American politics: tragic or comic?

[IcebergSlim]

The Race to the Bottom of Stupid ain't gonna be pretty......but then IceWeasel is a Coy Mistress

 

[there4eyeM]

Can it get funnier or more tragic?

 

[OKTexas]

What's even more hysterical than that is common folk say class warfare has no place in politics. And some actually believe that garbage.

Not only does class warfare not have a place in politics, it has no place in the country. You are where you are because of the decisions you make, no one else.

 

[initforme]

Class warfare has a place in politics you bet it does and it is only going to become more of an issue. Rightfully so. Would I help an uber wealthy person if they needed it desperately? I'd have to think about for awhile first.

 

[OKTexas]

Class warfare has a place in politics you bet it does and it is only going to become more of an issue. Rightfully so. Would I help an uber wealthy person if they needed it desperately? I'd have to think about for awhile first.

Just can take responsibility for your own life can ya?

 

[jwoodie]

The principal problem with US elections is the dynamic which drives the GOP nomination process.....The Reagan campaigns' success with "Appeal to Stupid" has created a blueprint for GOP candidates in subsequent races. This was particularly effective when FOX and Rush could be relied upon to "re-catapult the propaganda"....Listening and reacting is easy, reading and cogitating is hard.

Then along came Clinton whose election was an affront to those who had convinced themselves that Stupid would reign triumphant for millennia. To add insult to injury, Clinton's performance, as reflected in objective metrics, far outshone Reagan's.......even worse, he managed to do this while eliminating the deficit which was the nagging legacy of Supply Side Idiocy, Part One.
That's when Stupid decided to criminalize consensual adult activity. It didn't succeed in its aim to remove Clinton, but it threw around enough muck that the electorate was prepared to overlook the Administration's performance, and decline to embrace the admittedly unremarkable Al Gore, whose 500,000 vote margin was sufficiently unimpressive to allow the Dimwit Dauphin to hornswoggle SCOTUS reactionaries into declaring him the winner.

As the aforementioned Dimwit was establishing himself as the worst POTUS of all time, meritless hucksters and bunko artists like Beck, Drudge and Breitbart, seeing the vast fortune amassed by Rush, figured the Fields of Stupid were sufficiently abundant to also provide them succor.....But it was clear that, where product differentiation on the margin offered some benefits, moving further out along the Lunatic Fringe offered more....This Balkanization of Stupid resulted in a relative loss of leverage for the principal megaphones of Stupid, specifically FOX and Rush, splintered the Herd of Stupid and made them more difficult to direct.

When Scrub's failures became too obvious to rationalize any longer, resignation gave way to enthusiasm, as the Legion de Sac Gonades provided a new brand, and a fresh start. Though in the early, heady, days of the movement almost 60% of Teabaggers would give Scrub Twelve Toes Up for his performance, they would eventually throw him under the bus and, nearly to an Imbecile, begin to claim that they had never cast a vote for him.

In 2012, aspirants for the GOP nomination were faced with the reality that they would need to quickly secure a critical mass of primary voters (somewhere north of 20%) to put themselves into position to survive the marathon ahead. The easiest pickings are, tragically, the Creme de la Creme of Stupid - illiterate, innumerate, mouthbreathing, knuckledragging, ammosexual bigots....The process of courting this esteemed group has determined the course of every election since....

This is what gets you IGNORED:

1. Mindless ranting;
2. Long, disjointed posts;
3. Endless name calling; and
4. Lack of relevance to subject matter.

 

[Iceweasel]

The principal problem with US elections is the dynamic which drives the GOP nomination process.....The Reagan campaigns' success with "Appeal to Stupid" has created a blueprint for GOP candidates in subsequent races. This was particularly effective when FOX and Rush could be relied upon to "re-catapult the propaganda"....Listening and reacting is easy, reading and cogitating is hard.

