Alec Baldwin Indicted

[horselightning]

He fucking KILLED a woman you asshole!

you tell him

 

[horselightning]

Who in the bloody hell put a live round in that single action Colt replica? Was Baldwin their boss? Do liberals know anything about guns?

yes he was he was the producer and should know everything thats going on. plus should not be stupid enough not to know gun safety.

 

[horselightning]

Oh? Had he not pointed the gun at her and cocked the hammer and then pulled the trigger, would she still be alive?

and the second director would not have been wounded

 

[Foxfyre]

It wasn't inadvertent. He cooked the hammer. Pointed the weapon. And then pulled the trigger.

Three separate acts. One of which, pointing the gun at her, is forbidden by every rule of gun safety.

The original story was he was practicing a cross draw while sitting in a church pew for a scene in the movie. And the gun was handed to him by another guy who told him it was a 'cold gun' meaning not loaded with live ammo. So yes, the process would be to draw, cock, point, shoot.

So I don't know. I just know in my heart that Baldwin did not expect or intend to kill anyone. Did he have the responsibility to check the gun? Maybe. But certainly so did the prop guy. So I don't know. Hopefully he'll get a fair trial with a competent judge and jury and justice will be impartial and fair on this one.

 

[westwall]

The original story was he was practicing a cross draw while sitting in a church pew for a scene in the movie. And the gun was handed to him by another guy who told him it was a 'cold gun' meaning not loaded with live ammo. So yes, the process would be to draw, cock, point, shoot.

So I don't know. I just know in my heart that Baldwin did not expect or intend to kill anyone. Did he have the responsibility to check the gun? Maybe. But certainly so did the prop guy. So I don't know. Hopefully he'll get a fair trial with a competent judge and jury and justice will be impartial and fair on this one.

According to him, Hutchins told him to point the gun at her, which is absurd. She might have told him to point it at the camera, which would have been a normal screen shot, but there is no way in hell that she would have told him to point it at her.

He then changed his story to claim that he never pulled the trigger. Forensic testing proved that to be a lie as well.

Mike Papac is a friend of mine. Known him for 40 years or so, he is a gun guy in Hollywood, and I have been on set with him many times. I even assisted him once.

The armorer that Baldwin hired is an idiot. She was trying to curry favor with the crew by allowing them to shoot after the days filming was done.

That is a HUGE violation of the rules. In Hollywood having a single live round on set will get you fired immediately, and say goodbye to your Union membership.

Additionally, NO ONE, but the armorer, and the actor handles the weapon. PERIOD! The armorer keeps it in their hand until the shot is set up and when you hear "rolling" you hand the weapon to the actor, the film shot is done, and IMMEDIATELY, the armorer retrieves the weapon.

That is how it has been done for decades. This production did NONE of that.

Baldwin knew they were shooting after filming so HE, as producer is ultimately responsible for the failure to follow well established procedures.

Procedures that he knows very well.

So, yes, based on the totality of what is known, and believe me, the crew that quit were not surprised that this happened, Alec is absolutely responsible for killing her. Had he simply followed Rule One (and it is number one for this very reason), she would still be alive.

 

[chesswarsnow]

Sorry bout that,

1. Some one put that bullet in the barrel of the gun, safe to say it wasn't any of those who were shot.
2. Who loaded the weapon of the real bullet?
3. Can it be proven, the Baldwin did?
4. He was the last to handle, it before it went off, and killed someone.
5. Lets see if a portion, of the video, film, has him doing something, to this pistol, right before he shoots the girl?
6. I just want to truth to come out, having no dog in this race.
7. If its there where he was all alone with this gun, tinkering with it, I'd have to say he killed that girl.
8. Anyway lets investigate.
9. His SNL days are over, and the girls days are over, her life can't be given back, his money will be shared to her family, but it wont bring her back, anyway you look at it, he killed this girl, and he should have to pay.
10. If it can be proven he had time (alone) with this gun, he murdered the girl.
11. Lets see all the film, and note any gaps.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

 

[westwall]

The original story was he was practicing a cross draw while sitting in a church pew for a scene in the movie. And the gun was handed to him by another guy who told him it was a 'cold gun' meaning not loaded with live ammo. So yes, the process would be to draw, cock, point, shoot.

