Zone1 A bunch of verses that prove that ALL who ever existed will live in God's Kingdom!

Carl in Michigan said:
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She IS wrong. Jesus doesn't throw people away forever.
 
Z99 said:
She IS wrong. Jesus doesn't throw people away forever.
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Jesus warns otherwise:

Now there were some present at that time who told Jesus about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mixed with their sacrifices. 2 Jesus answered, “Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans because they suffered this way? 3 I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish. 4 Or those eighteen who died when the tower in Siloam fell on them—do you think they were more guilty than all the others living in Jerusalem? 5 I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.”


And ye shall tread down the wicked, for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this,” saith the Lord of hosts.
 
Carl in Michigan said:
Jesus warns otherwise:
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Lamentations 3:31-33 says, "For no one is cast off by the Lord forever. Though he brings grief, he will show compassion, so great is his unfailing love. For he does not willingly bring affliction or grief to anyone".
 
Z99 said:
Lamentations 3:31-33 says, "For no one is cast off by the Lord forever. Though he brings grief, he will show compassion, so great is his unfailing love. For he does not willingly bring affliction or grief to anyone".
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So you believe God's grace of forgiveness is unconditional?
 
ding said:
So... forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us, isn't a condition of forgiveness?
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You're a legalist and don't know God's nature. God sent Jesus to save the world, not condemn it.
 
Z99 said:
You're a legalist and don't know God's nature. God sent Jesus to save the world, not condemn it.
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Jesus is the one who told us how to pray. I'm just repeating what Jesus said. But if you don't think you are required to forgive others for their trespasses against you to receive God's forgiveness for your trespasses against God, so be it. That's on you.
 
ding said:
Jesus is the one who told us how to pray. I'm just repeating what Jesus said. But if you don't think you are required to forgive others for their trespasses against you to receive God's forgiveness for your trespasses against God, so be it. That's on you.
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Ever the legalist. No understanding. So be it.
 
Z99 said:
Ever the legalist. No understanding. So be it.
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If someone were to say, "The sun rises in the east," that is not being a legalist, merely a stater of fact.

Notice that in the prayer Jesus' taught, he taught us to ask God to forgive us as we forgive others. Matthew records Jesus as teaching, "For if you forgive others their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you, but if you do not forgive others their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses."

This is not legalese, it teaches the benefits of forgiving others and consequences of not forgiving.
 
Meriweather said:
If someone were to say, "The sun rises in the east," that is not being a legalist, merely a stater of fact.

Notice that in the prayer Jesus' taught, he taught us to ask God to forgive us as we forgive others. Matthew records Jesus as teaching, "For if you forgive others their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you, but if you do not forgive others their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses."

This is not legalese, it teaches the benefits of forgiving others and consequences of not forgiving.
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Yea, none of that is in dispute.
 
All the animals too?

And where does the Catholic church draw the line between when we stopped being animals and started being humans?

The question became necessary when the C.C. decided it must accept Darwinian evolution.

The C.C.'s flock wants to know, even if they aren't asking publicly.
 
Meriweather said:
If someone were to say, "The sun rises in the east," that is not being a legalist, merely a stater of fact.

Notice that in the prayer Jesus' taught, he taught us to ask God to forgive us as we forgive others. Matthew records Jesus as teaching, "For if you forgive others their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you, but if you do not forgive others their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses."

This is not legalese, it teaches the benefits of forgiving others and consequences of not forgiving.
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Others, meant to include the 'great apes' and them being closely related to humans, as now understood with the C.C.'s acceptance of Darwinian evolution.
 
Donald H said:
Others, meant to include the 'great apes' and them being closely related to humans, as now understood with the C.C.'s acceptance of Darwinian evolution.
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Are the great apes known for their knowledge of good and evil?
 
Donald H said:
The C.C.'s flock wants to know, even if they aren't asking publicly.
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How did you arrive at this conclusion? Most people--Catholic and otherwise--accept the reality there is a lot we don't know and have no way of knowing. There is much in life to ponder. The above doesn't make the cut.
 
Meriweather said:
Are the great apes known for their knowledge of good and evil?
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Yes! In fact the experiment with Koko demonstrated her ability to understand compassion for others.

Francine Patterson - Wikipedia

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Francine broke through the wall erected by Christianity that separated gorilla's from humans.

Koko achieved an IQ of 80-90!

Koko wasn't unusually intelligent for a gorilla, she just was lucky to have a good person take an interest in making the breakthrough.
 
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