American sanctions against Russians is inhumane and a disgrace to the World War II alliance

[justoffal]

I personally have different thoughts about using prisoners for war. A number of countries of history have have done this it’s a sort of way to give the prisoner redemption. I don’t know exactly what is going on on the ground and Ukraine but certainly all warfare could be ugly.

I know that the Russian ruble tanked immediately after Russia invaded Ukraine, but it gained back significant ground not too long after the initial invasion. So to your point that’s something interesting.

I am highly distressed at the number of lives that have been sacrificed to this useless war. Zelensky is no better than Putin in this regard. They are looking at High school students NOW????
WTF? If that miniscule thief had any conscience at all he would immediately make terms and start rebuilding his country. Putin is not asking that much of them that they couldn't live with it.
No....instead the international greed barons who run Ukraine want to weaken Russia so they can divide the spoils and they are willing to keep going right down to the last Ukrainian.

Then of course you have the ever so lucrative aid bills coming from the US congress that are nothing more than dressed up graft full of boomerang bucks for our corrupt DC solons.
Notice how desperate they are to get another UK aid bill passed and monied? It's laughable to watch them sweat while the money laundry is closed down.

JO

 

[BlindBoo]

When we invaded Iraq in 2003 Russia did not sanction us.

Because they have very little to sanction us with. They're basically a gas station masquerading as a Country. We've bought a little oil from them but who haven't we bought oil from?

 

[FranklinRoosevelt_FTW]

it seems you complain far more about Ukraine than about Russia.

Yet Russia did not give billions of dollars and powerful military equipment to the Iraqi military or the Ba’ath party in 2003. So what is America doing? Why are we doing this to Russia when they did not attack us. The whole thing goes against the ideals of the security council and the powers of World War II that fought for the allies. We’re not doing the right thing diplomatically by supporting Ukraine.

Supporting Ukrainian troops to kill Russians is an abomination. The Russians are fellow Christians.


. We live in a world where the United States has supplied countless billions of dollars and high-powered weapons to Ukraine. That is a major problem. It is true that neo-Nazis fight for Ukraine. They even honored one at the Canadian Parliament another disgrace, any which way somebody who supports American values looks at it from. … that’s not a joke or “Russian propaganda” it happened and it is quite mind-boggling

I’ve even seen some so-called supporters of the Jewish state of Israel support Ukraine. It goes to show how fake and inhumane those supporters of Israel are. They’re literally supporting Nazis. It’s unbelievable.

Even more mind-boggling, that Black Lives Matter people still support Ukraine even with the neo-Nazi problem. They act like none of it matters like that Nazi, who is given a standing ovation in the Canadian parliament means nothing. Imagine for a moment and actual person in a KKK uniform standing up getting praised by BLM Democrats for fighting Russia.

It’s an Outrage when you think about it about the fake Democrats, they support for BLM. They claim the stand up for minorities, but they never really do.

Anyway, if the USA giving countless billions and weapons to Ukraine. If it wasn’t for that, I wouldn’t be so adamant about my position. It is only because of what the USA is doing and what our country is doing is not right it serves no purpose to benefit Americans.

 

[FranklinRoosevelt_FTW]

Because they have very little to sanction us with. They're basically a gas station masquerading as a Country. We've bought a little oil from them but who haven't we bought oil from?

Russia could have given money or weapons to Iraq, which could’ve killed more American troops. But they did not. So it ain’t right that we’re supporting Ukrainian troops to kill Russians.

Russia has high-powered missiles. They even have many nuclear warheads imagine if they gave one to Iraq in 2003.

And Russia is a member of the UN security council.

 

[FranklinRoosevelt_FTW]

Iran and Saddam/Iraq were enemies... Putin is allied with Iran. WHY would Russia/Putin ever put sanctions on us for Iraq when the enemy of their enemy is busy at work, helping them!

Far as I recall, Russia was allied with Iraq or neutral toward them. This occurs sometimes when it comes to world diplomacy. Because the United States has also worked with allies in the Middle East, who were at odds with Israel remember that. Recall that the United States was allied with Iraq against Iran in the 1980s, at the same time, Iraq and Israel were enemies of each other.

And recall that the United States was allies with the gulf countries, which at one time were against Israel although now, those countries are friendly with each other.

And there’s other examples of the United States being allies with a country that is also allies with an opponent of the USA. So this topic you bring up is found all over the world.

The thing is the United States has given Ukraine someone hundred billion dollars along with powerful weapons. That is a massive deal. And it’s a hell of a lot more perhaps than what certain countries of the world have done to help their allies in a time of war.

But I think everyone gonna agree Ukraine is not a democracy. They have a state ran media, they suppress freedom of religion, and they have recently canceled elections. If people wanted to support Ukraine, that is their right. Some people support, monarchy, communist countries, and dictatorship that’s up to them.

