Almost 140 serious injuries to Capitol Cops

[Faun]

From the video I saw it looks like a bad shoot. Again, the one glaring thing was the presence of heavily armed officers on the SAME SIDE OF THE DOOR as the woman shot.

All that needs to be proven is that a rational person would have reasonable fear that the violent mob on the other side of the door presented an imminent danger to the officers and Congress members who were vastly outnumbered.

There is no real case against him.

Trump should apologize to her family for poisoning her mind.

He shot one unarmed woman that was trying to go through a door, and there were other officers on the same side as her.

I think the most glaring thing is he could have hit the other officers.

What difference does it make that there were other officers on her side of the door? How did they prevent her from trying to gain access to lawmakers on the other side?

 

[Faun]

What matters is he took the shot(s) and somehow there is no investigation results or even updates on the investigation.

Sounds like you’ve convicted him already.

Dont pretend like you want an investigation. You want an outcome.

Sounds familiar.

From the video I saw it looks like a bad shoot. Again, the one glaring thing was the presence of heavily armed officers on the SAME SIDE OF THE DOOR as the woman shot.

A bad shoot?? What are you saying, the cops on her side of the door should have shot her?

I'm saying if those cops didn't feel threatened when they were on the protesters side of the door, why did the guy with the pistol feel threatened?

They weren't protecting lawmakers inside the House chamber; whereas the cop who shot Ashli Targetpractice was. They had guns drawn on her and the door barricaded. Who knows why she insisted on making her way into the chamber?

 

[colfax_m]

I don't vilify disagreement, I vilify cheerleading of silencing, and you are a cheerleader of that.

Ah; that’s why you went after three clueless meteorologists without knowing anything about them other than the fact that they disagreed with Trump.

Your actions speak louder than your worthless lies.

 

[Faun]

It's about the Truth, something you wouldn't want to hear if there was fraud, because again, you got what you wanted.

Seems like you don’t have a response what I actually wrote so you just keep repeating the same thing.

“The truth” was decided before the election. Trump won.

I am not saying he won with 100% certainty, I am saying I have unanswered questions on the results in several States, due to perceived shenanigans in Democrat controlled areas that resulted in a Biden "win"

He is. That’s what he’s been saying since BEFORE THE ELECTION.

This alone should tell you anything they say is extremely suspect. The perception of shenanigans is meaningless.

Again, it's only meaningless to you because you are a moronic political hack who got what you want, with Biden's cum dripping off your lips.

The perception is what matters to the millions of people who think like I do.

The perception is based on lies that people believe because Trump has severely damaged this country’s grasp on reality including yours.

You can no longer tell the difference between what is true and what you want to be true.

The perception is based on the belief that dems will do anything to win, and don't care how they do it. It's based on 4 years of them calling Trump the antichrist and expecting us to think they WOULD NEVER cheat to get rid of him.

It's based on loosening vote security using the excuse of COVID and then the votes coming in from that loosening being the ones that won it for Biden.

Quick! Somebody call that rightard a waaaaaaambulance!

Crybaby, all presidents get that treatment. Obama got it for 8 years. Bush got it for most of 8 years before that, except for the year between 9/11 and him idiotically launching a war in Iraq.

And despite your tears, it was your side who stormed the Capitol in search of politicians to kill and hoping to kill, or at least delay, certifying the election for Biden. Nothing, and I do mean nothing at all, justifies that treasonous, heinous crime against the United States of America. Your side is now the side of America's enemy.

And yet all the neighborhoods burning for months, not a word.

One day and you clowns are still overreacting to it because it suits your political interest, and it is easier to demonize than confront.

Crybaby, those neighborhoods have nothing to do with the insurrection on the Capitol. Whatabout much?

Yeah, no worries they have insurance.

It's not whataboutism when it points out the lefts hypocrisy on protests.

It's whataboutism when you stretch for something that has absolutely nothing to do with the attack on the Capitol. That seditious insurrection was because of the rights' demented views of the election and nothing at all to do with BLM or Antifa riots.

