A defining moment last night..."Deport ALL ILLEGALS!"

[Rotagilla]

My industry is flooded with illegals. Hardly shitty paying jobs. Seems you are stuck on stereotypes

Oh, so you disagree with Vagtard when he says they're all here for the fee shit.

Good to know.

Some likely are but most are here for the opportunities not available in their homeland. I don't blame them, I would come too. Doesn't mean we have to allow it.

Different argument.

Use all the semantic distortion you want. Parse words, bandy rhetoric all you want......it doesn't matter
The point is; They're going back.

 

[rightwinger]

Obama is the single most responsible for the spread of radical Islam. When Obama declared the Iraq war over and pulled our troops out, ISIS overran Iraq. When Clinton destroyed Libya under Obama's watch, Libya became an ISIS stronghold. He then proceeded to throw ally Israel under the bus by signing off on the most ridiculous deal in history - the Iran Nuclear Deal - freeing up billions of dollars in frozen Iranian assets and lifting sanctions against the terrorist regime. Next the despot President set his sights on overthrowing Syria's Assad. Obama dropped tons of weapons into Syria that were picked up by persons even our own military generals aren't sure of. Assad called in its allies Russia and Iran to shore up his hold on the country. Now the blood-thirsty Obama is trying to provoke a confrontation between US, Russian, and Iranian troops. What a train wreck Obama is.

Very true

Radical Islam never existed before Obama

 

[Rotagilla]

Ike was right....
Trump is right....
Bush/Rubio/Kasich are wrong....

masses of dependent immigrants coming here are not going to change their cultures....they will change American culture to become what they are used to....this means we are just setting ourselves up for major anti-american societal problems in the future....

Please define "American culture." This country has always been a hodgepodge of different cultures. Depending on what part of the country you're in determines what kind of views people have, what kind of music they listen to, what kind of food they eat, what kind of family and local traditions the have, how they talk, etc. It's different all over this country. There is no one American culture like you see in European countries, Asian countries, etc. Your argument is the same xenophobic fear mongering that has been used for 150 years to keep certain ethnic groups out of our nation. Irish were once the big bogeymen, then it was the Chinese, then it was Italians, then it was the Japanese, then it was the Russians, then it was the Japanese again, now it's Hispanics. When you say we need to control immigration to preserve American culture you mean we need to keep out anyone who isn't a WASP.

whatever....all those nationalities and races you just mentioned came here LEGALLY...

We're talking about ILLEGAL invaders. Why are you against enforcing our laws?
They're going back, ace.

 

[Rotagilla]

They can GTFO of our country and support their families in mexico.
They're cowards and traitors to their own countries..Patriots stay and fix their country..cowards run away and hide...

That's easy talk for a keyboard warrior to say who's never stared death in the face by the drug cartel running your city.

Don't give a flip about any excuses, justifications or rationalizations.
They're here illegally. They're going back..and then they can fix their country's problems.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

They can GTFO of our country and support their families in mexico.
They're cowards and traitors to their own countries..Patriots stay and fix their country..cowards run away and hide...

That's easy talk for a keyboard warrior to say who's never stared death in the face by the drug cartel running your city.

Don't give a flip about any excuses, justifications or rationalizations.
They're here illegally. They're going back..and then they can fix their country's problems.

Then until you've walked a mile in their shoes don't call them cowards. I have no doubt if drug cartels or ISIS was parading through your town with machine guns you'd piss your pants and run away just like the coward you accuse them of being. Everybody is so tough when talking on the Internet.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Donald Trump took his build-a-wall approach to immigration one step further last night when he vowed that, if elected president, he'd deport 11 million undocumented immigrants. Of course the DemocRAT/Socialist/BigBusiness RINO's, Kasick, and the "Yebster' had to jump in with Kasick, saying, "It's a silly argument. It's not an adult argument. We all know you can't pick them up and ship them back across the border."

To which Trump quoted that IKE, sent back over 1.5 million in under a year!

