A Religious Worldview.....'Childish'

[turzovka]

And I am even less optimistic than what I implied or even you. : )

The salient fact you note above speaks volumes, imo. Anyone who thinks President Obama is anything but a useful idiot is one themselves.

But it is the lack of morals and adherence to God in this nation (by christians!) which is the most disturbing fact for me.

There are no perfect Christians....

So since no one is perfect it apparently makes no difference to you how imperfect one is.

Not when Jesus has your back...

You are mistaken once again.

God is not summarized so simply.

Really? Then those two ciminals that he took to Heaven after dying on the cross were worry warts about God...??

Go ahead and try it.

God shows his mercy and truths in a myriad of ways. Chesterton said heresy is the over-emphasis of one teaching at the dismissal of others. Do you really think that is all the Word of God has to say to you?

 

[Moonglow]

Materialism is Marxism, better tell that to the capitalist as that is how they make their coveted money..

 

[Hollie]

1. Actually....it's a question. 'Whose worldview is defined, characterized, by naive and impossible terms?'
Whose?



Now, I don't see any religious posters demanding that every person bend their knee to God, or attacking those who don't. But, daily, the bitter-haters go out of their way to denigrate believers, as believing in an 'invisible pixie in the sky," or as 'Bible-thumpers,' or using the pejorative 'Gawd.'

And here is the salient point: the majority of the sneering cult seem not to recognize not just a childishness of their own beliefs...
....but the downright danger to humanity of them.


2. Most of those jeering are totalitarians, mostly of the Liberal persuasion.
Theirs, the opposite view to the religious one, is Leftism....a religion unto itself.
The 'Left' would include every totalitarian belief, every political doctrine that stems from materialism/Marxism, that finds 'economic inequality' more important than identifying good and evil.

'Every Leftist is, essentially, a Marxist…even though most eschew the title since the fall of the Soviet Union. Even so, Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view. Philosophically, the term implies that only material things are real.'
Prager, chapter 1, “Still The Best Hope”



a. As one of his friends later recalled, "Vladimir Ilych Ulyanov (Lenin) had the courage to come out and say openly that famine would have numerous positive results...Famine, he explained....would bring about the next stage more rapidly, and usher in socialism, the stage that necessarily followed capitalism. Famine would also destroy faith, not only in the tsar, but in God, too." The Black Book of Communism, p.123-124.


b. 'There is no God':
This concept is an essential element of Marxism. As Lenin stated: "Atheism is a natural and inseparable portion of Marxism, of the theory and practice of Scientific Socialism."

If God exists and is in supreme command of the universe, He possesses discretionary power, and His actions cannot always be calculated accurately in advance. The whole edifice of Marxism collapses. When Marx and the Communists deny the existence of God, they simultaneously deny the authority of the Ten Commandments, the existence of absolute standards of right and wrong, of good and evil; and man is left on the playing fields of the universe without a referee, without a book of rules. The winning side in any conflict can decide on what rules of conduct to apply. Morality is the creation of the victor.
The Schwarz Report Essays

c. “Marxism reduced man to his animal wants and material needs….Marxism was a downward step from the human to the animal- a descent from civilization into barbarism, which is to say, from the worship of God to the worship of material things.”
Berman, “Terror and Liberalism,” p. 79.




The importance of religion, here, is that it give the value to human life, beginning in the idea of man created in God's image, and, therefore, each man's life is sacred.....as opposed to the materialism of communism, which shares no such concept.
Compare that view with this:

"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life." Leon Trotsky

Calling such a view 'childish' would be far too kind.

That was a very good insightful summary, thanks.

I am not a date setter (most Catholics are not) but does it not seem as though this world can not last much longer? Everywhere one looks the trends are bad, be it morals or war or economic potential collapse. Just the way people think of themselves and fail to think of others is a disturbing place to be.

The antidote will never be to convert the heathens, there will always be that "honorable" opposition. The only hope is for believers to truly take God seriously in their lives. We are not! Surely not in the more affluent Western nations. We are those materialistic, hedonistic denizens pretty much on the sidelines. Like I said, I am prayerful but not optimistic.

I'm even less optimistic than you are.

If the media is to be believed, there are some 65,915,796 morons who voted for a proven incompetent anti-American values demagogue.

The tipping point has been eclipsed....and we are simply basking in the afterglow of this once great nation.

You're even less optimistic because like so many hyper-religious, self-hating loons, you have an abiding need to project your defeatist, imminent doom mentality on others. Yours is a pathology of hate /self-hate wherein you want any and all around you to share your fears and self-loathing.

 

[Moonglow]

There are no perfect Christians....

So since no one is perfect it apparently makes no difference to you how imperfect one is.

Not when Jesus has your back...

You are mistaken once again.

God is not summarized so simply.

Really? Then those two ciminals that he took to Heaven after dying on the cross were worry warts about God...??

Go ahead and try it.

God shows his mercy and truths in a myriad of ways. Chesterton said heresy is the over-emphasis of one teaching at the dismissal of others. Do you really think that is all the Word of God has to say to you?

Jesus is not God and God shows not only mercy but a wrath also...

 

[turzovka]

1. Actually....it's a question. 'Whose worldview is defined, characterized, by naive and impossible terms?'
Whose?



Now, I don't see any religious posters demanding that every person bend their knee to God, or attacking those who don't. But, daily, the bitter-haters go out of their way to denigrate believers, as believing in an 'invisible pixie in the sky," or as 'Bible-thumpers,' or using the pejorative 'Gawd.'

And here is the salient point: the majority of the sneering cult seem not to recognize not just a childishness of their own beliefs...
....but the downright danger to humanity of them.


2. Most of those jeering are totalitarians, mostly of the Liberal persuasion.
Theirs, the opposite view to the religious one, is Leftism....a religion unto itself.
The 'Left' would include every totalitarian belief, every political doctrine that stems from materialism/Marxism, that finds 'economic inequality' more important than identifying good and evil.

