A Guide to the White Nationalist Movement Now Leading Conservative Media

[martybegan]

Got any proof of any racism, sexism, homophobia, or the other "isms/ists"

I doubt it.

Do I have proof that all those sites are racist, homophobic, xenophobic?

That's like asking if I have proof that my canine pet is a dog.

Just clink on the sites if you want proof.

I meant any proof that I am one of the above.

Where do you get the idea that it's all about you?
Nobody mentioned you and yet -- up you popped. Isn't that instructive.

What are you talking about? He actually asked "Is Marty one of them?", and answered "Yep".

Read the freaking post log before responding.

Not until AFTER you came in ASSUMING the association.

As I said --- it's instructive that you volunteered.

he was painting everyone to the right of the political spectrum as "alt-right racist hurr durr" in all of his other spam posts on the topic. His intent is clear.

You obviously approve of his ham handed methods.

 

[Katzndogz]

There are few positions as clear as this.
If you are not a globalist, you are a nationalist. If you are white and believe in the existence of the United States as an independent nation you are a white nationalist.

 

[hazlnut]

You can respond to that, but if you truly support free speech, your response cannot include an action to ban him or silence him.

As long I'm not working for/with the Government.

I can attempt to ban/silence/ridicule/boycott anyone, anything I want.

Do you understand what an editorial page is, what it's for?

Do you really understand the Bill of Rights? It's purpose?

First Amendment protections DO NOT cover negative blowback from exercising your rights.

 

[martybegan]

You can respond to that, but if you truly support free speech, your response cannot include an action to ban him or silence him.

As long I'm not working for/with the Government.

I can attempt to ban/silence/ridicule/boycott anyone, anything I want.

Do you understand what an editorial page is, what it's for?

Do you really understand the Bill of Rights? It's purpose?

First Amendment protections DO NOT cover negative blowback from exercising your rights.

You can, but it means you really don't support free speech.

if you try to COUNTER their argument or demonstration, that is one thing, but when you try to silence them, that makes you a censoring fucktard.

While the first amendment doesn't cover blowback from private people, the concept of free speech means you counter speech you don't like with more speech, not with silencing them, or trying to ruin them or get them fired.

Those are strong arm tactics, and I'm not surprised a progressive twat-waddle like you endorses them.

 

[OldUSAFSniper]

"Alt Right?" What, was "neocons" out of vogue? I'm having difficulty keeping up with the new terms used by the left. Do they speak English anymore, or do you have to talk in abbreviations and code words?

Such an appropriate moniker... "hazlnut." Well at least the last three letters are appropriate. Dumber than a bag of manure that's been sitting in the back of an open trailer for a week. Speaks of the bill of rights... absolutely goes ape shit over people protecting their 2nd Amendment rights. I saw a video of a shreiking feminist who was screaming "sexual harrassment" at some poor guy in Seattle after he told her that his name was "Hugh Mungous." I never laughed so hard... that's EXACTLY what kind of dink hazlnut is.

 

[Dr.Traveler]

"Alt Right?" What, was "neocons" out of vogue? I'm having difficulty keeping up with the new terms used by the left. Do they speak English anymore, or do you have to talk in abbreviations and code words?

Such an appropriate moniker... "hazlnut." Well at least the last three letters are appropriate. Dumber than a bag of manure that's been sitting in the back of an open trailer for a week. Speaks of the bill of rights... absolutely goes ape shit over people protecting their 2nd Amendment rights. I saw a video of a shreiking feminist who was screaming "sexual harrassment" at some poor guy in Seattle after he told her that his name was "Hugh Mungous." I never laughed so hard... that's EXACTLY what kind of dink hazlnut is.

#AltRight is a self selected term on Twitter. The folks we're talking about post using it. They include it on their profiles so they can find each other. There's no made up movement here. It's real, exists, and is full of the scum of the Earth. They're the same ilk as #GamerGate, namely racist misogynist idiots that act like a five year old that learned their first curse word. They revel in tossing out racial slurs and slut shaming.

The big issue is this: These are absolutely NOT the Tea Party folks. In fact, they came up with their own moniker to identify themselves as different from the Tea Party. They are not Conservatives. They made up one of the racial slur nicknames specifically to laugh at Conservatives. They're the lowest of the low, and every single Conservative I've met would put boot to behind if they met these guys in person.

