A 7-Day Workweek Could Soon Be Legal in Wisconsin

[kaz]

I don't know what you're smoking, but that's some pretty good shit based on how stoned you are. I support capitalism where we all get to make our own choices. You support big government and removal of choice, which is exactly what this is. This is all you, sweet heart. You're just tripping, girlfriend

Yes, Kaz. It just so happens then your brand of capitalism is like walking down the grocery aisle and believing that because all of the different "brands" signal choice when in reality 90% are owned by one company. The illusion of choice.

Great abstract definition, now give me a number. In other words answer the freaking question, here it is again just in case your dementia doesn't allow you to remember. "exactly what is a living wage in WI?"

It is abstract and that's why there is a process in place so that it can be challenged.

A process to challenge what, you have yet to define what "it" is. Come on is "it" $1.00 or $500.00 an hour? You freaking commies like to throw out the abstract terms like "living wage" and "fair share" but you refuse to tie them to anything in reality. Care to try again?

You dork. It's a legal term that has been used for over 100 years in Wisconsin and works so that it can be adjusted over time. It absolutely should be based on the job. That said, it needs to be high enough to keep people off of public aid.

Right, because companies will pay people more than they are worth because you want them to. I wouldn't take telemarketing calls, seriously, you believe politicians, you have zero ability to detect someone lying to you

Companies will pay the least that they can get away with.

Employees will make the most they can get away with

 

[kaz]

I don't know what you're smoking, but that's some pretty good shit based on how stoned you are. I support capitalism where we all get to make our own choices. You support big government and removal of choice, which is exactly what this is. This is all you, sweet heart. You're just tripping, girlfriend

Yes, Kaz. It just so happens then your brand of capitalism is like walking down the grocery aisle and believing that because all of the different "brands" signal choice when in reality 90% are owned by one company. The illusion of choice.

Great abstract definition, now give me a number. In other words answer the freaking question, here it is again just in case your dementia doesn't allow you to remember. "exactly what is a living wage in WI?"

It is abstract and that's why there is a process in place so that it can be challenged.

A process to challenge what, you have yet to define what "it" is. Come on is "it" $1.00 or $500.00 an hour? You freaking commies like to throw out the abstract terms like "living wage" and "fair share" but you refuse to tie them to anything in reality. Care to try again?

You dork. It's a legal term that has been used for over 100 years in Wisconsin and works so that it can be adjusted over time. It absolutely should be based on the job. That said, it needs to be high enough to keep people off of public aid.

Oh..Now it is a legal term...How so? There is no set living wage. The concept is subjective.
A living wage should be based on needs.
The Left has decided that a living wage should be based on wants and creature comforts.
There is a living wage calculator.....Living Wage Calculator
For example this calculator believes that a family of 4 living in Los Angeles County CA should be paid over $30 per hour....
For an unskilled worker that is an absurd amount of money.

Living wage is a legal term in the state of Wisconsin. I already provided that information. Living wage is the amount of money that pays to keep people from having people on state aid. There is no excuse for having to subsidize workers for Walmart. Seriously.

So employees won't take more money than their employer can afford, right?

 

[Disir]

Yes, Kaz. It just so happens then your brand of capitalism is like walking down the grocery aisle and believing that because all of the different "brands" signal choice when in reality 90% are owned by one company. The illusion of choice.
It is abstract and that's why there is a process in place so that it can be challenged.

A process to challenge what, you have yet to define what "it" is. Come on is "it" $1.00 or $500.00 an hour? You freaking commies like to throw out the abstract terms like "living wage" and "fair share" but you refuse to tie them to anything in reality. Care to try again?

You dork. It's a legal term that has been used for over 100 years in Wisconsin and works so that it can be adjusted over time. It absolutely should be based on the job. That said, it needs to be high enough to keep people off of public aid.

Right, because companies will pay people more than they are worth because you want them to. I wouldn't take telemarketing calls, seriously, you believe politicians, you have zero ability to detect someone lying to you

Companies will pay the least that they can get away with.

Employees will make the most they can get away with

You bored, Kaz?

 

[OKTexas]

I have yet to see those who have done what their supposed to be unable to find employment for any extended period. Then you have those flipping burgers, who can't get an order right or speak in a halfway intelligent manner demanding $15.00 an hour just because they show up and blaming their circumstance on their employer.

I'm thinking you should pay more attention to the outsourcing of your jobs.

Right, more excuses for personal failure, because people can only learn one trade in a lifetime.

What trade would you like them to learn? Let's see, legal is outsourced, banking is outsourced, manufacturing is outsourced............

Plumbing, electrician, HVAC, machinist, truck driving, nursing and many other skilled trades are begging for people. All of them pay well, usually have good benefits, but you have to be willing to break a sweat, too many think jobs like those are beneath them. Folks with that attitude deserve to go hungry.

