An Elizabeth Warren Quote Spreading On Social Media; Any Brainy Responses?

[Where_r_my_Keys]

That's false.

ROFLMNAO!

Dumbass... Your graph speaks to income taxes. Income tax on shit-for-income is MEANINGLESS.

Sales tax, excise tax, fuel tax, property tax, communication taxes... taxes of an ENDLESS variety.

There is not a single middle class human being who SPENDS MONEY in this country who does not have THE MAJORITY OF THEIR EARNINGS SEPARATED FROM THEM BY TAXATION!

And THAT is due to the EVER INCREASING COST OF GOVERNMENT! Do yourself a favor and take a gander at your cellphone bill... Dial out the taxes you pay on that ALONE.

That should help ya through this.

Now back to the point you sought to avoid:

Taxation, due to the cost of sustaining the US Federal, State and Local Government has forced both adults to work. Because the monies stripped from their earnings through all taxation, now consumes more than 50% of each earners check. Now this is a very complex calculus... but extrapolate from the data, what happens when two people are at issue; wherein one person used to earn 100%, but today that one person nets half as much as one person used to earn.

(Recall, that you're solving for: "Why do both people in a Union of one man and one woman now need to work, where BEFORE only ONE PERSON WAS REQUIRED?")

GO!

 

[Papageorgio]

WOW! Bonuses like that to the Uber-Rich probably make the repubs very happy!

Does this mean you will not be voting for a woman that gets 300K or more for giving a speech.

She is also willing to increase the amount of taxes she pays on that $300K

Something Republicans aren't

Why do you say that? Nothing prevents her from doing that now and I am willing to bet that she, like Buffett take every deduction possible. It's a lot of talk, no action.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

And THAT reader... is how THAT is done.

 

[Seawytch]

The standard of living is not a constant. The modern standard of living for today's American family, even for the "poor", is higher than its ever been. Much of this is due advancements in technology. We have lots of stuff today to make life easier that we didn't have just a few years ago.

A single wage earner today can easily support a family today at a 1950's standard of living. Own only one car, live in a small house with only one restroom, no computer, no cable TV or Internet, no air condition, low heating bill because of the small house. The wife stays home to take care of the kids so the family is not paying for daycare. The wife also pinches the pennies when shopping for food and cloths. The kids don't get tons of toys that they break quickly and get thrown away. I could go on and on.

No question my grandfather could not afford a computer or a cell phone

But he worked as a painter going to muster every day to pick up work. He was able to afford a house, a new car every seven years, healthcare and a retirement at 60.

A standard today's worker can't match

Houses in those days were half the size of modern houses. The didn't have granite counter tops, side-by-side refrigerators, chef style gas ranges, crown molding, brick pavers or swimming pools. Your father's new car didn't have air-conditioning, power windows, power door locks, ABS breaks, airbags, cruise control, premium sound, GPS or leather upholstery. Right up until the day he died my father bought cars without any these modern contrivances (except for the airbags) because he considered them to be extravagant luxuries.

Are you trying to say the working poor are poor because they have spent all their money on the things you listed? You see how stupid that is, don't you?

Off topic comment; I have noticed that clown avatars are starting to go out of style with the left wing posters.

Fashion is everything.

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I have most of them on ignore

Which will happen to anyone who confronts her with facts and logic she cannot counter.

 

[JimH52]

WOW! Bonuses like that to the Uber-Rich probably make the repubs very happy!

Does this mean you will not be voting for a woman that gets 300K or more for giving a speech.

She is also willing to increase the amount of taxes she pays on that $300K

Something Republicans aren't

Why do you say that? Nothing prevents her from doing that now and I am willing to bet that she, like Buffett take every deduction possible. It's a lot of talk, no action.

County the Repubs on the list

Warren Buffett Bill Gates Giving Pledge Gets 11 More Billionaires To Pledge Half Of Wealth

 

[percysunshine]

WOW! Bonuses like that to the Uber-Rich probably make the repubs very happy!

Does this mean you will not be voting for a woman that gets 300K or more for giving a speech.

She is also willing to increase the amount of taxes she pays on that $300K

Something Republicans aren't

Why do you say that? Nothing prevents her from doing that now and I am willing to bet that she, like Buffett take every deduction possible. It's a lot of talk, no action.

County the Repubs on the list

Warren Buffett Bill Gates Giving Pledge Gets 11 More Billionaires To Pledge Half Of Wealth

The weirdest thing about socialists is that they can convince themselves that Warren Buffet and Bill Gates are examples of middle class tax payers.

Y'all are a riot of fun....

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[Where_r_my_Keys]

Which will happen to anyone who confronts her with facts and logic she cannot counter.

Well I have 50 or so people on ignore.