With what we see going on in Europe with UNLIMITED FOREIGNERS coming into a country DEMANDING of those government to TAKE CARE OF ME, the CRIME RATE RISING FROM THESE SCUM, and rioting destroying property, and looting, do we have to look forward to the same sort of things, as we RUN OUT of money to do what the subversives want to do, FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE America?.... "It's not embracing American values," Yeb Bush said. "And it would tear communities apart and it would send a signal that we're not the kind of country I know America is."......Is SUICIDE an American principle? Trump, and a few others have it right, we don't want them, we don't need them, and LET THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT take care of them!

The 11 million or so will likely be dumped on local criminal justice systems; local courts, local prosecutors, local public defenders, local investigators, local jails, local health services and local taxpayers.

Trump and the rest of the clowns claim to be fiscally conservative, and yet prove to be fiscally irresponsible.

Then, while detained in local jails, within 48 hours they need to be charged, so more deputy US Attorney's will need to be hired, many Administrative Law Judges will need to be hired, more US Deputy Marshall's will need to be hired and Congress will need to allocate the funds to do so, plus provide funding to provide to local governments to recover the cost of food, lodging and medical care for the detainees.

One those funds have been spent, and the detainee is ordered detained, planes, trains and buses, with US Deputy Marshall's riding along need to be used and paid for to take the detainee to a country which will take them.

The only real question I have is this: How can anyone be so stupid as to support such an untenable task?

It's hardly untenable. This nation took over the German government and the Japanese government. We can handle it.

how many decades ago ? any idea what century this is ?

typical RW'r ... writing checks that we can't even pay the interest much less the check ... sheeeeesh

oh..now you want to talk about the runaway deficit your party has enabled? Suddenly cost is important to the socialists?..LMFAO..you guys are comical...

A defining decade:

Government - Historical Debt Outstanding - Annual 2000 - 2015

US Federal Deficit Definition - plus charts and analysis

Now, apply critical thinking skill along with the issues facing the US since 9/11/2001

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Donald Trump took his build-a-wall approach to immigration one step further last night when he vowed that, if elected president, he'd deport 11 million undocumented immigrants. Of course the DemocRAT/Socialist/BigBusiness RINO's, Kasick, and the "Yebster' had to jump in with Kasick, saying, "It's a silly argument. It's not an adult argument. We all know you can't pick them up and ship them back across the border."

To which Trump quoted that IKE, sent back over 1.5 million in under a year!

With what we see going on in Europe with UNLIMITED FOREIGNERS coming into a country DEMANDING of those government to TAKE CARE OF ME, the CRIME RATE RISING FROM THESE SCUM, and rioting destroying property, and looting, do we have to look forward to the same sort of things, as we RUN OUT of money to do what the subversives want to do, FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE America?.... "It's not embracing American values," Yeb Bush said. "And it would tear communities apart and it would send a signal that we're not the kind of country I know America is."......Is SUICIDE an American principle? Trump, and a few others have it right, we don't want them, we don't need them, and LET THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT take care of them!

US ag business would collapse if you deported the illegals. Not even joking.

 

[guno]

Obama is the single most responsible for the spread of radical Islam. When Obama declared the Iraq war over and pulled our troops out, ISIS overran Iraq. When Clinton destroyed Libya under Obama's watch, Libya became an ISIS stronghold. He then proceeded to throw ally Israel under the bus by signing off on the most ridiculous deal in history - the Iran Nuclear Deal - freeing up billions of dollars in frozen Iranian assets and lifting sanctions against the terrorist regime. Next the despot President set his sights on overthrowing Syria's Assad. Obama dropped tons of weapons into Syria that were picked up by persons even our own military generals aren't sure of. Assad called in its allies Russia and Iran to shore up his hold on the country. Now the blood-thirsty Obama is trying to provoke a confrontation between US, Russian, and Iranian troops. What a train wreck Obama is.

Obama is the single most responsible for the spread of radical Islam.

 

[guno]

Wave Of Illegal Immigrants Gains Speed After NAFTA

Wave Of Illegal Immigrants Gains Speed After NAFTA


One of the largely overlooked aspects of the North American Free Trade Agreement is the fact that the failed trade pact has been the catalyst for the massive increase in illegal immigration over the past two decades or so.

