A defining moment last night..."Deport ALL ILLEGALS!"

[the_human_being]

Donald Trump took his build-a-wall approach to immigration one step further last night when he vowed that, if elected president, he'd deport 11 million undocumented immigrants. Of course the DemocRAT/Socialist/BigBusiness RINO's, Kasick, and the "Yebster' had to jump in with Kasick, saying, "It's a silly argument. It's not an adult argument. We all know you can't pick them up and ship them back across the border."

To which Trump quoted that IKE, sent back over 1.5 million in under a year!

With what we see going on in Europe with UNLIMITED FOREIGNERS coming into a country DEMANDING of those government to TAKE CARE OF ME, the CRIME RATE RISING FROM THESE SCUM, and rioting destroying property, and looting, do we have to look forward to the same sort of things, as we RUN OUT of money to do what the subversives want to do, FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE America?.... "It's not embracing American values," Yeb Bush said. "And it would tear communities apart and it would send a signal that we're not the kind of country I know America is."......Is SUICIDE an American principle? Trump, and a few others have it right, we don't want them, we don't need them, and LET THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT take care of them!

The 11 million or so will likely be dumped on local criminal justice systems; local courts, local prosecutors, local public defenders, local investigators, local jails, local health services and local taxpayers.

Trump and the rest of the clowns claim to be fiscally conservative, and yet prove to be fiscally irresponsible.

Then, while detained in local jails, within 48 hours they need to be charged, so more deputy US Attorney's will need to be hired, many Administrative Law Judges will need to be hired, more US Deputy Marshall's will need to be hired and Congress will need to allocate the funds to do so, plus provide funding to provide to local governments to recover the cost of food, lodging and medical care for the detainees.

One those funds have been spent, and the detainee is ordered detained, planes, trains and buses, with US Deputy Marshall's riding along need to be used and paid for to take the detainee to a country which will take them.

The only real question I have is this: How can anyone be so stupid as to support such an untenable task?

Well, I guess conservatives can slash funding for our poor to pay for it.

Or better yet, we could arrange another tax cut for the wealthy to pay for deporting Mexicans

Or we can bomb Mexico into oblivion and send in Halliburton to rebuild it.

Let's not destroy it. They have far too many great resort towns for us to destroy.

 

[the_human_being]

Kasich was the only being realistic about the immigration issue

I found Kasich views on illegals offensive and dishonest. This is not an "immigration" issue this is about illegals sneaking across our borders illegally, then breaking all manner of our laws once they get here. It costs us billions of dollars. They are a net loss to our economy. They traffic drugs into our country destroying our kids. They commit tax fraud on a massive scale, its over $4 billion a year. They flood our emergency rooms, overwhelm our education system, half of them are on some form of public assistance. The crime they commit is insane, we have gone to war with countries that have killed fewer American citizens than illegals have. Did Kasich mention any of this? No of course not.

Do you know any illegal immigrants?

I think not. I know and have worked with many over the years. Like all people they come in every flavor. The vast majority are like you, they want to work and provide for their families. There is nothing about brown skin that makes one a criminal.

By the way, I'm not in favor of illegal immigration, it drives down the wage base and hurts the middle class. But, I also don't hate those who are only seeking to better their lives.

They are illegal because they lack a piece of paper. Give them the piece of paper that lets them work legally and allow them to go back to their families when they feel like it

^^^ ignorant or a lie. The vast majority of illegals do not meet the requirements to immigrate to the USA legally, their application would be rejected.

Very true

Mexicans never used to have a problem coming here, working and then returning home. Then we decided to get tough. Those workers were no longer welcome through official channels but we still wanted their low cost labor
So we got to today's situation where we need their labor but are unwilling to accept them legally

I don't recall anyone saying we wouldn't accept them legally. As usual, you lie. The candidates I heard stated that they could go back and get in line just like others are now in line awaiting their turn LEGALLY.

 

[rightwinger]

Let's see

Your way, spend hundreds of billions rounding up people and building a wall
My way, issue a piece of paper allowing them to work

I like my way better

Could you please explain to us why dem/libs empathize and sympathize with criminals?

then explain why you dem/libs don't want the laws of the USA enforced.

Do you understand the meaning of the word "illegal" ?

anxiously awaiting your answer

Can you explain why conservatives masterbate over a deportation fantasy?

enforcing laws is not a fantasy, its what countries do. Try to enter and stay in mexico illegally. or Russia, or the UK, or France, or Iran. Every other country in the world enforces its borders and makes people enter legally.

In other words, WTF is wrong with you?