'Every Leftist is, essentially, a Marxist…even though most eschew the title since the fall of the Soviet Union. Even so, Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view. Philosophically, the term implies that only material things are real.'
Prager, chapter 1, “Still The Best Hope”



a. As one of his friends later recalled, "Vladimir Ilych Ulyanov (Lenin) had the courage to come out and say openly that famine would have numerous positive results...Famine, he explained....would bring about the next stage more rapidly, and usher in socialism, the stage that necessarily followed capitalism. Famine would also destroy faith, not only in the tsar, but in God, too." The Black Book of Communism, p.123-124.


b. 'There is no God':
This concept is an essential element of Marxism. As Lenin stated: "Atheism is a natural and inseparable portion of Marxism, of the theory and practice of Scientific Socialism."

If God exists and is in supreme command of the universe, He possesses discretionary power, and His actions cannot always be calculated accurately in advance. The whole edifice of Marxism collapses. When Marx and the Communists deny the existence of God, they simultaneously deny the authority of the Ten Commandments, the existence of absolute standards of right and wrong, of good and evil; and man is left on the playing fields of the universe without a referee, without a book of rules. The winning side in any conflict can decide on what rules of conduct to apply. Morality is the creation of the victor.
The Schwarz Report Essays

c. “Marxism reduced man to his animal wants and material needs….Marxism was a downward step from the human to the animal- a descent from civilization into barbarism, which is to say, from the worship of God to the worship of material things.”
Berman, “Terror and Liberalism,” p. 79.




The importance of religion, here, is that it give the value to human life, beginning in the idea of man created in God's image, and, therefore, each man's life is sacred.....as opposed to the materialism of communism, which shares no such concept.
Compare that view with this:

"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life." Leon Trotsky

Calling such a view 'childish' would be far too kind.

That was a very good insightful summary, thanks.

I am not a date setter (most Catholics are not) but does it not seem as though this world can not last much longer? Everywhere one looks the trends are bad, be it morals or war or economic potential collapse. Just the way people think of themselves and fail to think of others is a disturbing place to be.

The antidote will never be to convert the heathens, there will always be that "honorable" opposition. The only hope is for believers to truly take God seriously in their lives. We are not! Surely not in the more affluent Western nations. We are those materialistic, hedonistic denizens pretty much on the sidelines. Like I said, I am prayerful but not optimistic.

I'm even less optimistic than you are.

If the media is to be believed, there are some 65,915,796 morons who voted for a proven incompetent anti-American values demagogue.

The tipping point has been eclipsed....and we are simply basking in the afterglow of this once great nation.

You're even less optimistic because like so many hyper-religious, self-hating loons, you have an abiding need to project your defeatist, imminent doom mentality on others. Yours is a pathology of hate /self-hate wherein you want any and all around you to share your fears and self-loathing.

When it comes to godly matter you strike me as unwilling to comprehend.

The highest mission by far for the Church is the salvation of souls. Enter that into your formulas of goodness and importance.

 

[Hollie]

1. Actually....it's a question. 'Whose worldview is defined, characterized, by naive and impossible terms?'
Whose?



Now, I don't see any religious posters demanding that every person bend their knee to God, or attacking those who don't. But, daily, the bitter-haters go out of their way to denigrate believers, as believing in an 'invisible pixie in the sky," or as 'Bible-thumpers,' or using the pejorative 'Gawd.'

And here is the salient point: the majority of the sneering cult seem not to recognize not just a childishness of their own beliefs...
....but the downright danger to humanity of them.


2. Most of those jeering are totalitarians, mostly of the Liberal persuasion.
Theirs, the opposite view to the religious one, is Leftism....a religion unto itself.
The 'Left' would include every totalitarian belief, every political doctrine that stems from materialism/Marxism, that finds 'economic inequality' more important than identifying good and evil.

'Every Leftist is, essentially, a Marxist…even though most eschew the title since the fall of the Soviet Union. Even so, Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view. Philosophically, the term implies that only material things are real.'
Prager, chapter 1, “Still The Best Hope”



a. As one of his friends later recalled, "Vladimir Ilych Ulyanov (Lenin) had the courage to come out and say openly that famine would have numerous positive results...Famine, he explained....would bring about the next stage more rapidly, and usher in socialism, the stage that necessarily followed capitalism. Famine would also destroy faith, not only in the tsar, but in God, too." The Black Book of Communism, p.123-124.


b. 'There is no God':
This concept is an essential element of Marxism. As Lenin stated: "Atheism is a natural and inseparable portion of Marxism, of the theory and practice of Scientific Socialism."

If God exists and is in supreme command of the universe, He possesses discretionary power, and His actions cannot always be calculated accurately in advance. The whole edifice of Marxism collapses. When Marx and the Communists deny the existence of God, they simultaneously deny the authority of the Ten Commandments, the existence of absolute standards of right and wrong, of good and evil; and man is left on the playing fields of the universe without a referee, without a book of rules. The winning side in any conflict can decide on what rules of conduct to apply. Morality is the creation of the victor.
The Schwarz Report Essays

c. “Marxism reduced man to his animal wants and material needs….Marxism was a downward step from the human to the animal- a descent from civilization into barbarism, which is to say, from the worship of God to the worship of material things.”
Berman, “Terror and Liberalism,” p. 79.




The importance of religion, here, is that it give the value to human life, beginning in the idea of man created in God's image, and, therefore, each man's life is sacred.....as opposed to the materialism of communism, which shares no such concept.
Compare that view with this:

"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life." Leon Trotsky

Calling such a view 'childish' would be far too kind.

That was a very good insightful summary, thanks.

I am not a date setter (most Catholics are not) but does it not seem as though this world can not last much longer? Everywhere one looks the trends are bad, be it morals or war or economic potential collapse. Just the way people think of themselves and fail to think of others is a disturbing place to be.

The antidote will never be to convert the heathens, there will always be that "honorable" opposition. The only hope is for believers to truly take God seriously in their lives. We are not! Surely not in the more affluent Western nations. We are those materialistic, hedonistic denizens pretty much on the sidelines. Like I said, I am prayerful but not optimistic.

I'm even less optimistic than you are.

If the media is to be believed, there are some 65,915,796 morons who voted for a proven incompetent anti-American values demagogue.

The tipping point has been eclipsed....and we are simply basking in the afterglow of this once great nation.

You're even less optimistic because like so many hyper-religious, self-hating loons, you have an abiding need to project your defeatist, imminent doom mentality on others. Yours is a pathology of hate /self-hate wherein you want any and all around you to share your fears and self-loathing.