But for the types of liberals in America, who believe that “Ukraine is a democracy” that is really the definition of being uninformed or willingly believing a lie to make themselves feel better

 

[Edgetho]

If you'd read some history instead of listening to the dimocrap scum party for it, you'd know that Soviet Russia starved MILLIONS and MILLIONS of Ukainians to death. The most horrible way to die there is.

It's called the 'holodomor'. Look it up.

Ukraine was ruled by the Russians for 75 years and the Ukes would rather die than go back to 'communism' (it wasn't, it never is. calling it 'communism' is just an excuse for thugs to take control. You know, like dimocrap scum).

Who wouldn't fight to the death to prevent that from happening to them again?

 

[Edgetho]

Russia could have given money or weapons to Iraq, which could’ve killed more American troops. But they did not. So it ain’t right that we’re supporting Ukrainian troops to kill Russians.

Russia has high-powered missiles. They even have many nuclear warheads imagine if they gave one to Iraq in 2003.

And Russia is a member of the UN security council.

Dewd, you need to look around, under the sofa, in the freezer, on your car floor because you HAVE to find you missing meds.

Seriously.

Every weapon, every rifle, every bullet, every tank, every airplane, everything they had was Russian

 

[martybegan]

Yet Russia did not give billions of dollars and powerful military equipment to the Iraqi military or the Ba’ath party in 2003. So what is America doing? Why are we doing this to Russia when they did not attack us. The whole thing goes against the ideals of the security council and the powers of World War II that fought for the allies. We’re not doing the right thing diplomatically by supporting Ukraine.

Supporting Ukrainian troops to kill Russians is an abomination. The Russians are fellow Christians.


. We live in a world where the United States has supplied countless billions of dollars and high-powered weapons to Ukraine. That is a major problem. It is true that neo-Nazis fight for Ukraine. They even honored one at the Canadian Parliament another disgrace, any which way somebody who supports American values looks at it from. … that’s not a joke or “Russian propaganda” it happened and it is quite mind-boggling

I’ve even seen some so-called supporters of the Jewish state of Israel support Ukraine. It goes to show how fake and inhumane those supporters of Israel are. They’re literally supporting Nazis. It’s unbelievable.

Even more mind-boggling, that Black Lives Matter people still support Ukraine even with the neo-Nazi problem. They act like none of it matters like that Nazi, who is given a standing ovation in the Canadian parliament means nothing. Imagine for a moment and actual person in a KKK uniform standing up getting praised by BLM Democrats for fighting Russia.

It’s an Outrage when you think about it about the fake Democrats, they support for BLM. They claim the stand up for minorities, but they never really do.

Anyway, if the USA giving countless billions and weapons to Ukraine. If it wasn’t for that, I wouldn’t be so adamant about my position. It is only because of what the USA is doing and what our country is doing is not right it serves no purpose to benefit Americans.

Russia taking over it's old Empire isn't beneficial to America.

 

[FranklinRoosevelt_FTW]

If you'd read some history instead of listening to the dimocrap scum party for it, you'd know that Soviet Russia starved MILLIONS and MILLIONS of Ukainians to death. The most horrible way to die there is.

It's called the 'holodomor'. Look it up.

Ukraine was ruled by the Russians for 75 years and the Ukes would rather die than go back to 'communism' (it wasn't, it never is. calling it 'communism' is just an excuse for thugs to take control. You know, like dimocrap scum).

Who wouldn't fight to the death to prevent that from happening to them again?

Lotta folks who push that type of view are anti-Semitic. They believe that Jews ran the Soviet Union.

Eastern Ukrainians and World War III supported the Soviet union. There were lots of Ukrainians that were patriots of the Soviet union, including this lady.

A number of western Ukrainians supported the holocaust and sent Jews to the ovens. Now that’s the fact that’s history. And I’m sure that there were some who were neutral. But we have the facts from history that quite a few western Ukrainian supported the third Reich, and quite a few eastern Ukrainians supported the Soviet union.



There it is right there^, the very words of you of a Ukrainian Soviet hero. During World War II, when the Americans and British were allied with the Soviets. Remember, that thing called World War II were Nazis tried to wipe out every single Jew of the world. It is a palling by the way that some supporters of Israel also support Ukraine. It’s a disgrace to history. They are the very types of people who don’t actually care what veterans of World War III like in the video above have to say they think that they didn’t exist or that they don’t mean anything. But you see it in the video above, and countless other testimonials of Ukrainian Soviets, who supported the Soviet war effort.

Yes, the Soviet administration committed crimes in its existence. But the average Soviet person during World War II was a patriot and they are on the right side of history.

 

[FranklinRoosevelt_FTW]

Dewd, you need to look around, under the sofa, in the freezer, on your car floor because you HAVE to find you missing meds.

Seriously.