In other words, we already have 11 million people living here, working here and raising families here

Pandering to far right fantasies that it is possible to deport 11 million people and build a magic fence to make them stay is not a solution

Providing work permits and having them work on the books and paying taxes is a solution

These ILLEGALS came here with the expectation that one day they might be deported. They knew full well they were breaking our laws. There is no excuse.

No way are you deporting 11 million people regardless of what members of the GOP clown car tells you

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Donald Trump took his build-a-wall approach to immigration one step further last night when he vowed that, if elected president, he'd deport 11 million undocumented immigrants. Of course the DemocRAT/Socialist/BigBusiness RINO's, Kasick, and the "Yebster' had to jump in with Kasick, saying, "It's a silly argument. It's not an adult argument. We all know you can't pick them up and ship them back across the border."

To which Trump quoted that IKE, sent back over 1.5 million in under a year!

With what we see going on in Europe with UNLIMITED FOREIGNERS coming into a country DEMANDING of those government to TAKE CARE OF ME, the CRIME RATE RISING FROM THESE SCUM, and rioting destroying property, and looting, do we have to look forward to the same sort of things, as we RUN OUT of money to do what the subversives want to do, FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE America?.... "It's not embracing American values," Yeb Bush said. "And it would tear communities apart and it would send a signal that we're not the kind of country I know America is."......Is SUICIDE an American principle? Trump, and a few others have it right, we don't want them, we don't need them, and LET THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT take care of them!

Ike was right....
Trump is right....
Bush/Rubio/Kasich are wrong....

masses of dependent immigrants coming here are not going to change their cultures....they will change American culture to become what they are used to....this means we are just setting ourselves up for major anti-american societal problems in the future....

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Could you please explain to us why dem/libs empathize and sympathize with criminals?

then explain why you dem/libs don't want the laws of the USA enforced.

Do you understand the meaning of the word "illegal" ?

anxiously awaiting your answer

Can you explain why conservatives masterbate over a deportation fantasy?

enforcing laws is not a fantasy, its what countries do. Try to enter and stay in mexico illegally. or Russia, or the UK, or France, or Iran. Every other country in the world enforces its borders and makes people enter legally.

In other words, WTF is wrong with you?

In other words, we already have 11 million people living here, working here and raising families here

Pandering to far right fantasies that it is possible to deport 11 million people and build a magic fence to make them stay is not a solution

Providing work permits and having them work on the books and paying taxes is a solution

These ILLEGALS came here with the expectation that one day they might be deported. They knew full well they were breaking our laws. There is no excuse.

No way are you deporting 11 million people regardless of what members of the GOP clown car tells you

but we can make a huge dent in that number.......the rest can live in the 'shadows' in fear of being deported at any time for breaking the law....

 

[the_human_being]

Could you please explain to us why dem/libs empathize and sympathize with criminals?

then explain why you dem/libs don't want the laws of the USA enforced.

Do you understand the meaning of the word "illegal" ?

anxiously awaiting your answer

Can you explain why conservatives masterbate over a deportation fantasy?

enforcing laws is not a fantasy, its what countries do. Try to enter and stay in mexico illegally. or Russia, or the UK, or France, or Iran. Every other country in the world enforces its borders and makes people enter legally.

In other words, WTF is wrong with you?

In other words, we already have 11 million people living here, working here and raising families here

Pandering to far right fantasies that it is possible to deport 11 million people and build a magic fence to make them stay is not a solution

Providing work permits and having them work on the books and paying taxes is a solution

These ILLEGALS came here with the expectation that one day they might be deported. They knew full well they were breaking our laws. There is no excuse.

No way are you deporting 11 million people regardless of what members of the GOP clown car tells you

Haven't you been slapped silly enough already? Now you're just repeating yourself. Why not just cut and paste?

 

[the_human_being]

We are in control of your television. We are in control of your video and your audio. We are in control of what you read. We will give you your marching orders and tell you what to think and say. We are in control of your mind, your thoughts. We are your Democrat Party.

 

[bodecea]

I like the idea

Rounding up and deporting 11 million people who do not want to be deported will take at least 500,000 new federal employees to investigate, capture, detain, process and deport

It will be great for the employment rate

Yep...and very cost effective...just like the drug-testing of welfare recipients....VERY cost effective.

 

[Indeependent]

I like the idea

Rounding up and deporting 11 million people who do not want to be deported will take at least 500,000 new federal employees to investigate, capture, detain, process and deport

It will be great for the employment rate

Yep...and very cost effective...just like the drug-testing of welfare recipients....VERY cost effective.

It creates jobs all the way through the Health Services Industry.
I wonder if it would cost more than maintaining 25,000 US troops a year in Saudi Arabia.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Ike was right....
Trump is right....
Bush/Rubio/Kasich are wrong....

masses of dependent immigrants coming here are not going to change their cultures....they will change American culture to become what they are used to....this means we are just setting ourselves up for major anti-american societal problems in the future....