And yeah, the list in the first post is pretty accurate as far as folks linked to #AltRight. Milo Yanniopolis works for Breitbart and got banned from Twitter over instructing his followers to harass others. The #FreeMilo hashtag afterwards was pretty popular with #AltRight users.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

What Is The “Alt-Right”? A Guide To The White Nationalist Movement Now Leading Conservative Media

Key Concepts

“White Genocide”

“Cuckservatives”


Key Players

Richard Spencer, The “Alt-Right’s” Racist Founder

Stephen Bannon And Breitbart News

Milo Yiannopoulos

American Renaissance

VDare.com

The Daily Stormer

The Political Cesspool

The Right Stuff

Mike Cernovich


This thread should be posted at the top of the Politics forum -- as I see links to places like The Daily Stormer showing up at USMB regularly. These scum need to be outed and exposed.

Yes, I'm passionately against White Supremacists and Alt White Right Nationalist getting a foothold in mainstream media and internet.

Explain yourself.

Evidence with links, you don't like?

You people are fucking nuts. There's no way anyone of sound mind could explain it.

You guys really hate it when we hold up a mirror and you see that sheet over your head.

Sheets of laughter at the crazy people.

 

[Dr.Traveler]

There are few positions as clear as this.
If you are not a globalist, you are a nationalist. If you are white and believe in the existence of the United States as an independent nation you are a white nationalist.

No, you are wrong. White+Nationalist doesn't equal "White Nationalist". It means "Nationalist." You can be a Nationalist and be Latino, Black, Asian, etc. Nationalism is a problematic term, but it isn't inherently racist.

White Nationalist actually means you want America to be a White nation. It is inherently racist and there's no way to spin that into something else.

For the record, I've long suspected that the #AltRight folks aren't really racists through and through. Some are, sure, but I suspect most are like a little kid that learned a new curse word. They just enjoy tossing out racial slurs and bullying. That doesn't make them any less of an asshole than the racists, but it helps you understand why they're the scum of Twitter. Only the #GamerGate guys come as close to the bottom of the barrel as these guys.

And if you don't know what #GamerGate is, count yourself as lucky.

 

[hazlnut]

It's good we're talking about this.

Call the 'Alt-Right' Movement What It Is: Racist as Hell

 

[Syriusly]

What Is The “Alt-Right”? A Guide To The White Nationalist Movement Now Leading Conservative Media

Key Concepts

“White Genocide”

“Cuckservatives”


Key Players

Richard Spencer, The “Alt-Right’s” Racist Founder

Stephen Bannon And Breitbart News

Milo Yiannopoulos

American Renaissance

VDare.com

The Daily Stormer

The Political Cesspool

The Right Stuff

Mike Cernovich


This thread should be posted at the top of the Politics forum -- as I see links to places like The Daily Stormer showing up at USMB regularly. These scum need to be outed and exposed.

Yes, I'm passionately against White Supremacists and Alt White Right Nationalist getting a foothold in mainstream media and internet.

Interesting stuff

Milo Yiannopoulos

Breitbart editor Milo Yiannopoulos has made his mark as a stridently anti-feminist provocateur. He declared his birthday to be “World Patriarchy Day” and encouraged his followers to “cat-call at least five women” and to tell a woman, “This isn’t going to suck itself.” He attended a protest against sexual assault and held a sign that said, “'Rape culture' and Harry Potter. Both fantasy.”


In a Breitbart piece on the "alt-right” he praised the movement for its “youthful energy and jarring, taboo-defying rhetoric that have boosted its membership and made it impossible to ignore.” He dismissed the movement’s racial undertones, writing, “the alt-right's young meme brigades shock older generations with outrageous caricatures, from the Jewish 'Shlomo Shekelburg' to 'Remove Kebab,' an internet in-joke about the Bosnian genocide.”


Discussing Islam, Yiannopoulos said, “There is a structural problem with this religion that is preventing its followers from assimilating properly into Western culture. There is something profoundly antithetical to our values about this particular religion.”


In July, Twitter permanently suspended Yiannopoulos’ account after he led a harassment campaign against actress Leslie Jones, who is African-American. As BuzzFeed reported, many of the tweets “decried Jones for being black and a woman.”

 

[Syriusly]

Bannon told Mother Jones that Breitbart News is “the platform for the alt-right.”

The Washington Post reports that Trump’s decision to hire Bannon was the latest sign for white nationalists that “their worldview was gaining popularity and that the old Republican Party was coming to an end.” The paper added that Trump’s electoral “strategy now resembles the alt-right dream of maximizing the white vote — even as polling shows his standing with white voters falls short of Mitt Romney’s in 2012.”

