A Scientist Visits Kentucky's Creation Museum

[Avatar4321]

How do you create something out of nothing?

doesn't matter. The scriptures don't teach that God created anything from nothing.

 

[Coloradomtnman]

How do you create something out of nothing?

How?

That is what science believes. The only way that can happen is God creating something from nothing.

That is not what Science believes.

Science is not about belief, it is about working models and accurate predictions. There may be scientists who believe that something came from nothing, but that is an unscientific belief.

Some religious people think its a ridiculous idea that something came from nothing, but then put forth an even more ridiculous idea: that God made something from nothing. Because that is the only answer of which they can conceive, it is the only possible answer.

 

[Coloradomtnman]

How do you create something out of nothing?

How?

You tell me. You're the rabbi.

Well I could assume a magic mythical being did it... or I could try to find an answer. What should I do?

A rabbi atheist. Oh mummah...

It's amongst a younger generation of cosmologists, string theorists and bubble universe theorists and the like, where problems with something out of nothing theories are proving most vexing.

Please don't assume to know what you're talking about without first educating yourself.

None of these cosmological models assumes that the starting point was nothing, and therefore something from nothing "theories" are not only not vexing but don't exist.

 

[FA_Q2]

It shows him briefly walking through some of the exhibits and interviewing one of the Museum's "scientists."



The "scientist" in the video says when he finds contradictory evidence to his beliefs he assumes that the evidence is incorrect. Is that science? Is this place bad for proponents of creationism and intelligent design? Should children be exposed to a place run by people who want to teach them that it's not only okay, but that it is important to ignore evidence?

teapartysamurai

Of course it's not science. "Should children be exposed" though? That is none of your concern. You do not dictate what silliness people want to believe or expose to their children.

 

[FA_Q2]

How do you create something out of nothing?

How?

That is what science believes. The only way that can happen is God creating something from nothing.

No, it is what religious people demand science 'believes' because you want to make science fit the same template of religion when it simply does not.

You need to understand that, unlike religion, science has absolutely zero compunction is stating 'we don't know.'


Where there are inconsistencies and insufficient information science simply states it dies not have an answer.

 

[PostmodernProph]

How do you create something out of nothing?

how do you and I do it or how does an omnipotent deity do it?........

 

[PratchettFan]

How do you create something out of nothing?

How?

That is what science believes. The only way that can happen is God creating something from nothing.

No, it is what religious people demand science 'believes' because you want to make science fit the same template of religion when it simply does not.

You need to understand that, unlike religion, science has absolutely zero compunction is stating 'we don't know.'


Where there are inconsistencies and insufficient information science simply states it dies not have an answer.

Which is a perfect example of the true strength of science and, at the same time, the strength of religion. Where we run into problems is when we mix the two things up. Creationism is an example of that.

 

[rdean]

How do you create something out of nothing?

How?

That is what science believes. The only way that can happen is God creating something from nothing.

That's what science believes? Are you sure?

 

[Avatar4321]

You guys have such a shallow understanding of both science and religion. You act as they are both some monolithic concepts that completely agree. Not all religions agree. Not all scientific theories agree.

until you guys begin to recognize nuances in human thought you won't get far in discussing it

 

[PratchettFan]

You guys have such a shallow understanding of both science and religion. You act as they are both some monolithic concepts that completely agree. Not all religions agree. Not all scientific theories agree.

until you guys begin to recognize nuances in human thought you won't get far in discussing it

Well, science is pretty monolithic. Scientists will certainly disagree, but science itself is really just a set of rules. Religion is a tad more complicated, but to be fair it is a lot older.

 

[Carla_Danger]

A magic sky wizard created the universe and all living things in just 6 days. Plus, those fossils were just put here to mislead us.

That makes much more sense.

 

[Carla_Danger]

I took a walk through it when it first opened. I must confess, I had a real hard time keeping from laughing out loud. A reeeeal hard time!

It's one thing to believe God created everything, but an entirely other thing to believe he did it 6,000 years ago and people hung out with dinosaurs.

Sarah rode hers to school.

 

[westwall]

You guys have such a shallow understanding of both science and religion. You act as they are both some monolithic concepts that completely agree. Not all religions agree. Not all scientific theories agree.

until you guys begin to recognize nuances in human thought you won't get far in discussing it

Well, science is pretty monolithic. Scientists will certainly disagree, but science itself is really just a set of rules. Religion is a tad more complicated, but to be fair it is a lot older.

