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Is grabbing your ass and breasts assault?This is just about race to you? Nothing to do with an abuse of the stand your ground laws?Told ya....they are willing to perpetrate an injustice to advance a political goal and stir the race hate..
So if I'm walking down the street and some guy grabs my ass or breasts I can justifiably shoot to kill him because I was in fear that a sexual assault was imminent?
Is grabbing your ass and breasts assault?This is just about race to you? Nothing to do with an abuse of the stand your ground laws?Told ya....they are willing to perpetrate an injustice to advance a political goal and stir the race hate..
So if I'm walking down the street and some guy grabs my ass or breasts I can justifiably shoot to kill him because I was in fear that a sexual assault was imminent?
Wrong.Letting the shooter off the hook without even a full investigation or possible charges of manslaughter being brought, is what challenges our laws that are used inappropriately to justify such a thing.
Is this little parking lot stalker worth it in the end ??
Saw a man draw a gun on an unarmed man who backed awayAgain, The dead pusher was measuring up a massive kick to down fat mans head. hitching up pants, leering down, advancing. The Gun came out just before. Pusher then began to drift, they (she was out of car heading for back) had planned to hit him front and back. Prove me wrong.
Easy. Watch the video.
Your imagination is running away with you.
You didn't see what the man on the ground saw..... sorry, sitting in your home is not the same as getting violently attacked and facing a much larger attacker.... You saw a video 50 feet from the attack from a rear angle, that is not the same thing.
Only the video and available testimony does not support your descriptionFire when he begins to approach you....not while he is backing awayAgain, The dead pusher was measuring up a massive kick to down fat mans head. hitching up pants, leering down, advancing. The Gun came out just before. Pusher then began to drift, they (she was out of car heading for back) had planned to hit him front an back. Prove me wrong.
Nonsensical comment. The white guy did not even see the black guy coming. The white guy was explaining to the black lady why they should not park in the handicap space when the next thing he knew he was blindsided and down on the ground. Whereupon he looked up saw the black guy standing over him and then drew his pistol and shot. which is covered by the law of self defense.
Most likely he did not see the backward step of the black guy.
The black guy made several mistakes...first of all comitting assault. Secondly when he saw the pistol come out he should have put his hands up or took off running...if he had time to do either...things happend very quickly. He was probably just as supprised to see the pistol as the white guy was to get knocked to the ground.
The black guy waited till he got shot then he took off running, collapsed and died.
If this is the same parking lot shooting incident I'd call it a clean shoot.
The shooter confronted someone for illegally parking.
He was assaulted.
He defended himself from further aggression.
Would I have confronted a man for parking in a HC spot w/o a tag?
Fuck no. You won't even see me confront or interfere in a serious crime unless I know that failing to act will result in serious injury or death to someone I know to be an innocent victim. Otherwise my role as a citizen is to observe and report the incident to authorities. The liability involved is far too great of a risk to be a "hero".
It is the responsibility of every citizen to keep their hands to themselves. If you don't want to get shot, do not push, slap, shove or even "get in the face of" another citizen who is merely irritating you.
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Blacks don't understand that.
When confronted they immediately start raving and resort to violence.
See we don't have a right to confront them when they are breaking the law.
They don't even think law enforcement should confront them.
Saw a man draw a gun on an unarmed man who backed away
I apparently know more about this than you do. Your first mistake was lumping me in with the anti-gunners. Your second was attempting to portray all concealed carry holders as law abiding and honorable which we know they aren't all. George Zimmerman is a perfect case in point. Then there is judge Beth Bloom and this idiotic ruling:where a theft victim ran down the thief and stabbed him to death. Judge Bloom cited the state's Stand Your Ground statute and ruled the killing was "self-defense"There are 17 million people carrying guns in this country....Stand Your Ground is a tiny number of shootings each year... you don't know what you are talking about..
As actual research shows, those people who carry guns are more law abiding than the average citizen and more law abiding than even sworn police officers.
Anti gunners hate guns and this is a fake issue to allow them to go after gun owners.
Right! White guy should not have been running his mouth but the physical assault on his person was a crime! Right?When you have been shoved down violently it is a reasonable anticipation that more violence will come and that you are at a disadvantage. Again, the white guy was running his mouth at the time he was physically assaulted!Again, The dead pusher was measuring up a massive kick to down fat mans head. hitching up pants, leering down, advancing. The Gun came out just before. Pusher then began to drift, they (she was out of car heading for back) had planned to hit him front an back. Prove me wrong.