 

[Ozone]

hillary has just send all her supporters and all the people in the democratic party and half the people of the republican party and all the hulkamaniacs around the globe on the biggest wild goose chase in the history of the internet to date. the sick thing is, the vanity of these people, they will stop at nothing to bring the alt-right golem to life, and generate the bigliest wave of mass hysteria since hitler freaked out about the jews. these are exciting times to be alive.

 

[ptbw forever]

What Is The “Alt-Right”? A Guide To The White Nationalist Movement Now Leading Conservative Media

Key Concepts

“White Genocide”

“Cuckservatives”


Key Players

Richard Spencer, The “Alt-Right’s” Racist Founder

Stephen Bannon And Breitbart News

Milo Yiannopoulos

American Renaissance

VDare.com

The Daily Stormer

The Political Cesspool

The Right Stuff

Mike Cernovich


This thread should be posted at the top of the Politics forum -- as I see links to places like The Daily Stormer showing up at USMB regularly. These scum need to be outed and exposed.

Yes, I'm passionately against White Supremacists and Alt White Right Nationalist getting a foothold in mainstream media and internet.

It seems someone got their DNC marching orders. Break out the broad paintbrush to smear anyone even tilting to the right of the political spectrum.

And linking a gay brit to white supremacists.... Really?

I hope you get paid to be this much of a dick sucking hack, hazlnut.

Is Marty one of them too?

Seems like... yep.

Got any proof of any racism, sexism, homophobia, or the other "isms/ists"

I doubt it.

Do I have proof that all those sites are racist, homophobic, xenophobic?

That's like asking if I have proof that my canine pet is a dog.

Just clink on the sites if you want proof.

The site you linked to initially is the racist one.

 

[Pogo]

Do I have proof that all those sites are racist, homophobic, xenophobic?

That's like asking if I have proof that my canine pet is a dog.

Just clink on the sites if you want proof.

I meant any proof that I am one of the above.

Where do you get the idea that it's all about you?
Nobody mentioned you and yet -- up you popped. Isn't that instructive.

What are you talking about? He actually asked "Is Marty one of them?", and answered "Yep".

Read the freaking post log before responding.

Not until AFTER you came in ASSUMING the association.

As I said --- it's instructive that you volunteered.

he was painting everyone to the right of the political spectrum as "alt-right racist hurr durr" in all of his other spam posts on the topic. His intent is clear.

You obviously approve of his ham handed methods.

Once AGAIN as already noted --- that broad brush is an assumption you made. It's not there in the post

You want to know who "alt right" refers to --- go look at who clicked "funny on my last post", and then look up what his name means. Go look up Steve McRacist's avatar. Go look up Odium and the various Hitlerists that have been oozing into this site.

That's who they are. If you choose to see them as "we", well that's on you.

 

[martybegan]

I meant any proof that I am one of the above.

Where do you get the idea that it's all about you?
Nobody mentioned you and yet -- up you popped. Isn't that instructive.

What are you talking about? He actually asked "Is Marty one of them?", and answered "Yep".

Read the freaking post log before responding.

Not until AFTER you came in ASSUMING the association.

As I said --- it's instructive that you volunteered.

he was painting everyone to the right of the political spectrum as "alt-right racist hurr durr" in all of his other spam posts on the topic. His intent is clear.

You obviously approve of his ham handed methods.

Once AGAIN as already noted --- that broad brush is an assumption you made. It's not there in the post

You want to know who "alt right" refers to --- go look at who clicked "funny on my last post", and then look up what his name means. Go look up Steve McRacist's avatar. Go look up Odium and the various Hitlerists that have been oozing into this site.

That's who they are. If you choose to see them as "we", well that's on you.

Again, supporting their right to expression is not approval or acceptance of their position. It is TOLERATING their position, i.e. not trying to suppress it.

 

[Dr.Traveler]

Where do you get the idea that it's all about you?
Nobody mentioned you and yet -- up you popped. Isn't that instructive.

What are you talking about? He actually asked "Is Marty one of them?", and answered "Yep".

Read the freaking post log before responding.

Not until AFTER you came in ASSUMING the association.

As I said --- it's instructive that you volunteered.

he was painting everyone to the right of the political spectrum as "alt-right racist hurr durr" in all of his other spam posts on the topic. His intent is clear.

You obviously approve of his ham handed methods.