Not a single one was sent there because they advance sound reason, which is difficult to contest. Those people are SPECIFICALLY SOUGHT AFTER.

To the individual, each person sent to ignore, was sent there SPECIFICALLY for their CONSISTENT INABILITY to offer a viable contest.

Sassy is an effective advocate of her position... She demonstrates this consistently. Ignore is a valid means of policing the discourse, when it is used objectively.

 

[NYcarbineer]

That's false.

ROFLMNAO!

Dumbass... Your graph speaks to income taxes. Income tax on shit-for-income is MEANINGLESS.

Sales tax, excise tax, fuel tax, property tax, communication taxes... taxes of an ENDLESS variety.

There is not a single middle class human being who SPENDS MONEY in this country who does not have THE MAJORITY OF THEIR EARNINGS SEPARATED FROM THEM BY TAXATION!

And THAT is due to the EVER INCREASING COST OF GOVERNMENT! Do yourself a favor and take a gander at your cellphone bill... Dial out the taxes you pay on that ALONE.

That should help ya through this.

Now back to the point you sought to avoid:

Taxation, due to the cost of sustaining the US Federal, State and Local Government has forced both adults to work. Because the monies stripped from their earnings through all taxation, now consumes more than 50% of each earners check. Now this is a very complex calculus... but extrapolate from the data, what happens when two people are at issue; wherein one person used to earn 100%, but today that one person nets half as much as one person used to earn.

(Recall, that you're solving for: "Why do both people in a Union of one man and one woman now need to work, where BEFORE only ONE PERSON WAS REQUIRED?")

GO!

Go ahead. Post some evidence.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

"The total amount of money that Wall Street handed out in BONUSES last year was DOUBLE the total income of ALL FULL TIME Minimum Wage Workers. That's obscene.. ~Elizabeth Warren

Any significant brainy responses to this?

I think in the end of this discussion, most people will notice our Economy was exactly like it was just before the Great Depression. A few had it all and the majority had little. What's sad is the poor people are fighting for their own poverty, they think they will get paid more if their employers aren't restricted by Big Gov......Yea, Your employer is using you like a tool to lower restrictions to make even more profits and make you more poor. Thanks for playing.

Small business will not make it into this discussion because it didn't have enough $ to buy politicians.

The correct answers are (a) that you will not be able to recognize a brainy response and (b) the factoid quoted by Warren, if true, is neither of any particular interest or utility and it is certainly none of her business.

 

[Two Thumbs]

"The total amount of money that Wall Street handed out in BONUSES last year was DOUBLE the total income of ALL FULL TIME Minimum Wage Workers. That's obscene.. ~Elizabeth Warren

Any significant brainy responses to this?

I think in the end of this discussion, most people will notice our Economy was exactly like it was just before the Great Depression. A few had it all and the majority had little. What's sad is the poor people are fighting for their own poverty, they think they will get paid more if their employers aren't restricted by Big Gov......Yea, Your employer is using you like a tool to lower restrictions to make even more profits and make you more poor. Thanks for playing.

Small business will not make it into this discussion because it didn't have enough $ to buy politicians.

I'd ask her for a link to a source that wasn't paid by her or and dnc hack

then laugh when she couldn't cough it up

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

That's false.

ROFLMNAO!

Dumbass... Your graph speaks to income taxes. Income tax on shit-for-income is MEANINGLESS.

Sales tax, excise tax, fuel tax, property tax, communication taxes... taxes of an ENDLESS variety.

There is not a single middle class human being who SPENDS MONEY in this country who does not have THE MAJORITY OF THEIR EARNINGS SEPARATED FROM THEM BY TAXATION!

And THAT is due to the EVER INCREASING COST OF GOVERNMENT! Do yourself a favor and take a gander at your cellphone bill... Dial out the taxes you pay on that ALONE.

That should help ya through this.

Now back to the point you sought to avoid:

Taxation, due to the cost of sustaining the US Federal, State and Local Government has forced both adults to work. Because the monies stripped from their earnings through all taxation, now consumes more than 50% of each earners check. Now this is a very complex calculus... but extrapolate from the data, what happens when two people are at issue; wherein one person used to earn 100%, but today that one person nets half as much as one person used to earn.

(Recall, that you're solving for: "Why do both people in a Union of one man and one woman now need to work, where BEFORE only ONE PERSON WAS REQUIRED?")

GO!

Go ahead. Post some evidence.

WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER!

Your concession is duly noted and summarily accepted.

(The Reader should recognize that the would-be 'contributor', cited above is incapable of recognizing what a human being with the qualities of EXISTING, MUST RECOGNIZED, wherein they earn a living, the earning so which ARE TAXED and subsequently BUY PRODUCTS AND SERVICES, SUCH AS FOOD, CLOTHING AND SHELTER WHICH ARE TAXED, LIVING ON PROPERTY WHICH IS TAXED, USE COMMUNICATION SYSTEMS, CONSUME FUEL, WHICH ARE TAXED... and so on and so forth, throughout every single facet of their entirely taxed LIFE.

