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I don't know if it was obvious, but I think most of us who were following the campaign closely knew it was at least a possibility. Principle, fiscal responsibility, honor, respect, competence, values, integrity, etc. too often pale against the allure of free stuff and faith in flat out lies. I think most of us did have hope that the American people would regain their sanity, but after the early returns started coming in, I knew.
I don't think Romney was that bad a candidate--we would certainly be far better off already if he had been elected--but you are right that he just didn't make hearts go pitter pat like a Ronald Reagan did.
But let's get back to the prophetic concepts that seem to have come true day by day since Obama was first inaugerated.
AvgJoe objects to some of Thomas Sowell's observations. Let's look at one of those.
Does anybody here believe we got the Barack Obama that campaigned for the job in 2008? Or did we get something very different than that candidate?
Oh, don't get me wrong - I agree with you completely on Romney and our lost possibilities.
What I was just pointing out is the predicting obama win in an atmosphere of 2012 was not even close to being prophetic, just analysis.
After that fat bitch Crowley so shamelessly lied to cover her idol - it was obvious, they will drag him to the victory.
the win was mostly secured by LSM and their lies.
the lesson #1 from that campaign - forget fair.
If you spread the most blatant LIE on your opponent FIRST - that is what will get you the win.
The story about the guy duping dimocrap voters to vote for him - a TP conservative - is the best proof of the tactic.
Everything else will fail.
Perhaps. Unless sensible people can refocus on principles and values and start dealing with real substance as Sowell did in those essays, we will continue to too often vote the worst person into office. In my opinion the ONLY reason that Obama won in 2008 was because he was not opposed in getting his message out, however disingenuous it actually was. There simply were not enough Thomas Sowells digging for the truth out there.
Now when it was passed, we didn't. Obama broke his promise about legislation being public for a few days before he signed it.The LSM is so Dem no one knew what ACA even was...
No they are not those things. Those are made up labels in order for you to play the victim. Because otherwise you have nothing.And yet here CClaytonJones and Mammooth are wading right on in pretty much right on schedule. If the discussion is not interesting to you, could I suggest another forum?
If you don't like the subject matter, why don't you just unsubscribe?
If you are offended by the topic, please register a complaint with the Administration.
Otherwise, would you be please afford us the courtesy--you leftists are supposed to be the cultured, smart, intelligent, refined, respectful ones remember?--to continue a discusson on a topic that is interesting to some?
Thank you so much.
You do know, don't you, that much of Western civilization is based on the Bible?In all honesty, this thread is not intended to bash Obama, but is intended to be a heads up and encouragement to think about what those in government intend as opposed to what they say.
President Obama is watching his signature legislation crumble before his eyes. And he is a man of sufficient ego, he won't go down without a fight. So if you're paying attention, he is already trying to divert attention away from Obamacare and toward other initiatives that he hopes will save his legacy. Two issues at the top of his list are Immigration Reform and Environmental Controls.
How much more of our libertiy are the people willing to put on the line to save his legacy?
This ego is a rightwing meme and nothing more.
Apparently people are willing to put a lot on the line..obamacare evil...nsa wiretapping..meh I rather drink my coffee..that basically sums up this whole situation. So in closing fuck your bible, fuck your moronic theory, but enjoy the patting on the back by like minded people.
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And now put those same quotations back into their full context and tell me that there is anything vague about them.
Innocent until proven guilty, Kiddo.
It's up to you to put up the specific predictions that came true.
What predictions?
That a person expresses an opinion about somebody that proves to be prophetic is not the same thing as a prediction.
Even the prophets of the Bible didn't make predictions. They made statements.
Now if you disagree with Sowell's opinion on these things, make your best case for why you disagree with them. Meanwhile some of the rest of us will continue to discuss why those essays were prophetic.
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You do know, don't you, that much of Western civilization is based on the Bible?This ego is a rightwing meme and nothing more.
Apparently people are willing to put a lot on the line..obamacare evil...nsa wiretapping..meh I rather drink my coffee..that basically sums up this whole situation. So in closing fuck your bible, fuck your moronic theory, but enjoy the patting on the back by like minded people.
And even if it wasn't, the analogy still works. The leftists are soooooo predictable.
They don't like the topic
They don't like the source
They are incapable of focusing on a concept
So we have the usual predictable characters show up to attack me, to attack Sowell, to attack Republicans, to attack Bush, to attack conservatives using all manner of ad hominem, straw men, red herrings, and personal insults to do it to make sure that no discussion will take place on the topic.
