A clear reason why we need closed Primaries

[martybegan]

key words being "I WOULD TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER"

am I not allowed my opinion under the first amendment??

see once again you openly reject the 1st amendment,,

Who is stopping your opinion? I said you would want to silence people in parties, and that's exactly what you said, and 25 pages of denials by you and gaslighting by you later, I bring your OWN FUCKING QUOTE up and now you try a goal post move.

You would stop Democrats and Republicans from taking part in the political process, declare their members terrorists, and the organizations terrorists, and you WONDER WHY I CALLED YOU A FUCKING FASCIST?

Good god, read a history book on how authoritarian parties take power, it's like you are reading their playbook, dumbass.

 

[progressive hunter]

Who is stopping your opinion? I said you would want to silence people in parties, and that's exactly what you said, and 25 pages of denials by you and gaslighting by you later, I bring your OWN FUCKING QUOTE up and now you try a goal post move.

You would stop Democrats and Republicans from taking part in the political process, declare their members terrorists, and the organizations terrorists, and you WONDER WHY I CALLED YOU A FUCKING FASCIST?

Good god, read a history book on how authoritarian parties take power, it's like you are reading their playbook, dumbass.

no where did I say silence anyone,, people are free to speak all they want,, and no goal posts were moved,,

just your comment that rights are not absolute is all the proof needed that you reject human rights as a whole,,,

all I said was political parties shouldnt be involved in federal politics because representatives are elected to represent the people or state that elected them not the party they belong too,,,

 

[martybegan]

no where did I say silence anyone,, people are free to speak all they want,, and no goal posts were moved,,

just your comment that rights are not absolute is all the proof needed that you reject human rights as a whole,,,

all I said was political parties shouldnt be involved in federal politics because representatives are elected to represent the people or state that elected them not the party they belong too,,,

You said more than that, and are now trying to walk it back, you intellectual coward.

 

[alang1216]

because its required by law to allow time off to vote we already have all the holiday needed,,

Why should it be a hardship on people or businesses?

 

[alang1216]

So you are OK with your vote being not what you wanted if some new information comes out, or the dude dies during the process?

That's my choice, yes.

 

[martybegan]

That's my choice, yes.

Alrighty then.

It's a dumb choice, but your choice.

 

[progressive hunter]

Why should it be a hardship on people or businesses?

no one said freedom is free or easy,, what are you such a fucking pussy you cant take a few hrs off work??

why after 200 yrs it was never a problem and now all of the sudden its a problem??

 

[Toro]

Yall voted for a dead guy in PA.
Please, save us your bullshit

MO voted for a dead guy for Senate in 2000.

 

[progressive hunter]

You said more than that, and are now trying to walk it back, you intellectual coward.

not walking anything back,,

 

[alang1216]

no one said freedom is free or easy,, what are you such a fucking pussy you cant take a few hrs off work??

why after 200 yrs it was never a problem and now all of the sudden its a problem??

My thoughts exactly. For my entire life we have accepted the outcome of our elections. Now all of a sudden it's a problem and we need to change our rules?

 

[progressive hunter]

My thoughts exactly. For my entire life we have accepted the outcome of our elections. Now all of a sudden it's a problem and we need to change our rules?

thats not what I said and you know it,, elections have been challenged since the very beginning,,

 

[martybegan]

not walking anything back,,

Read your own statement, you fucking tard. Declaring people part of a terrorist organization MEANS removing their political rights.

 

[progressive hunter]

Read your own statement, you fucking tard. Declaring people part of a terrorist organization MEANS removing their political rights.

no I said the organization itself,,, the people still have all the rights god gave them,,,

 

[alang1216]

thats not what I said and you know it,, elections have been challenged since the very beginning,,

Usually there was a reason and proof.

 

[dblack]

Usually there was a reason and proof.

How old-fashioned.

 

[progressive hunter]

Usually there was a reason and proof.

why did you twist the topic from voting day into election challenges??

 

[TNHarley]

MO voted for a dead guy for Senate in 2000.

Another reason why neither side has any room to bash the other.

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

I think party based primaries should not exist.

I’m confused by your position, which I usually find sober and reasonable.

Surely you recognize the right to freedom of association…

Are you saying a political party, let’s say a minor party struggling to cohere as an alternative to the two major ones, should not be able to independently choose its own candidates? Would that rule be enforced by the government?

Should the Republican Party not have had the exclusive right to choice Abraham Lincoln as its candidate in 1860?

So-called “closed primaries” are the modern democrat equivalent of the old system of party bosses choosing mainstream party candidates in smoke-filled rooms, or in party conventions.

Perhaps I don’t understand your thinking. Or perhaps you haven’t thought this out clearly?

 

[alang1216]

why did you twist the topic from voting day into election challenges??

I believe it was you who what changed. Voter IDs are one example.

 

[progressive hunter]

I think party based primaries should not exist.

then what do you base primaries on?? it is for parties to decide who is their candidate,,

what should happen is the parties run their own primaries without the states money or resources,,