But I understand. There is no defense for what your fellow righties did to our Capitol so you try to blunt the force of that assault with other meaningless whataboutisms.

No, it's going apeshit over 1 day versus months of civil unrest because you support the months of civil unrest and see the one day as a political foil to use.

Again, matters not because one has nothing to do with the other. Using your bizarre logic, it's ok that BLM rioted because rightwingnuts protested in Charlottesville and murdered a woman. One thing has nothing to do with the other.

It's not that, it's about your overreaction to what happened in the capitol and your not caring about what happened in the rest of the country, because people you don't like did one, and people you like did the other.

You're an idiot, Marty. I condemned BLM and Antifa violence. And there is no overreacting to the attack on the Capitol. It was an assault on our country. If another country had done that to us, we'd be at war with them today.

"condemned"


And yet you want to prosecute anyone for just being near the capitol, and to up their crimes to political ones.

It was a protest that got out of hand, that did no permanent damage, and was over in a few hours.

The BLM/anti-fa insurgence is continuing, has ruined people businesses and homes, and will continue with your support.

It's telling that you care more about government than people, I guess when someone attacks your god, you get defensive.

Again, you're an idiot, Marty. I never said I wanted to prosecute anyone just for being near the Capitol. And yes, it did cause permanent damage. People died because of it. That's permanent. That the building survived does not trivialize the enormity of the assault. And while you post how leftwing violence is continuing, which I continue to condemn, so is rightwing violence. The right's desire to continue attacking our government did not end on 1/6. They're still planning more attacks. The National Guard had to swarm into DC to prevent an attack on or around Biden's inauguration. They're not done yet.

"condemn"

meanwhile you keep trying to make the Capitol thing the new Reichstag fire, an excuse to remove your political opponents.

Trump directly told the people marching to be peaceful, yet you want to impeach him for the actions of others.

That alone shows what a slimy hack you are.

You desire for government controlling all is still there, you fucking commie cocksucker.

You're an idiot, Marty. The fucking commie cocksuckers are the ones who attacked our country on 1/6. If you loved America, you would hate them for what they did.

Nope, you stand for the SJW idiocy in this country, it's all yours you quisling fucktard.

LOL

You're an idiot, Marty. Those seditionists who attacked our country and tried to stop the certification of our election -- are on your side of the aisle.

One day, and delayed it by a few hours.

Meanwhile in SJW land the protests continue, by the same people over and over and SJW cucks like you cheer it on.

You're an idiot, Marty. How many days did the British spend ransacking our Capitol during the War of 1812? Did we let them off the hook cause it took them less than a day?

So we are still enemies of the British hundreds of years later?

And it figures you bring up an actual war, it just shows you can't see anyone who disagrees with you as a fellow American, just as an enemy to be destroyed.

Thanks for clearing that up, you fascist fucking cum bucket.

No go suck off Dr Love while being pegged by Colfuck.

You're an idiot, Marty. Your side wasn't merely disagreeing with mine when they stormed the Capitol and tried to prevent the certification of a presidential election -- they were attacking my government, my election and my country. That makes them an enemy of America, as Britain was during the War of 1812.

And all they did was manage to delay the process a few hours, while lefty protesters actually destroyed government property in a far more permanent way, and interfere with the actions of local law enforcement that impacts regular people far more than a few hours of delay.

Keep calling your fellow citizens enemies, and when the shit hits the fan we will see who ends up on the dock.

It matters not that their "stop the steal" insurrection failed them. They still attacked the seat of our government. And only by the grace of G-d did they not murder any lawmakers.

They were walking around next to multiple security people inside, as well as staffers. None of them were killed.

The only person killed in the building was a protester, and that's being whitewashed.

They stormed the Capitol with the intent to murder lawmakers and "stop the steal." That they failed to accomplished either doesn't mitigate what they did.

Some of them may have said that, but please show me actual words spoken to that effect.

Dumbfuck...

So I assume all the anti-fa/BLM protesters who talk about killing cops are held to the same standard by you right?