Every weapon, every rifle, every bullet, every tank, every airplane, everything they had was Russian

Let’s not get personal here and have an actual polite discussion

The point is that in 2003 the Russian Federation did not supply Iraq and they could have. Imagine if they gave him a nuclear warhead. You’re talking about the Soviet union supplying Iraq years before 2003.

OK the Iraqi army had a mixture of weapons from France and the Soviet Union in the 1970s. France had an agreement with Iraq and in the 1970s the vice president of Iraq was Saddam Hussein and he visited France and was treated with respect. There was a time when Iraq was respected by the west, and it was rightfully so because of what they were doing for women and Christians. It was a very honorable thing.



And of course we all know in the 1980s the United States supplied Iraq with resources to fight against Iran. So there you go.

By the time Iraq invaded Kuwait in the early 1990s. Iraq had received weapons and resources from the Soviet Union, France and United States.

 

[BlindBoo]

Russia could have given money or weapons to Iraq, which could’ve killed more American troops. But they did not. So it ain’t right that we’re supporting Ukrainian troops to kill Russians.

Russia has high-powered missiles. They even have many nuclear warheads imagine if they gave one to Iraq in 2003.

And Russia is a member of the UN security council.

The Russians do not want a conventional confrontation with the US Military, then or now.

"In the US's easy defeat of Saddam Hussein's army, Russia sees a lesson for its own conventional forces.

The Iraqi Army - which was cloned from the Red Army in the final decades of the Soviet Union - mounted only a feeble defense before falling apart.

"The key conclusion we must draw from the latest Gulf war is that the obsolete structure of the Russian armed forces has to be urgently changed," says Vladimir Dvorkin, head of the Russian Defense Ministry's official think tank on strategic nuclear policy. "The gap between our capabilities and those of the Americans has been revealed, and it is vast. We are very lucky that Russia has no major enemies at the moment, but the future is impossible to predict, and we must be ready."

The swift victory by mobile, high-tech American forces over heavily armored Iraqi troops dug in to defend large cities like Baghdad has jolted many Russian military planners. "The Iraqi Army was a replica of the Russian Army, and its defeat was not predicted by our generals," says Vitaly Shlykov, a former deputy defense minister of Russia."

Iraqi defeat jolts Russian military

Defense and policy experts said last week that modernizing the Army is a top priority.

www.csmonitor.com

 

[justoffal]

Yet Russia did not give billions of dollars and powerful military equipment to the Iraqi military or the Ba’ath party in 2003. So what is America doing? Why are we doing this to Russia when they did not attack us. The whole thing goes against the ideals of the security council and the powers of World War II that fought for the allies. We’re not doing the right thing diplomatically by supporting Ukraine.

Supporting Ukrainian troops to kill Russians is an abomination. The Russians are fellow Christians.


. We live in a world where the United States has supplied countless billions of dollars and high-powered weapons to Ukraine. That is a major problem. It is true that neo-Nazis fight for Ukraine. They even honored one at the Canadian Parliament another disgrace, any which way somebody who supports American values looks at it from. … that’s not a joke or “Russian propaganda” it happened and it is quite mind-boggling

I’ve even seen some so-called supporters of the Jewish state of Israel support Ukraine. It goes to show how fake and inhumane those supporters of Israel are. They’re literally supporting Nazis. It’s unbelievable.

Even more mind-boggling, that Black Lives Matter people still support Ukraine even with the neo-Nazi problem. They act like none of it matters like that Nazi, who is given a standing ovation in the Canadian parliament means nothing. Imagine for a moment and actual person in a KKK uniform standing up getting praised by BLM Democrats for fighting Russia.

It’s an Outrage when you think about it about the fake Democrats, they support for BLM. They claim the stand up for minorities, but they never really do.

Anyway, if the USA giving countless billions and weapons to Ukraine. If it wasn’t for that, I wouldn’t be so adamant about my position. It is only because of what the USA is doing and what our country is doing is not right it serves no purpose to benefit Americans.

Blacks are treated like animals in Ukraine.

 

[justoffal]

Let’s not get personal here and have an actual polite discussion

The point is that in 2003 the Russian Federation did not supply Iraq and they could have. Imagine if they gave him a nuclear warhead. You’re talking about the Soviet union supplying Iraq years before 2003.

OK the Iraqi army had a mixture of weapons from France and the Soviet Union in the 1970s. France had an agreement with Iraq and in the 1970s the vice president of Iraq was Saddam Hussein and he visited France and was treated with respect. There was a time when Iraq was respected by the west, and it was rightfully so because of what they were doing for women and Christians. It was a very honorable thing.



And of course we all know in the 1980s the United States supplied Iraq with resources to fight against Iran. So there you go.

By the time Iraq invaded Kuwait in the early 1990s. Iraq had received weapons and resources from the Soviet Union, France and United States.

