ChrisL
Diamond Member
I have indulged in no appeal to emotion, son.
You were too busy indulging in your false equivalencies and looking up other people's opinions to notice, however.
I realize that you are ignorant as to the structural and doctrinal differences between Islam, Christianity and Judaism, here, and I realize you are motivated by a desire to sound exactly like all your little peeps but just because you are ignorant, that does not mean they are all the same.
The scope, prevalence and severity of the misogyny inherent and practiced in the three religions is so different that a person would have to be monumentally ignorant to defend Islam as being little different from the other two.
.....and yes, it IS about Islam here, oh politically correct child.
Nope. It isn't. Read the title --- it's about HBV. "Islam" was brought in as an irrelevant red herring. Were we to choose a different red herring according to the Two Minutes Hate of a different day, we could invoke Hinduism or Sikhism. It would still be the same fallacy as describing a Klan lynching as a "Christian" practice.
This is about simple logic.
Lying does not win an argument, son, no matter how simple your views.
Indeed it doesn't. That's why you're losing.
This happened as an application of Islamic justice. Now, I realize you are extremely conformist and trying to protect Islam because of your fear of saying anything not pre-approved by your little peeps but to claim this isn't about Islam is downright stupid.
Did it now/Am I now.
If this is "Islamic justice", pray what the fuck is it when it takes place in India? Or ancient Rome? Or medieval England?
“If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and, though they discipline him, will not listen to them, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gate of the place where he lives, and they shall say to the elders of his city, ‘This our son is stubborn and rebellious; he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard.’ Then all the men of the city shall stone him to death with stones. So you shall purge the evil from your midst, and all Israel shall hear, and fear. " -- Deutoronomy 21
"Whoever blasphemes the name of the Lord shall surely be put to death. All the congregation shall stone him. The sojourner as well as the native, when he blasphemes the Name, shall be put to death." -- Leviticus 24
"And as they were stoning Stephen, he called out, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.” And falling to his knees he cried out with a loud voice, “Lord, do not hold this sin against them.” And when he had said this, he fell asleep." --- Acts 7
"While the people of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man gathering sticks on the Sabbath day. And those who found him gathering sticks brought him to Moses and Aaron and to all the congregation. They put him in custody, because it had not been made clear what should be done to him. And the Lord said to Moses, “The man shall be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp.” And all the congregation brought him outside the camp and stoned him to death with stones, as the Lord commanded Moses." --- Numbers 15
“A man or a woman who is a medium or a necromancer shall surely be put to death. They shall be stoned with stones; their blood shall be upon them.” --- Leviticus 20
"You shall stone him to death with stones, because he sought to draw you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery." -- Deuteronomy 20
---- Old Testes. Centuries before Mohammed ever existed. A millennium at least.
Linear time, Dumbass. Cultural practice, QED.
I love the way Moses specifies "they shall stone him with stones". In case anybody was thinking of stoning him with, say, ice cream sammiches.
So, you are quoting the Old Testament, yet saying that these practices are not based on religious beliefs? Lol.
It's a time marker. If you're aware of when the OT was written, it predates Mohammed by a good thousand years. And the accounts tell us the practice was already in use then. Therefore it's impossible for Mohammed to have just made it up. There's also a reference in the NT where it's going on. None of these introduce the idea of social control execution as a new thing -- it's already a practice.
And specifically the case here (cause) is an HBV execution, which is not only prohibited by the Quran, it's far far FAR older. And I'm repeating the same thing now for the umpteenth time.
Sorry, but that is pointless. The people who practice these forms of punishment are doing so in the name of their religious beliefs. Nothing else really matters.