When progressives speak of violence, it's speech, when non progressives do it, it's actual violence, nice double standard you have there.

You're an idiot, Marty. They weren't just saying it. They were trying to do it. Only because Pence managed to escape, did they fail. In the meantime, they constructed a gallows and they broke into the Capitol hunting for the VP (and others).

Your analogy, which like you, is a failure, would only be applicable if someone from BLM broke into a cop's house and threatened to kill the cop who lives there. Savvy? It's not just speech but it's the actions which accompany it.

That "gallow" was a prop that couldn't have hung a Barbie doll.

I guess when anti-fa started rolling around a guillotine that's just "symbolic"

Again, it's their actions, not just their words. They wanted to hang the VPOTUS. You seem to be giving them a pass because their mission failed.

 

[Faun]

The only person killed in the building was a protester, and that's being whitewashed.

Trump’s horde of idiots trampled a woman to death too.

Not that any of you give a shit.

Was that in the building or outside the building?

That was leading into the doorway where police were fighting to keep that seditious mob out.

While others were inside, some doing vandalism, others just walking around, and the only death inside was of one of the protesters.

They weren't just "walking around" when that woman was killed. They were storming the Capitol. She got crushed as that mob forced their way in.

storming, mob, all buzzwords used to make it sound worse than it was.

Meanwhile any progressive riot is labelled as "mostly peaceful"

Without double standards, your side wouldn't have any standards.

It's their words. You can't wish them away.

Why'd you go in?​

​

"We're storming the Capitol, it's a revolution!"​

Some revolution, they all went home a few hours later.

Overblown event is overblown.

Meanwhile anti-fa/BLM continues their bullshit, and you ignore it, or even support it.

No one said they were successful. That doesn't excuse their that they tried.

 

[colfax_m]

Again, it's their actions, not just their words. They wanted to hang the VPOTUS. You seem to be giving them a pass because their mission failed.

You’re not supposed to feel threatened by a gallows until you have the engineers out there to assess it’s structural integrity. Duh.

Just like you’re not supposed to feel threatened by a gun unless you know it’s loaded and capable of firing a bullet.

 

[martybegan]

How many protesters were in that one hallway? How many officers were in that one hallway?

From the officers vantage point, it could have been dozens and dozens and dozens. He didn’t ask them for a head count. The officer knew hundreds of violent protestors were inside the Capitol. He knew that people were attacking officers.

So that means he was justified in shooting the one woman?

Really?

Try that at any other police interaction and see where that gets you.

 

[martybegan]

From the video I saw it looks like a bad shoot. Again, the one glaring thing was the presence of heavily armed officers on the SAME SIDE OF THE DOOR as the woman shot.

All that needs to be proven is that a rational person would have reasonable fear that the violent mob on the other side of the door presented an imminent danger to the officers and Congress members who were vastly outnumbered.

There is no real case against him.

Trump should apologize to her family for poisoning her mind.

He shot one unarmed woman that was trying to go through a door, and there were other officers on the same side as her.

I think the most glaring thing is he could have hit the other officers.

What difference does it make that there were other officers on her side of the door? How did they prevent her from trying to gain access to lawmakers on the other side?

It kind of hurts the whole "I was in fear for my life" argument about how the shooting was justified.

Armed cops on the same side as her not shooting her, one cop on the other side shooting her.

 

[martybegan]

What matters is he took the shot(s) and somehow there is no investigation results or even updates on the investigation.

Sounds like you’ve convicted him already.

Dont pretend like you want an investigation. You want an outcome.

Sounds familiar.

From the video I saw it looks like a bad shoot. Again, the one glaring thing was the presence of heavily armed officers on the SAME SIDE OF THE DOOR as the woman shot.

A bad shoot?? What are you saying, the cops on her side of the door should have shot her?

I'm saying if those cops didn't feel threatened when they were on the protesters side of the door, why did the guy with the pistol feel threatened?

They weren't protecting lawmakers inside the House chamber; whereas the cop who shot Ashli Targetpractice was. They had guns drawn on her and the door barricaded. Who knows why she insisted on making her way into the chamber?