OK? I think? I would never approach any parked car in a parking rage incident. Especially with kids in the car. But this idiot did and decided to argue.
What would happen to the fat man busybody w/o a Gun? Kicked? Ran over? Head smashed to pavement? All of above? Gun saved his fat butt.
If the white man had an obligation to end this peacefully then sodid the black man. When someone is merely running his mouth you have choices! Shoving him violently is not an acceptable choice is it?No troll, it means you don't have to run when a criminal attacks you. That is all it means.Stand your ground means might makes rightCrump was never the sharpest knife in the drawer. I have no idea how he passed the bar.
Under what circumstances an aggressor can claim self defense is first year criminal law stuff.
Once a fight starts, you can use your gun to resolve it
And what if you are the one who initiated the confrontation?
You can start a fight, then pull your gun and fire, claiming you feared for your life and stood your ground
One can see why we have so much crime. Liberals do not want to punish criminals.If the white man had an obligation to end this peacefully then sodid the black man. When someone is merely running his mouth you have choices! Shoving him violently is not an acceptable choice is it?No troll, it means you don't have to run when a criminal attacks you. That is all it means.Stand your ground means might makes rightCrump was never the sharpest knife in the drawer. I have no idea how he passed the bar.
Under what circumstances an aggressor can claim self defense is first year criminal law stuff.
Once a fight starts, you can use your gun to resolve it
And what if you are the one who initiated the confrontation?
You can start a fight, then pull your gun and fire, claiming you feared for your life and stood your ground
The white man was under no such obligation by law or otherwise. The black man made a stupid decision to assault the white guy and paid the price. End of story.
The only thing sad is the racism you and your fellow rightwing miscreants propagate.If this is the same parking lot shooting incident I'd call it a clean shoot.
The shooter confronted someone for illegally parking.
He was assaulted.
He defended himself from further aggression.
Would I have confronted a man for parking in a HC spot w/o a tag?
Fuck no. You won't even see me confront or interfere in a serious crime unless I know that failing to act will result in serious injury or death to someone I know to be an innocent victim. Otherwise my role as a citizen is to observe and report the incident to authorities. The liability involved is far too great of a risk to be a "hero".
It is the responsibility of every citizen to keep their hands to themselves. If you don't want to get shot, do not push, slap, shove or even "get in the face of" another citizen who is merely irritating you.
.
Blacks don't understand that.
When confronted they immediately start raving and resort to violence.
See we don't have a right to confront them when they are breaking the law.
They don't even think law enforcement should confront them.
Sadly true....and we see it demonstrated time and again. Made possible by the liberal elements whose agenda is to promote black victimhood and white racism.
I apparently know more about this than you do. Your first mistake was lumping me in with the anti-gunners. Your second was attempting to portray all concealed carry holders as law abiding and honorable which we know they aren't all. George Zimmerman is a perfect case in point. Then there is judge Beth Bloom and this idiotic ruling:where a theft victim ran down the thief and stabbed him to death. Judge Bloom cited the state's Stand Your Ground statute and ruled the killing was "self-defense"There are 17 million people carrying guns in this country....Stand Your Ground is a tiny number of shootings each year... you don't know what you are talking about..
As actual research shows, those people who carry guns are more law abiding than the average citizen and more law abiding than even sworn police officers.
Anti gunners hate guns and this is a fake issue to allow them to go after gun owners.
Garcia, 25, saw Pedro Roteta, 26, trying to steal the radio from his truck, which was parked outside Garcia's Miami apartment. Garcia grabbed a large knife, ran downstairs and chased Roteta for at least a block. The incident was caught on tape and showed that Garcia stabbed Roteta to death.
'Stand Your Ground': Miami Judge Decides Fatal Stabbing Was Self-Defense
That would be the injustice perped eh...read muchThis is just about race to you? Nothing to do with an abuse of the stand your ground laws?Told ya....they are willing to perpetrate an injustice to advance a political goal and stir the race hate..
So if I'm walking down the street and some guy grabs my ass or breasts I can justifiably shoot to kill him because I was in fear that a sexual assault was imminent?
The only thing sad is the racism you and your fellow rightwing miscreants propagate.If this is the same parking lot shooting incident I'd call it a clean shoot.
The shooter confronted someone for illegally parking.
He was assaulted.
He defended himself from further aggression.
Would I have confronted a man for parking in a HC spot w/o a tag?
