face the reality of the cost of health care under Big Health/GOP a-holes. Better pie in the sky promises and brainwashing...

Just admit it you want other people to work hard, then you want to confiscate THEIR money and use it to pay other peoples bills. Health insurance, housing, food, education, goddamn your side resembles the Borg.

I want tax cuts and cheap college and training for YOU, dupe. And you dupes have got the richest paying less %wise than the middle class and getting all the new wealth. You morons believe the rich pay too much! Absolute brainwashed idiocy...

How does it feel to be envious all your life? Lol

How does it feel to be a total dumbass all of YOUR life?

Why don't you tell me, BOY?

 

[Conservative65]

About time the GOP and its crony insurers stopped sabotaging and began fixing. Only the BS GOP propaganda machine and the dupes thought this was supposed to be a finished perfection. Go after costs which after all are the problem- our Big Health system costs much more than anywhere else, and only worked thru scams, cut offs, and not covering those with pre-existing. A GOP disgrace.

The disgrace is an unqualified black man putting a faulty system in place then expecting the white President to fix it.

After years of the GOP and crony insurers sabotaging it, of course it needs fixing. Scumbags and dupes, the New BS GOP, brainwashed functional racist shyttehead.

It needed abandoning before the left wing morons you pucker up to passed it.

Why is the white man expected to fix what the black boy fucked up?

Typical Trumpette. A racist POS ignorant fool.

Typical Obama NL. Pucker up.

 

[HenryBHough]

Just think about the peace of mind!

No longer worrying about your house being being the #1 near-crushing expense each month.

Replaced.....by the worry about your Obamacare payment instead!

Makes the house (until you lose it in bankruptcy) feel so much more like your (temporary) home!

 

[RealDave]

Ha ha ha exactly.... because Trump and the GOP were miserable failures trying to implement it.

Are you saying that everyone getting care under Obamacare that didn't have coverage prior lived and none of them died?

Something that doesn't exist can't be evaluated.

Keep kissing that Obama black ass, NL.

Don't put words in my mouth fuckwad. ..
thousands of lives were saved b/c of the ACA.
The smart thing would have been to improve the ACA. But we all know Trump and the GOP never do the right thing.
Their failure was collossal

You have too much of Obama's ass in your mouth to have anything else put there.

You can't improve something that is so bad it should be abandoned.

The right thing is to get government out of healthcare. If you want to provide those that say they can't afford it with it, prove it by buying their coverage with YOUR money. They aren't my problem nor my responsibility. If they aren't willing to do for themselves what they should be doing for themselves and you aren't willing to pick up their slack, let them do without. I have mine for me and my family and WE are my only responsibility.

Wow, you are sofa king full of shit, you have no clue how the ACA was funded.

I guarantee a low life dumbass like you paid none of the taxes that fund it.

One would think someone making such a bold statement would have provided supporting evidence of his claim. Since you didn't, your claim is dismissed, BOY.

First, you can shove the "BOY" up your fat ass.

What taxes did you pay that were under the ACA?

 

[Conservative65]

Remember 8 years ago, before Obamacare when insurance rates never went up?

Oh yeah, there were double digit increases all the time...

Not for me they weren't

-Geaux

Me either. Ever notice how the Obamacare supporters use doom and gloom to try and convince the ignorant?

 

[Conservative65]

Are you saying that everyone getting care under Obamacare that didn't have coverage prior lived and none of them died?

Something that doesn't exist can't be evaluated.

Keep kissing that Obama black ass, NL.

Don't put words in my mouth fuckwad. ..
thousands of lives were saved b/c of the ACA.
The smart thing would have been to improve the ACA. But we all know Trump and the GOP never do the right thing.
Their failure was collossal

You have too much of Obama's ass in your mouth to have anything else put there.

You can't improve something that is so bad it should be abandoned.

The right thing is to get government out of healthcare. If you want to provide those that say they can't afford it with it, prove it by buying their coverage with YOUR money. They aren't my problem nor my responsibility. If they aren't willing to do for themselves what they should be doing for themselves and you aren't willing to pick up their slack, let them do without. I have mine for me and my family and WE are my only responsibility.

Wow, you are sofa king full of shit, you have no clue how the ACA was funded.

I guarantee a low life dumbass like you paid none of the taxes that fund it.

One would think someone making such a bold statement would have provided supporting evidence of his claim. Since you didn't, your claim is dismissed, BOY.

