A historical film on hitler

[L.K.Eder]

Lets go back to the orignal question I asked you
Are these views of a socialist?


total confiscation of all war profits.

nationalization of all trusts.

profit-sharing in large industries.

generous increase in old-age pensions.

creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople, and the strongest consideration must be given to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.

agrarian reform in accordance with our national requirements, and the enactment of a law to expropriate the owners without compensation of any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.

ruthless war be waged against those who work to the injury of the common welfare. Traitors, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished with death, regardless of creed or race.

Roman law, which serves a materialist ordering of the world, be replaced by German common law.

The conception of the State Idea (science of citizenship) must be taught in the schools from the very beginning. We demand that specially talented children of poor parents, whatever their station or occupation, be educated at the expense of the State.


The State has the duty to help raise the standard of national health by providing maternity welfare centers, by prohibiting juvenile labor, by increasing physical fitness through the introduction of compulsory games and gymnastics, and by the greatest possible encouragement of associations concerned with the physical education of the young.


COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD

In order to carry out this program we demand: the creation of a strong central authority in the State, the unconditional authority by the political central parliament of the whole State and all its organizations.

Your reply was

and I will add this.
You can't call this facism when l.k. eger said it was the socialist leaders of the german workers party who supposedly wrote it. One of you are wrong
Have fun dancing around that

stop misrepresenting and abusing what i wrote, parasite.

you cannot grasp what i wrote despite me being very patient with you.

you wrote it bitch. Don't like me reposting what you said fuck off. As for being patient what are you going to do about it? As for me I can give back what ever you put out.

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you earned your neg rep.

expect more.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

stop misrepresenting and abusing what i wrote, parasite.

you cannot grasp what i wrote despite me being very patient with you.

you wrote it bitch. Don't like me reposting what you said fuck off. As for being patient what are you going to do about it? As for me I can give back what ever you put out.

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you earned your neg rep.

expect more.

and your point? whats a neg when the truth has been shown you you asswipe.
So rock on bitch for the negs bring it on wont stop me calling you a dickless wonder.

 

[L.K.Eder]

you wrote it bitch. Don't like me reposting what you said fuck off. As for being patient what are you going to do about it? As for me I can give back what ever you put out.

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you earned your neg rep.

expect more.

and your point? whats a neg when the truth has been shown you you asswipe.
So rock on bitch for the negs bring it on wont stop me calling you a dickless wonder.

hilarious meltdown, vermin.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The film will be worthwhile if it reports accurately that Hitler, on achieving power, sided with the capitalists and corporatists, and then murdered the socialist leadership in the Party during the "night of the long knives." If the film incorporates that truth, then it might be well worth watching.

I think to many people just settle on a few similar characteristics with conservatism and say, "See!!! Fascism is the alignment of corporations and government and republicans are in bed with corporations." Then tell me what its called when a dem president and congress take over the largest car corporation in the world.

Often times when people come up with a similarity of fascism and conservatism you can also draw the same similarity with communism as well.

Does it bother you that Hitler and Joseph Goerbbels got alot of its eugenics and propaganda ideas from early 20th century progressives?

Does it bother you that the neo-Nazi movement in America call themselves the National Socialists of America

Does it bother you that the word "Nazi" was short for "National Socialist German Workers' Party"



Here is the "25 Points" of the National Socialist German Workers' Party:

Edited by: Dr. Robert Ley
Published by: Central Publishing House of the N.S.D.A.P.
Franz Eher, successor Munich


The program of the NSDAP

The program is the political foundation of the NSDAP and accordingly the primary political law of the State. It has been made brief and clear intentionally.

All legal precepts must be applied in the spirit of the party program.

Since the taking over of control, the Fuehrer has succeeded in the realization of essential portions of the Party program from the fundamentals to the detail.

The Party Program of the NSDAP was proclaimed on the 24 February 1920 by Adolf Hitler at the first large Party gathering in Munich and since that day has remained unaltered. Within the national socialist philosophy is summarized in 25 points:

1. We demand the unification of all Germans in the Greater Germany on the basis of the right of self-determination of peoples.

2. We demand equality of rights for the German people in respect to the other nations; abrogation of the peace treaties of Versailles and St. Germain.

3. We demand land and territory (colonies) for the sustenance of our people, and colonization for our surplus population.

4. Only a member of the race can be a citizen. A member of the race can only be one who is of German blood, without consideration of creed. Consequently no Jew can be a member of the race.

5. Whoever has no citizenship is to be able to live in Germany only as a guest, and must be under the authority of legislation for foreigners.

6. The right to determine matters concerning administration and law belongs only to the citizen. Therefore we demand that every public office, of any sort whatsoever, whether in the Reich, the county or municipality, be filled only by citizens. We combat the corrupting parliamentary economy, office-holding only according to party inclinations without consideration of character or abilities.

7. We demand that the state be charged first with providing the opportunity for a livelihood and way of life for the citizens. If it is impossible to sustain the total population of the State, then the members of foreign nations (non-citizens) are to be expelled from the Reich.
8. Any further immigration of non-citizens is to be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans, who have immigrated to Germany since the 2 August 1914, be forced immediately to leave the Reich.