Fuck no. You won't even see me confront or interfere in a serious crime unless I know that failing to act will result in serious injury or death to someone I know to be an innocent victim. Otherwise my role as a citizen is to observe and report the incident to authorities. The liability involved is far too great of a risk to be a "hero".
It is the responsibility of every citizen to keep their hands to themselves. If you don't want to get shot, do not push, slap, shove or even "get in the face of" another citizen who is merely irritating you.
.
Blacks don't understand that.
When confronted they immediately start raving and resort to violence.
See we don't have a right to confront them when they are breaking the law.
They don't even think law enforcement should confront them.
Sadly true....and we see it demonstrated time and again. Made possible by the liberal elements whose agenda is to promote black victimhood and white racism.
White racism is real, your posts are proof of that – no one is ‘promoting’ anything, there is no ‘agenda’; there is only the racism common to far too many on the right.
It would depend on the totality of all of the factors, but I can just about guarantee you that no one would feel that I had the right to shoot a "man" for the "simple" offense of touching me without my consent - the law says this is simple assault/battery meaning it doesn't rise to the level of the forcible felony required to use lethal force.If that happened would you feel like a forcible felony or great bodily harm was imminent ?
These laws are different in every state.Lawyer Benjamin Crump said Thursday that "it's still ludicrous" that a person can be an aggressor in a confrontation and then claim self-defense.The problem is not with the stand your ground law, it's the fact that in order for it to work properly they're relying on what is essentially an "honor" system that is being abused by individuals who have failured to complay with the requirements for the lethal use of force they've employed.
by Erik Ortiz / Jul.26.2018 / 4:48 PM ET / Updated Jul.26.2018 / 5:57 PM ET
McGlockton attorney speaks out against 'stand your ground'
Jul.26.201802:28
A prominent civil rights attorney on Thursday demanded Florida lawmakers amend the state's "stand your ground" law to prevent the person shown to be the aggressor in a confrontation from claiming immunity.
Lawyer Benjamin Crump joined the family of Markeis McGlockton, the 28-year-old father of three fatally shot by another man in a Clearwater parking lot, and argued there is enough evidence for state prosecutors to bring charges against the shooter.
"It's still ludicrous how you can claim you have fear for your life, yet you approach and start the confrontation with the individuals," Crump said at a news conference outside the Pinellas County Justice Center.
He also called for state legislators to take up stricter gun responsibility laws. Florida has some of the most lax gun laws in the nation, according to the Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence, a California-based organization started by former congresswoman Gabby Giffords.
Too many of the individuals involved in committing these offenses initated the confrontation I'm sure bolden by the fact that they were carrying. Additionally, several bad rulings set precedence that from all appearances is next to impossible to undo.
As I've indicataed before, they teach you what to do and say in the training classes required for obtaining a concealed carry permit (state "I was in fear for my life") but they also teach you under what set of circumstances you can legally draw your weapon without it being considered brandishing and what level of threat allows you to respond with deadly force. And picking a fight just so that you can pull your weapon and shoot someone is not a valid legal basis but more importantly, that's not self-defense. In many cases It's the cowardly act of any individual who is unable to distinguish between an actual threat and an injury to their ego.
It would depend on the totality of all of the factors, but I can just about guarantee you that no one would feel that I had the right to shoot a "man" for the "simple" offense of touching me without my consent - the law says this is simple assault/battery meaning it doesn't rise to the level of the forcible felony required to use lethal force.If that happened would you feel like a forcible felony or great bodily harm was imminent ?
While the guy in this case, Michael Drejka, got knocked on his ass for accosting a woman but an unsettling amount of people thinks that justifies him killing the guy who knocked him down. Unless I'm reading the statute incorrectly Drejka's situation also was a simple battery.
Saw a man draw a gun on an unarmed man who backed away
Saw a man lining up to finish the attack. As did law enforcement investigators.
He was shot square in the chest, not in the back running away.
Saw a man draw a gun on an unarmed man who backed away
Saw a man lining up to finish the attack. As did law enforcement investigators.
He was shot square in the chest, not in the back running away.
The attack was finished when the gun was drawn
The black man was backing away
Not according to investigators....fleeing means back turned. Its why there was no arrest or charges.Saw a man draw a gun on an unarmed man who backed away
Saw a man lining up to finish the attack. As did law enforcement investigators.
He was shot square in the chest, not in the back running away.
The attack was finished when the gun was drawn
The black man was backing away