Then along came Clinton whose election was an affront to those who had convinced themselves that Stupid would reign triumphant for millennia. To add insult to injury, Clinton's performance, as reflected in objective metrics, far outshone Reagan's.......even worse, he managed to do this while eliminating the deficit which was the nagging legacy of Supply Side Idiocy, Part One.
That's when Stupid decided to criminalize consensual adult activity. It didn't succeed in its aim to remove Clinton, but it threw around enough muck that the electorate was prepared to overlook the Administration's performance, and decline to embrace the admittedly unremarkable Al Gore, whose 500,000 vote margin was sufficiently unimpressive to allow the Dimwit Dauphin to hornswoggle SCOTUS reactionaries into declaring him the winner.

As the aforementioned Dimwit was establishing himself as the worst POTUS of all time, meritless hucksters and bunko artists like Beck, Drudge and Breitbart, seeing the vast fortune amassed by Rush, figured the Fields of Stupid were sufficiently abundant to also provide them succor.....But it was clear that, where product differentiation on the margin offered some benefits, moving further out along the Lunatic Fringe offered more....This Balkanization of Stupid resulted in a relative loss of leverage for the principal megaphones of Stupid, specifically FOX and Rush, splintered the Herd of Stupid and made them more difficult to direct.

When Scrub's failures became too obvious to rationalize any longer, resignation gave way to enthusiasm, as the Legion de Sac Gonades provided a new brand, and a fresh start. Though in the early, heady, days of the movement almost 60% of Teabaggers would give Scrub Twelve Toes Up for his performance, they would eventually throw him under the bus and, nearly to an Imbecile, begin to claim that they had never cast a vote for him.

In 2012, aspirants for the GOP nomination were faced with the reality that they would need to quickly secure a critical mass of primary voters (somewhere north of 20%) to put themselves into position to survive the marathon ahead. The easiest pickings are, tragically, the Creme de la Creme of Stupid - illiterate, innumerate, mouthbreathing, knuckledragging, ammosexual bigots....The process of courting this esteemed group has determined the course of every election since....

This is what gets you IGNORED:

1. Mindless ranting;
2. Long, disjointed posts;
3. Endless name calling; and
4. Lack of relevance to subject matter.

I think I'll join you, answer his point and he simply brings up something else, always trying to drag you down to his level.

 

[IcebergSlim]

The principal problem with US elections is the dynamic which drives the GOP nomination process.....The Reagan campaigns' success with "Appeal to Stupid" has created a blueprint for GOP candidates in subsequent races. This was particularly effective when FOX and Rush could be relied upon to "re-catapult the propaganda"....Listening and reacting is easy, reading and cogitating is hard.

Then along came Clinton whose election was an affront to those who had convinced themselves that Stupid would reign triumphant for millennia. To add insult to injury, Clinton's performance, as reflected in objective metrics, far outshone Reagan's.......even worse, he managed to do this while eliminating the deficit which was the nagging legacy of Supply Side Idiocy, Part One.
That's when Stupid decided to criminalize consensual adult activity. It didn't succeed in its aim to remove Clinton, but it threw around enough muck that the electorate was prepared to overlook the Administration's performance, and decline to embrace the admittedly unremarkable Al Gore, whose 500,000 vote margin was sufficiently unimpressive to allow the Dimwit Dauphin to hornswoggle SCOTUS reactionaries into declaring him the winner.

As the aforementioned Dimwit was establishing himself as the worst POTUS of all time, meritless hucksters and bunko artists like Beck, Drudge and Breitbart, seeing the vast fortune amassed by Rush, figured the Fields of Stupid were sufficiently abundant to also provide them succor.....But it was clear that, where product differentiation on the margin offered some benefits, moving further out along the Lunatic Fringe offered more....This Balkanization of Stupid resulted in a relative loss of leverage for the principal megaphones of Stupid, specifically FOX and Rush, splintered the Herd of Stupid and made them more difficult to direct.