Some will but many won't.

And what do you propose to do with the ones that won't, support them indefinitely?

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Gotta work harder ..7 days a week...but earn less money ...no overtime...your GOP....

 

[danielpalos]

I'm thinking you should pay more attention to the outsourcing of your jobs.

Right, more excuses for personal failure, because people can only learn one trade in a lifetime.

What trade would you like them to learn? Let's see, legal is outsourced, banking is outsourced, manufacturing is outsourced............

Plumbing, electrician, HVAC, machinist, truck driving, nursing and many other skilled trades are begging for people. All of them pay well, usually have good benefits, but you have to be willing to break a sweat, too many think jobs like those are beneath them. Folks with that attitude deserve to go hungry.

Some will but many won't.

And what do you propose to do with the ones that won't, support them indefinitely?

You make it seem like Capitalism doesn't merely require capital to work; why does the right confuse a social work ethic with a capital work ethic while complaining about socialism?

 

[Disir]

I'm thinking you should pay more attention to the outsourcing of your jobs.

Right, more excuses for personal failure, because people can only learn one trade in a lifetime.

What trade would you like them to learn? Let's see, legal is outsourced, banking is outsourced, manufacturing is outsourced............

Plumbing, electrician, HVAC, machinist, truck driving, nursing and many other skilled trades are begging for people. All of them pay well, usually have good benefits, but you have to be willing to break a sweat, too many think jobs like those are beneath them. Folks with that attitude deserve to go hungry.

Some will but many won't.

And what do you propose to do with the ones that won't, support them indefinitely?

How many are begging?
The Nursing Shortage Myth The Health Care Blog

As The World Churns The Driver Shortage Myth TruckingTruth TruckingTruth Blog

The reality is that there is no shortage. Just don't want to pay.

You are always going to find people that really aren't worth a damn and for whatever reason.

 

[OKTexas]

Right, more excuses for personal failure, because people can only learn one trade in a lifetime.

What trade would you like them to learn? Let's see, legal is outsourced, banking is outsourced, manufacturing is outsourced............

Plumbing, electrician, HVAC, machinist, truck driving, nursing and many other skilled trades are begging for people. All of them pay well, usually have good benefits, but you have to be willing to break a sweat, too many think jobs like those are beneath them. Folks with that attitude deserve to go hungry.

Some will but many won't.

And what do you propose to do with the ones that won't, support them indefinitely?

You make it seem like Capitalism doesn't merely require capital to work; why does the right confuse a social work ethic with a capital work ethic while complaining about socialism?

Example please.

 

[danielpalos]

What trade would you like them to learn? Let's see, legal is outsourced, banking is outsourced, manufacturing is outsourced............

Plumbing, electrician, HVAC, machinist, truck driving, nursing and many other skilled trades are begging for people. All of them pay well, usually have good benefits, but you have to be willing to break a sweat, too many think jobs like those are beneath them. Folks with that attitude deserve to go hungry.

Some will but many won't.

And what do you propose to do with the ones that won't, support them indefinitely?

You make it seem like Capitalism doesn't merely require capital to work; why does the right confuse a social work ethic with a capital work ethic while complaining about socialism?

Example please.

Unemployment compensation on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States could solve simple poverty and a natural rate of unemployment; by abolishing the poverty usually associated with a lack of income.

What private sector would be worse off, if the People can obtain a form of minimum wage on an at-will basis that clears our poverty guidelines simply for being unemployed on that same, at-will basis in our at-will employment States.

 

[dblack]

Plumbing, electrician, HVAC, machinist, truck driving, nursing and many other skilled trades are begging for people. All of them pay well, usually have good benefits, but you have to be willing to break a sweat, too many think jobs like those are beneath them. Folks with that attitude deserve to go hungry.

Some will but many won't.

And what do you propose to do with the ones that won't, support them indefinitely?

You make it seem like Capitalism doesn't merely require capital to work; why does the right confuse a social work ethic with a capital work ethic while complaining about socialism?

Example please.

Unemployment compensation on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States could solve simple poverty and a natural rate of unemployment; by abolishing the poverty usually associated with a lack of income.

What private sector would be worse off, if the People can obtain a form of minimum wage on an at-will basis that clears our poverty guidelines simply for being unemployed on that same, at-will basis in our at-will employment States.

FTW!!

 

[Brain357]

Wisconsin’s GOP is trying to nix an existing law that requires employers in the manufacturing and retail sectors to give employees at least 24 hours off during each consecutive seven-day period. Currently, for an employee to skip his or her weekly day off, an employer has to get approval from the state’s Department of Workforce Development. The Wisconsin Manufacturers and Commerce association—a staunch advocate of the bill—suggests that the step is onerous and unnecessary, since the department has approved 733 such requests over the past five years, a number they imply means that the department is rubber-stamping the requests. Supporters also suggest that the plan ultimately helps employees who want to work more hours.
Will Wisconsin Have 7-Day Workweeks - The Atlantic

Yep. The GOP is awesome.

