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just for giggles, let's assume that you are reporting what you and I wrote accurately. You are ready to say that I claimed ""no one says anything bad about the Palestinians"" because I disagreed that nay one trashes anyone 24/7? Wow.I said you fuckers trash the Palestinians 24/7 and you disagreed! That is total horseshit!
no, you didn't read it. If you had, you would have seen the presentation of facts...not stuff you can disagree with.Yes I did read it and I disagree with what it said. You fuckers moved into the area and drove out 750,000 Palestinians off their farms with Zionist terrorist groups like Irgun.
You took more land than you were given by the Mandate.
I like pissing you off.Do you like being ignorant and parading it? We DO have terms like Neo-Nazi which differentiate it from other Nazism. If you want to make an equivalence, then you should start by saying "both terms are umbrella labels which include a variety of presentations and ideologies". Then you can try to identify and be more specific. Or not. Just stay ignorant.
That's right! You disagreeing with that is like saying the emperor has new clothes!just for giggles, let's assume that you are reporting what you and I wrote accurately. You are ready to say that I claimed ""no one says anything bad about the Palestinians"" because I disagreed that nay one trashes anyone 24/7? Wow.
Here's a tip for you, if you really want to know what Zionist means ask a Palestinian, I mean if I wanted to know what Nazi means I'd ask a Jew not a German, it's simple, stop pretending to be an intellectual.actually, they are both, but nice try.
There is no definition for "democracy"? Don't tell the dictionary writers. They seem to think otherwise. The fact that there are different dictionaries could be used to fuel the argument that "there are no universally agreed upon standard definitions for any words." Is that your position?
No, in practice they are manifest in differing presentations. The attributes are the same.
Neither claim is a fact and if your foundation is error, your conclusions are erroneous.
So not only are you confusing policies and ideology, but you are taking liberties with both history and current events. But whatever...
Maybe that's just because you don't know what "zionist" means and is.
So you have decided the end and therefore the means must be bad. But since your vision of the end is wrong, your sense of the means is likewise wrong.
Yes, exactly -- autonomy for the Jewish nation.
You completely misunderstand that article and jump to a conclusion that you like but which is illogical.
I told you, liar, I read it and I think it's a load of Zionist bullshit!no, you didn't read it. If you had, you would have seen the presentation of facts...not stuff you can disagree with.
Who says Rosends is an Israeli?Oh look, the fucking liar speaks? And what does the lying Islamophobe say? He says "no one says anything bad about the Palestinians"
No shit! You can't make this up! What this Israeli piece of shit is telling us, is that the emperor has new clothes!
Look again. I gave a thoughtful response to your #966 in my #975. (I didn't comment on all the blacksmithing stuff, cool, but not really my cup of tea).When I wrote my comment #966, I clarified positions and sentiments in great detail but your only response has been a line and a half of snarky lies.
Au contraire, it is the Palestinians that are the bastard children of the marriage between Islamism and Nazism.You really love to use the language of the Gestapo, subhuman animals, you need to burn that copy of Mein Kampf.
Ha ha ha. You are fulla shat. The land has always been Jewish ancestral and biblical land.No they aren't... Not at all. The Palestinians didn't migrate into Palestine as refugees . They have always been there. They are gentle and apolitical...not rabid nationalists.
They lived with Christians and native Jews for a thousand years.
If you had really refuted any of the facts I've both written and supported you could give examples.
Since you have not, naturally, you can't.
The Jewish people were the only recipients of the territory of the Mandate for Palestine (after Jordan was carved off).Yes I did read it and I disagree with what it said. You fuckers moved into the area and drove out 750,000 Palestinians off their farms with Zionist terrorist groups like Irgun.
You took more land than you were given by the Mandate.
Could you clarify which part of the (1922) mandate text states this?The Jewish people were the only recipients of the territory of the Mandate for Palestine (after Jordan was carved off).
Again, which part of the mandate text describes "divisions"?What, exactly, are you using to support your assertion that the Mandate territory was further divided?
Preamble, Articles 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 11.Could you clarify which part of the (1922) mandate text states this?
It doesn't. That's the point. One territory.Again, which part of the mandate text describes "divisions"?
Here are those sections in redPreamble, Articles 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 11.