The defense of Ukraine is due

Because they have very little to sanction us with. They're basically a gas station masquerading as a Country. We've bought a little oil from them but who haven't we bought oil from?

Russia is run like a business....sanctions do not play a part in that business. That simple.

Jo

 

[boevans]

Sanctins against Russia are morally good and celebrates our relationship with Russia in WWII.

 

[justoffal]

Far as I recall, Russia was allied with Iraq or neutral toward them. This occurs sometimes when it comes to world diplomacy. Because the United States has also worked with allies in the Middle East, who were at odds with Israel remember that. Recall that the United States was allied with Iraq against Iran in the 1980s, at the same time, Iraq and Israel were enemies of each other.

And recall that the United States was allies with the gulf countries, which at one time were against Israel although now, those countries are friendly with each other.

And there’s other examples of the United States being allies with a country that is also allies with an opponent of the USA. So this topic you bring up is found all over the world.

The thing is the United States has given Ukraine someone hundred billion dollars along with powerful weapons. That is a massive deal. And it’s a hell of a lot more perhaps than what certain countries of the world have done to help their allies in a time of war.

But I think everyone gonna agree Ukraine is not a democracy. They have a state ran media, they suppress freedom of religion, and they have recently canceled elections. If people wanted to support Ukraine, that is their right. Some people support, monarchy, communist countries, and dictatorship that’s up to them.

But for the types of liberals in America, who believe that “Ukraine is a democracy” that is really the definition of being uninformed or willingly believing a lie to make themselves feel better

Ukraine is money bonanza for US politicians of both stripes. Notably....Mitt Romney's sons have businesses there as do many other elected officials. They also control the Media. Ergo the message we receive will be all positive because that's what the grifters in DC want you to hear.

The truth is no doubt somewhere in the middle.

Should Ukraine now send high school students to the front lines? That's next Im hearing.

Jo

 

[busybee01]

When we invaded Iraq in 2003 Russia did not sanction us. So for us to sanction Russia for invading Ukraine is the epitome of stupidity and cruelty…. It serves no American purpose. It’s not helping the common American man. Russia has zero interest in attacking America. America has zero interest in attacking Russia. The whole thing is a joke.



Talking with Russian people in Thailand, you see all sorts of opinions… some of them support their war others don’t. It was the same in America in 2003 when we invaded Iraq.

Russians can’t use their ATM cards on international trips because of international sanctions due to their invasion of Ukraine,. This constitutes cruel and inhumane punishment.

American people were not punished like this when our country invaded Iraq in 2003. Americans could travel where they wanted and use their debit cards freely.

Supporting Ukraine begs a few questions ….It’s one thing they probably view Iraqi Arabs as subhuman. And then they view the white Ukrainians as angels. That’s part of the issue goes to show the hypocrisy of the Ukraine supporter who is often the supporter of BLM. They did not show any sort of support for the Iraqi people as they are with the Ukrainian people.

You are a treasonous traitor. We should sanction Russia because Putin is no different than Hitler. He is a thug who kills his opponents and targets civilians. We should send Ukraine the deadliest weapons we can send them so they can kill as many Russian troops as possible. We were right to invade Iraq.

Tough shit Charlie.

 

[busybee01]

That’s a point to support Russia or at least to be neutral. Because this thing goes back to 2014 some Americans are not aware that the Ukraine government bombed their own people in eastern Ukraine in 2014 and Russia supported those people in eastern Ukraine.

I mean, there is a chunk of Americans who have no idea that this situation goes back years. They literally think that Russia invaded Ukraine in feb 2022 for of the hell of it.

You are a lying weasel. People like you need to be removed from this country.

 

[Moonglow]

When we invaded Iraq in 2003 Russia did not sanction us. So for us to sanction Russia for invading Ukraine is the epitome of stupidity and cruelty…. It serves no American purpose. It’s not helping the common American man. Russia has zero interest in attacking America. America has zero interest in attacking Russia. The whole thing is a joke.



Talking with Russian people in Thailand, you see all sorts of opinions… some of them support their war others don’t. It was the same in America in 2003 when we invaded Iraq.

Russians can’t use their ATM cards on international trips because of international sanctions due to their invasion of Ukraine,. This constitutes cruel and inhumane punishment.

American people were not punished like this when our country invaded Iraq in 2003. Americans could travel where they wanted and use their debit cards freely.

Supporting Ukraine begs a few questions ….It’s one thing they probably view Iraqi Arabs as subhuman. And then they view the white Ukrainians as angels. That’s part of the issue goes to show the hypocrisy of the Ukraine supporter who is often the supporter of BLM. They did not show any sort of support for the Iraqi people as they are with the Ukrainian people.

Russia is not the USSR.

 

[Ringo]

 

[justoffal]

Who can blame them? The No good scoundrelous picpocketing thieves that run the fed have turned the dollar into a castigated currency joke.