So I don't know. I just know in my heart that Baldwin did not expect or intend to kill anyone. Did he have the responsibility to check the gun? Maybe. But certainly so did the prop guy. So I don't know. Hopefully he'll get a fair trial with a competent judge and jury and justice will be impartial and fair on this one.

According to him, Hutchins told him to point the gun at her, which is absurd. She might have told him to point it at the camera, which would have been a normal screen shot, but there is no way in hell that she would have told him to point it at her.

He then changed his story to claim that he never pulled the trigger. Forensic testing proved that to be a lie as well.

Mike Papac is a friend of mine. Known him for 40 years or so, he is a gun guy in Hollywood, and I have been on set with him many times. I even assisted him once.

The armorer that Baldwin hired is an idiot. She was trying to curry favor with the crew by allowing them to shoot after the days filming was done.

That is a HUGE violation of the rules. In Hollywood having a single live round on set will get you fired immediately, and say goodbye to your Union membership.

Additionally, NO ONE, but the armorer, and the actor handles the weapon. PERIOD! The armorer keeps it in their hand until the shot is set up and when you here "rolling" you hand the weapon to the actor, the film shot is done, and IMMEDIATELY, the armorer retrieves the weapon.

That is how it has been done for decades. This production did NONE of that.

Baldwin knew they were shooting after filming so HE, as producer is ultimately responsible for the failure to follow well established procedures.

Procedures that he knows very well.

So, yes, based on the totality of what is known, and believe me, the crew that quit were not surprised that this happened, Alec is absolutely responsible for killing her. Had he simply followed Rule One (and it is number one for this very reason), she would still be live.

Sorry bout that,

1. Some one put that bullet in the barrel of the gun, safe to say it was any of those who were shot.
2. Who loaded the weapon of the real bullet?
3. Can it be proven the Baldwin did?
4. He was the last to handle it before it went off and killed someone.
5. Lets see if a portion of the video has him doing something to this pistol right before he shots the girl?
6. I just want to truth to come out, having no dog in this race.
7. If its there where he was all alone with this gun, tinkering with it, I'd have to say he killed that girl.
8. Anyway lets investigate.
9. His SNL days are over, and the girls days are over, her life can't be given back, his money will be shared to her family, but it wont bring her back, anyway you look at it, he killed this girl, and he should have to pay.
10. If it can be proven he had time with this gun, he murdered the girl.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

It didn't "went off". HE, pulled the trigger. HE cocked it....and HE pointed it at her.

That makes HIM culpable.

 

[JoeB131]

You know nothing about firearm safety. Hell, boy, you are scared shitless of firearms. That is why you sound like an idiot.

11 years in the army as a 76Y. I have no problem with handling weapons.

I do have a big problem with weapons in the hands of people who never would have passed a psych evaluation to get into the military.

This has nothing to do with the fact that Baldwin was handed a prop gun by a qualified professional armorer and had every reason to believe it wasn't loaded.

 

[JoeB131]

Regardless of the constant back and forth on whether he will be convicted of a crime.

Alec Balwin aimed a gun at another person and pulled the trigger and will have to live with the fact he killed another human being for the rest of his life.

The irony being he has killed more people than 99.9% of those he demonizes politically.

I think the issue here is INTENT.

It's sad this accident happened because of OTHER PEOPLE'S negligence, but Baldwin didn't intend to kill anyone. Laura Bush didn't intend to kill her boyfriend in a car accident, either, but stuff happens.

Meanwhile, you clown wank off every day about your desire to kill minorities and government employees. The fact that most of you don't have the testicles to act on it doesn't take away from what is in your nasty minds.

 

[JoeB131]

Baldwin knew they were shooting after filming so HE, as producer is ultimately responsible for the failure to follow well established procedures.

He was only listed as a producer because he was starring in the film. He had no logistical control of the set.

 

[petro]

Only morons call it a prop gun.
Obviously it was a very real gun.

If Baldwin doesn't feel responsible for his action on killing another human being, he is a bigger douche than anyone gives him credit for.

 

[JoeB131]

Only morons call it a prop gun.
Obviously it was a very real gun.

If Baldwin doesn't feel responsible for his action on killing another human being, he is a bigger douche than anyone gives him credit for.

It was a prop in a movie, and it was not supposed to be loaded with live ammo.

I am still waiting to find out who put live ammo in it. (Probably some yahoos shooting cans or something.)