When it comes to godly matter you strike me as unwilling to comprehend.

The highest mission by far for the Church is the salvation of souls. Enter that into your formulas of goodness and importance.

I do comprehend. Ba'al is the true gawd.

That you have been deceived means your soul is in the hands of the false gawds. To the back of the line for you and your poser gawds.

 

[Hollie]

So since no one is perfect it apparently makes no difference to you how imperfect one is.

Not when Jesus has your back...

You are mistaken once again.

God is not summarized so simply.

Really? Then those two ciminals that he took to Heaven after dying on the cross were worry warts about God...??

Go ahead and try it.

God shows his mercy and truths in a myriad of ways. Chesterton said heresy is the over-emphasis of one teaching at the dismissal of others. Do you really think that is all the Word of God has to say to you?

Jesus is not God and God shows not only mercy but a wrath also...

De'heyzeus thinks otherwise.

John 10:30, “I and the Father are one.”

It seems that gawd jr. was an ambitious sort.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

1. Actually....it's a question. 'Whose worldview is defined, characterized, by naive and impossible terms?'
Whose?



Now, I don't see any religious posters demanding that every person bend their knee to God, or attacking those who don't. But, daily, the bitter-haters go out of their way to denigrate believers, as believing in an 'invisible pixie in the sky," or as 'Bible-thumpers,' or using the pejorative 'Gawd.'

And here is the salient point: the majority of the sneering cult seem not to recognize not just a childishness of their own beliefs...
....but the downright danger to humanity of them.


2. Most of those jeering are totalitarians, mostly of the Liberal persuasion.
Theirs, the opposite view to the religious one, is Leftism....a religion unto itself.
The 'Left' would include every totalitarian belief, every political doctrine that stems from materialism/Marxism, that finds 'economic inequality' more important than identifying good and evil.

'Every Leftist is, essentially, a Marxist…even though most eschew the title since the fall of the Soviet Union. Even so, Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view. Philosophically, the term implies that only material things are real.'
Prager, chapter 1, “Still The Best Hope”



a. As one of his friends later recalled, "Vladimir Ilych Ulyanov (Lenin) had the courage to come out and say openly that famine would have numerous positive results...Famine, he explained....would bring about the next stage more rapidly, and usher in socialism, the stage that necessarily followed capitalism. Famine would also destroy faith, not only in the tsar, but in God, too." The Black Book of Communism, p.123-124.


b. 'There is no God':
This concept is an essential element of Marxism. As Lenin stated: "Atheism is a natural and inseparable portion of Marxism, of the theory and practice of Scientific Socialism."

If God exists and is in supreme command of the universe, He possesses discretionary power, and His actions cannot always be calculated accurately in advance. The whole edifice of Marxism collapses. When Marx and the Communists deny the existence of God, they simultaneously deny the authority of the Ten Commandments, the existence of absolute standards of right and wrong, of good and evil; and man is left on the playing fields of the universe without a referee, without a book of rules. The winning side in any conflict can decide on what rules of conduct to apply. Morality is the creation of the victor.
The Schwarz Report Essays

c. “Marxism reduced man to his animal wants and material needs….Marxism was a downward step from the human to the animal- a descent from civilization into barbarism, which is to say, from the worship of God to the worship of material things.”
Berman, “Terror and Liberalism,” p. 79.




The importance of religion, here, is that it give the value to human life, beginning in the idea of man created in God's image, and, therefore, each man's life is sacred.....as opposed to the materialism of communism, which shares no such concept.
Compare that view with this:

"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life." Leon Trotsky

Calling such a view 'childish' would be far too kind.

That was a very good insightful summary, thanks.

I am not a date setter (most Catholics are not) but does it not seem as though this world can not last much longer? Everywhere one looks the trends are bad, be it morals or war or economic potential collapse. Just the way people think of themselves and fail to think of others is a disturbing place to be.

The antidote will never be to convert the heathens, there will always be that "honorable" opposition. The only hope is for believers to truly take God seriously in their lives. We are not! Surely not in the more affluent Western nations. We are those materialistic, hedonistic denizens pretty much on the sidelines. Like I said, I am prayerful but not optimistic.

I'm even less optimistic than you are.

If the media is to be believed, there are some 65,915,796 morons who voted for a proven incompetent anti-American values demagogue.

The tipping point has been eclipsed....and we are simply basking in the afterglow of this once great nation.

You're even less optimistic because like so many hyper-religious, self-hating loons, you have an abiding need to project your defeatist, imminent doom mentality on others. Yours is a pathology of hate /self-hate wherein you want any and all around you to share your fears and self-loathing.

It’s also consistent with the right’s gloom and doom misery offensive; if Obama were a republican everything would be sunshine and flowers.

 

[Carla_Danger]

1. Actually....it's a question. 'Whose worldview is defined, characterized, by naive and impossible terms?'
Whose?



Now, I don't see any religious posters demanding that every person bend their knee to God, or attacking those who don't. But, daily, the bitter-haters go out of their way to denigrate believers, as believing in an 'invisible pixie in the sky," or as 'Bible-thumpers,' or using the pejorative 'Gawd.'

And here is the salient point: the majority of the sneering cult seem not to recognize not just a childishness of their own beliefs...
....but the downright danger to humanity of them.




2. Most of those jeering are totalitarians, mostly of the Liberal persuasion.
Theirs, the opposite view to the religious one, is Leftism....a religion unto itself.
The 'Left' would include every totalitarian belief, every political doctrine that stems from materialism/Marxism, that finds 'economic inequality' more important than identifying good and evil.

'Every Leftist is, essentially, a Marxist…even though most eschew the title since the fall of the Soviet Union. Even so, Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view. Philosophically, the term implies that only material things are real.'
Prager, chapter 1, “Still The Best Hope”



a. As one of his friends later recalled, "Vladimir Ilych Ulyanov (Lenin) had the courage to come out and say openly that famine would have numerous positive results...Famine, he explained....would bring about the next stage more rapidly, and usher in socialism, the stage that necessarily followed capitalism. Famine would also destroy faith, not only in the tsar, but in God, too." The Black Book of Communism, p.123-124.


b. 'There is no God':
This concept is an essential element of Marxism. As Lenin stated: "Atheism is a natural and inseparable portion of Marxism, of the theory and practice of Scientific Socialism."