Once AGAIN as already noted --- that broad brush is an assumption you made. It's not there in the post

You want to know who "alt right" refers to --- go look at who clicked "funny on my last post", and then look up what his name means. Go look up Steve McRacist's avatar. Go look up Odium and the various Hitlerists that have been oozing into this site.

That's who they are. If you choose to see them as "we", well that's on you.

Again, supporting their right to expression is not approval or acceptance of their position. It is TOLERATING their position, i.e. not trying to suppress it.

They undoubtedly have a right to their opinion under Free Speech protections. They aren't free from consequences. #FreeMilo as a hashtag came about as the #AltRight protesting the banning of one of their own after he incited his followers to harass Leslie Jones, something that is still going down as we speak here. He paid for his actions with loss of access to Twitter, which is where the AltRight seems to really enjoy hanging out. Brief Aside: Twitter sucks for many many reasons.

This all entered the conversation not because these guys are new. They're not. It's also not because they represent the GOP as a whole. They don't. It because Trump is pretty openly catering to them and that needs to be called out. A lot of folks have racist friends in their past. We aren't far past Robert Byrd (D) and Strom Thurmond (R) as influential politicians and they were both racist as hell and still have proteges and colleagues in power on both sides. The issue is someone currently running currently catering to some racist cyber bullies. That's problematic in a lot of ways.

 

[Norman]

What are you talking about? He actually asked "Is Marty one of them?", and answered "Yep".

Read the freaking post log before responding.

Not until AFTER you came in ASSUMING the association.

As I said --- it's instructive that you volunteered.

he was painting everyone to the right of the political spectrum as "alt-right racist hurr durr" in all of his other spam posts on the topic. His intent is clear.

You obviously approve of his ham handed methods.

Once AGAIN as already noted --- that broad brush is an assumption you made. It's not there in the post

You want to know who "alt right" refers to --- go look at who clicked "funny on my last post", and then look up what his name means. Go look up Steve McRacist's avatar. Go look up Odium and the various Hitlerists that have been oozing into this site.

That's who they are. If you choose to see them as "we", well that's on you.

Again, supporting their right to expression is not approval or acceptance of their position. It is TOLERATING their position, i.e. not trying to suppress it.

They undoubtedly have a right to their opinion under Free Speech protections. They aren't free from consequences. #FreeMilo as a hashtag came about as the #AltRight protesting the banning of one of their own after he incited his followers to harass Leslie Jones, something that is still going down as we speak here. He paid for his actions with loss of access to Twitter, which is where the AltRight seems to really enjoy hanging out. Brief Aside: Twitter sucks for many many reasons.

This all entered the conversation not because these guys are new. They're not. It's also not because they represent the GOP as a whole. They don't. It because Trump is pretty openly catering to them and that needs to be called out. A lot of folks have racist friends in their past. We aren't far past Robert Byrd (D) and Strom Thurmond (R) as influential politicians and they were both racist as hell and still have proteges and colleagues in power on both sides. The issue is someone currently running currently catering to some racist cyber bullies. That's problematic in a lot of ways.

You mean Hillary Clinton, whose mentor is Robert Byrd?

 

[martybegan]

What are you talking about? He actually asked "Is Marty one of them?", and answered "Yep".

Read the freaking post log before responding.

Not until AFTER you came in ASSUMING the association.

As I said --- it's instructive that you volunteered.

he was painting everyone to the right of the political spectrum as "alt-right racist hurr durr" in all of his other spam posts on the topic. His intent is clear.

You obviously approve of his ham handed methods.

Once AGAIN as already noted --- that broad brush is an assumption you made. It's not there in the post

You want to know who "alt right" refers to --- go look at who clicked "funny on my last post", and then look up what his name means. Go look up Steve McRacist's avatar. Go look up Odium and the various Hitlerists that have been oozing into this site.

That's who they are. If you choose to see them as "we", well that's on you.

Again, supporting their right to expression is not approval or acceptance of their position. It is TOLERATING their position, i.e. not trying to suppress it.

They undoubtedly have a right to their opinion under Free Speech protections. They aren't free from consequences. #FreeMilo as a hashtag came about as the #AltRight protesting the banning of one of their own after he incited his followers to harass Leslie Jones, something that is still going down as we speak here. He paid for his actions with loss of access to Twitter, which is where the AltRight seems to really enjoy hanging out. Brief Aside: Twitter sucks for many many reasons.

