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Israel is the project of the foreign World Zionist Organization. Israel was declared by the foreign Jewish Agency that was created in Zurich by the foreign World Zionist Organization.
Of the 37 people who signed Israel's declation of independence, only one was born in Palestine and he was the son of immigrants. They were all foreigners.
In the end, Tinmore, what is all this railing against history going to accomplish in the scheme of things? What do you predict the end results will be?
Israel is the project of the foreign World Zionist Organization. Israel was declared by the foreign Jewish Agency that was created in Zurich by the foreign World Zionist Organization.
Of the 37 people who signed Israel's declation of independence, only one was born in Palestine and he was the son of immigrants. They were all foreigners.
In the end, Tinmore, what is all this railing against history going to accomplish in the scheme of things? What do you predict the end results will be?
Israel is the project of the foreign World Zionist Organization. Israel was declared by the foreign Jewish Agency that was created in Zurich by the foreign World Zionist Organization.
Of the 37 people who signed Israel's declation of independence, only one was born in Palestine and he was the son of immigrants. They were all foreigners.
Earth's history.
Earth's history.
Like what?
(REFERENCEs LINKS)I'm pretty sure Rocco threw that statement in the garbage for you . Where did you ever see the word foreigners ?The right to sovereignty belongs to the natives.Hmmmm....
At no time have the Jews relinquished their right to sovereignty and that right cannot be taken by military force.
Now we're getting somewhere.
Israel was created by foreigners.
United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples said:Affirming that indigenous peoples are equal to all other peoples, while recognizing the right of all peoples to be different, to consider themselves different, and to be respected as such,
Bearing in mind that nothing in this Declaration may be used to deny any peoples their right to self-determination, exercised in conformity with international law.
RoccoR said:POINT #1: There is no reference to the limitation of the right to "self-determination" with respect to "foreigners" (xenophobia being a concept near universally opposed). In fact, the term "foreigners" is not used in the Covenant or the Charter.
ARTICLE 22.
To those colonies and territories which as a consequence of the late war have ceased to be under the sovereignty of the States which formerly governed them and which are inhabited by peoples not yet able to stand by themselves under the strenuous conditions of the modern world, there should be applied the principle that the well-being and development of such peoples form a sacred trust of civilisation and that securities for the performance of this trust should be embodied in this Covenant.
The best method of giving practical effect to this principle is that the tutelage of such peoples should be entrusted to advanced nations who by reason of their resources, their experience or their geographical position can best undertake this responsibility, and who are willing to accept it, and that this tutelage should be exercised by them as Mandatories on behalf of the League.
The character of the mandate must differ according to the stage of the development of the people, the geographical situation of the territory, its economic conditions and other similar circumstances.
Certain communities formerly belonging to the Turkish Empire have reached a stage of development where their existence as independent nations can be provisionally recognized subject to the rendering of administrative advice and assistance by a Mandatory until such time as they are able to stand alone. The wishes of these communities must be a principal consideration in the selection of the Mandatory.
Other peoples, especially those of Central Africa, are at such a stage that the Mandatory must be responsible for the administration of the territory under conditions which will guarantee freedom of conscience and religion, subject only to the maintenance of public order and morals, the prohibition of abuses such as the slave trade, the arms traffic and the liquor traffic, and the prevention of the establishment of fortifications or military and naval bases and of military training of the natives for other than police purposes and the defence of territory, and will also secure equal opportunities for the trade and commerce of other Members of the League.
There are territories, such as South-West Africa and certain of the South Pacific Islands, which, owing to the sparseness of their population, or their small size, or their remoteness from the centres of civilisation, or their geographical contiguity to the territory of the Mandatory, and other circumstances, can be best administered under the laws of the Mandatory as integral portions of its territory, subject to the safeguards above mentioned in the interests of the indigenous population.
ARTICLE 23.
Subject to and in accordance with the provisions of international conventions existing or hereafter to be agreed upon, the Members of the League:
(a) will endeavour to secure and maintain fair and humane conditions of labour for men, women, and children, both in their own countries and in all countries to which their commercial and industrial relations extend, and for that purpose will establish and maintain the necessary international organisations;
(b) undertake to secure just treatment of the native inhabitants of territories under their control;
Avalon Project - The Covenant of the League of Nations
The Jews of British Mandate Palestine were already Residents (Citizens) of the region labeled by the British as Palestine. They were immigrant-citizens, not foreigners, yes?"...Everything I see references people who already live in their own country. I don't see anyone mentioned who could possibly be considered foreigners."