And yet she was surrounded by other cops on the same side as her of the door, and they weren't shooting or even threatening to shoot.

 

[martybegan]

I don't vilify disagreement, I vilify cheerleading of silencing, and you are a cheerleader of that.

Ah; that’s why you went after three clueless meteorologists without knowing anything about them other than the fact that they disagreed with Trump.

Your actions speak louder than your worthless lies.

I didn't go after anyone of them, I went after people like you making a mountain out of a molehill because it feeds your TDS.

 

[initforme]

I thought Republicans were in support of police. Why were they acting this way towards police on the 6th?

 

[martybegan]

It's about the Truth, something you wouldn't want to hear if there was fraud, because again, you got what you wanted.

Seems like you don’t have a response what I actually wrote so you just keep repeating the same thing.

“The truth” was decided before the election. Trump won.

I am not saying he won with 100% certainty, I am saying I have unanswered questions on the results in several States, due to perceived shenanigans in Democrat controlled areas that resulted in a Biden "win"

He is. That’s what he’s been saying since BEFORE THE ELECTION.

This alone should tell you anything they say is extremely suspect. The perception of shenanigans is meaningless.

Again, it's only meaningless to you because you are a moronic political hack who got what you want, with Biden's cum dripping off your lips.

The perception is what matters to the millions of people who think like I do.

The perception is based on lies that people believe because Trump has severely damaged this country’s grasp on reality including yours.

You can no longer tell the difference between what is true and what you want to be true.

The perception is based on the belief that dems will do anything to win, and don't care how they do it. It's based on 4 years of them calling Trump the antichrist and expecting us to think they WOULD NEVER cheat to get rid of him.

It's based on loosening vote security using the excuse of COVID and then the votes coming in from that loosening being the ones that won it for Biden.

Quick! Somebody call that rightard a waaaaaaambulance!

Crybaby, all presidents get that treatment. Obama got it for 8 years. Bush got it for most of 8 years before that, except for the year between 9/11 and him idiotically launching a war in Iraq.

And despite your tears, it was your side who stormed the Capitol in search of politicians to kill and hoping to kill, or at least delay, certifying the election for Biden. Nothing, and I do mean nothing at all, justifies that treasonous, heinous crime against the United States of America. Your side is now the side of America's enemy.

And yet all the neighborhoods burning for months, not a word.

One day and you clowns are still overreacting to it because it suits your political interest, and it is easier to demonize than confront.

Crybaby, those neighborhoods have nothing to do with the insurrection on the Capitol. Whatabout much?

Yeah, no worries they have insurance.

It's not whataboutism when it points out the lefts hypocrisy on protests.

It's whataboutism when you stretch for something that has absolutely nothing to do with the attack on the Capitol. That seditious insurrection was because of the rights' demented views of the election and nothing at all to do with BLM or Antifa riots.

But I understand. There is no defense for what your fellow righties did to our Capitol so you try to blunt the force of that assault with other meaningless whataboutisms.

No, it's going apeshit over 1 day versus months of civil unrest because you support the months of civil unrest and see the one day as a political foil to use.

Again, matters not because one has nothing to do with the other. Using your bizarre logic, it's ok that BLM rioted because rightwingnuts protested in Charlottesville and murdered a woman. One thing has nothing to do with the other.

It's not that, it's about your overreaction to what happened in the capitol and your not caring about what happened in the rest of the country, because people you don't like did one, and people you like did the other.

You're an idiot, Marty. I condemned BLM and Antifa violence. And there is no overreacting to the attack on the Capitol. It was an assault on our country. If another country had done that to us, we'd be at war with them today.

"condemned"


And yet you want to prosecute anyone for just being near the capitol, and to up their crimes to political ones.

It was a protest that got out of hand, that did no permanent damage, and was over in a few hours.

The BLM/anti-fa insurgence is continuing, has ruined people businesses and homes, and will continue with your support.

It's telling that you care more about government than people, I guess when someone attacks your god, you get defensive.