Please define "American culture." This country has always been a hodgepodge of different cultures. Depending on what part of the country you're in determines what kind of views people have, what kind of music they listen to, what kind of food they eat, what kind of family and local traditions the have, how they talk, etc. It's different all over this country. There is no one American culture like you see in European countries, Asian countries, etc. Your argument is the same xenophobic fear mongering that has been used for 150 years to keep certain ethnic groups out of our nation. Irish were once the big bogeymen, then it was the Chinese, then it was Italians, then it was the Japanese, then it was the Russians, then it was the Japanese again, now it's Hispanics. When you say we need to control immigration to preserve American culture you mean we need to keep out anyone who isn't a WASP.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

They can GTFO of our country and support their families in mexico.
They're cowards and traitors to their own countries..Patriots stay and fix their country..cowards run away and hide...

That's easy talk for a keyboard warrior to say who's never stared death in the face by the drug cartel running your city.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

They can GTFO of our country and support their families in mexico.
They're cowards and traitors to their own countries..Patriots stay and fix their country..cowards run away and hide...

That's easy talk for a keyboard warrior to say who's never stared death in the face by the drug cartel running your city.

When was the last time you stared death in the face by drug cartels running your city?

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Ike was right....
Trump is right....
Bush/Rubio/Kasich are wrong....

masses of dependent immigrants coming here are not going to change their cultures....they will change American culture to become what they are used to....this means we are just setting ourselves up for major anti-american societal problems in the future....

Please define "American culture." This country has always been a hodgepodge of different cultures. Depending on what part of the country you're in determines what kind of views people have, what kind of music they listen to, what kind of food they eat, what kind of family and local traditions the have, how they talk, etc. It's different all over this country. There is no one American culture like you see in European countries, Asian countries, etc. Your argument is the same xenophobic fear mongering that has been used for 150 years to keep certain ethnic groups out of our nation. Irish were once the big bogeymen, then it was the Chinese, then it was Italians, then it was the Japanese, then it was the Russians, then it was the Japanese again, now it's Hispanics. When you say we need to control immigration to preserve American culture you mean we need to keep out anyone who isn't a WASP.

'American culture' as in free speech, limited government, personal responsibility, and a Judeo-Christian Enlightenment culture...those coming from Europe came from countries with some of of these factors....

but if you think imported Muslims or socialist dependent Mexicans/South Americans are going to easily assimilate into these principles you are dreaming.....why else do you think the marxist Democrats want to import them....?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Ike was right....
Trump is right....
Bush/Rubio/Kasich are wrong....

masses of dependent immigrants coming here are not going to change their cultures....they will change American culture to become what they are used to....this means we are just setting ourselves up for major anti-american societal problems in the future....

Please define "American culture." This country has always been a hodgepodge of different cultures. Depending on what part of the country you're in determines what kind of views people have, what kind of music they listen to, what kind of food they eat, what kind of family and local traditions the have, how they talk, etc. It's different all over this country. There is no one American culture like you see in European countries, Asian countries, etc. Your argument is the same xenophobic fear mongering that has been used for 150 years to keep certain ethnic groups out of our nation. Irish were once the big bogeymen, then it was the Chinese, then it was Italians, then it was the Japanese, then it was the Russians, then it was the Japanese again, now it's Hispanics. When you say we need to control immigration to preserve American culture you mean we need to keep out anyone who isn't a WASP.

'American culture' as in free speech, limited government, personal responsibility, and a Judeo-Christian Enlightenment culture...those coming from Europe came from countries with some of of these factors....

but if you think imported Muslims or socialist dependent Mexicans/South Americans are going to easily assimilate into these principles you are dreaming.....why else do you think the marxist Democrats want to import them....?

Mexico is not a socialist country and thank you for confirming exactly what I said. You have a problem with non-white people coming here. You all keep insisting this isn't a race based issue, but it always comes back to that when you're pressed hard enough.

 

[BluesLegend]

They can GTFO of our country and support their families in mexico.
They're cowards and traitors to their own countries..Patriots stay and fix their country..cowards run away and hide...

That's easy talk for a keyboard warrior to say who's never stared death in the face by the drug cartel running your city.

Are you saying we should take in a couple billion people from other countries all over the world who are living in similar and far worse situations than South America? Why are they so special, are not people in Africa just as worthy? Are you willing to sell your house and your possessions to free up money to care for them?