If God exists and is in supreme command of the universe, He possesses discretionary power, and His actions cannot always be calculated accurately in advance. The whole edifice of Marxism collapses. When Marx and the Communists deny the existence of God, they simultaneously deny the authority of the Ten Commandments, the existence of absolute standards of right and wrong, of good and evil; and man is left on the playing fields of the universe without a referee, without a book of rules. The winning side in any conflict can decide on what rules of conduct to apply. Morality is the creation of the victor.
The Schwarz Report Essays

c. “Marxism reduced man to his animal wants and material needs….Marxism was a downward step from the human to the animal- a descent from civilization into barbarism, which is to say, from the worship of God to the worship of material things.”
Berman, “Terror and Liberalism,” p. 79.




The importance of religion, here, is that it give the value to human life, beginning in the idea of man created in God's image, and, therefore, each man's life is sacred.....as opposed to the materialism of communism, which shares no such concept.
Compare that view with this:

"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life." Leon Trotsky

Calling such a view 'childish' would be far too kind.

So, what do you call conservatives who are also atheists?

Another failed thread from the OP.

I've always wondered how morons like you can offer a vapid, boring, tedious non-post, and feel satisfied.

You never bring anything to the table....and amble away muttering 'duh...yup. a..yup....'

Is it because you know you're working up to your ability?



Certainly commensurate with your job, as greeter at Wal-Mart.

Says Queen Cut N Paste of Crapola.

 

[Carla_Danger]

1. Actually....it's a question. 'Whose worldview is defined, characterized, by naive and impossible terms?'
Whose?



Now, I don't see any religious posters demanding that every person bend their knee to God, or attacking those who don't. But, daily, the bitter-haters go out of their way to denigrate believers, as believing in an 'invisible pixie in the sky," or as 'Bible-thumpers,' or using the pejorative 'Gawd.'

And here is the salient point: the majority of the sneering cult seem not to recognize not just a childishness of their own beliefs...
....but the downright danger to humanity of them.




2. Most of those jeering are totalitarians, mostly of the Liberal persuasion.
Theirs, the opposite view to the religious one, is Leftism....a religion unto itself.
The 'Left' would include every totalitarian belief, every political doctrine that stems from materialism/Marxism, that finds 'economic inequality' more important than identifying good and evil.

'Every Leftist is, essentially, a Marxist…even though most eschew the title since the fall of the Soviet Union. Even so, Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view. Philosophically, the term implies that only material things are real.'
Prager, chapter 1, “Still The Best Hope”



a. As one of his friends later recalled, "Vladimir Ilych Ulyanov (Lenin) had the courage to come out and say openly that famine would have numerous positive results...Famine, he explained....would bring about the next stage more rapidly, and usher in socialism, the stage that necessarily followed capitalism. Famine would also destroy faith, not only in the tsar, but in God, too." The Black Book of Communism, p.123-124.


b. 'There is no God':
This concept is an essential element of Marxism. As Lenin stated: "Atheism is a natural and inseparable portion of Marxism, of the theory and practice of Scientific Socialism."

If God exists and is in supreme command of the universe, He possesses discretionary power, and His actions cannot always be calculated accurately in advance. The whole edifice of Marxism collapses. When Marx and the Communists deny the existence of God, they simultaneously deny the authority of the Ten Commandments, the existence of absolute standards of right and wrong, of good and evil; and man is left on the playing fields of the universe without a referee, without a book of rules. The winning side in any conflict can decide on what rules of conduct to apply. Morality is the creation of the victor.
The Schwarz Report Essays

c. “Marxism reduced man to his animal wants and material needs….Marxism was a downward step from the human to the animal- a descent from civilization into barbarism, which is to say, from the worship of God to the worship of material things.”
Berman, “Terror and Liberalism,” p. 79.




The importance of religion, here, is that it give the value to human life, beginning in the idea of man created in God's image, and, therefore, each man's life is sacred.....as opposed to the materialism of communism, which shares no such concept.
Compare that view with this:

"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life." Leon Trotsky

Calling such a view 'childish' would be far too kind.

So, what do you call conservatives who are also atheists?

So....you are forced to agree with my posts?

Excellent.

Not hardly, dingbat. You seem to assume all atheists are liberal, which of course isn't true.

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. Actually....it's a question. 'Whose worldview is defined, characterized, by naive and impossible terms?'
Whose?



Now, I don't see any religious posters demanding that every person bend their knee to God, or attacking those who don't. But, daily, the bitter-haters go out of their way to denigrate believers, as believing in an 'invisible pixie in the sky," or as 'Bible-thumpers,' or using the pejorative 'Gawd.'

And here is the salient point: the majority of the sneering cult seem not to recognize not just a childishness of their own beliefs...
....but the downright danger to humanity of them.


2. Most of those jeering are totalitarians, mostly of the Liberal persuasion.
Theirs, the opposite view to the religious one, is Leftism....a religion unto itself.
The 'Left' would include every totalitarian belief, every political doctrine that stems from materialism/Marxism, that finds 'economic inequality' more important than identifying good and evil.

'Every Leftist is, essentially, a Marxist…even though most eschew the title since the fall of the Soviet Union. Even so, Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view. Philosophically, the term implies that only material things are real.'
Prager, chapter 1, “Still The Best Hope”



a. As one of his friends later recalled, "Vladimir Ilych Ulyanov (Lenin) had the courage to come out and say openly that famine would have numerous positive results...Famine, he explained....would bring about the next stage more rapidly, and usher in socialism, the stage that necessarily followed capitalism. Famine would also destroy faith, not only in the tsar, but in God, too." The Black Book of Communism, p.123-124.


b. 'There is no God':
This concept is an essential element of Marxism. As Lenin stated: "Atheism is a natural and inseparable portion of Marxism, of the theory and practice of Scientific Socialism."