"Science" is far from monolithic. It is a series of rules about how to observe the natural world and interact with it. That's all science is. It doesn't concern itself with morals or "truth", it is only concerned with facts, and the accurate gathering of them.

 

[PratchettFan]

You guys have such a shallow understanding of both science and religion. You act as they are both some monolithic concepts that completely agree. Not all religions agree. Not all scientific theories agree.

until you guys begin to recognize nuances in human thought you won't get far in discussing it

Well, science is pretty monolithic. Scientists will certainly disagree, but science itself is really just a set of rules. Religion is a tad more complicated, but to be fair it is a lot older.

"Science" is far from monolithic. It is a series of rules about how to observe the natural world and interact with it. That's all science is. It doesn't concern itself with morals or "truth", it is only concerned with facts, and the accurate gathering of them.

How is a standardized set of rules not monolithic?

 

[rdean]

You guys have such a shallow understanding of both science and religion. You act as they are both some monolithic concepts that completely agree. Not all religions agree. Not all scientific theories agree.

until you guys begin to recognize nuances in human thought you won't get far in discussing it

Not all scientific theories agree? What the fuck are you talking about? Give some examples. I need a good laugh.

 

[FA_Q2]

You guys have such a shallow understanding of both science and religion. You act as they are both some monolithic concepts that completely agree. Not all religions agree. Not all scientific theories agree.

until you guys begin to recognize nuances in human thought you won't get far in discussing it

Not all scientific theories agree? What the fuck are you talking about? Give some examples. I need a good laugh.

Quantum Mechanics and General Relativity.

 

[Avatar4321]

You guys have such a shallow understanding of both science and religion. You act as they are both some monolithic concepts that completely agree. Not all religions agree. Not all scientific theories agree.

until you guys begin to recognize nuances in human thought you won't get far in discussing it

Not all scientific theories agree? What the fuck are you talking about? Give some examples. I need a good laugh.

Quantum Mechanics and General Relativity.

I don't think he will understand you.

scientific theories and studies often contradict each other. Heck just look at the science on the climate. During the 60-70s the prevalent theory was that the planet was cooling and if we didn't adopt socialist policies we would be facing the next ice age. Then in the 80s-90s we are told the planet is warming. We need to adopt socialist policies to stop the planet from getting to warm. Now that the temperature has stopped going up it's called climate change and get the theories that we are warming the planet so quickly that we are going to enter the next ice age.

science is constantly evolving. Take the science in computer technology. In three months current scientific knowledge will be outdated it's changing so fast.

so many of the fools who create this false rivalry between science and religion dont understand science or religion.

God lives. He created natural law. And He has given us the ability to understand it. It's time we acknowledge His hand in giving us the light and knowledge we have received before we end up back in the dark ages like rdean and his friends

 

[Iceweasel]

None of these cosmological models assumes that the starting point was nothing, and therefore something from nothing "theories" are not only not vexing but don't exist.

Theoretical models aren't science, Einstein. They may be part of a discussion but they are not evidence, fact or anything but conversation.

You are entitled to your opinion but arrogance doesn't make you look smart. If you prefer to believe there was no first cause and that the universe, or the potential, always existed, but God couldn't have always existed then you are as faithful as any theist.

 

[PratchettFan]

None of these cosmological models assumes that the starting point was nothing, and therefore something from nothing "theories" are not only not vexing but don't exist.

Theoretical models aren't science, Einstein. They may be part of a discussion but they are not evidence, fact or anything but conversation.

You are entitled to your opinion but arrogance doesn't make you look smart. If you prefer to believe there was no first cause and that the universe, or the potential, always existed, but God couldn't have always existed then you are as faithful as any theist.

Theoretical models are science.

 

[Iceweasel]

Theoretical models are science.

Wrong.

Science - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
: the state of knowing : knowledge as distinguished from ignorance or misunderstanding
2
a : a department of systematized knowledge as an object of study <the science of theology>

b : something (as a sport or technique) that may be studied or learned like systematized knowledge <have it down to a science>
3
a : knowledge or a system of knowledge covering general truths or the operation of general laws especially as obtained and tested through scientific method

b : such knowledge or such a system of knowledge concerned with the physical world and its phenomena : natural science
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