9. All citizens must have equal rights and obligations.

10. The first obligation of every citizen must be to work both spiritually and physically. The activity of individuals is not to counteract the interests of the universality, but must have its result within the framework of the whole for the benefit of all Consequently we demand:

11. Abolition of unearned (work and labour) incomes. Breaking of rent-slavery.

12. In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.

13. We demand the nationalization of all (previous) associated industries (trusts).
14. We demand a division of profits of all heavy industries.
15. We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare.
16. We demand the creation of a healthy middle class and its conservation, immediate communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low cost to small firms, the utmost consideration of all small firms in contracts with the State, county or municipality.

17. We demand a land reform suitable to our needs, provision of a law for the free expropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, abolition of taxes on land and prevention of all speculation in land.

18. We demand struggle without consideration against those whose activity is injurious to the general interest. Common national criminals, usurers, Schieber and so forth are to be punished with death, without consideration of confession or race.

19. We demand substitution of a German common law in place of the Roman Law serving a materialistic world-order.

20. The state is to be responsible for a fundamental reconstruction of our whole national education program, to enable every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education and subsequently introduction into leading positions. The plans of instruction of all educational institutions are to conform with the experiences of practical life. The comprehension of the concept of the State must be striven for by the school [Staatsbuergerkunde] as early as the beginning of understanding. We demand the education at the expense of the State of outstanding intellectually gifted children of poor parents without consideration of position or profession.

21. The State is to care for the elevating national health by protecting the mother and child, by outlawing child-labor, by the encouragement of physical fitness, by means of the legal establishment of a gymnastic and sport obligation, by the utmost support of all organizations concerned with the physical instruction of the young.

22. We demand abolition of the mercenary troops and formation of a national army.

23. We demand legal opposition to known lies and their promulgation through the press. In order to enable the provision of a German press, we demand, that: a. All writers and employees of the newspapers appearing in the German language be members of the race: b. Non-German newspapers be required to have the express permission of the State to be published. They may not be printed in the German language: c. Non-Germans are forbidden by law any financial interest in German publications, or any influence on them, and as punishment for violations the closing of such a publication as well as the immediate expulsion from the Reich of the non-German concerned. Publications which are counter to the general good are to be forbidden. We demand legal prosecution of artistic and literary forms which exert a destructive influence on our national life, and the closure of organizations opposing the above made demands.

24. We demand freedom of religion for all religious denominations within the state so long as they do not endanger its existence or oppose the moral senses of the Germanic race. The Party as such advocates the standpoint of a positive Christianity without binding itself confessionally to any one denomination. It combats the Jewish-materialistic spirit within and around us, and is convinced that a lasting recovery of our nation can only succeed from within on the framework: common utility precedes individual utility.

25. For the execution of all of this we demand the formation of a strong central power in the Reich. Unlimited authority of the central parliament over the whole Reich and its organizations in general. The forming of state and profession chambers for the execution of the laws made by the Reich within the various states of the confederation. The leaders of the Party promise, if necessary by sacrificing their own lives, to support by the execution of the points set forth above without consideration.

People can argue day and night about whether fascism is a right wing or left wing ideology.

The thing that people often miss is Hitler did not do what he did with a small limited government . He did it with a large central government that had large amount of power. This is what has historically lead to opression and slavery of a country's people and this is what will lead us to the same thing if we continue down this road.

Please don't be arrogant enough to believe that tyranny would never show its face in this country ever again.

most in this discussion failed to grasp what you posted.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

you earned your neg rep.

expect more.

and your point? whats a neg when the truth has been shown you you asswipe.
So rock on bitch for the negs bring it on wont stop me calling you a dickless wonder.

hilarious meltdown, vermin.

what an anal bitch if you think that was a melt down.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Hitler found no appeal in Western democracy partially because of its slow pace. Likewise, he found great appeal in his National Socialist State and the swift pace of its legislative process: "The essence of leadership as conceived by the National Socialist State is the capacity to form rapid decisions" (Hitler, My New Order 228).
"One works best when alone." This adage, commonly attributed to Hitler, perfectly sums up his views of democracy and parliamentary-style government. He believed that individuals operating in a democracy are not brought to their fullest potential due to the ultimatums and compromises (both in principle and practice) that commonly occur:

...democracy will in practice lead to the destruction of a people's true values. And this also serves to explain how it is that people with a great past from the time when they surrender themselves to the unlimited, democratic rule of the masses slowly lose their former position; for the outstanding achievements of individuals...are now rendered practically ineffective through the oppression of mere numbers. (Rauschning 785)

Matt Brundage Adolf Hitler's Views and Opinions of Democracy


Hitler's meaning of socialism, therefore did not refer to a specific economic system, but to "an instinct for national self-preservation" (Fischer 125) or nationalism. Concerning the Socialist aspects of the 25-Point program, Hitler made promises "because in 1920, the German working class and the lower middle classes were saturated in a radical anti-capitalism; such phrases were essential for any politician who wanted to attract their support"

I repeat hitler was a dictator that used socialism as a means to push his agenda.

 

[Ravi]

Nationalism in its extreme form is fascism.