If God exists and is in supreme command of the universe, He possesses discretionary power, and His actions cannot always be calculated accurately in advance. The whole edifice of Marxism collapses. When Marx and the Communists deny the existence of God, they simultaneously deny the authority of the Ten Commandments, the existence of absolute standards of right and wrong, of good and evil; and man is left on the playing fields of the universe without a referee, without a book of rules. The winning side in any conflict can decide on what rules of conduct to apply. Morality is the creation of the victor.
The Schwarz Report Essays

c. “Marxism reduced man to his animal wants and material needs….Marxism was a downward step from the human to the animal- a descent from civilization into barbarism, which is to say, from the worship of God to the worship of material things.”
Berman, “Terror and Liberalism,” p. 79.




The importance of religion, here, is that it give the value to human life, beginning in the idea of man created in God's image, and, therefore, each man's life is sacred.....as opposed to the materialism of communism, which shares no such concept.
Compare that view with this:

"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life." Leon Trotsky

Calling such a view 'childish' would be far too kind.

That was a very good insightful summary, thanks.

I am not a date setter (most Catholics are not) but does it not seem as though this world can not last much longer? Everywhere one looks the trends are bad, be it morals or war or economic potential collapse. Just the way people think of themselves and fail to think of others is a disturbing place to be.

The antidote will never be to convert the heathens, there will always be that "honorable" opposition. The only hope is for believers to truly take God seriously in their lives. We are not! Surely not in the more affluent Western nations. We are those materialistic, hedonistic denizens pretty much on the sidelines. Like I said, I am prayerful but not optimistic.

I'm even less optimistic than you are.

If the media is to be believed, there are some 65,915,796 morons who voted for a proven incompetent anti-American values demagogue.

The tipping point has been eclipsed....and we are simply basking in the afterglow of this once great nation.

To losers like yourself it does seem like a once great nation, but it still is a great nation....

I understand what a mistake it is to engage a moron like you...but, assuming that you understand the term 'loser'....

...would you elucidate on what basis you decided that the appellation fit me?

Was it simply an attempt to respond to my revealing that you are a moron?


I await your response with well concealed impatience.

 

[Moonglow]

1. Actually....it's a question. 'Whose worldview is defined, characterized, by naive and impossible terms?'
Whose?



Now, I don't see any religious posters demanding that every person bend their knee to God, or attacking those who don't. But, daily, the bitter-haters go out of their way to denigrate believers, as believing in an 'invisible pixie in the sky," or as 'Bible-thumpers,' or using the pejorative 'Gawd.'

And here is the salient point: the majority of the sneering cult seem not to recognize not just a childishness of their own beliefs...
....but the downright danger to humanity of them.


2. Most of those jeering are totalitarians, mostly of the Liberal persuasion.
Theirs, the opposite view to the religious one, is Leftism....a religion unto itself.
The 'Left' would include every totalitarian belief, every political doctrine that stems from materialism/Marxism, that finds 'economic inequality' more important than identifying good and evil.

'Every Leftist is, essentially, a Marxist…even though most eschew the title since the fall of the Soviet Union. Even so, Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view. Philosophically, the term implies that only material things are real.'
Prager, chapter 1, “Still The Best Hope”



a. As one of his friends later recalled, "Vladimir Ilych Ulyanov (Lenin) had the courage to come out and say openly that famine would have numerous positive results...Famine, he explained....would bring about the next stage more rapidly, and usher in socialism, the stage that necessarily followed capitalism. Famine would also destroy faith, not only in the tsar, but in God, too." The Black Book of Communism, p.123-124.


b. 'There is no God':
This concept is an essential element of Marxism. As Lenin stated: "Atheism is a natural and inseparable portion of Marxism, of the theory and practice of Scientific Socialism."

If God exists and is in supreme command of the universe, He possesses discretionary power, and His actions cannot always be calculated accurately in advance. The whole edifice of Marxism collapses. When Marx and the Communists deny the existence of God, they simultaneously deny the authority of the Ten Commandments, the existence of absolute standards of right and wrong, of good and evil; and man is left on the playing fields of the universe without a referee, without a book of rules. The winning side in any conflict can decide on what rules of conduct to apply. Morality is the creation of the victor.
The Schwarz Report Essays

c. “Marxism reduced man to his animal wants and material needs….Marxism was a downward step from the human to the animal- a descent from civilization into barbarism, which is to say, from the worship of God to the worship of material things.”
Berman, “Terror and Liberalism,” p. 79.




The importance of religion, here, is that it give the value to human life, beginning in the idea of man created in God's image, and, therefore, each man's life is sacred.....as opposed to the materialism of communism, which shares no such concept.
Compare that view with this:

"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life." Leon Trotsky

Calling such a view 'childish' would be far too kind.

That was a very good insightful summary, thanks.

I am not a date setter (most Catholics are not) but does it not seem as though this world can not last much longer? Everywhere one looks the trends are bad, be it morals or war or economic potential collapse. Just the way people think of themselves and fail to think of others is a disturbing place to be.

The antidote will never be to convert the heathens, there will always be that "honorable" opposition. The only hope is for believers to truly take God seriously in their lives. We are not! Surely not in the more affluent Western nations. We are those materialistic, hedonistic denizens pretty much on the sidelines. Like I said, I am prayerful but not optimistic.

I'm even less optimistic than you are.

If the media is to be believed, there are some 65,915,796 morons who voted for a proven incompetent anti-American values demagogue.

The tipping point has been eclipsed....and we are simply basking in the afterglow of this once great nation.

To losers like yourself it does seem like a once great nation, but it still is a great nation....

I understand what a mistake it is to engage a moron like you...but, assuming that you understand the term 'loser'....

...would you elucidate on what basis you decided that the appellation fit me?

Was it simply an attempt to respond to my revealing that you are a moron?


I await your response with well concealed impatience.

It's great country still since we don't kill coolies or cut off their tails...

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. Actually....it's a question. 'Whose worldview is defined, characterized, by naive and impossible terms?'
Whose?



Now, I don't see any religious posters demanding that every person bend their knee to God, or attacking those who don't. But, daily, the bitter-haters go out of their way to denigrate believers, as believing in an 'invisible pixie in the sky," or as 'Bible-thumpers,' or using the pejorative 'Gawd.'

And here is the salient point: the majority of the sneering cult seem not to recognize not just a childishness of their own beliefs...
....but the downright danger to humanity of them.




