A defining moment last night..."Deport ALL ILLEGALS!"

[hunarcy]

Donald Trump took his build-a-wall approach to immigration one step further last night when he vowed that, if elected president, he'd deport 11 million undocumented immigrants. Of course the DemocRAT/Socialist/BigBusiness RINO's, Kasick, and the "Yebster' had to jump in with Kasick, saying, "It's a silly argument. It's not an adult argument. We all know you can't pick them up and ship them back across the border."

To which Trump quoted that IKE, sent back over 1.5 million in under a year!

With what we see going on in Europe with UNLIMITED FOREIGNERS coming into a country DEMANDING of those government to TAKE CARE OF ME, the CRIME RATE RISING FROM THESE SCUM, and rioting destroying property, and looting, do we have to look forward to the same sort of things, as we RUN OUT of money to do what the subversives want to do, FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE America?.... "It's not embracing American values," Yeb Bush said. "And it would tear communities apart and it would send a signal that we're not the kind of country I know America is."......Is SUICIDE an American principle? Trump, and a few others have it right, we don't want them, we don't need them, and LET THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT take care of them!

The 11 million or so will likely be dumped on local criminal justice systems; local courts, local prosecutors, local public defenders, local investigators, local jails, local health services and local taxpayers.

Trump and the rest of the clowns claim to be fiscally conservative, and yet prove to be fiscally irresponsible.

Then, while detained in local jails, within 48 hours they need to be charged, so more deputy US Attorney's will need to be hired, many Administrative Law Judges will need to be hired, more US Deputy Marshall's will need to be hired and Congress will need to allocate the funds to do so, plus provide funding to provide to local governments to recover the cost of food, lodging and medical care for the detainees.

One those funds have been spent, and the detainee is ordered detained, planes, trains and buses, with US Deputy Marshall's riding along need to be used and paid for to take the detainee to a country which will take them.

The only real question I have is this: How can anyone be so stupid as to support such an untenable task?

Realistic, intelligent people know it's not untenable and know that the one who has shown themselves to be stupid are those who agree with you.

 

[hunarcy]

They are illegal because they lack a piece of paper. Give them the piece of paper that lets them work legally and allow them to go back to their families when they feel like it

Fuck that!!
They send their money to mexico when it should be Americans making and spending the money here in America.

Let's see

Your way, spend hundreds of billions rounding up people and building a wall
My way, issue a piece of paper allowing them to work

I like my way better

Could you please explain to us why dem/libs empathize and sympathize with criminals?

then explain why you dem/libs don't want the laws of the USA enforced.

Do you understand the meaning of the word "illegal" ?

anxiously awaiting your answer

Can you explain why conservatives masterbate over a deportation fantasy?

Look at the communist jump from one stupid statement/ question to another.. You have no argument boy.. Sit down and shut the hell up.. You and your anti-American President have screwed this country royally.. that's all about to change.

You really shouldn't call rightwinger a communist because they will find it insulting that you lumped him in with them. He's just a left leaning troll.

 

[Timmy]

They deported LEGAL immigrants and citizens during the depression .

What will we do with all the families we split apart ? Put them on welfare ?

 

[Toro]

My industry is flooded with illegals. Hardly shitty paying jobs. Seems you are stuck on stereotypes

Oh, so you disagree with Vagtard when he says they're all here for the fee shit.

Good to know.

 

[BluesLegend]

Kasich was the only being realistic about the immigration issue

I found Kasich views on illegals offensive and dishonest. This is not an "immigration" issue this is about illegals sneaking across our borders illegally, then breaking all manner of our laws once they get here. It costs us billions of dollars. They are a net loss to our economy. They traffic drugs into our country destroying our kids. They commit tax fraud on a massive scale, its over $4 billion a year. They flood our emergency rooms, overwhelm our education system, half of them are on some form of public assistance. The crime they commit is insane, we have gone to war with countries that have killed fewer American citizens than illegals have. Did Kasich mention any of this? No of course not.

Do you know any illegal immigrants?

I think not. I know and have worked with many over the years. Like all people they come in every flavor. The vast majority are like you, they want to work and provide for their families. There is nothing about brown skin that makes one a criminal.

By the way, I'm not in favor of illegal immigration, it drives down the wage base and hurts the middle class. But, I also don't hate those who are only seeking to better their lives.

There's no such thing as an illegal immigrant, immigrants obey our laws and come here legally. These people have no respect for our country, our laws, or our citizens.