An influx of highly subsidized corn flooding the Mexican market has displaced millions of rural farmers, according to McClatchy Newspapers. Prior to the implementation of NAFTA, Mexican officials claimed that factory jobs would fill the void left by disappearing work on family farms.

Mexican officials had promised that NAFTA would result in the “export of goods, not people.” That, however, has turned out to be far from reality.

Since NAFTA was signed into law, illegal immigrants in the U.S. has increased to 12 million today from 3.9 million in 1993, accounting for an overall increase of over 300 percent. According to the Pew Hispanic Center, 57 percent of those entering the country illegally are from Mexico.

“The numbers of people displaced from family farming were much, much higher than the number of new wage jobs,” Jonathan Fox, an expert on rural Mexico at the University of California at Santa Cruz, told McClatchy Newspapers.

Those displaced workers are largely the result of U.S. corn exports to Mexico. Heavily subsidized American Agribusiness not only put hundreds of thousands of American family farms out of business, but also dumped billions of dollars worth of American agricultural products into the Mexican market, putting millions of peasant farmers out of business.

Between 1994 and 2001, the flood of cheap, subsidized American corn caused the price of the crop to fall 70 percent in Mexico. The drop in prices caused millions of farm jobs to disappear, with the numbers falling from 8.1 million in 1993 to 6.8 million in 2002.

Those out-of-work farmers make up the bulk of the illegal immigrants entering the U.S. each year. Unable to compete with their highly subsidized American competitors – $10 billion in 2000 alone – rural Mexican farmers have increasingly sought employment in the U.S.

 

[pismoe]

Hey Dummy.. they're ILLEGAL because they broke the f*cking law.. Don't thank me.

The law against not having a piece of paper

Hey Braindead, a piece of paper called a license to own a weapon, keeps felons from owning weapons.. Let's just say fuck it to all pieces of paper where illegality is concerned and consider it legal.. You're so damn ignorant it defies logic.. even your lame ass responses border Sesame Street garble.. GET LOST

Hey let's have a party and round up some Mexicans!

Better yet, let's help them clean up house and live a decent life in their own country.
We seem to do that for everyone else around the globe.

It is actually a good solution

Encouraging more production and more jobs in Mexico. But it pisses conservatives off

let the Mexicans build up their jobs and increase their production , ok with this Conservative 'Rightwinger' !!

 

[Slyhunter]

 

[ShootSpeeders]

US ag business would collapse if you deported the illegals. Not even joking.

And if we keep them here., our schools and hospitals and welfare system will collapse. THINK

 

[leftwinger]

Everybody is so tough when talking on the Internet.

Thats' not right or fair. "we" pay massive tax dollars for others to be tough for us. They won't allow us to get into the illegal issue anyways. You can't look sideways at pack outside Home Depot.

 

[leftwinger]

Donald Trump took his build-a-wall approach to immigration one step further last night when he vowed that, if elected president, he'd deport 11 million undocumented immigrants. Of course the DemocRAT/Socialist/BigBusiness RINO's, Kasick, and the "Yebster' had to jump in with Kasick, saying, "It's a silly argument. It's not an adult argument. We all know you can't pick them up and ship them back across the border."

To which Trump quoted that IKE, sent back over 1.5 million in under a year!

With what we see going on in Europe with UNLIMITED FOREIGNERS coming into a country DEMANDING of those government to TAKE CARE OF ME, the CRIME RATE RISING FROM THESE SCUM, and rioting destroying property, and looting, do we have to look forward to the same sort of things, as we RUN OUT of money to do what the subversives want to do, FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE America?.... "It's not embracing American values," Yeb Bush said. "And it would tear communities apart and it would send a signal that we're not the kind of country I know America is."......Is SUICIDE an American principle? Trump, and a few others have it right, we don't want them, we don't need them, and LET THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT take care of them!

US ag business would collapse if you deported the illegals. Not even joking.