 

[ShootSpeeders]

No way are you deporting 11 million people regardless of what members of the GOP clown car tells you

For the ten millionth time, we don't have to deport them and we don't have build any walls and Trump needs to stop saying we do. Just take away the freebies and imprison a few employers that hire illegals and all the illegals will leave and no more will come. THINK

 

[the_human_being]

They can GTFO of our country and support their families in mexico.
They're cowards and traitors to their own countries..Patriots stay and fix their country..cowards run away and hide...

That's easy talk for a keyboard warrior to say who's never stared death in the face by the drug cartel running your city.

When was the last time you stared death in the face by drug cartels running your city?

He may be from Detroit or Chicago.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Ike was right....
Trump is right....
Bush/Rubio/Kasich are wrong....

masses of dependent immigrants coming here are not going to change their cultures....they will change American culture to become what they are used to....this means we are just setting ourselves up for major anti-american societal problems in the future....

Please define "American culture." This country has always been a hodgepodge of different cultures. Depending on what part of the country you're in determines what kind of views people have, what kind of music they listen to, what kind of food they eat, what kind of family and local traditions the have, how they talk, etc. It's different all over this country. There is no one American culture like you see in European countries, Asian countries, etc. Your argument is the same xenophobic fear mongering that has been used for 150 years to keep certain ethnic groups out of our nation. Irish were once the big bogeymen, then it was the Chinese, then it was Italians, then it was the Japanese, then it was the Russians, then it was the Japanese again, now it's Hispanics. When you say we need to control immigration to preserve American culture you mean we need to keep out anyone who isn't a WASP.

'American culture' as in free speech, limited government, personal responsibility, and a Judeo-Christian Enlightenment culture...those coming from Europe came from countries with some of of these factors....

but if you think imported Muslims or socialist dependent Mexicans/South Americans are going to easily assimilate into these principles you are dreaming.....why else do you think the marxist Democrats want to import them....?

Mexico is not a socialist country and thank you for confirming exactly what I said. You have a problem with non-white people coming here. You all keep insisting this isn't a race based issue, but it always comes back to that when you're pressed hard enough.

that's a delusional assumption on your part....i don't have a problem with non-white people coming here if they actually assimilate into our American culture....and don't come here for the handouts....

fyi Mexico has three main political parties....PRD, PRI, PAN.......and two of them are affiliated with Socialist International.....

 

[Wry Catcher]

Donald Trump took his build-a-wall approach to immigration one step further last night when he vowed that, if elected president, he'd deport 11 million undocumented immigrants. Of course the DemocRAT/Socialist/BigBusiness RINO's, Kasick, and the "Yebster' had to jump in with Kasick, saying, "It's a silly argument. It's not an adult argument. We all know you can't pick them up and ship them back across the border."

To which Trump quoted that IKE, sent back over 1.5 million in under a year!

With what we see going on in Europe with UNLIMITED FOREIGNERS coming into a country DEMANDING of those government to TAKE CARE OF ME, the CRIME RATE RISING FROM THESE SCUM, and rioting destroying property, and looting, do we have to look forward to the same sort of things, as we RUN OUT of money to do what the subversives want to do, FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE America?.... "It's not embracing American values," Yeb Bush said. "And it would tear communities apart and it would send a signal that we're not the kind of country I know America is."......Is SUICIDE an American principle? Trump, and a few others have it right, we don't want them, we don't need them, and LET THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT take care of them!

The 11 million or so will likely be dumped on local criminal justice systems; local courts, local prosecutors, local public defenders, local investigators, local jails, local health services and local taxpayers.

Trump and the rest of the clowns claim to be fiscally conservative, and yet prove to be fiscally irresponsible.

Then, while detained in local jails, within 48 hours they need to be charged, so more deputy US Attorney's will need to be hired, many Administrative Law Judges will need to be hired, more US Deputy Marshall's will need to be hired and Congress will need to allocate the funds to do so, plus provide funding to provide to local governments to recover the cost of food, lodging and medical care for the detainees.

One those funds have been spent, and the detainee is ordered detained, planes, trains and buses, with US Deputy Marshall's riding along need to be used and paid for to take the detainee to a country which will take them.

The only real question I have is this: How can anyone be so stupid as to support such an untenable task?

Realistic, intelligent people know it's not untenable and know that the one who has shown themselves to be stupid are those who agree with you.

You did not (and I suppose can not) refute my post. Thus, you default to calling me stupid.

Suppose you explain to all how 11 million people can be legally detained? I suppose you've read the Bill of Rights, if not, I suggest you do so before responding on this issue again.

 

[leftwinger]

My way, issue a piece of paper allowing them to work

That is what a lot of them will probably end up. But you and your kind were not even discussing THAT before Trump started saying what WE are thinking.


First border security, then the wall, then deport all in JAIL first, then we go phase 2. What so hard?