2. Most of those jeering are totalitarians, mostly of the Liberal persuasion.
Theirs, the opposite view to the religious one, is Leftism....a religion unto itself.
The 'Left' would include every totalitarian belief, every political doctrine that stems from materialism/Marxism, that finds 'economic inequality' more important than identifying good and evil.

'Every Leftist is, essentially, a Marxist…even though most eschew the title since the fall of the Soviet Union. Even so, Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view. Philosophically, the term implies that only material things are real.'
Prager, chapter 1, “Still The Best Hope”



a. As one of his friends later recalled, "Vladimir Ilych Ulyanov (Lenin) had the courage to come out and say openly that famine would have numerous positive results...Famine, he explained....would bring about the next stage more rapidly, and usher in socialism, the stage that necessarily followed capitalism. Famine would also destroy faith, not only in the tsar, but in God, too." The Black Book of Communism, p.123-124.


b. 'There is no God':
This concept is an essential element of Marxism. As Lenin stated: "Atheism is a natural and inseparable portion of Marxism, of the theory and practice of Scientific Socialism."

If God exists and is in supreme command of the universe, He possesses discretionary power, and His actions cannot always be calculated accurately in advance. The whole edifice of Marxism collapses. When Marx and the Communists deny the existence of God, they simultaneously deny the authority of the Ten Commandments, the existence of absolute standards of right and wrong, of good and evil; and man is left on the playing fields of the universe without a referee, without a book of rules. The winning side in any conflict can decide on what rules of conduct to apply. Morality is the creation of the victor.
The Schwarz Report Essays

c. “Marxism reduced man to his animal wants and material needs….Marxism was a downward step from the human to the animal- a descent from civilization into barbarism, which is to say, from the worship of God to the worship of material things.”
Berman, “Terror and Liberalism,” p. 79.




The importance of religion, here, is that it give the value to human life, beginning in the idea of man created in God's image, and, therefore, each man's life is sacred.....as opposed to the materialism of communism, which shares no such concept.
Compare that view with this:

"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life." Leon Trotsky

Calling such a view 'childish' would be far too kind.

So, what do you call conservatives who are also atheists?

Another failed thread from the OP.

I've always wondered how morons like you can offer a vapid, boring, tedious non-post, and feel satisfied.

You never bring anything to the table....and amble away muttering 'duh...yup. a..yup....'

Is it because you know you're working up to your ability?



Certainly commensurate with your job, as greeter at Wal-Mart.

Says Queen Cut N Paste of Crapola.

So you really have no answer, eh?

You rushed to this thread wanting so very badly to post a well thought out dispositive post.....
....and, instead....
Thou art weighed in the balances, and art found wanting.
Daniel 5:27

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. Actually....it's a question. 'Whose worldview is defined, characterized, by naive and impossible terms?'
Whose?



Now, I don't see any religious posters demanding that every person bend their knee to God, or attacking those who don't. But, daily, the bitter-haters go out of their way to denigrate believers, as believing in an 'invisible pixie in the sky," or as 'Bible-thumpers,' or using the pejorative 'Gawd.'

And here is the salient point: the majority of the sneering cult seem not to recognize not just a childishness of their own beliefs...
....but the downright danger to humanity of them.




2. Most of those jeering are totalitarians, mostly of the Liberal persuasion.
Theirs, the opposite view to the religious one, is Leftism....a religion unto itself.
The 'Left' would include every totalitarian belief, every political doctrine that stems from materialism/Marxism, that finds 'economic inequality' more important than identifying good and evil.

'Every Leftist is, essentially, a Marxist…even though most eschew the title since the fall of the Soviet Union. Even so, Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view. Philosophically, the term implies that only material things are real.'
Prager, chapter 1, “Still The Best Hope”



a. As one of his friends later recalled, "Vladimir Ilych Ulyanov (Lenin) had the courage to come out and say openly that famine would have numerous positive results...Famine, he explained....would bring about the next stage more rapidly, and usher in socialism, the stage that necessarily followed capitalism. Famine would also destroy faith, not only in the tsar, but in God, too." The Black Book of Communism, p.123-124.


b. 'There is no God':
This concept is an essential element of Marxism. As Lenin stated: "Atheism is a natural and inseparable portion of Marxism, of the theory and practice of Scientific Socialism."

If God exists and is in supreme command of the universe, He possesses discretionary power, and His actions cannot always be calculated accurately in advance. The whole edifice of Marxism collapses. When Marx and the Communists deny the existence of God, they simultaneously deny the authority of the Ten Commandments, the existence of absolute standards of right and wrong, of good and evil; and man is left on the playing fields of the universe without a referee, without a book of rules. The winning side in any conflict can decide on what rules of conduct to apply. Morality is the creation of the victor.
The Schwarz Report Essays

c. “Marxism reduced man to his animal wants and material needs….Marxism was a downward step from the human to the animal- a descent from civilization into barbarism, which is to say, from the worship of God to the worship of material things.”
Berman, “Terror and Liberalism,” p. 79.




The importance of religion, here, is that it give the value to human life, beginning in the idea of man created in God's image, and, therefore, each man's life is sacred.....as opposed to the materialism of communism, which shares no such concept.
Compare that view with this:

"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life." Leon Trotsky

Calling such a view 'childish' would be far too kind.

So, what do you call conservatives who are also atheists?

So....you are forced to agree with my posts?

Excellent.

Not hardly, dingbat. You seem to assume all atheists are liberal, which of course isn't true.

"You seem to assume all atheists are liberal,...."

You should learn to read with the same precision with which I post....

What I actually stated in the OP was this:
"....the majority of the sneering cult seem not to recognize not just a childishness of their own beliefs...
....but the downright danger to humanity of them."



I went further and defined Liberals as totalitarians as follows:

"Most of those jeering are totalitarians, mostly of the Liberal persuasion.
Theirs, the opposite view to the religious one, is Leftism....a religion unto itself.
The 'Left' would include every totalitarian belief, every political doctrine that stems from materialism/Marxism, that finds 'economic inequality' more important than identifying good and evil.