As I have noted many times, what we're witnessing in the position advanced above, presents as an idiosyncratic belief or impression that is firmly maintained despite being contradicted by what is generally accepted as reality or rational argument, typically a symptom of mental disorder; OKA: Delusion.)

 

[Rozman]

So minimum wage earners should earn as much as a trader or exectutive on Wall Street?

 

[LeftofLeft]

Haven't we been running this "attack the 1 percent " playbook for the past 8 years? Who got punished? The Middle Class and Small Business entrepreneurs. Read any Socialist or Communist theories and there is no room for a Middle Class or small independent business.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

This thread is yet another classic example of the Fundamental Principles of defeating Leftists in debate:

1- Find a Leftist.

2- Get them to speak.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

"The total amount of money that Wall Street handed out in BONUSES last year was DOUBLE the total income of ALL FULL TIME Minimum Wage Workers. That's obscene.. ~Elizabeth Warren

Any significant brainy responses to this?

I think in the end of this discussion, most people will notice our Economy was exactly like it was just before the Great Depression. A few had it all and the majority had little. What's sad is the poor people are fighting for their own poverty, they think they will get paid more if their employers aren't restricted by Big Gov......Yea, Your employer is using you like a tool to lower restrictions to make even more profits and make you more poor. Thanks for playing.

Small business will not make it into this discussion because it didn't have enough $ to buy politicians.

Warren is an idiot.

What's sad is the poor people are fighting for their own poverty,

I agree, poor workers voting for libs are voting to put themselves out of work.
Obama could help poor workers by sealing the border and deporting illegals,
but that would give unskilled and low skilled Americans higher wages.

 

[Papageorgio]

WOW! Bonuses like that to the Uber-Rich probably make the repubs very happy!

Does this mean you will not be voting for a woman that gets 300K or more for giving a speech.

She is also willing to increase the amount of taxes she pays on that $300K

Something Republicans aren't

Why do you say that? Nothing prevents her from doing that now and I am willing to bet that she, like Buffett take every deduction possible. It's a lot of talk, no action.

County the Repubs on the list

Warren Buffett Bill Gates Giving Pledge Gets 11 More Billionaires To Pledge Half Of Wealth

You said TAXES, did you not? They are allowed by law to give more in taxes and yet they take all deductibles. They are disingenuous as are you.

Which charities do they donate to? Their own? Lol!

Also giving half their wealth, what does that mean? What they earn a year? What they currently have, which none have done. So what does it really mean? I also bet any charity they contribute to, they take the full deduction. Which goes back to how insincere they are.

 

[Clementine]

When has anyone earning minimum wage ever been able to afford to live on his own and support a family? This miracle sure never occurred when I was making minimum wage.

When someone is trying to live on minimum and support a family, it means something went terribly wrong.

Many of us had minimum wage jobs as teens. They are meant for stepping stones to the better jobs and they are designed to build your resume and establish a good work history. Finishing high school is a must if you want to get anywhere and going to college is easier than ever with loans. Yea, loans suck, but once you have that degree you qualify for better jobs. Few can just write a check to the college to pay tuition, so whether you came from a dirt poor family or middle class you can still get loans and start paying them after you graduate. Once you graduate college, you are equal to other grads regardless of how poor you were growing up. Many colleges now help with job hunting, so there are few excuses for not having any kind of diploma and experience.

Of course, so many middle class jobs have disappeared and people started fighting for the minimum jobs because those are all that's left in some places. You have a choice between minimum wage or jobs that require higher skills. Seems most can't qualify for the better jobs and that is on them. Raising the starter jobs pay to the level of better jobs isn't going to help in the long run. As always, there will end up being fewer jobs up for grabs.

If the left would let up on middle class and quit killing businesses, it would be easier for those with an education to find something that will earn them a better living.

Why do some insist on begging government to raise them up instead of doing something for themselves, like at least finish high school?

Some jobs, like meat packing plants, used to offer good wages and people got raises each year. Once the companies started hiring illegals, wages dropped and haven't come back up.

 

[NYcarbineer]

That's false.

ROFLMNAO!

Dumbass... Your graph speaks to income taxes. Income tax on shit-for-income is MEANINGLESS.

Sales tax, excise tax, fuel tax, property tax, communication taxes... taxes of an ENDLESS variety.

There is not a single middle class human being who SPENDS MONEY in this country who does not have THE MAJORITY OF THEIR EARNINGS SEPARATED FROM THEM BY TAXATION!

And THAT is due to the EVER INCREASING COST OF GOVERNMENT! Do yourself a favor and take a gander at your cellphone bill... Dial out the taxes you pay on that ALONE.