First, you can shove the "BOY" up your fat ass.

What taxes did you pay that were under the ACA?

First, if you're man enough, you do it, BOY.

Secondly, you made the claim of "I guarantee a low life dumbass like you paid none of the taxes that fund it". Where's your proof, BOY?

See, that's twice I used something you demanded I not use. What the fuck are you going to do about it, BOY? Oops, three times.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Obama lied about Obamacare.

 

[mudwhistle]

nope ..

WASHINGTON — Bipartisanship is suddenly the talk of Capitol Hill, where Republicans and Democrats are now expressing a tentative desire to join hands after a brutal debate over Obamacare repeal.

In the House, the "Problem Solvers" caucus, which consists of 43 members from both parties, put out a list of broad principles for a series of Obamacare tweaks.

"My hope is we can be responsible legislators and recognize we can take on those cost issues, we can take on the issue of health care, but let's do it together," said Rep. Tom Reed, R-N.Y., who chairs the caucus, in an interview Tuesday.

The group's proposals include guaranteeing cost-sharing reduction payments to insurers, adding funding to help insurers cover expensive patients, partially repealing Obamacare's requirement for businesses to offer health benefits, and scrapping the law's tax on medical devices.

They also offered options to pay for the package, such as encouraging the use of generic drugs in Medicare. The cost could be a significant stumbling block to passage since it's likely the proposal would "significantly increase the deficit," according to Matthew Fiedler, a fellow at the Brookings Instutition.

In the Senate, Republican and Democratic leaders on the health committee announced in a joint statement that they would hold hearings early next month on how to calm Obamacare's tumultuous insurance markets.

"In my opinion, any solution that Congress passes for a 2018 stabilization package would need to be small, bipartisan and balanced," said Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn., the committee's chairman, in a statement.


deal with it ... ACA is the law.

Republicans chair the committee.

Bipartisanship to Democrats means Republicans give in and give them everything they want. It's like dealing with a bunch of spoiled brats you can't punish.

 

[ColonelAngus]

nope ..

WASHINGTON — Bipartisanship is suddenly the talk of Capitol Hill, where Republicans and Democrats are now expressing a tentative desire to join hands after a brutal debate over Obamacare repeal.

In the House, the "Problem Solvers" caucus, which consists of 43 members from both parties, put out a list of broad principles for a series of Obamacare tweaks.

"My hope is we can be responsible legislators and recognize we can take on those cost issues, we can take on the issue of health care, but let's do it together," said Rep. Tom Reed, R-N.Y., who chairs the caucus, in an interview Tuesday.

The group's proposals include guaranteeing cost-sharing reduction payments to insurers, adding funding to help insurers cover expensive patients, partially repealing Obamacare's requirement for businesses to offer health benefits, and scrapping the law's tax on medical devices.

They also offered options to pay for the package, such as encouraging the use of generic drugs in Medicare. The cost could be a significant stumbling block to passage since it's likely the proposal would "significantly increase the deficit," according to Matthew Fiedler, a fellow at the Brookings Instutition.

In the Senate, Republican and Democratic leaders on the health committee announced in a joint statement that they would hold hearings early next month on how to calm Obamacare's tumultuous insurance markets.

"In my opinion, any solution that Congress passes for a 2018 stabilization package would need to be small, bipartisan and balanced," said Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn., the committee's chairman, in a statement.


deal with it ... ACA is the law.

Republicans chair the committee.

Bipartisanship to Democrats means Republicans give in and give them everything they want. It's like dealing with a bunch of spoiled brats you can't punish.

Spoiled brats?

No way!!

 

[BluesLegend]

Rampant fraud in government run Medicare/Medicaid, vets are left to die in government run VA healthcare, right lets have government run the entire healthcare system /SARCASM

Like the typical ignorant Trumpette., you know shit & promote the Trump lies.

The VA can only do what it can with its facilities & funding.


Medicare is very efficiently run you stupid fuck.

The GAO says you are a stupid moron lib, Medicare suffers from BILLIONS of dollars in fraud every year. As for your VA excuses I'm sure that's a comfort to the vets who are left to die waiting on healthcare.

Fraud? So does the military. OMG OMG OMG'

So I guess you think there is no fraud in the private health insurance industry either. Which you pay for in higher premiums.