Morons.

No wonder WI has such bad job creation numbers.

 

[OKTexas]

Right, more excuses for personal failure, because people can only learn one trade in a lifetime.

What trade would you like them to learn? Let's see, legal is outsourced, banking is outsourced, manufacturing is outsourced............

Plumbing, electrician, HVAC, machinist, truck driving, nursing and many other skilled trades are begging for people. All of them pay well, usually have good benefits, but you have to be willing to break a sweat, too many think jobs like those are beneath them. Folks with that attitude deserve to go hungry.

Some will but many won't.

And what do you propose to do with the ones that won't, support them indefinitely?

How many are begging?
The Nursing Shortage Myth The Health Care Blog

As The World Churns The Driver Shortage Myth TruckingTruth TruckingTruth Blog

The reality is that there is no shortage. Just don't want to pay.

You are always going to find people that really aren't worth a damn and for whatever reason.

Blogs, seriously:

employment ads for nurses - Bing

employment ads for truck drivers - Bing

I worked in the trucking industry before I retired, I'm aware of the turnover rates. I also know there are many driving jobs that are local type delivery, ranging from auto parts stores to gas and propane delivery that pay a decent wage.

I also have direct knowledge that hospitals all over the country are having to hire contract nurses usually from out of state to fill positions.

So feel free to believe your blogs, I'll go with what I know as facts.

 

[OKTexas]

Plumbing, electrician, HVAC, machinist, truck driving, nursing and many other skilled trades are begging for people. All of them pay well, usually have good benefits, but you have to be willing to break a sweat, too many think jobs like those are beneath them. Folks with that attitude deserve to go hungry.

Some will but many won't.

And what do you propose to do with the ones that won't, support them indefinitely?

You make it seem like Capitalism doesn't merely require capital to work; why does the right confuse a social work ethic with a capital work ethic while complaining about socialism?

Example please.

Unemployment compensation on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States could solve simple poverty and a natural rate of unemployment; by abolishing the poverty usually associated with a lack of income.

What private sector would be worse off, if the People can obtain a form of minimum wage on an at-will basis that clears our poverty guidelines simply for being unemployed on that same, at-will basis in our at-will employment States.

Why are you always trying to use word games? What the fuck is unemployment on an at-will basis, sit on you ass and expect someone to pay you for it. You might want to get a freaking reality check.

 

[Disir]

What trade would you like them to learn? Let's see, legal is outsourced, banking is outsourced, manufacturing is outsourced............

Plumbing, electrician, HVAC, machinist, truck driving, nursing and many other skilled trades are begging for people. All of them pay well, usually have good benefits, but you have to be willing to break a sweat, too many think jobs like those are beneath them. Folks with that attitude deserve to go hungry.

Some will but many won't.

And what do you propose to do with the ones that won't, support them indefinitely?

How many are begging?
The Nursing Shortage Myth The Health Care Blog

As The World Churns The Driver Shortage Myth TruckingTruth TruckingTruth Blog

The reality is that there is no shortage. Just don't want to pay.

You are always going to find people that really aren't worth a damn and for whatever reason.

Blogs, seriously:

employment ads for nurses - Bing

employment ads for truck drivers - Bing

I worked in the trucking industry before I retired, I'm aware of the turnover rates. I also know there are many driving jobs that are local type delivery, ranging from auto parts stores to gas and propane delivery that pay a decent wage.

I also have direct knowledge that hospitals all over the country are having to hire contract nurses usually from out of state to fill positions.

So feel free to believe your blogs, I'll go with what I know as facts.

You have a few scattered areas with a shortage but it isn't nationwide. It's like the BS with the STEM shortage. There is none. It's about driving down wages. You guys can BS all you want but the reality is that these people don't want to pay.

 

[OKTexas]

Wisconsin’s GOP is trying to nix an existing law that requires employers in the manufacturing and retail sectors to give employees at least 24 hours off during each consecutive seven-day period. Currently, for an employee to skip his or her weekly day off, an employer has to get approval from the state’s Department of Workforce Development. The Wisconsin Manufacturers and Commerce association—a staunch advocate of the bill—suggests that the step is onerous and unnecessary, since the department has approved 733 such requests over the past five years, a number they imply means that the department is rubber-stamping the requests. Supporters also suggest that the plan ultimately helps employees who want to work more hours.
Will Wisconsin Have 7-Day Workweeks - The Atlantic

Yep. The GOP is awesome.

Morons.

No wonder WI has such bad job creation numbers.