That should help ya through this.

Now back to the point you sought to avoid:

Taxation, due to the cost of sustaining the US Federal, State and Local Government has forced both adults to work. Because the monies stripped from their earnings through all taxation, now consumes more than 50% of each earners check. Now this is a very complex calculus... but extrapolate from the data, what happens when two people are at issue; wherein one person used to earn 100%, but today that one person nets half as much as one person used to earn.

(Recall, that you're solving for: "Why do both people in a Union of one man and one woman now need to work, where BEFORE only ONE PERSON WAS REQUIRED?")

GO!

Go ahead. Post some evidence.

WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER!

Your concession is duly noted and summarily accepted.

(The Reader should recognize that the would-be 'contributor', cited above is incapable of recognizing what a human being with the qualities of EXISTING, MUST RECOGNIZED, wherein they earn a living, the earning so which ARE TAXED and subsequently BUY PRODUCTS AND SERVICES, SUCH AS FOOD, CLOTHING AND SHELTER WHICH ARE TAXED, LIVING ON PROPERTY WHICH IS TAXED, USE COMMUNICATION SYSTEMS, CONSUME FUEL, WHICH ARE TAXED... and so on and so forth, throughout every single facet of their entirely taxed LIFE.

As I have noted many times, what we're witnessing in the position advanced above, presents as an idiosyncratic belief or impression that is firmly maintained despite being contradicted by what is generally accepted as reality or rational argument, typically a symptom of mental disorder; OKA: Delusion.)

You haven't posted one shred of evidence to support your claim.

Here's more to support mine:

State and local tax burdens, 1977 to 2011.

As you will see in the rates at the left in the charts, the rates have not gone up.

State and Local Tax Burdens All Years One State 1977 - 2011 Tax Foundation

 

[NYcarbineer]

When has anyone earning minimum wage ever been able to afford to live on his own and support a family? This miracle sure never occurred when I was making minimum wage.

When someone is trying to live on minimum and support a family, it means something went terribly wrong.

Many of us had minimum wage jobs as teens. They are meant for stepping stones to the better jobs and they are designed to build your resume and establish a good work history. Finishing high school is a must if you want to get anywhere and going to college is easier than ever with loans. Yea, loans suck, but once you have that degree you qualify for better jobs. Few can just write a check to the college to pay tuition, so whether you came from a dirt poor family or middle class you can still get loans and start paying them after you graduate. Once you graduate college, you are equal to other grads regardless of how poor you were growing up. Many colleges now help with job hunting, so there are few excuses for not having any kind of diploma and experience.

Of course, so many middle class jobs have disappeared and people started fighting for the minimum jobs because those are all that's left in some places. You have a choice between minimum wage or jobs that require higher skills. Seems most can't qualify for the better jobs and that is on them. Raising the starter jobs pay to the level of better jobs isn't going to help in the long run. As always, there will end up being fewer jobs up for grabs.

If the left would let up on middle class and quit killing businesses, it would be easier for those with an education to find something that will earn them a better living.

Why do some insist on begging government to raise them up instead of doing something for themselves, like at least finish high school?

Just raise the minimum wage to 1969 levels, adjusted for inflation,

unless you think the minimum wage was too high in 1969.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Faux Indian Warren, bka, Crazy Whore.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

When has anyone earning minimum wage ever been able to afford to live on his own and support a family? This miracle sure never occurred when I was making minimum wage.

When someone is trying to live on minimum and support a family, it means something went terribly wrong.

Many of us had minimum wage jobs as teens. They are meant for stepping stones to the better jobs and they are designed to build your resume and establish a good work history. Finishing high school is a must if you want to get anywhere and going to college is easier than ever with loans. Yea, loans suck, but once you have that degree you qualify for better jobs. Few can just write a check to the college to pay tuition, so whether you came from a dirt poor family or middle class you can still get loans and start paying them after you graduate. Once you graduate college, you are equal to other grads regardless of how poor you were growing up. Many colleges now help with job hunting, so there are few excuses for not having any kind of diploma and experience.

Of course, so many middle class jobs have disappeared and people started fighting for the minimum jobs because those are all that's left in some places. You have a choice between minimum wage or jobs that require higher skills. Seems most can't qualify for the better jobs and that is on them. Raising the starter jobs pay to the level of better jobs isn't going to help in the long run. As always, there will end up being fewer jobs up for grabs.

If the left would let up on middle class and quit killing businesses, it would be easier for those with an education to find something that will earn them a better living.

Why do some insist on begging government to raise them up instead of doing something for themselves, like at least finish high school?

Just raise the minimum wage to 1969 levels, adjusted for inflation,

unless you think the minimum wage was too high in 1969.

What would that be?
Show your math.