ACORN Baltimore -- flat-out corruption on display.

[Intense]

If it hasnt been mentioned already, the two workers were fired.

It was mentioned and of course they were.

Where is the head of the snake?

I think that it's more a hive. A Hive of Pod People.

 

[Intense]

If it hasnt been mentioned already, the two workers were fired.

Yes, putting completely to rest all the idiotic cries of "this was STAGED!!!!"

A stance ACORN itself never dared take.

Let's not let it overshadow the Acorn Arrests today in Florida, though, I don't think it was staged at all. Just list the Felonies. We need to be Vigilant, and Sure footed. You are making a Good point.

 

[Oddball]

So, are we still waiting on the RDBS to come storming in and try to 'splain this one away, with something other than the already debunked "they're actors" nonsense?

 

[Intense]

The community organizing group ACORN has fired two employees at its Baltimore office who were seen on hidden-camera video giving advice to a man posing as a pimp and a woman pretending to be a prostitute, as some legal experts raise questions over whether the employees broke the law.

The staffers appeared to commit federal tax fraud by offering to help them — for a fee — to establish a child brothel, legal experts say.

In a video made public Thursday, two visitors to an ACORN office in Baltimore told staffers they needed assistance securing housing where the woman, a 20-year-old who called herself "Kenya," could continue to run her prostitution business.

An ACORN official told the couple how to falsify tax forms and seek illegal benefits for 13 "very young" girls from El Salvador that they said they wanted to import as prostitutes.

Though no tax forms were filed and the child prostitutes didn't exist, the ACORN official engaged in "numerous acts of criminal facilitation," said Judge Andrew Napolitano, FOX News senior judicial analyst.



"Criminal facilitation occurs whenever a person encourages, enables, entices, or explains to another how to commit crimes with the real purpose of helping that person to commit those crimes" — a violation the ACORN employee "committed in full," he said.

Napolitano said the worker could also face charges for criminal conspiracy, though each charge would require a heavier burden to prove: a so-called "act of furtherance" — a concrete move that makes the conspiracy active.

Napolitano outlined eight crimes the ACORN worker could potentially have committed that could bring a total sentence of 24 years in prison, including criminal facilitation and conspiracy to:

• (a) commit prostitution

• (b) operate a prostitution ring

• (c) file false documents with taxing and other government authorities


• (d) file false documents with a bank [also known as bank fraud]

• (e) violate numerous immigration laws

• (f) transport children into the U.S. for immoral purposes

• (g) transport women into the U.S. for immoral purposes [also known as violating the Mann Act]

• (h) impair the welfare of minors.

But not all legal experts agreed that ACORN had committed a crime. Trial attorney Lee Armstong said that the employee had engaged in "repulsive ... disgusting behavior," but nothing illegal occurred because the entire scenario was a sham.

"For aiding and abetting tax evasion, for aiding and abetting child prostitution ... you need the actual crime," said Armstrong, an attorney for Jones Day in New York. "That's what's missing here."

Armstrong said that the videotape appeared to show the ACORN official hatching a conspiracy, but no violation occurred because the 25-year-old filmmaker was only "pretending" to be a 25-year-old pimp.

"You need an actual agreement between two people to commit a crime. If one person is just faking it, you don't have a meeting of the minds, you don't have a conspiracy," Armstrong told FOX News. "How do you clap with one hand?"


ACORN — the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now — calls itself a network of families "working together for social justice and stronger communities," according to its Web site.

But the organization has been accused by conservatives and Republicans of committing fraud in voter registration drives around the country, and reaction to the videotape came swiftly after its release on Thursday.

"Taxpayers should be outraged that their money has gone to an organization that, in addition to facing charges of voter fraud and tax violations, is willing to facilitate prostitution," said Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa.

"As this video confirms, ACORN continues to operate as a criminal enterprise."

In a selection from the video, ACORN officials treated the "pimp's" illegal schemes with nonchalance and offered to help further what they knew to be crimes.

"It's illegal. So I am not hearing this, I am not hearing this," said an ACORN staffer who identified herself as an accountant. "You talk too much. Don't give up no information you're not asked."

Because the group receives millions of dollars in federal grants, Napolitano said, "ACORN agents and employees are required by law to adhere to high standards of lawful and ethical behavior; standards akin to those required by law of federal employees."

ACORN suggested a plan of action for the purported pimp and prostitute, but did not fill out tax forms with any false information. But because the official sought a $50 fee for ACORN's services, a conspiracy charge could still be considered, a defense attorney told FOX News.

