Albert Einstein: Why Socialism?

[bripat9643]

Bripat, why are you continuing to avoid responding to this post? What's the problem?

I'm just glad everyone can see the bitch you are on full display.

I don't know which policies Heritage used to make their determinations. I trust their judgement. You can learn what you want to know at their website.

Of course, we all know you just want to use the same tactic you used when I said Singapore was a good example of a market economy and you tried to claim that meant I supported its healthcare system.

Try your sleazy tactics on someone who is willing to play those games.

I'll throw you a bone and post one thing Heritage says about Australia:

Australia Economy: Population, GDP, Inflation, Business, Trade, FDI, Corruption

Australia has a 1.8 percent average tariff rate. The government has reduced tariff and non-tariff barriers both unilaterally and through negotiated trade agreements. Foreign investment in a few “sensitive sectors” is limited. The open financial sector is highly competitive and well-developed. All banks are privately owned, and prudent regulations have allowed them to withstand the global financial turmoil with little disruption.

You can read the rest at the link posted.

Oh good, the bitch comes crawling back.

So you "don't know which policies Heritage uses to make their determinations" but you do know that "the higher up on the list, the less socialism". How do you know that? Does Heritage say that anywhere? Or perhaps, you got caught talking directly out of your ass like you always do?

So you picked Australia as being "less socialist" than our country. Let's take a look. This is all taken from your source, that way you can't go bashing my data.

Taxes - Australia’s top individual tax rate is 45 percent, and the top corporate tax rate is 30 percent. Other taxes include a value-added-tax (VAT) and a capital gains tax. The carbon tax has been abandoned for a cap-and-trade system. The overall tax burden has fallen to 25.6 percent of GDP.

Energy - A carbon pricing scheme encourages consumers to use alternative energy sources that otherwise would not be economically viable.

Those sound "less socialist" than what we have here? Do you advocate we adopt those "freer" policies in the U.S.?

And finally, you mention the tariff rate, Australia and the U.S. have very comparable tariff rates so I don't know what you think you were proving by posting that. Actually, yes I do. You read each of the bullet points on the Heritage site about why Australia is "freer" than the U.S. and realized that none of them supported your asinine statement that the higher on the list, the less the socialism, so you went with the only one you possibly could post without looking like the complete uneducated asshole that we both know that you are.

So maybe it's time for you to admit you don't know what the fuck you're talking about and have literally no clue what socialism means.

If that were the only criteria used to determine the amount of economic freedom, then it would be more socialistic than the United States, you fucking dolt. However, taxes are only one of the criteria. You deliberately ignored the rest because you're a dishonest scumbag. It's pointless to argue with people who can't be honest.

As indicated, the overall tax burden in Australia is lower than in the United States

Australia Economy: Population, GDP, Inflation, Business, Trade, FDI, Corruption

The overall tax burden has fallen to 25.6 percent of GDP. Government spending amounts to 35.3 percent of total domestic output, and public debt remains at 27.6 percent of GDP.

Your sleazy attempts to focus on one or two details and base the entire comparison on that aren't fooling anyone aside from other brainwashed Obama dick sucking drones like you

 

[RDD_1210]

I don't know which policies Heritage used to make their determinations. I trust their judgement. You can learn what you want to know at their website.

Of course, we all know you just want to use the same tactic you used when I said Singapore was a good example of a market economy and you tried to claim that meant I supported its healthcare system.

Try your sleazy tactics on someone who is willing to play those games.

I'll throw you a bone and post one thing Heritage says about Australia:

Australia Economy: Population, GDP, Inflation, Business, Trade, FDI, Corruption



You can read the rest at the link posted.

Oh good, the bitch comes crawling back.

So you "don't know which policies Heritage uses to make their determinations" but you do know that "the higher up on the list, the less socialism". How do you know that? Does Heritage say that anywhere? Or perhaps, you got caught talking directly out of your ass like you always do?

So you picked Australia as being "less socialist" than our country. Let's take a look. This is all taken from your source, that way you can't go bashing my data.

Taxes - Australia’s top individual tax rate is 45 percent, and the top corporate tax rate is 30 percent. Other taxes include a value-added-tax (VAT) and a capital gains tax. The carbon tax has been abandoned for a cap-and-trade system. The overall tax burden has fallen to 25.6 percent of GDP.

Energy - A carbon pricing scheme encourages consumers to use alternative energy sources that otherwise would not be economically viable.

Those sound "less socialist" than what we have here? Do you advocate we adopt those "freer" policies in the U.S.?

And finally, you mention the tariff rate, Australia and the U.S. have very comparable tariff rates so I don't know what you think you were proving by posting that. Actually, yes I do. You read each of the bullet points on the Heritage site about why Australia is "freer" than the U.S. and realized that none of them supported your asinine statement that the higher on the list, the less the socialism, so you went with the only one you possibly could post without looking like the complete uneducated asshole that we both know that you are.

So maybe it's time for you to admit you don't know what the fuck you're talking about and have literally no clue what socialism means.

If that were the only criteria used to determine the amount of economic freedom, then it would be more socialistic than the United States, you fucking dolt. However, taxes are only one of the criteria. You deliberately ignored the rest because you're a dishonest scumbag. It's pointless to argue with people who can't be honest.