The VA needs better funding. The fraud entailed some VA hospitals hiding their long waiting lists because the VA had rules on wait times. So it was not a VA management issue but rather localized to some locations. These were solved through more funding & more resources. VA spending under Obama increase by 85% .

You can't keep piling on the list of VA eligible people without piling on likewise to the budgets.

You obviously know nothing about the VA, its government care aka shit care, the lowest quality of care provided by lame doctors and administrators who couldn't land a real job at a real hospital. The same low quality of care we'd all be stuck with under government run single payer.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Obamacare is a fucking nightmare.

Let's get the IRS involved in healthcare.

What could possibly go wrong?

 

[francoHFW]

Yup.

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Health Insurers in Idaho Request Premium Rate Hikes As High As 81%

Health care insurers in Idaho have requested premium rate hikes as high as 81 percent for next year, according to the state's Department of Insurance.

The five insurers serving the individual market in Idaho are Blue Cross of Idaho Health Service, Mountain Health Co-Op, PacificSource Health Plans, Regence BlueShield of Idaho, and SelectHealth.

For all plans, insurers requested rates ranging from a low of 25 percent to a high of 51 percent for a combined average statewide rate increase of 38 percent. For Obamacare's popular Silver plan, the average rate increase among all insurers was even higher at 50 percent, with one insurer requesting a high of 81 percent.

"I am deeply disappointed and frustrated to share these rates," said Dean Cameron, who directs the department. "I understand how difficult it will be for Idahoans to afford reasonable coverage, especially those without a subsidy."

Some victims of The "Affordable Care" Act (read "Obamacare) are now paying more for health insurance than for their house mortgage/tax escrow montly. For some having deciding whether to have "affordable health care" or a place to live.

Congratulations liberals (off both parties)! You're quickly achieving the goal of turning Americans into welfare drones - 'cause then they get Obamacaid (Medicaid) ffor free. Well, free to THEM but straight out of YOUR pocket.

They would have hiked them regardless.

Stop listening to healthcare Giants Republicans and idiots

They wouldn't be hiking them by 81%, moron.

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This is an insurer request, dupe, and won't happen. By now you should know this is GOP bs...

 

[francoHFW]

Yup.

81%​

Health Insurers in Idaho Request Premium Rate Hikes As High As 81%

Health care insurers in Idaho have requested premium rate hikes as high as 81 percent for next year, according to the state's Department of Insurance.

The five insurers serving the individual market in Idaho are Blue Cross of Idaho Health Service, Mountain Health Co-Op, PacificSource Health Plans, Regence BlueShield of Idaho, and SelectHealth.

For all plans, insurers requested rates ranging from a low of 25 percent to a high of 51 percent for a combined average statewide rate increase of 38 percent. For Obamacare's popular Silver plan, the average rate increase among all insurers was even higher at 50 percent, with one insurer requesting a high of 81 percent.

"I am deeply disappointed and frustrated to share these rates," said Dean Cameron, who directs the department. "I understand how difficult it will be for Idahoans to afford reasonable coverage, especially those without a subsidy."

Some victims of The "Affordable Care" Act (read "Obamacare) are now paying more for health insurance than for their house mortgage/tax escrow montly. For some having deciding whether to have "affordable health care" or a place to live.

Congratulations liberals (off both parties)! You're quickly achieving the goal of turning Americans into welfare drones - 'cause then they get Obamacaid (Medicaid) ffor free. Well, free to THEM but straight out of YOUR pocket.

This can't be true. Obama said families would save $2500/year.

Only dupes believe that was to be immediate. It's how much they will save over the huge rises we had before ACA. ACA has to be fully implemented first...

Medicaid may be no more expensive to the economy than the pre-ACA no preventive med, ER and bankruptcy "system" we had before...

 

[bripat9643]

The disgrace is an unqualified black man putting a faulty system in place then expecting the white President to fix it.

After years of the GOP and crony insurers sabotaging it, of course it needs fixing. Scumbags and dupes, the New BS GOP, brainwashed functional racist shyttehead.

It needed abandoning before the left wing morons you pucker up to passed it.

Why is the white man expected to fix what the black boy fucked up?

So, Trumpettes. This is your chance to prove you are not all racist POS assholes.

In your eyes, how would we do that?

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I knew you couldn't.

I knew you couldn't tell me because no matter what we did you would still call us racists.

It's what you do.