"Conspiracy requires an agreement to do something unlawful and an act in furtherance," said Mark Eiglarsh, a New York-based attorney. "There's an agreement to assist in creating the brothel, in tax evasion, a number of other offenses."

The act in furtherance, he suggested, could be the staffer's seeking payment for the work. "I think that a prosecutor ... would agree to go forward on a conspiracy count," he said.

Whether or not prosecutors charge any ACORN officials in Baltimore, the filmmaker himself could be in hot water.

A Maryland state statute requires consent from all parties whenever a conversation is taped, according to the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press. Violations of the law are punishable by a maximum of five years in jail and a fine up to $10,000.

But that statute does not apply to videotape recordings — only to phone calls or other electronic "communications," Napolitano argued — meaning the filmmaker is likely in the clear.




2 ACORN Employees Fired, Could Face Criminal Charges - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News - FOXNews.com

 

[Midnight Marauder]

So, are we still waiting on the RDBS to come storming in and try to 'splain this one away, with something other than the already debunked "they're actors" nonsense?

I did notice the usual gang of leftiod idiots are carefully avoiding this thread, instead they are posting repeated mindless threads about "right wing radio" and Palin. Clearly the talking point finally went out, to avoid this topic, and instead flood message boards with as much old bullshit as possible.

Because no one could possibly come off as looking in any way intelligent while trying to defend this. So, they simply ignore it and hope it will go away soon.

 

[Intense]

Know that ACORN will not hesitate to do damage control. We need to watch vigilantly, and be careful of set ups and pit falls. Validate. Validate. Validate.

 

[Liability]

A friend on this Board, I probably ought to not mention the dude's handle, made an interesting observation to me privately a short time ago.

That observation is that LIBS seem to be unable (unwilling) to come here to this terrific thread. (The observation was something along those lines, anyway!)

So, I have chosen to ATTEMPT to help the libs out and rectify this egregious problem:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/1505385-post1.html

 

[CrusaderFrank]

This is why I put Bush in the same category as Robert Hanson, Benedict Arnold and Aldrich Ames.

He should have stopped ALL funding to ACORN And prosecuted them under RICO shutting them the fuck down!

Whatever you think of the Italian Crime families they NEVER rigged election and threatened our democracy like ACORN does yet ACORN gets pass after pass.

 

[Maple]

Hidden camera session, where ACORN workers show what they think is a hooker and a pimp how to break several federal laws, including support for importing underage girls from El Salvador to work in this country as prostitutes. Watch and learn:

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Getting them financing for a brothel. Hiding the illegal, "imported" girls as dependents. Couching prostitution as "performance art."

Is ACORN corrupt, a criminal organization from the top down?

Yeah and didn't we give them another 2 billion or something like that in the no stimulus stimulus bill. What a job creator or saver or whatever.

 

[Oddball]

http://www.usmessageboard.com/curre...bots-focus-time-for-acorn-damage-control.html

 

[CrusaderFrank]

But if ACORN didn't encourage underage prostitution how could Dems build their base?

 

[Liability]

But if ACORN didn't encourage underage prostitution how could Dems build their base?

Imports!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

So the sole purpose of ACORN is to put these 13 year prostitutes on the Voter rolls as Democrats, amiright?

 

[Oddball]

But if ACORN didn't encourage underage prostitution how could Dems build their base?

More dead people?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

But if ACORN didn't encourage underage prostitution how could Dems build their base?

More dead people?

I see dead people...they're voting for hope and change

 

[pete]

I cant beleive other media outlets have no mention of it.
Its freaking amazing ....

So would you call acorn bribery? with all the phoney payoffs

 

[CrusaderFrank]

So this is what Obama did as a Community Organizer, no wonder we're so fucked

 

[xotoxi]

I'm not sure how this affects me personally...but thanks for sharing.

The prostitute actress was rather hot.

 

[Liability]

I'm not sure how this affects me personally...but thanks for sharing.

The prostitute actress was rather hot.

She looked okay from behind, anyway, even if that particular short skirt wasn't flattering.

I wonder if ACORN volunteers taking the CENSUS will be equally dedicated to the precepts of the LAW!?

 

[Si modo]

I can't say whether I know what a pimp looks like or not, but I'm hard-pressed to think a real one looks like Huggy Bear. Those women are not only crooked, but stoooopid.