Preamble
The Council of the League of Nations: Whereas the Principal Allied Powers have agreed, for the purpose of giving effect to the provisions of Article 22 of the Covenant of the League of Nations, to entrust to a Mandatory selected by the said Powers the administration of the territory of Palestine, which formerly belonged to the Turkish Empire, within such boundaries as may be fixed by them; and Whereas the Principal Allied Powers have also agreed that the Mandatory should be responsible for putting into effect the declaration originally made on November 2nd, 1917, by the Government of His Britannic Majesty, and adopted by the said Powers, in favour of the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, it being clearly understood that nothing should be done which might prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country; and Whereas recognition has thereby been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country; and Whereas the Principal Allied Powers have selected His Britannic Majesty as the Mandatory for Palestine; and Whereas the mandate in respect of Palestine has been formulated in the following terms and submitted to the Council of the League for approval; and Whereas His Britannic Majesty has accepted the mandate in respect of Palestine and undertaken to exercise it on behalf of the League of Nations in conformity with the following provisions; and Whereas by the aforementioned Article 22 (paragraph 8), it is provided that the degree of authority, control or administration to be exercised by the Mandatory, not having been previously agreed upon by the Members of the League, shall be explicitly defined by the Council of the League of Nations; Confirming the said mandate, defines its terms as follows:
Article 2
The Mandatory shall be responsible for placing the country under such political, administrative and economic conditions as will secure the Mandate for Palestine - League of Nations (12 August 1922)2establishment of the Jewish national home, as laid down in the preamble, and the development of self-governing institutions, and also for safeguarding the civil and religious rights of all the inhabitants of Palestine, irrespective of race and religion.
Article 4
An appropriate Jewish agency shall be recognised as a public body for the purpose of advising and co-operating with the Administration of Palestine in such economic, social and other matters as may affect the establishment of the Jewish national home and the interests of the Jewish population in Palestine, and, subject always to the control of the Administration, to assist and take part in the development of the country. The Zionist Organisation, so long as its organisation and constitution are in the opinion of the Mandatory appropriate, shall be recognised as such agency. It shall take steps in consultation with His Britannic Majesty's Government to secure the co-operation of all Jews who are willing to assist in the establishment of the Jewish national home.
Article 5
The Mandatory shall be responsible for seeing that no Palestine territory shall be ceded or leased to, or in any way placed under the control of, the Government of any foreign Power.
Article 6
The Administration of Palestine, while ensuring that the rights and position of other sections of the population are not prejudiced, shall facilitate Jewish immigration under suitable conditions and shall encourage, in co-operation with the Jewish agency referred to in Article4, close settlement by Jews on the land, including State lands and wastelands not required for public purposes.
Article 7
The Administration of Palestine shall be responsible for enacting a nationality law. There shall be included in this law provisions framed so as to facilitate the acquisition of Palestinian citizenship by Jews who take up their permanent residence in Palestine.
Article 11
The Administration of Palestine shall take all necessary measures to safeguard the interests of the community in connection with the development of the country, and, subject to any international obligations accepted by the Mandatory, shall have full power to provide for public ownership or control of any of the natural resources of the country or of the public works, services and utilities established or to be established therein. It shall introduce a land system appropriate to the needs of the country, having regard, among other things, to the desirability of promoting the close settlement and intensive cultivation of the land. The Administration may arrange with the Jewish agency mentioned in Article 4 to construct or operate, upon fair and equitable terms, any public works, services and utilities, and to develop any of the natural resources of the country, in so far as these matters are not directly undertaken by the Administration. Any such arrangements shall provide that no profits distributed by such agency, directly or indirectly, shall exceed a reasonable rate of interest on the capital, and any further profits shall be utilised by it for the benefit of the country in a manner approved by the Administration.
I don't see any other recipients.I see nothing that can be described as "The Jewish people were the only recipients of the territory".
The word "recipient" is not anywhere in the text.I don't see any other recipients.
You need to check Zionist terror groups even when we were fighting Hitler, the Stern gang tried to work with the Nazis to attack the British in Palestine, they also had a plan to kill Churchill.Au contraire, it is the Palestinians that are the bastard children of the marriage between Islamism and Nazism.
Hitler's Mufti
Recent work by historians and apologists has revealed that an influential, international religious leader was also an ardent supporter of Adolf Hitler. His name was not Pope Pius XII but Hajj Amin al-Husseini.www.catholic.com
You are so ridiculously pedantic.The word "recipient" is not anywhere in the text.
Yes, I can be.You are so ridiculously pedantic.
Preamble: Establishes the historical connection of the Jewish people to the land; calls for the re-constitution of the Jewish national home; calls for the establishment of a Jewish national home.
Whereas recognition has thereby been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country;
Article 7 does not say that at all, it saysArticle 2: Calls for self-governing institutions in the realms of politics, administration, and economic conditions for the Jewish national home.
Article 4: Calls for a Jewish Agency to advise the British Mandate to establish a Jewish national home.
Article 5: Reaffirms that no foreign power shall have control in that territory.
Article 7: Establishes the right of Jewish people to citizenship of the Jewish national homeland.
There shall be included in this law provisions framed so as to facilitate the acquisition of Palestinian citizenship by Jews who take up their permanent residence in Palestine.
Article 11: Assigns the Jewish Agency the rights to full power to operate public works, services, utilities, and to manage the natural resources (governmental powers).
These rights and powers to develop a self-governed Jewish national homeland with the powers of a government are assigned to the Jewish people. No other peoples are given these rights.