And the inescapable truth remains. Every single one of those essays that Sowell wrote back in 2008 has proved to hold water as straight on truth. And not a one of the leftists has made the slightest attempt to disprove that.
Innocent until proven guilty, Kiddo.
It's up to you to put up the specific predictions that came true.
What predictions?
That a person expresses an opinion about somebody that proves to be prophetic is not the same thing as a prediction.[/COLOR]
Even the prophets of the Bible didn't make predictions. They made statements.
Now if you disagree with Sowell's opinion on these things, make your best case for why you disagree with them. Meanwhile some of the rest of us will continue to discuss why those essays were prophetic.
Now when it was passed, we didn't. Obama broke his promise about legislation being public for a few days before he signed it.The LSM is so Dem no one knew what ACA even was...
The prophesy that in the end, Israel would stand alone is the most disturbing.
I first heard this when I was a teen. It was suggested that one of two things would have to happen. The US would abandon Israel or the US would no longer exist. At the time both possibilities were considered ridiculous.
Not so much any more.
The prophesy that in the end, Israel would stand alone is the most disturbing.
I first heard this when I was a teen. It was suggested that one of two things would have to happen. The US would abandon Israel or the US would no longer exist. At the time both possibilities were considered ridiculous.
Not so much any more.
So, I have been hearing "prophesies" now for 70 years. And virtually all of them were and are bunkem to get suckers like you to part with your money. Works too.
Huh. How about that. Kinda like these failed prophesies designed to get suckers to part with their money.The prophesy that in the end, Israel would stand alone is the most disturbing.
I first heard this when I was a teen. It was suggested that one of two things would have to happen. The US would abandon Israel or the US would no longer exist. At the time both possibilities were considered ridiculous.
Not so much any more.
So, I have been hearing "prophesies" now for 70 years. And virtually all of them were and are bunkem to get suckers like you to part with your money. Works too.
Oh?Yes, I encourage all to search the scriptures for how Our Lord would want us to live our lives.
No, the ACA is not crumbling before anyone's eyes: to suggest such is hyperbolic demagoguery.
I admire you in so many ways, but I am very careful when you start talking religion and American narrative, Foxfyre.
So you will not rail on about derailing your thread, I will leave it at this.
Think, folks.
Exactly.
As for ‘prophecy’ and ‘scriptures,’ theists are at liberty of course to believe whatever they wish, provided they don’t attempt to codify those beliefs.
And those free from faith are also at liberty to reject the ridiculous notion of ‘prophecy,’ that it has any ‘bearing’ on current events, and continue to correctly and appropriately ignore the partisan nonsense expressed by Thomas Sowell and his ilk.
Every good prophet knows to write about subjects well studied and keep the predictions vague.
. . . . Senator Obama is running on an image that is directly the opposite of what he has been doing for two decades. His escapes from his past have been as remarkable as the great escapes of Houdini. , ,
It gives us an insight into the huge gulf between Senator Obama's election year image and what he has actually been for and against over the preceding decades. It also shows the huge gulf between his values and those of most other Americans.
The old phrase, "a man of high ideals but no principles," is one that applies all too painfully to Barack Obama today. His words expressing lofty ideals may appeal to the gullible but his long history of having no principles makes him a danger of the first magnitude in the White House.
Vague predictions and political bitching does not a prophet make.
*yawn*
Show me a republican who predicted a second Obama term and I'll show you a true American prophet.
This thread and its conservative subscribers is an excellent example of why the Framers mandated that church and state remain separate.
You do know, don't you, that much of Western civilization is based on the Bible?This ego is a rightwing meme and nothing more.
Apparently people are willing to put a lot on the line..obamacare evil...nsa wiretapping..meh I rather drink my coffee..that basically sums up this whole situation. So in closing fuck your bible, fuck your moronic theory, but enjoy the patting on the back by like minded people.
And even if it wasn't, the analogy still works. The leftists are soooooo predictable.
They don't like the topic
They don't like the source
They are incapable of focusing on a concept
So we have the usual predictable characters show up to attack me, to attack Sowell, to attack Republicans, to attack Bush, to attack conservatives using all manner of ad hominem, straw men, red herrings, and personal insults to do it to make sure that no discussion will take place on the topic.
And the inescapable truth remains. Every single one of those essays that Sowell wrote back in 2008 has proved to hold water as straight on truth. And not a one of the leftists has made the slightest attempt to disprove that.