When Scrub's failures became too obvious to rationalize any longer, resignation gave way to enthusiasm, as the Legion de Sac Gonades provided a new brand, and a fresh start. Though in the early, heady, days of the movement almost 60% of Teabaggers would give Scrub Twelve Toes Up for his performance, they would eventually throw him under the bus and, nearly to an Imbecile, begin to claim that they had never cast a vote for him.

In 2012, aspirants for the GOP nomination were faced with the reality that they would need to quickly secure a critical mass of primary voters (somewhere north of 20%) to put themselves into position to survive the marathon ahead. The easiest pickings are, tragically, the Creme de la Creme of Stupid - illiterate, innumerate, mouthbreathing, knuckledragging, ammosexual bigots....The process of courting this esteemed group has determined the course of every election since....

This is what gets you IGNORED:

1. Mindless ranting;
2. Long, disjointed posts;
3. Endless name calling; and
4. Lack of relevance to subject matter.

Can you identify a post which more thoroughly explores the very issues raised by the OP?

Is there any part of the argument with which you are capable of taking issue?

If not, why don't you and your butthurt pal go fuck yourselves?

 

[IcebergSlim]

The principal problem with US elections is the dynamic which drives the GOP nomination process.....The Reagan campaigns' success with "Appeal to Stupid" has created a blueprint for GOP candidates in subsequent races. This was particularly effective when FOX and Rush could be relied upon to "re-catapult the propaganda"....Listening and reacting is easy, reading and cogitating is hard.

Then along came Clinton whose election was an affront to those who had convinced themselves that Stupid would reign triumphant for millennia. To add insult to injury, Clinton's performance, as reflected in objective metrics, far outshone Reagan's.......even worse, he managed to do this while eliminating the deficit which was the nagging legacy of Supply Side Idiocy, Part One.
That's when Stupid decided to criminalize consensual adult activity. It didn't succeed in its aim to remove Clinton, but it threw around enough muck that the electorate was prepared to overlook the Administration's performance, and decline to embrace the admittedly unremarkable Al Gore, whose 500,000 vote margin was sufficiently unimpressive to allow the Dimwit Dauphin to hornswoggle SCOTUS reactionaries into declaring him the winner.

As the aforementioned Dimwit was establishing himself as the worst POTUS of all time, meritless hucksters and bunko artists like Beck, Drudge and Breitbart, seeing the vast fortune amassed by Rush, figured the Fields of Stupid were sufficiently abundant to also provide them succor.....But it was clear that, where product differentiation on the margin offered some benefits, moving further out along the Lunatic Fringe offered more....This Balkanization of Stupid resulted in a relative loss of leverage for the principal megaphones of Stupid, specifically FOX and Rush, splintered the Herd of Stupid and made them more difficult to direct.

When Scrub's failures became too obvious to rationalize any longer, resignation gave way to enthusiasm, as the Legion de Sac Gonades provided a new brand, and a fresh start. Though in the early, heady, days of the movement almost 60% of Teabaggers would give Scrub Twelve Toes Up for his performance, they would eventually throw him under the bus and, nearly to an Imbecile, begin to claim that they had never cast a vote for him.

In 2012, aspirants for the GOP nomination were faced with the reality that they would need to quickly secure a critical mass of primary voters (somewhere north of 20%) to put themselves into position to survive the marathon ahead. The easiest pickings are, tragically, the Creme de la Creme of Stupid - illiterate, innumerate, mouthbreathing, knuckledragging, ammosexual bigots....The process of courting this esteemed group has determined the course of every election since....

This is what gets you IGNORED:

1. Mindless ranting;
2. Long, disjointed posts;
3. Endless name calling; and
4. Lack of relevance to subject matter.

I think I'll join you, answer his point and he simply brings up something else, always trying to drag you down to his level.

How any of the Creme de la Creme de Stupid boxes do you check, IceIce?

 

[there4eyeM]

Class warfare! Now, there's a non-defined term to throw around for obfuscation! It does tend toward the comic side, though.