 

[rightwinger]

They are illegal because they lack a piece of paper. Give them the piece of paper that lets them work legally and allow them to go back to their families when they feel like it

Fuck that!!
They send their money to mexico when it should be Americans making and spending the money here in America.

Let's see

Your way, spend hundreds of billions rounding up people and building a wall
My way, issue a piece of paper allowing them to work

I like my way better

Could you please explain to us why dem/libs empathize and sympathize with criminals?

then explain why you dem/libs don't want the laws of the USA enforced.

Do you understand the meaning of the word "illegal" ?

anxiously awaiting your answer

Can you explain why conservatives masterbate over a deportation fantasy?

enforcing laws is not a fantasy, its what countries do. Try to enter and stay in mexico illegally. or Russia, or the UK, or France, or Iran. Every other country in the world enforces its borders and makes people enter legally.

In other words, WTF is wrong with you?

In other words, we already have 11 million people living here, working here and raising families here

Pandering to far right fantasies that it is possible to deport 11 million people and build a magic fence to make them stay is not a solution

Providing work permits and having them work on the books and paying taxes is a solution

 

[BluesLegend]

Kasich was the only being realistic about the immigration issue

I found Kasich views on illegals offensive and dishonest. This is not an "immigration" issue this is about illegals sneaking across our borders illegally, then breaking all manner of our laws once they get here. It costs us billions of dollars. They are a net loss to our economy. They traffic drugs into our country destroying our kids. They commit tax fraud on a massive scale, its over $4 billion a year. They flood our emergency rooms, overwhelm our education system, half of them are on some form of public assistance. The crime they commit is insane, we have gone to war with countries that have killed fewer American citizens than illegals have. Did Kasich mention any of this? No of course not.

Do you know any illegal immigrants?

I think not. I know and have worked with many over the years. Like all people they come in every flavor. The vast majority are like you, they want to work and provide for their families. There is nothing about brown skin that makes one a criminal.

By the way, I'm not in favor of illegal immigration, it drives down the wage base and hurts the middle class. But, I also don't hate those who are only seeking to better their lives.

They are illegal because they lack a piece of paper. Give them the piece of paper that lets them work legally and allow them to go back to their families when they feel like it

^^^ ignorant or a lie. The vast majority of illegals do not meet the requirements to immigrate to the USA legally, their application would be rejected.

 

[BluesLegend]

Kasich was the only being realistic about the immigration issue

I found Kasich views on illegals offensive and dishonest. This is not an "immigration" issue this is about illegals sneaking across our borders illegally, then breaking all manner of our laws once they get here. It costs us billions of dollars. They are a net loss to our economy. They traffic drugs into our country destroying our kids. They commit tax fraud on a massive scale, its over $4 billion a year. They flood our emergency rooms, overwhelm our education system, half of them are on some form of public assistance. The crime they commit is insane, we have gone to war with countries that have killed fewer American citizens than illegals have. Did Kasich mention any of this? No of course not.

Do you know any illegal immigrants?

I think not. I know and have worked with many over the years. Like all people they come in every flavor. The vast majority are like you, they want to work and provide for their families. There is nothing about brown skin that makes one a criminal.

By the way, I'm not in favor of illegal immigration, it drives down the wage base and hurts the middle class. But, I also don't hate those who are only seeking to better their lives.

They are illegal because they lack a piece of paper. Give them the piece of paper that lets them work legally and allow them to go back to their families when they feel like it

Fuck that!!
They send their money to mexico when it should be Americans making and spending the money here in America.

Let's see

Your way, spend hundreds of billions rounding up people and building a wall
My way, issue a piece of paper allowing them to work

I like my way better

We already spend tons of money on illegals, billions, they are a net loss to our economy stupid.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

My industry is flooded with illegals. Hardly shitty paying jobs. Seems you are stuck on stereotypes

Oh, so you disagree with Vagtard when he says they're all here for the fee shit.

Good to know.

Some likely are but most are here for the opportunities not available in their homeland. I don't blame them, I would come too. Doesn't mean we have to allow it.

 

[rightwinger]

Kasich was the only being realistic about the immigration issue

I found Kasich views on illegals offensive and dishonest. This is not an "immigration" issue this is about illegals sneaking across our borders illegally, then breaking all manner of our laws once they get here. It costs us billions of dollars. They are a net loss to our economy. They traffic drugs into our country destroying our kids. They commit tax fraud on a massive scale, its over $4 billion a year. They flood our emergency rooms, overwhelm our education system, half of them are on some form of public assistance. The crime they commit is insane, we have gone to war with countries that have killed fewer American citizens than illegals have. Did Kasich mention any of this? No of course not.