Again, you're an idiot, Marty. I never said I wanted to prosecute anyone just for being near the Capitol. And yes, it did cause permanent damage. People died because of it. That's permanent. That the building survived does not trivialize the enormity of the assault. And while you post how leftwing violence is continuing, which I continue to condemn, so is rightwing violence. The right's desire to continue attacking our government did not end on 1/6. They're still planning more attacks. The National Guard had to swarm into DC to prevent an attack on or around Biden's inauguration. They're not done yet.

"condemn"

meanwhile you keep trying to make the Capitol thing the new Reichstag fire, an excuse to remove your political opponents.

Trump directly told the people marching to be peaceful, yet you want to impeach him for the actions of others.

That alone shows what a slimy hack you are.

You desire for government controlling all is still there, you fucking commie cocksucker.

You're an idiot, Marty. The fucking commie cocksuckers are the ones who attacked our country on 1/6. If you loved America, you would hate them for what they did.

Nope, you stand for the SJW idiocy in this country, it's all yours you quisling fucktard.

LOL

You're an idiot, Marty. Those seditionists who attacked our country and tried to stop the certification of our election -- are on your side of the aisle.

One day, and delayed it by a few hours.

Meanwhile in SJW land the protests continue, by the same people over and over and SJW cucks like you cheer it on.

You're an idiot, Marty. How many days did the British spend ransacking our Capitol during the War of 1812? Did we let them off the hook cause it took them less than a day?

So we are still enemies of the British hundreds of years later?

And it figures you bring up an actual war, it just shows you can't see anyone who disagrees with you as a fellow American, just as an enemy to be destroyed.

Thanks for clearing that up, you fascist fucking cum bucket.

No go suck off Dr Love while being pegged by Colfuck.

You're an idiot, Marty. Your side wasn't merely disagreeing with mine when they stormed the Capitol and tried to prevent the certification of a presidential election -- they were attacking my government, my election and my country. That makes them an enemy of America, as Britain was during the War of 1812.

And all they did was manage to delay the process a few hours, while lefty protesters actually destroyed government property in a far more permanent way, and interfere with the actions of local law enforcement that impacts regular people far more than a few hours of delay.

Keep calling your fellow citizens enemies, and when the shit hits the fan we will see who ends up on the dock.

It matters not that their "stop the steal" insurrection failed them. They still attacked the seat of our government. And only by the grace of G-d did they not murder any lawmakers.

They were walking around next to multiple security people inside, as well as staffers. None of them were killed.

The only person killed in the building was a protester, and that's being whitewashed.

They stormed the Capitol with the intent to murder lawmakers and "stop the steal." That they failed to accomplished either doesn't mitigate what they did.

Some of them may have said that, but please show me actual words spoken to that effect.

Dumbfuck...

So I assume all the anti-fa/BLM protesters who talk about killing cops are held to the same standard by you right?

When progressives speak of violence, it's speech, when non progressives do it, it's actual violence, nice double standard you have there.

You're an idiot, Marty. They weren't just saying it. They were trying to do it. Only because Pence managed to escape, did they fail. In the meantime, they constructed a gallows and they broke into the Capitol hunting for the VP (and others).

Your analogy, which like you, is a failure, would only be applicable if someone from BLM broke into a cop's house and threatened to kill the cop who lives there. Savvy? It's not just speech but it's the actions which accompany it.

That "gallow" was a prop that couldn't have hung a Barbie doll.

I guess when anti-fa started rolling around a guillotine that's just "symbolic"

Again, it's their actions, not just their words. They wanted to hang the VPOTUS. You seem to be giving them a pass because their mission failed.

With what, a prop gallows?

Again, you overblow what they were doing and downplay what Anti-fa and BLM do because only one lets you get your TDS rocks off.

 

[colfax_m]

I didn't go after anyone of them, I went after people like you making a mountain out of a molehill because it feeds your TDS.

You accused them of “choosing sides” and making this political, didn’t you?

I will post the quotes if you make me.