Really,

“Wisconsin’s unemployment rate dropped below 5.0% percent for the first time since 2008 while employment reached an all-time high,” DWD Secretary Reggie Newson said. “The state’s preliminary addition of 13,600 private sector jobs over the month is the best one-month jump since September 2003 according to the benchmarked series. And, with an upward revision of January’s month-over-month gain by 4,200 jobs, the monthly data series suggests we are off to a strong economic start in 2015.”

DWD numbers show Wisconsin unemployment below 5

 

[OKTexas]

Plumbing, electrician, HVAC, machinist, truck driving, nursing and many other skilled trades are begging for people. All of them pay well, usually have good benefits, but you have to be willing to break a sweat, too many think jobs like those are beneath them. Folks with that attitude deserve to go hungry.

Some will but many won't.

And what do you propose to do with the ones that won't, support them indefinitely?

How many are begging?
The Nursing Shortage Myth The Health Care Blog

As The World Churns The Driver Shortage Myth TruckingTruth TruckingTruth Blog

The reality is that there is no shortage. Just don't want to pay.

You are always going to find people that really aren't worth a damn and for whatever reason.

Blogs, seriously:

employment ads for nurses - Bing

employment ads for truck drivers - Bing

I worked in the trucking industry before I retired, I'm aware of the turnover rates. I also know there are many driving jobs that are local type delivery, ranging from auto parts stores to gas and propane delivery that pay a decent wage.

I also have direct knowledge that hospitals all over the country are having to hire contract nurses usually from out of state to fill positions.

So feel free to believe your blogs, I'll go with what I know as facts.

You have a few scattered areas with a shortage but it isn't nationwide. It's like the BS with the STEM shortage. There is none. It's about driving down wages. You guys can BS all you want but the reality is that these people don't want to pay.

You statement is contrary to the laws of economics, shortages, even perceived shortages drive up costs, not down.

 

[dblack]

Some will but many won't.

And what do you propose to do with the ones that won't, support them indefinitely?

How many are begging?
The Nursing Shortage Myth The Health Care Blog

As The World Churns The Driver Shortage Myth TruckingTruth TruckingTruth Blog

The reality is that there is no shortage. Just don't want to pay.

You are always going to find people that really aren't worth a damn and for whatever reason.

Blogs, seriously:

employment ads for nurses - Bing

employment ads for truck drivers - Bing

I worked in the trucking industry before I retired, I'm aware of the turnover rates. I also know there are many driving jobs that are local type delivery, ranging from auto parts stores to gas and propane delivery that pay a decent wage.

I also have direct knowledge that hospitals all over the country are having to hire contract nurses usually from out of state to fill positions.

So feel free to believe your blogs, I'll go with what I know as facts.

You have a few scattered areas with a shortage but it isn't nationwide. It's like the BS with the STEM shortage. There is none. It's about driving down wages. You guys can BS all you want but the reality is that these people don't want to pay.

You statement is contrary to the laws of economics, shortages, even perceived shortages drive up costs, not down.

That is a rather odd claim. Disir, how does faking shortages drive prices down?

 

[danielpalos]

Some will but many won't.

And what do you propose to do with the ones that won't, support them indefinitely?

You make it seem like Capitalism doesn't merely require capital to work; why does the right confuse a social work ethic with a capital work ethic while complaining about socialism?

Example please.

Unemployment compensation on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States could solve simple poverty and a natural rate of unemployment; by abolishing the poverty usually associated with a lack of income.

What private sector would be worse off, if the People can obtain a form of minimum wage on an at-will basis that clears our poverty guidelines simply for being unemployed on that same, at-will basis in our at-will employment States.

FTW!!

too complicated for you?

 

[Jarlaxle]

Yep...when I want to work, I work 70 hours a week...where the federal government FORCES me to stop...and I learned every trick to work the system so I could get as much as possible out of that allotted time period before I had to stop...if it was up to me, I'd work more. Because of those longer weeks, I'm in a position now where I work when I want to.

If people want to work, let them work.

Truck driver?

 

[danielpalos]

Some will but many won't.

And what do you propose to do with the ones that won't, support them indefinitely?

You make it seem like Capitalism doesn't merely require capital to work; why does the right confuse a social work ethic with a capital work ethic while complaining about socialism?

Example please.

Unemployment compensation on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States could solve simple poverty and a natural rate of unemployment; by abolishing the poverty usually associated with a lack of income.

What private sector would be worse off, if the People can obtain a form of minimum wage on an at-will basis that clears our poverty guidelines simply for being unemployed on that same, at-will basis in our at-will employment States.

Why are you always trying to use word games? What the fuck is unemployment on an at-will basis, sit on you ass and expect someone to pay you for it. You might want to get a freaking reality check.

I believe in capitalism, don't you?

Why does the right prefer to bear false witness to our own laws and expect to be taken seriously, with moral seriousness?

There is no appeal to ignorance of the law.

Why do you believe someone on unemployment compensation for being unemployed on an at-will basis will just, sit on their ass?