Do you know any illegal immigrants?

I think not. I know and have worked with many over the years. Like all people they come in every flavor. The vast majority are like you, they want to work and provide for their families. There is nothing about brown skin that makes one a criminal.

By the way, I'm not in favor of illegal immigration, it drives down the wage base and hurts the middle class. But, I also don't hate those who are only seeking to better their lives.

They are illegal because they lack a piece of paper. Give them the piece of paper that lets them work legally and allow them to go back to their families when they feel like it

^^^ ignorant or a lie. The vast majority of illegals do not meet the requirements to immigrate to the USA legally, their application would be rejected.

Very true

Mexicans never used to have a problem coming here, working and then returning home. Then we decided to get tough. Those workers were no longer welcome through official channels but we still wanted their low cost labor
So we got to today's situation where we need their labor but are unwilling to accept them legally

 

[rightwinger]

I found Kasich views on illegals offensive and dishonest. This is not an "immigration" issue this is about illegals sneaking across our borders illegally, then breaking all manner of our laws once they get here. It costs us billions of dollars. They are a net loss to our economy. They traffic drugs into our country destroying our kids. They commit tax fraud on a massive scale, its over $4 billion a year. They flood our emergency rooms, overwhelm our education system, half of them are on some form of public assistance. The crime they commit is insane, we have gone to war with countries that have killed fewer American citizens than illegals have. Did Kasich mention any of this? No of course not.

Do you know any illegal immigrants?

I think not. I know and have worked with many over the years. Like all people they come in every flavor. The vast majority are like you, they want to work and provide for their families. There is nothing about brown skin that makes one a criminal.

By the way, I'm not in favor of illegal immigration, it drives down the wage base and hurts the middle class. But, I also don't hate those who are only seeking to better their lives.

They are illegal because they lack a piece of paper. Give them the piece of paper that lets them work legally and allow them to go back to their families when they feel like it

Fuck that!!
They send their money to mexico when it should be Americans making and spending the money here in America.

Let's see

Your way, spend hundreds of billions rounding up people and building a wall
My way, issue a piece of paper allowing them to work

I like my way better

We already spend tons of money on illegals, billions, they are a net loss to our economy stupid.

We are making billions off of their off the books labor

 

[BluesLegend]

Do you know any illegal immigrants?

I think not. I know and have worked with many over the years. Like all people they come in every flavor. The vast majority are like you, they want to work and provide for their families. There is nothing about brown skin that makes one a criminal.

By the way, I'm not in favor of illegal immigration, it drives down the wage base and hurts the middle class. But, I also don't hate those who are only seeking to better their lives.

They are illegal because they lack a piece of paper. Give them the piece of paper that lets them work legally and allow them to go back to their families when they feel like it

Fuck that!!
They send their money to mexico when it should be Americans making and spending the money here in America.

Let's see

Your way, spend hundreds of billions rounding up people and building a wall
My way, issue a piece of paper allowing them to work

I like my way better

We already spend tons of money on illegals, billions, they are a net loss to our economy stupid.

We are making billions off of their off the books labor

No we are not, why do you continuously make up stuff that's not true? Obama is a cross dressing homo, see its easy to make stuff up but you can't really have a discussion with someone who does that.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

Deportation isn't the answer.
We have to go after the things they come here for. Society, jobs, shelter. Cut it all off. They will go back willingly.

I feel that way too and i think most people do. They come because we give them stuff. Cut that off and they'll leave on their own. No more welfare and free health care and free school and drivers licenses. And no more jobs. They'll leave.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

We already spend tons of money on illegals, billions, they are a net loss to our economy stupid.

It's hundreds of billions. Look at schooling. 10 million illegal kids in our schools at $15,000 per kid per year and you have $150 billion right there. Every year!!

 

[ShootSpeeders]

Some likely are but most are here for the opportunities not available in their homeland. I don't blame them, I would come too. Doesn't mean we have to allow it.

Of course that's true. Hell - i'd be robbing banks if laws against bank robbing were not enforced and if the govt gave me free stuff for doing it.