Look, man, I know Balwin upset you by mocking the ONE TRUE GOD, Donald Trump, Cheetoh Jesus himself.

But... not seeing murder or manslaughter here. I'm seeing an accident caused by someone else's negligence.

 

[surada]

He is charged with manslaughter in connection with the shooting on the movie set of Rust. It is time he faced justice.

Alec Baldwin Indicted on Manslaughter Charge in ‘Rust’ Shooting

Alec Baldwin has been charged as prosecutors again seek to hold him responsible for the death of 'Rust' cinematographer Halyna Hutchins.

variety.com

Halyna Hutchins
Ukrainian cinematographer

Halyna Anatoliivna Hutchins was a Ukrainian cinematographer. She worked on more than 30 feature-length films, short films, and TV miniseries, including the films Archenemy, Darlin', and Blindfire.
Wikipedia
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Wikipedia
Born
April 10, 1979
Horodets', Ukraine
Died
October 21, 2021
UNM Hospital,

 

[petro]

It was a prop in a movie, and it was not supposed to be loaded with live ammo.

I am still waiting to find out who put live ammo in it. (Probably some yahoos shooting cans or something.)

Look, man, I know Balwin upset you by mocking the ONE TRUE GOD, Donald Trump, Cheetoh Jesus himself.

But... not seeing murder or manslaughter here. I'm seeing an accident caused by someone else's negligence.

Yeah. Baldwin's negligence.
He gets to live with the fact he has killed more people than a Trump supporter.

Not addressing the rest of your broadbrushing TDS infected nonsense.
Typically why I pass on 90% of the contrarian bullshit you post.

 

[2aguy]

They had been shooting those play guns. That's why some of the crew quit.

They had been shooting those guns with live ammunition, not blanks, at different points during the shoot, and that is forbidden in prop handling.........you never mix real bullets with fake......just ask Brandon Lee...

 

[2aguy]

And the procedures on set are to NEVER point a gun at someone, even during the filming of the shot.

He's going down. But not long enough.

I can see why liberals are against people owning guns. With irresponsible people like Baldwin shooting people with a total disregard to human life, I would almost agree with them LOL

Likely 18 months, if that, with probation.......

 

[surada]

They had been shooting those guns with live ammunition, not blanks, at different points during the shoot, and that is forbidden in prop handling.........you never mix real bullets with fake......just ask Brandon Lee...

I know. Brandon Lee wasn't killed by a live bullet, was he?

 

[surada]

Brandon Lee - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

In a film shoot prior to the fatal scene, the gun that was used as a prop (a real revolver) was loaded with improperly made dummy rounds, improvised from live cartridges that had the powder charges removed by the special effects crew, so in close-ups the revolver would show normal-looking ammunition. However, the crew neglected to remove the primers from the cartridges, and at some point before the fatal event, one of the rounds had been fired. Although there were no powder charges, the energy from the ignited primer was enough to separate the bullet from the casing and push it part-way into the gun barrel, where it got stuck—a dangerous condition known as a squib load.

 

[Flash]

11 years in the army as a 76Y. I have no problem with handling weapons.

I do have a big problem with weapons in the hands of people who never would have passed a psych evaluation to get into the military.

This has nothing to do with the fact that Baldwin was handed a prop gun by a qualified professional armorer and had every reason to believe it wasn't loaded.

Gun safety cannot be outsourced. It is always the responsibility of the person with the finger on the trigger.

The only exception to that is children. If a child shoot somebody then the responsible party is the parent that allowed the child to have access to the firearm.

 

[22lcidw]

I think the issue here is INTENT.

It's sad this accident happened because of OTHER PEOPLE'S negligence, but Baldwin didn't intend to kill anyone. Laura Bush didn't intend to kill her boyfriend in a car accident, either, but stuff happens.

Meanwhile, you clown wank off every day about your desire to kill minorities and government employees. The fact that most of you don't have the testicles to act on it doesn't take away from what is in your nasty minds.

Nations die from malaise. No one has to attack and kill for this to happen. And we are slowly dying now. Spring and summer have passed, and we are either in autumn or the start of winter in the country cycle. Our politicians sold us out many many decades ago over a period of decades. The killing will take care of itself when it gets here. At this point unless we renew ourselves in some way there are some endings. All not so good. There are cracks in the Western Hemisphere that are widening between nations. That is a warning. And we are taken in a lot of their citizens from failed socialist policies.