Beware of it, because it is a tool of the right.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Nationalism in its extreme form is fascism.

Beware of it, because it is a tool of the right.

I repeat hitler was a dictator that used socialism as a means to push his agenda.

 

[JakeStarkey]

bigrebnc got slaughtered in his own thread.

He had no idea that the film had been released years earlier.

He had no idea that Hitler killed the socialists and communists in Germany.

His own evidence showed that Hitler did not crush the workers.

His own evidence showed that Hitler and Big Business were hand in hand with each other.

I am posting this in the other thread in answer to his demand.

He will do even worse this time.

All are invited to join in, but I would advise that you read all the pages first.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

bigrebnc got slaughtered in his own thread.

He had no idea that the film had been released years earlier.

He had no idea that Hitler killed the socialists and communists in Germany.

His own evidence showed that Hitler did not crush the workers.

His own evidence showed that Hitler and Big Business were hand in hand with each other.

I am posting this in the other thread in answer to his demand.

He will do even worse this time.

All are invited to join in, but I would advise that you read all the pages first.

ok fuck face lets rock you win I leave I win you leave.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Hitler was the leader of the National Socialist German Workers Party
He used socialist to gain power then he killed the leaders of the party.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Where are you at fuck wit?

 

[JakeStarkey]

bigrebnc got slaughtered in his own thread.

He had no idea that the film had been released years earlier.

He had no idea that Hitler killed the socialists and communists in Germany.

His own evidence showed that Hitler did not crush the workers.

His own evidence showed that Hitler and Big Business were hand in hand with each other.

I am posting this in the other thread in answer to his demand.

He will do even worse this time.

All are invited to join in, but I would advise that you read all the pages first.

ok fuck face lets rock you win I leave I win you leave.

You already lost. Leave.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

bigrebnc got slaughtered in his own thread.

He had no idea that the film had been released years earlier.

He had no idea that Hitler killed the socialists and communists in Germany.

His own evidence showed that Hitler did not crush the workers.

His own evidence showed that Hitler and Big Business were hand in hand with each other.

I am posting this in the other thread in answer to his demand.

He will do even worse this time.

All are invited to join in, but I would advise that you read all the pages first.

ok fuck face lets rock you win I leave I win you leave.

You already lost. Leave.

never happen dumb ass you dance and dance
Make your case or fucking quit and leave this board.
I made mine.
Hitler was the leader of the National Socialist German Workers Party
He used socialist to gain power then he killed the leaders of the party.
Socialism is a preferred system that creates dictators

 

[JakeStarkey]

1) Did Hitler use the SS to kill off the SA socialists, yes or no?

2) Did Hitler kill or imprison the socialists and communists in Germany, yes or no?

3) Did Hitler have the socialists in the leadership of the Party killed, yes or no?

4) Hitler was never a socialist, only an opportunist who killed anyone who opposed him, yes or no?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

1) Did Hitler use the SS to kill off the SA socialists, yes or no?

2) Did Hitler kill or imprisons the socialists and communists in Germany, yes or no?

3) Did Hitler have the socialists in the leadership of the Party killed, yes or no?

4) Hitler was never a socialist, only an opportunist who killed anyone who opposed him, yes or no?

Can't comprehend what I said? I'll repeat it again
Hitler was the leader of the National Socialist German Workers Party
He used socialist to gain power then he killed the leaders of the party.
Socialism is a preferred system that creates dictators

 

[JakeStarkey]

1) Did Hitler use the SS to kill off the SA socialists, yes or no?

2) Did Hitler kill or imprisons the socialists and communists in Germany, yes or no?

3) Did Hitler have the socialists in the leadership of the Party killed, yes or no?

4) Hitler was never a socialist, only an opportunist who killed anyone who opposed him, yes or no?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

1) Did Hitler use the SS to kill off the SA socialists, yes or no?

2) Did Hitler kill or imprisons the socialists and communists in Germany, yes or no?

3) Did Hitler have the socialists in the leadership of the Party killed, yes or no?

4) Hitler was never a socialist, only an opportunist who killed anyone who opposed him, yes or no?

Hitler was the leader of the National Socialist German Workers Party yes or nor
He used socialist to gain power then he killed the leaders of the party.yes or no
Socialism is a preferred system that creates dictators yes or no

 

[JakeStarkey]

You won't answer the questions, you fail, leave the Board.

Hitler was not a socialist, which was the point of the original thread, not did he take over a half baked party with Socialist in its name.

Not anymore than North Korea is a Democratic state.

Not anymore than you are a Patriot.

You are a fake, a fool, and you have been outed yet again.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

You won't answer the questions, you fail, leave the Board.

Hitler was not a socialist, which was the point of the original thread, not did he take over a half baked party with Socialist in its name.

Not anymore than North Korea is a Democratic state.

Not anymore than you are a Patriot.

You are a fake, a fool, and you have been out yet again.

Hitler was the leader of the National Socialist German Workers Party Yes or no
He used socialist to gain power then he killed the leaders of the party. Yes or no
Socialism is a preferred system that creates dictators Yes or no
Nazi means National Socialist German Workers Party yes or no