Guest worker program. Or let the employers sponser what he needs/wants. This is not impossible. New ideas. New methods.

Is the USA the only major country on the planet who has created this Illegal issue at 10% population?

 

[leftwinger]

Donald Trump took his build-a-wall approach to immigration one step further last night when he vowed that, if elected president, he'd deport 11 million undocumented immigrants. Of course the DemocRAT/Socialist/BigBusiness RINO's, Kasick, and the "Yebster' had to jump in with Kasick, saying, "It's a silly argument. It's not an adult argument. We all know you can't pick them up and ship them back across the border."

To which Trump quoted that IKE, sent back over 1.5 million in under a year!

With what we see going on in Europe with UNLIMITED FOREIGNERS coming into a country DEMANDING of those government to TAKE CARE OF ME, the CRIME RATE RISING FROM THESE SCUM, and rioting destroying property, and looting, do we have to look forward to the same sort of things, as we RUN OUT of money to do what the subversives want to do, FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE America?.... "It's not embracing American values," Yeb Bush said. "And it would tear communities apart and it would send a signal that we're not the kind of country I know America is."......Is SUICIDE an American principle? Trump, and a few others have it right, we don't want them, we don't need them, and LET THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT take care of them!

US ag business would collapse if you deported the illegals. Not even joking.

Personally I would like some hard labor for prisoners. Maybe they want out of cell? work for release? They could be trained to work with the illegals. Maybe it crazy but it ain't working at $20T debt.

 

[leftwinger]

Wave Of Illegal Immigrants Gains Speed After NAFTA

Wave Of Illegal Immigrants Gains Speed After NAFTA


One of the largely overlooked aspects of the North American Free Trade Agreement is the fact that the failed trade pact has been the catalyst for the massive increase in illegal immigration over the past two decades or so.

An influx of highly subsidized corn flooding the Mexican market has displaced millions of rural farmers, according to McClatchy Newspapers. Prior to the implementation of NAFTA, Mexican officials claimed that factory jobs would fill the void left by disappearing work on family farms.

Mexican officials had promised that NAFTA would result in the “export of goods, not people.” That, however, has turned out to be far from reality.

Since NAFTA was signed into law, illegal immigrants in the U.S. has increased to 12 million today from 3.9 million in 1993, accounting for an overall increase of over 300 percent. According to the Pew Hispanic Center, 57 percent of those entering the country illegally are from Mexico.

“The numbers of people displaced from family farming were much, much higher than the number of new wage jobs,” Jonathan Fox, an expert on rural Mexico at the University of California at Santa Cruz, told McClatchy Newspapers.

Those displaced workers are largely the result of U.S. corn exports to Mexico. Heavily subsidized American Agribusiness not only put hundreds of thousands of American family farms out of business, but also dumped billions of dollars worth of American agricultural products into the Mexican market, putting millions of peasant farmers out of business.

Between 1994 and 2001, the flood of cheap, subsidized American corn caused the price of the crop to fall 70 percent in Mexico. The drop in prices caused millions of farm jobs to disappear, with the numbers falling from 8.1 million in 1993 to 6.8 million in 2002.

Those out-of-work farmers make up the bulk of the illegal immigrants entering the U.S. each year. Unable to compete with their highly subsidized American competitors – $10 billion in 2000 alone – rural Mexican farmers have increasingly sought employment in the U.S.

Corn? really. Grow something else? What the heck? Corn killed Mexico? Corn sent 20mil north?

 

[leftwinger]

too long. summarize it for the lazy.

 

[Desperado]

As far as immigration is concerned, even though it was not last night Bobby Jindal had the best line:
Let's be really honest about this: Immigration without assimilation is not immigration; it's an invasion,

 

[BluesLegend]

Are these really the 'immigrants' we want in the USA? Breaking News...relatives of Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro arrested for trying to smuggle 1,700 pounds of cocaine into the United States. They told the DEA they were acting in connection with the speaker of the national assembly and had diplomatic immunity.

 

[pismoe]

that's good info , do you have a link 'Blues' ??