'Every Leftist is, essentially, a Marxist…even though most eschew the title since the fall of the Soviet Union. Even so, Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view. Philosophically, the term implies that only material things are real.'
Prager, chapter 1, “Still The Best Hope”


Seems you are one of the less astute to whom things must be explained repeatedly.
If stupidity were an element on the Periodic Chart, the symbol would be your picture.

 

[G.T.]

Yea, a religious worldview is very childish.

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. Actually....it's a question. 'Whose worldview is defined, characterized, by naive and impossible terms?'
Whose?



Now, I don't see any religious posters demanding that every person bend their knee to God, or attacking those who don't. But, daily, the bitter-haters go out of their way to denigrate believers, as believing in an 'invisible pixie in the sky," or as 'Bible-thumpers,' or using the pejorative 'Gawd.'

And here is the salient point: the majority of the sneering cult seem not to recognize not just a childishness of their own beliefs...
....but the downright danger to humanity of them.


2. Most of those jeering are totalitarians, mostly of the Liberal persuasion.
Theirs, the opposite view to the religious one, is Leftism....a religion unto itself.
The 'Left' would include every totalitarian belief, every political doctrine that stems from materialism/Marxism, that finds 'economic inequality' more important than identifying good and evil.

'Every Leftist is, essentially, a Marxist…even though most eschew the title since the fall of the Soviet Union. Even so, Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view. Philosophically, the term implies that only material things are real.'
Prager, chapter 1, “Still The Best Hope”



a. As one of his friends later recalled, "Vladimir Ilych Ulyanov (Lenin) had the courage to come out and say openly that famine would have numerous positive results...Famine, he explained....would bring about the next stage more rapidly, and usher in socialism, the stage that necessarily followed capitalism. Famine would also destroy faith, not only in the tsar, but in God, too." The Black Book of Communism, p.123-124.


b. 'There is no God':
This concept is an essential element of Marxism. As Lenin stated: "Atheism is a natural and inseparable portion of Marxism, of the theory and practice of Scientific Socialism."

If God exists and is in supreme command of the universe, He possesses discretionary power, and His actions cannot always be calculated accurately in advance. The whole edifice of Marxism collapses. When Marx and the Communists deny the existence of God, they simultaneously deny the authority of the Ten Commandments, the existence of absolute standards of right and wrong, of good and evil; and man is left on the playing fields of the universe without a referee, without a book of rules. The winning side in any conflict can decide on what rules of conduct to apply. Morality is the creation of the victor.
The Schwarz Report Essays

c. “Marxism reduced man to his animal wants and material needs….Marxism was a downward step from the human to the animal- a descent from civilization into barbarism, which is to say, from the worship of God to the worship of material things.”
Berman, “Terror and Liberalism,” p. 79.




The importance of religion, here, is that it give the value to human life, beginning in the idea of man created in God's image, and, therefore, each man's life is sacred.....as opposed to the materialism of communism, which shares no such concept.
Compare that view with this:

"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life." Leon Trotsky

Calling such a view 'childish' would be far too kind.

That was a very good insightful summary, thanks.

I am not a date setter (most Catholics are not) but does it not seem as though this world can not last much longer? Everywhere one looks the trends are bad, be it morals or war or economic potential collapse. Just the way people think of themselves and fail to think of others is a disturbing place to be.

The antidote will never be to convert the heathens, there will always be that "honorable" opposition. The only hope is for believers to truly take God seriously in their lives. We are not! Surely not in the more affluent Western nations. We are those materialistic, hedonistic denizens pretty much on the sidelines. Like I said, I am prayerful but not optimistic.

I'm even less optimistic than you are.

If the media is to be believed, there are some 65,915,796 morons who voted for a proven incompetent anti-American values demagogue.

The tipping point has been eclipsed....and we are simply basking in the afterglow of this once great nation.

To losers like yourself it does seem like a once great nation, but it still is a great nation....

I understand what a mistake it is to engage a moron like you...but, assuming that you understand the term 'loser'....

...would you elucidate on what basis you decided that the appellation fit me?

Was it simply an attempt to respond to my revealing that you are a moron?


I await your response with well concealed impatience.

It's great country still since we don't kill coolies or cut off their tails...

Let's mark that down as your definition of a great country.

Congrats! You've worked yourself all the way to "Triple Stupid"!

 

[Moonglow]

That was a very good insightful summary, thanks.

I am not a date setter (most Catholics are not) but does it not seem as though this world can not last much longer? Everywhere one looks the trends are bad, be it morals or war or economic potential collapse. Just the way people think of themselves and fail to think of others is a disturbing place to be.

The antidote will never be to convert the heathens, there will always be that "honorable" opposition. The only hope is for believers to truly take God seriously in their lives. We are not! Surely not in the more affluent Western nations. We are those materialistic, hedonistic denizens pretty much on the sidelines. Like I said, I am prayerful but not optimistic.

I'm even less optimistic than you are.

If the media is to be believed, there are some 65,915,796 morons who voted for a proven incompetent anti-American values demagogue.

The tipping point has been eclipsed....and we are simply basking in the afterglow of this once great nation.

To losers like yourself it does seem like a once great nation, but it still is a great nation....

I understand what a mistake it is to engage a moron like you...but, assuming that you understand the term 'loser'....

...would you elucidate on what basis you decided that the appellation fit me?

Was it simply an attempt to respond to my revealing that you are a moron?


I await your response with well concealed impatience.

It's great country still since we don't kill coolies or cut off their tails...

Let's mark that down as your definition of a great country.

Congrats! You've worked yourself all the way to "Triple Stupid"!

Yep, it's great when honkies are not pulling all the ropes...

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. Actually....it's a question. 'Whose worldview is defined, characterized, by naive and impossible terms?'
Whose?



Now, I don't see any religious posters demanding that every person bend their knee to God, or attacking those who don't. But, daily, the bitter-haters go out of their way to denigrate believers, as believing in an 'invisible pixie in the sky," or as 'Bible-thumpers,' or using the pejorative 'Gawd.'

And here is the salient point: the majority of the sneering cult seem not to recognize not just a childishness of their own beliefs...
....but the downright danger to humanity of them.