This all entered the conversation not because these guys are new. They're not. It's also not because they represent the GOP as a whole. They don't. It because Trump is pretty openly catering to them and that needs to be called out. A lot of folks have racist friends in their past. We aren't far past Robert Byrd (D) and Strom Thurmond (R) as influential politicians and they were both racist as hell and still have proteges and colleagues in power on both sides. The issue is someone currently running currently catering to some racist cyber bullies. That's problematic in a lot of ways.

First of all, YOU are assigning Milo to the 'alt-right", thus falling into the tactic you are denying. He's a gay guy, and the guys you lump right leaning people into, the actual white nationalists, probably don't have anything good to say about gay people, especially flaming ones like Milo.

Second, your definition of "inciting" is basically "Milo said some mean things, then Milo's followers said some meaner things, so lets ban Milo". I have a feeling plenty of SJW's can have the same thing said about them, but when lefties do it, its not hate, its "passion".

 

[PredFan]

Hazelnut can't stop being an ignorant left wing hack.

 

[Dr.Traveler]

Not until AFTER you came in ASSUMING the association.

As I said --- it's instructive that you volunteered.

he was painting everyone to the right of the political spectrum as "alt-right racist hurr durr" in all of his other spam posts on the topic. His intent is clear.

You obviously approve of his ham handed methods.

Once AGAIN as already noted --- that broad brush is an assumption you made. It's not there in the post

You want to know who "alt right" refers to --- go look at who clicked "funny on my last post", and then look up what his name means. Go look up Steve McRacist's avatar. Go look up Odium and the various Hitlerists that have been oozing into this site.

That's who they are. If you choose to see them as "we", well that's on you.

Again, supporting their right to expression is not approval or acceptance of their position. It is TOLERATING their position, i.e. not trying to suppress it.

They undoubtedly have a right to their opinion under Free Speech protections. They aren't free from consequences. #FreeMilo as a hashtag came about as the #AltRight protesting the banning of one of their own after he incited his followers to harass Leslie Jones, something that is still going down as we speak here. He paid for his actions with loss of access to Twitter, which is where the AltRight seems to really enjoy hanging out. Brief Aside: Twitter sucks for many many reasons.

This all entered the conversation not because these guys are new. They're not. It's also not because they represent the GOP as a whole. They don't. It because Trump is pretty openly catering to them and that needs to be called out. A lot of folks have racist friends in their past. We aren't far past Robert Byrd (D) and Strom Thurmond (R) as influential politicians and they were both racist as hell and still have proteges and colleagues in power on both sides. The issue is someone currently running currently catering to some racist cyber bullies. That's problematic in a lot of ways.

First of all, YOU are assigning Milo to the 'alt-right", thus falling into the tactic you are denying. He's a gay guy, and the guys you lump right leaning people into, the actual white nationalists, probably don't have anything good to say about gay people, especially flaming ones like Milo.

Second, your definition of "inciting" is basically "Milo said some mean things, then Milo's followers said some meaner things, so lets ban Milo". I have a feeling plenty of SJW's can have the same thing said about them, but when lefties do it, its not hate, its "passion".

Now you're making assumptions about the #AltRight folks. When Milo got banned, they're the guys that got the #FreeMilo hashtag trending, raised the ruckus, and made a fuss. They see him as one of theirs and he's both written in their defense and has been seen as a leader in the movement. He's one of them.

As for why he got banned on Twitter, that wasn't my call but the folks that did have to make a decision made the call to ban him. There was a pretty clear through line from him to the harrassment Leslie Jones faced on Twitter, and still faces now. And it wasn't just mean stuff. She's had her phone hacked, been doxxed, had her website hacked, had personal photos posted online, received death threats, etc. We'd hold Islamic Mullahs responsible for cyber attacks if they called for Muslims to harass someone, the standard here is pretty similar.

As for the #AltRight as White Nationalists? I'd debate that. There's some White Nationalists in there for sure, but the majority of the movement are pretty much assholes first and last. Most of them act like a five year old that's learned a curse word. They're casually cruel, racist, and misogynist. That overlaps with some of the White Nationalist folks but they're actually something different but every bit as repulsive.

BTW, on Twitter SJW has become one of those words I'll auto block on, as well as virtue signalling. It's a way to make "standing up for others" into something weak and laughable. A fair amount of folks that'd be labelled as SJW got killed in the 60's and still get killed under despots today. Nothing wrong with taking a stand for what you feel is right.