 

[Toro]

My industry is flooded with illegals. Hardly shitty paying jobs. Seems you are stuck on stereotypes

Oh, so you disagree with Vagtard when he says they're all here for the fee shit.

Good to know.

Some likely are but most are here for the opportunities not available in their homeland. I don't blame them, I would come too. Doesn't mean we have to allow it.

Different argument.

 

[the_human_being]

Donald Trump took his build-a-wall approach to immigration one step further last night when he vowed that, if elected president, he'd deport 11 million undocumented immigrants. Of course the DemocRAT/Socialist/BigBusiness RINO's, Kasick, and the "Yebster' had to jump in with Kasick, saying, "It's a silly argument. It's not an adult argument. We all know you can't pick them up and ship them back across the border."

To which Trump quoted that IKE, sent back over 1.5 million in under a year!

With what we see going on in Europe with UNLIMITED FOREIGNERS coming into a country DEMANDING of those government to TAKE CARE OF ME, the CRIME RATE RISING FROM THESE SCUM, and rioting destroying property, and looting, do we have to look forward to the same sort of things, as we RUN OUT of money to do what the subversives want to do, FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE America?.... "It's not embracing American values," Yeb Bush said. "And it would tear communities apart and it would send a signal that we're not the kind of country I know America is."......Is SUICIDE an American principle? Trump, and a few others have it right, we don't want them, we don't need them, and LET THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT take care of them!

The 11 million or so will likely be dumped on local criminal justice systems; local courts, local prosecutors, local public defenders, local investigators, local jails, local health services and local taxpayers.

Trump and the rest of the clowns claim to be fiscally conservative, and yet prove to be fiscally irresponsible.

Then, while detained in local jails, within 48 hours they need to be charged, so more deputy US Attorney's will need to be hired, many Administrative Law Judges will need to be hired, more US Deputy Marshall's will need to be hired and Congress will need to allocate the funds to do so, plus provide funding to provide to local governments to recover the cost of food, lodging and medical care for the detainees.

One those funds have been spent, and the detainee is ordered detained, planes, trains and buses, with US Deputy Marshall's riding along need to be used and paid for to take the detainee to a country which will take them.

The only real question I have is this: How can anyone be so stupid as to support such an untenable task?

It's hardly untenable. This nation took over the German government and the Japanese government. We can handle it.

how many decades ago ? any idea what century this is ?

typical RW'r ... writing checks that we can't even pay the interest much less the check ... sheeeeesh

Pull our troops back from your War God Obama's war in Syria. Station them along the Southern Border. Allow them to do something worthwhile.
We don't seem to have any problem writing checks to prop up countries that hate us.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

Mexicans never used to have a problem coming here, working and then returning home. Then we decided to get tough. Those workers were no longer welcome through official channels but we still wanted their low cost labor
So we got to today's situation where we need their labor but are unwilling to accept them legally

I too remember when mexicans used to just come here for summer work and then leave. What changed things is the 1980s when we started giving illegals free health care and free k-12 for their kids. That's when they decided to make this home.

 

[the_human_being]

Fuck that!!
They send their money to mexico when it should be Americans making and spending the money here in America.

Let's see

Your way, spend hundreds of billions rounding up people and building a wall
My way, issue a piece of paper allowing them to work

I like my way better

Could you please explain to us why dem/libs empathize and sympathize with criminals?

then explain why you dem/libs don't want the laws of the USA enforced.

Do you understand the meaning of the word "illegal" ?

anxiously awaiting your answer

Can you explain why conservatives masterbate over a deportation fantasy?

enforcing laws is not a fantasy, its what countries do. Try to enter and stay in mexico illegally. or Russia, or the UK, or France, or Iran. Every other country in the world enforces its borders and makes people enter legally.

In other words, WTF is wrong with you?

In other words, we already have 11 million people living here, working here and raising families here

Pandering to far right fantasies that it is possible to deport 11 million people and build a magic fence to make them stay is not a solution

Providing work permits and having them work on the books and paying taxes is a solution

These ILLEGALS came here with the expectation that one day they might be deported. They knew full well they were breaking our laws. There is no excuse.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

My industry is flooded with illegals. Hardly shitty paying jobs. Seems you are stuck on stereotypes

Oh, so you disagree with Vagtard when he says they're all here for the fee shit.

Good to know.

Some likely are but most are here for the opportunities not available in their homeland. I don't blame them, I would come too. Doesn't mean we have to allow it.

Different argument.

Not really. The end result for either is a burden on our system & jobs