 

[IcebergSlim]

Class warfare! Now, there's a non-defined term to throw around for obfuscation! It does tend toward the comic side, though.

You stumbled off the Rhetorical Reservation.....the "class warfare" trope is like a lasso bringing you back....

 

[Kaykan]

Class warfare! Now, there's a non-defined term to throw around for obfuscation! It does tend toward the comic side, though.

You stumbled off the Rhetorical Reservation.....the "class warfare" trope is like a lasso bringing you back....

Wobrick says, "Come back, Shane."
I'll second the sentiment.

 

[Olde Europe]

This is what gets you IGNORED:

1. Mindless ranting;
2. Long, disjointed posts;
3. Endless name calling; and
4. Lack of relevance to subject matter.

This is what j-woodie really wanted to say but could not:

This is what gets you WIDELY READ:

1. Wit, not exclusively, but particularly of the biting variety;
2. Exciting eloquence;
3. Pinpointing relevant players; and
4. Perspicacious observation of the relevant events and developments.​

The principal problem with US elections [...]

[I'll steal that text, Slim. In fact, I already stole it; thanks.]

 

[IcebergSlim]

Class warfare! Now, there's a non-defined term to throw around for obfuscation! It does tend toward the comic side, though.

You stumbled off the Rhetorical Reservation.....the "class warfare" trope is like a lasso bringing you back....

Wobrick says, "Come back, Shane."
I'll second the sentiment.

The moderators have seen fit to protect Otis from my regularly scheduled beatings......Perhaps if someone not prohibited from doing so would start a new thread and invite the Regulars....maybe.....just sayin.....

 

[IcebergSlim]

This is what gets you IGNORED:

1. Mindless ranting;
2. Long, disjointed posts;
3. Endless name calling; and
4. Lack of relevance to subject matter.

This is what j-woodie really wanted to say but could not:

This is what gets you WIDELY READ:

1. Wit, not exclusively, but particularly of the biting variety;
2. Exciting eloquence;
3. Pinpointing relevant players; and
4. Perspicacious observation of the relevant events and developments.​

The principal problem with US elections [...]

[I'll steal that text, Slim. In fact, I already stole it; thanks.]

I'm honored and humbled.......I would be pleased to spy your far more eloquent and witty contributions, but it is so frustrating to be disallowed to participate.....

 

[Correll]

The situation is such in the US presidential race that one hardly knows which to do, laugh or weep. It certainly causes shock, fear and laughter for those viewing it from abroad.

In both the US and Europe, our Political Classes are out of touch and out of ideas.

In both places they are importing Third World "workers" is a desperate and doomed attempt to maintain the Industrial Age social safety nets that have become unsustainable.

In both places this is leading to tremendous loss of social capital.

It is far worse in Europe as their Third World Immigrants are far shittier, often literally than ours.

BUT here in American our population is healthy enough to be attempting a populist revolt, in both parties.

This is to our credit.

Whether it works or not.

Europe should be so lucky.

 

[SuperDemocrat]

The situation is such in the US presidential race that one hardly knows which to do, laugh or weep. It certainly causes shock, fear and laughter for those viewing it from abroad.

No one really cares what other people in other countries thinks. Some of those countries like to laugh at JErry Lewis. Why should I care what other countries think of who we vote for. Do you think they worry what we think of them? I really think that the people in these countries can jam a broomstick up their ass and play banjo music in the background.

 

[Obejoekenobe]

Alright, a new thread. Last one was getting tweaky anyway.

 

[Correll]

Alright, a new thread. Last one was getting tweaky anyway.

Well, thanks for contributing.

 

[petro]

The situation is such in the US presidential race that one hardly knows which to do, laugh or weep. It certainly causes shock, fear and laughter for those viewing it from abroad.

Political battles from abroad.


www.politics.co.uk/.../02/.../video-feature-the-very-best-political-fistfight...

Screw what those from abroad think. Power changes hands in the US in relative peace, while others resort to fistfights or
even a downright violent overthrow of a current administration.