The Jews of British Mandate Palestine were already Residents (Citizens) of the region labeled by the British as Palestine. They were immigrant-citizens, not foreigners, yes?"...Everything I see references people who already live in their own country. I don't see anyone mentioned who could possibly be considered foreigners."
Rocco...Iran did not create Hamas:
"With its takeover of Gaza after the 1967 war with Egypt, Israel hunted down secular Palestinian Liberation Organization factions but dropped the previous Egyptian rulers' harsh restrictions against Islamic activists.[8]
"In fact, Israel for many years tolerated and at times encouraged Islamic activists and groups as a counterweight to the secular nationalists of the PLO and its dominant faction, Fatah.[8][9]
"Among the activists benefited was Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, leader of the Muslim Brotherhood in Gaza, who had also formed the Islamist group Mujama al-Islamiya in 1973, a charity recognized by Israel in 1979. Israel allowed the organization to build mosques, clubs, schools, and a library in Gaza.[8][10]"
Blowback (intelligence) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Have you noticed how US funding for al-Qa'ida in the 1980s and Israel's creation of Hamas serve the interests of those who get rich from war and debt today?
RoccoR said:POINT #1: There is no reference to the limitation of the right to "self-determination" with respect to "foreigners" (xenophobia being a concept near universally opposed). In fact, the term "foreigners" is not used in the Covenant or the Charter.
OK but what were the terms used by the League of Nations Covenant?
ARTICLE 22.
To those colonies and territories which as a consequence of the late war have ceased to be under the sovereignty of the States which formerly governed them and which are inhabited by peoples not yet able to stand by themselves under the strenuous conditions of the modern world, there should be applied the principle that the well-being and development of such peoples form a sacred trust of civilisation and that securities for the performance of this trust should be embodied in this Covenant.
The best method of giving practical effect to this principle is that the tutelage of such peoples should be entrusted to advanced nations who by reason of their resources, their experience or their geographical position can best undertake this responsibility, and who are willing to accept it, and that this tutelage should be exercised by them as Mandatories on behalf of the League.
The character of the mandate must differ according to the stage of the development of the people, the geographical situation of the territory, its economic conditions and other similar circumstances.
Certain communities formerly belonging to the Turkish Empire have reached a stage of development where their existence as independent nations can be provisionally recognized subject to the rendering of administrative advice and assistance by a Mandatory until such time as they are able to stand alone. The wishes of these communities must be a principal consideration in the selection of the Mandatory.
Other peoples, especially those of Central Africa, are at such a stage that the Mandatory must be responsible for the administration of the territory under conditions which will guarantee freedom of conscience and religion, subject only to the maintenance of public order and morals, the prohibition of abuses such as the slave trade, the arms traffic and the liquor traffic, and the prevention of the establishment of fortifications or military and naval bases and of military training of the natives for other than police purposes and the defence of territory, and will also secure equal opportunities for the trade and commerce of other Members of the League.
There are territories, such as South-West Africa and certain of the South Pacific Islands, which, owing to the sparseness of their population, or their small size, or their remoteness from the centres of civilisation, or their geographical contiguity to the territory of the Mandatory, and other circumstances, can be best administered under the laws of the Mandatory as integral portions of its territory, subject to the safeguards above mentioned in the interests of the indigenous population.
ARTICLE 23.
Subject to and in accordance with the provisions of international conventions existing or hereafter to be agreed upon, the Members of the League:
(a) will endeavour to secure and maintain fair and humane conditions of labour for men, women, and children, both in their own countries and in all countries to which their commercial and industrial relations extend, and for that purpose will establish and maintain the necessary international organisations;
(b) undertake to secure just treatment of the native inhabitants of territories under their control;
Avalon Project - The Covenant of the League of Nations
Everything I see references people who already live in their own country.
I don't see anyone mentioned who could possibly be considered foreigners.
Yeah, but I don't think it sank-in properly...The Jews of British Mandate Palestine were already Residents (Citizens) of the region labeled by the British as Palestine. They were immigrant-citizens, not foreigners, yes?"...Everything I see references people who already live in their own country. I don't see anyone mentioned who could possibly be considered foreigners."
Rocco already threw Tinmore's 'foreigner' argument in the toilet
Yeah, but I don't think it sank-in properly...The Jews of British Mandate Palestine were already Residents (Citizens) of the region labeled by the British as Palestine. They were immigrant-citizens, not foreigners, yes?
Rocco already threw Tinmore's 'foreigner' argument in the toilet
Dear Colleague:You'd have a better chance of teaching nuclear physics to a cocker spaniel.