 

[martybegan]

The only person killed in the building was a protester, and that's being whitewashed.

Trump’s horde of idiots trampled a woman to death too.

Not that any of you give a shit.

Was that in the building or outside the building?

That was leading into the doorway where police were fighting to keep that seditious mob out.

While others were inside, some doing vandalism, others just walking around, and the only death inside was of one of the protesters.

They weren't just "walking around" when that woman was killed. They were storming the Capitol. She got crushed as that mob forced their way in.

storming, mob, all buzzwords used to make it sound worse than it was.

Meanwhile any progressive riot is labelled as "mostly peaceful"

Without double standards, your side wouldn't have any standards.

It's their words. You can't wish them away.

Why'd you go in?​

​

"We're storming the Capitol, it's a revolution!"​

Some revolution, they all went home a few hours later.

Overblown event is overblown.

Meanwhile anti-fa/BLM continues their bullshit, and you ignore it, or even support it.

No one said they were successful. That doesn't excuse their that they tried.

It doesn't turn a few hours of protest into a fucking revolution attempt.

Unlike Anti-fa/BLM who continue TO THIS DAY to engage with law enforcement.

 

[martybegan]

I didn't go after anyone of them, I went after people like you making a mountain out of a molehill because it feeds your TDS.

You accused them of “choosing sides” and making this political, didn’t you?

I will post the quotes if you make me.

That's not "going after them", The tone was not one of update, but of contradiction.

That's pointing out how I see things, and unlike your lefty dreams, that's one thing you can't fucking control.

 

[colfax_m]

That's not "going after them", The tone was not one of update, but of contradiction.

That's pointing out how I see things, and unlike your lefty dreams, that's one thing you can't fucking control.

You are attacking their scientific ethics which is that you don’t allow politics to play a role in your decision making. In fact, doing so would be subject to sanctions.

Im aware that’s how you see things. I’m pointing out that how you see things isn’t driven by reality but emotions of hatred to the media and the “left”. These scientists could not be allowed to be honest and ethical because contradicting Trump is not allowed, especially when it means that the media was right.

This is your disconnect from reality.

 

[martybegan]

That's not "going after them", The tone was not one of update, but of contradiction.

That's pointing out how I see things, and unlike your lefty dreams, that's one thing you can't fucking control.

You are attacking their scientific ethics which is that you don’t allow politics to play a role in your decision making. In fact, doing so would be subject to sanctions.

Im aware that’s how you see things. I’m pointing out that how you see things isn’t driven by reality but emotions of hatred to the media and the “left”. These scientists could not be allowed to be honest and ethical because contradicting Trump is not allowed, especially when it means that the media was right.

This is your disconnect from reality.

I am commenting on my perception of their response and the degree of politicization I see in it.

You use them as tools and them bitch when we try to block the hammer being swung at us.

 

[colfax_m]

I am commenting on my perception of their response and the degree of politicization I see in it.

Just like I said. You vilified anyone who contradicts Trump. The only thing you knew about these people was that they said something that disagreed with Trump and that was all you needed to know.

Your perception is indeed the problem.

 

[martybegan]

I am commenting on my perception of their response and the degree of politicization I see in it.

Just like I said. You vilified anyone who contradicts Trump. The only thing you knew about these people was that they said something that disagreed with Trump and that was all you needed to know.

Your perception is indeed the problem.

At least unlike the left I didn't try to get them fired, that's your side's tactic.

 

[marvin martian]

In addition to the cop who died after having his skull crushed with a fire extinguisher, the injuries include brain, cracked ribs, smashed spinal discs, eye issues (one about to lose an eye) and one officer stabbed with a metal fence stake. To make matters worse, another one committed suicide yesterday. And yet, Republicans yet defend Donald and his murderous insurrectionist mob. Sad

The fire extinguisher lie has been debunked, you rube. But, there's still a LONG way to go to catch up to the 2,000 cops that were injured during the DNC's summer riots. Not to mention the 30+ people who were murdered. But, most of those were black, so I know you don't care about them.