As indicated, the overall tax burden in Australia is lower than in the United States

Australia Economy: Population, GDP, Inflation, Business, Trade, FDI, Corruption

The overall tax burden has fallen to 25.6 percent of GDP. Government spending amounts to 35.3 percent of total domestic output, and public debt remains at 27.6 percent of GDP.

Your sleazy attempts to focus on one or two details and base the entire comparison on that aren't fooling anyone aside from other brainwashed Obama dick sucking drones like you

You're right, taxes are not the only criteria. There are PLENTY of other facets we could look at, yet you refuse to name any. Tariffs, that's all you pointed out and that literally did nothing to prove your point. Literally nothing.

Pick any topic and show me how we are more socialist in approach than Australia.

Healthcare
Gun Control
Military
Education
Etc...

Go for it champ, back up your bullshit for once.

You're an utter embarrassment at this point with how bad you are being shown to be the loud mouth idiot that everyone knows you are.

 

[MikeK]

It is a mistake to think in terms of "socialism" as a dominant political system in America. And it's a worse mistake to believe laissez-faire (unrestrained) capitalism is a good economic system for America.

The best system for America is what we had until "Reaganomics" was imposed on us. That was a capitalist system which was kept in control by certain socialist regulations. That well regulated system give rise to the American Middle Class and prevailed over the most prosperous and productive decades in our history -- from the 40s to the 80s. From there it declined. Reaganomics.

We do not want socialism or communism, so don't pay attention to that fanatical nonsense. What we want, and need, is a capitalist system with the same socialist regulations in place that protected us from the 40s to the 80s. Those regulations were removed by Reagan, Clinton, and Bush, and they must be replaced!

You cannot provide a single example of a free market economy that actually does any of the things you insist ever single time we have a free market economy, while I can point to numerous examples of socialist economies that end up exactly the way I say they do. Yet, for some reason, I am the crazy guy that ignores facts.

There is no purely free economy today. There's a reason for that. All systems need some sort of "socialism" to be effective. Name any country you think is a success and there is plenty of "socialism" to point to. Go ahead, give it a try.

Denmark is widely known as the happiest place on Earth. And Denmark is a 100% socialist nation.

Denmark: The Happiest Place on Earth - ABC News

 

[bedowin62]

You cannot provide a single example of a free market economy that actually does any of the things you insist ever single time we have a free market economy, while I can point to numerous examples of socialist economies that end up exactly the way I say they do. Yet, for some reason, I am the crazy guy that ignores facts.

There is no purely free economy today. There's a reason for that. All systems need some sort of "socialism" to be effective. Name any country you think is a success and there is plenty of "socialism" to point to. Go ahead, give it a try.

Denmark is widely known as the happiest place on Earth. And Denmark is a 100% socialist nation.

Denmark: The Happiest Place on Earth - ABC News

the whole country has the population of like new york city

ur a joke

 

[bedowin62]

wow; reading the rants of self-hating left-wing nutjobs one could get the impression people arent literally dying to get to this country; dying in southern high desert on our border; dying in flimsy rafts off of florida; and millions waiting patiently to get in here legally and be "exploited" by our "evil" system

shows you what the idiotic Left really thinks of the people they pander to; they think they're stupid


idiots and hypocrites

 

[RDD_1210]

You cannot provide a single example of a free market economy that actually does any of the things you insist ever single time we have a free market economy, while I can point to numerous examples of socialist economies that end up exactly the way I say they do. Yet, for some reason, I am the crazy guy that ignores facts.

There is no purely free economy today. There's a reason for that. All systems need some sort of "socialism" to be effective. Name any country you think is a success and there is plenty of "socialism" to point to. Go ahead, give it a try.

Denmark is widely known as the happiest place on Earth. And Denmark is a 100% socialist nation.

Denmark: The Happiest Place on Earth - ABC News

EVERY 1st world nation that anyone can consider as successful has more elements of socialism governing their our country than the U.S. does. Every single one.

 

[MikeK]

There is no purely free economy today. There's a reason for that. All systems need some sort of "socialism" to be effective. Name any country you think is a success and there is plenty of "socialism" to point to. Go ahead, give it a try.

Denmark is widely known as the happiest place on Earth. And Denmark is a 100% socialist nation.

Denmark: The Happiest Place on Earth - ABC News

the whole country has the population of like new york city

So what?

Does Denmark's 100% socialist system mean no level of socialist policy can impart a positive effect on a nation the size of ours -- as had been the case throughout the 40s, 50s, 60s, and 70s, before Reagan, Bush-1, Clinton, and Bush-2 quietly and incrementally sabotaged our socialist-influenced and highly successful economy by removing all the regulations which had prevented the kind of Wall Street and banking maneuvers that nearly collapsed the economy, which decimated the unions, and which has all but totally eliminated the middle class?

Yours is a mentality which sees nothing wrong with tossing out the baby with the bath-water. Because the U.S. is too big to successfully adopt a full-scale socialist policy your eyes are closed to the potential benefit of specific socialist policies in certain areas where their effect is known to have been supremely beneficial. The U.S. was in the economic catbird seat right up to the 1980s (Reaganomics). It's been downhill from there.

Stop listening to Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck. They are multi-millionaire propagandists who serve the interests of institutions which depend on people like you remaining in the dark.

That's not an insult. It's a simple fact.