2. Most of those jeering are totalitarians, mostly of the Liberal persuasion.
Theirs, the opposite view to the religious one, is Leftism....a religion unto itself.
The 'Left' would include every totalitarian belief, every political doctrine that stems from materialism/Marxism, that finds 'economic inequality' more important than identifying good and evil.

'Every Leftist is, essentially, a Marxist…even though most eschew the title since the fall of the Soviet Union. Even so, Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view. Philosophically, the term implies that only material things are real.'
Prager, chapter 1, “Still The Best Hope”



a. As one of his friends later recalled, "Vladimir Ilych Ulyanov (Lenin) had the courage to come out and say openly that famine would have numerous positive results...Famine, he explained....would bring about the next stage more rapidly, and usher in socialism, the stage that necessarily followed capitalism. Famine would also destroy faith, not only in the tsar, but in God, too." The Black Book of Communism, p.123-124.


b. 'There is no God':
This concept is an essential element of Marxism. As Lenin stated: "Atheism is a natural and inseparable portion of Marxism, of the theory and practice of Scientific Socialism."

If God exists and is in supreme command of the universe, He possesses discretionary power, and His actions cannot always be calculated accurately in advance. The whole edifice of Marxism collapses. When Marx and the Communists deny the existence of God, they simultaneously deny the authority of the Ten Commandments, the existence of absolute standards of right and wrong, of good and evil; and man is left on the playing fields of the universe without a referee, without a book of rules. The winning side in any conflict can decide on what rules of conduct to apply. Morality is the creation of the victor.
The Schwarz Report Essays

c. “Marxism reduced man to his animal wants and material needs….Marxism was a downward step from the human to the animal- a descent from civilization into barbarism, which is to say, from the worship of God to the worship of material things.”
Berman, “Terror and Liberalism,” p. 79.




The importance of religion, here, is that it give the value to human life, beginning in the idea of man created in God's image, and, therefore, each man's life is sacred.....as opposed to the materialism of communism, which shares no such concept.
Compare that view with this:

"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life." Leon Trotsky

Calling such a view 'childish' would be far too kind.

So, what do you call conservatives who are also atheists?

Another failed thread from the OP.

I've always wondered how morons like you can offer a vapid, boring, tedious non-post, and feel satisfied.

You never bring anything to the table....and amble away muttering 'duh...yup. a..yup....'

Is it because you know you're working up to your ability?



Certainly commensurate with your job, as greeter at Wal-Mart.

All you bring is the same old stale bread....

Well....as it appears that you are the moth to my flame....
...stale bread must be a delicacy where you come from.


I used to save it for the pigeons....but now you can grovel ...I mean nibble at it.

 

[Moonglow]

1. Actually....it's a question. 'Whose worldview is defined, characterized, by naive and impossible terms?'
Whose?



Now, I don't see any religious posters demanding that every person bend their knee to God, or attacking those who don't. But, daily, the bitter-haters go out of their way to denigrate believers, as believing in an 'invisible pixie in the sky," or as 'Bible-thumpers,' or using the pejorative 'Gawd.'

And here is the salient point: the majority of the sneering cult seem not to recognize not just a childishness of their own beliefs...
....but the downright danger to humanity of them.




2. Most of those jeering are totalitarians, mostly of the Liberal persuasion.
Theirs, the opposite view to the religious one, is Leftism....a religion unto itself.
The 'Left' would include every totalitarian belief, every political doctrine that stems from materialism/Marxism, that finds 'economic inequality' more important than identifying good and evil.

'Every Leftist is, essentially, a Marxist…even though most eschew the title since the fall of the Soviet Union. Even so, Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view. Philosophically, the term implies that only material things are real.'
Prager, chapter 1, “Still The Best Hope”



a. As one of his friends later recalled, "Vladimir Ilych Ulyanov (Lenin) had the courage to come out and say openly that famine would have numerous positive results...Famine, he explained....would bring about the next stage more rapidly, and usher in socialism, the stage that necessarily followed capitalism. Famine would also destroy faith, not only in the tsar, but in God, too." The Black Book of Communism, p.123-124.


b. 'There is no God':
This concept is an essential element of Marxism. As Lenin stated: "Atheism is a natural and inseparable portion of Marxism, of the theory and practice of Scientific Socialism."

If God exists and is in supreme command of the universe, He possesses discretionary power, and His actions cannot always be calculated accurately in advance. The whole edifice of Marxism collapses. When Marx and the Communists deny the existence of God, they simultaneously deny the authority of the Ten Commandments, the existence of absolute standards of right and wrong, of good and evil; and man is left on the playing fields of the universe without a referee, without a book of rules. The winning side in any conflict can decide on what rules of conduct to apply. Morality is the creation of the victor.
The Schwarz Report Essays

c. “Marxism reduced man to his animal wants and material needs….Marxism was a downward step from the human to the animal- a descent from civilization into barbarism, which is to say, from the worship of God to the worship of material things.”
Berman, “Terror and Liberalism,” p. 79.




The importance of religion, here, is that it give the value to human life, beginning in the idea of man created in God's image, and, therefore, each man's life is sacred.....as opposed to the materialism of communism, which shares no such concept.
Compare that view with this:

"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life." Leon Trotsky

Calling such a view 'childish' would be far too kind.

So, what do you call conservatives who are also atheists?

Another failed thread from the OP.

I've always wondered how morons like you can offer a vapid, boring, tedious non-post, and feel satisfied.

You never bring anything to the table....and amble away muttering 'duh...yup. a..yup....'

Is it because you know you're working up to your ability?



Certainly commensurate with your job, as greeter at Wal-Mart.

All you bring is the same old stale bread....

Well....as it appears that you are the moth to my flame....
...stale bread must be a delicacy where you come from.


I used to save it for the pigeons....but now you can grovel ...I mean nibble at it.

You can blame it on retirement...

 

[PoliticalChic]

Materialism is Marxism, better tell that to the capitalist as that is how they make their coveted money..

"Historical materialism is a methodological approach to the study of human societies and their development over time first articulated by Karl Marx (1818–1883) as the materialist conception of history. It is principally a theory of history according to which the material conditions of a society's mode of production (its way of producing and reproducing the means of human existence - in Marxist terms, the union of its productive capacity and social relations of production) fundamentally determine its organisation and development."
Historical materialism - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia