Another day another 1000 point loss on Wall Street during the Trump presidency

[Pogo]

If anybody's actually invested, at last look the market's down about 400 points today, putting it about the level it was in mid-November. Everything added since then has now been subtracted.

 

[leftwinger]

If anybody's actually invested, at last look the market's down about 400 points today, putting it about the level it was in mid-November. Everything added since then has now been subtracted.

I looked it up (and posted) once upon a time. From memory, DOW was ~18332 on the election day. Now it is down from record close in JAN 2017 by ~11%?

 

[Pogo]

If anybody's actually invested, at last look the market's down about 400 points today, putting it about the level it was in mid-November. Everything added since then has now been subtracted.

I looked it up (and posted) once upon a time. From memory, DOW was ~18332 on the election day. Now it is down from record close in JAN 2017 by ~11%?

Yeah about 12% right now, 3200 points.

I like to frame it as a time reference --- right now we're back around November 20 of last year.

 

[Thinker101]

If anybody's actually invested, at last look the market's down about 400 points today, putting it about the level it was in mid-November. Everything added since then has now been subtracted.

Yeah sorry, doesn't quite work like that.

 

[Pogo]

If anybody's actually invested, at last look the market's down about 400 points today, putting it about the level it was in mid-November. Everything added since then has now been subtracted.

Yeah sorry, doesn't quite work like that.

Then please, expound.

 

[Thinker101]

If anybody's actually invested, at last look the market's down about 400 points today, putting it about the level it was in mid-November. Everything added since then has now been subtracted.

Yeah sorry, doesn't quite work like that.

Then please, expound.

Some go up, some go down and the Dow changes primarily by 30 stocks.

 

[Pogo]

If anybody's actually invested, at last look the market's down about 400 points today, putting it about the level it was in mid-November. Everything added since then has now been subtracted.

Yeah sorry, doesn't quite work like that.

Then please, expound.

Some go up, some go down and the Dow changes primarily by 30 stocks.

No shit. I've been watching those ups and downs like anyone else. How does that address my post?

There are indeed 30 constituents in the Dow. My investments don't involve any of them directly. Yet they've gone the same direction as the index in roughly the same proportion. If you think that isn't the case across the board then you have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[Thinker101]

If anybody's actually invested, at last look the market's down about 400 points today, putting it about the level it was in mid-November. Everything added since then has now been subtracted.

Yeah sorry, doesn't quite work like that.

Then please, expound.

Some go up, some go down and the Dow changes primarily by 30 stocks.

No shit. I've been watching those ups and downs like anyone else. How does that address my post?

That being said, some stocks have gone up. So if you, for example, had invested it may have gone up while someone elses may have gone down, which negates your idea that everything added has now been subtracted.

 

[TheGreenHornet]

How Stalin and Hitler contributed to America's great depression.


The price Stalin paid for a modernised army


'The armaments makers and their friends had not respected the Russian army as a fighting force in World War I and could not believe that Russia would ever pose a threat to Germany. Horrified at the arrival of a socialist coalition government in power in the German Reichstag, in 1928, they longed for the return of the monarchy, or if the German people would not accept it, a man of the people like Italy’s Mussolini, who would maintain their power and influence. They decided to help Stalin on two conditions; the first was that he paid for his precious armaments in hard currency and the second, crucially, that the German Communists never voted again with the Social Democrats in the Reichstag.

How the American ‘dust bowl’ was caused?


Neither demand could have been fulfilled except by a man of Stalin’s iron will. The Soviet Union was practically bankrupt. There was no way of paying for Germany’s goods except through selling wheat on world markets and Russia’s kulak farmers refused to surrender their wheat to Stalin in return for worthless currency. However, Krupp had already created a giant farm in the North Caucasus to help Lenin export wheat so that he could buy German trains. So Stalin decided to expel his Kulak farmers to the icy wastes of Siberia and to create giant farms himself. He was successful. While the kulaks died of cold and starvation, an avalanche of Soviet wheat hit unsuspecting already overprovided world markets in 1930 and 1931, at rock-bottom prices, causing misery and bankruptcy in America’s important farming sector.'

How Stalin helped Hitler’s rise to Power | How Hitler Came to Power

“Will Keynes Be Buried Once and for All” by Mark Littlewood – Comments from Sara Moore, Author of “How Hitler Came To Power” | How Hitler Came to Power

 

[Wry Catcher]

and in every time he showed his face on tv didn't he brag about his dow and how great it was since he became president? But when the shit hits the fan the coward is nowhere to be found,,,,His life story His team of lawyers aren't here to protect him

I really don't care. I work in the financial sector and unlike you I actually have a fairly good understanding of how the markets work and react. Long term, the economy is in good shape, although the debt is concerning.

You're right it is in good shape AS IT WAS under OBAMA Trump should kiss Obamas butt

So Obama is responsible for the DOW dropping?

Just for kicks What if Obama left the same kind of economy to Drumpf as GWB left to him ?? And aren't you tired of trump blowing his horn every day?? I find it sickening

BO Left with $10T added debt + $4T Fed printing. That is a lot to unwind. Will need to grow the GDP. Trump policies show great promise to do just that.

Congress could have stopped some of that $10T but they are in on the game. They are still doing it.

Which "Trump policies" and have you ever considered the cost-deficits of his regime?

 

[Pogo]

If anybody's actually invested, at last look the market's down about 400 points today, putting it about the level it was in mid-November. Everything added since then has now been subtracted.

Yeah sorry, doesn't quite work like that.

Then please, expound.

Some go up, some go down and the Dow changes primarily by 30 stocks.

No shit. I've been watching those ups and downs like anyone else. How does that address my post?

That being said, some stocks have gone up. So if you, for example, had invested it may have gone up while someone elses may have gone down, which negates your idea that everything added has now been subtracted.

Yeah?

What stocks have gone up?

And I don't mean cherrypicking Dollar Tree today, I mean over these last two weeks. What's gone up?

 

[eddiew37]

If anybody's actually invested, at last look the market's down about 400 points today, putting it about the level it was in mid-November. Everything added since then has now been subtracted.

market fluctuating,,, going crazy ........like trump

 

[Pogo]

If anybody's actually invested, at last look the market's down about 400 points today, putting it about the level it was in mid-November. Everything added since then has now been subtracted.

market fluctuating,,, going crazy ........like trump

I see an analogy here. Rump creates his Fraud University to "sell feelings", gets caught, and once his marks catch on that they've been had, Rump has to pay out 25 million bucks in settlement.

Fast-forward to 2017, Rump creates illusions for the market, again "selling feelings", market catches on that it's been had, has to pay out 3200 points and counting.

Either could have been avoided if people would just quit buying snake oil.

 

[OldLady]

So how do we know when to start worrying? I read somewhere yesterday that a 12% dive was what happened in October 1929. Yesterday it was called a "correction," at a little over a 10% drop.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Dow rebounds slightly Friday, still down 6% for the week

 

[Issa]

Yeah sorry, doesn't quite work like that.

Then please, expound.

Some go up, some go down and the Dow changes primarily by 30 stocks.

No shit. I've been watching those ups and downs like anyone else. How does that address my post?

That being said, some stocks have gone up. So if you, for example, had invested it may have gone up while someone elses may have gone down, which negates your idea that everything added has now been subtracted.

Yeah?

What stocks have gone up?

And I don't mean cherrypicking Dollar Tree today, I mean over these last two weeks. What's gone up?

Twtr lol

 

[eddiew37]

If anybody's actually invested, at last look the market's down about 400 points today, putting it about the level it was in mid-November. Everything added since then has now been subtracted.

market fluctuating,,, going crazy ........like trump

I see an analogy here. Rump creates his Fraud University to "sell feelings", gets caught, and once his marks catch on that they've been had, Rump has to pay out 25 million bucks in settlement.

Fast-forward to 2017, Rump creates illusions for the market, again "selling feelings", market catches on that it's been had, has to pay out 3200 points and counting.

Either could have been avoided if people would just quit buying snake oil.

Wasn't there a judge he paid off {gave a donation} in that Dump U case?

 

[Pogo]

If anybody's actually invested, at last look the market's down about 400 points today, putting it about the level it was in mid-November. Everything added since then has now been subtracted.

market fluctuating,,, going crazy ........like trump

I see an analogy here. Rump creates his Fraud University to "sell feelings", gets caught, and once his marks catch on that they've been had, Rump has to pay out 25 million bucks in settlement.

Fast-forward to 2017, Rump creates illusions for the market, again "selling feelings", market catches on that it's been had, has to pay out 3200 points and counting.

Either could have been avoided if people would just quit buying snake oil.

Wasn't there a judge he paid off {gave a donation} in that Dump U case?

He agreed to the judge's settlement offer --- after of course vowing he'd never do that, which then becomes an unstatement that never happened --- and did it after the election and before the Electoral College could meet so that they couldn't consider a man with an active fraud case.

That was the same judge, born and raised in Indiana, that Rump earlier described as biased because he was "Mexican".

 

[Thinker101]

Yeah sorry, doesn't quite work like that.

Then please, expound.

Some go up, some go down and the Dow changes primarily by 30 stocks.

No shit. I've been watching those ups and downs like anyone else. How does that address my post?

That being said, some stocks have gone up. So if you, for example, had invested it may have gone up while someone elses may have gone down, which negates your idea that everything added has now been subtracted.

Yeah?

What stocks have gone up?

And I don't mean cherrypicking Dollar Tree today, I mean over these last two weeks. What's gone up?

Of the better known names Amazon and Tesla seem to be doing well, even though Amazon was down today.

 

[eddiew37]

So how do we know when to start worrying? I read somewhere yesterday that a 12% dive was what happened in October 1929. Yesterday it was called a "correction," at a little over a 10% drop.

some are saying because of a quick correction we can look forwards to a good market Maybe not in a day maybe not in a week but in 4 ,5 months we'll be higher There is no signs of inflation,, interest rates are low people have more money in their pockets, earnings are good . I was a buyer yesterday and today but I don't day trade, I hold

 

[Pogo]

Then please, expound.

Some go up, some go down and the Dow changes primarily by 30 stocks.

No shit. I've been watching those ups and downs like anyone else. How does that address my post?

That being said, some stocks have gone up. So if you, for example, had invested it may have gone up while someone elses may have gone down, which negates your idea that everything added has now been subtracted.

Yeah?

What stocks have gone up?

And I don't mean cherrypicking Dollar Tree today, I mean over these last two weeks. What's gone up?

Of the better known names Amazon and Tesla seem to be doing well, even though Amazon was down today.

As it happens those two are on my watch list. Let's see how they did.

Amazon (AMZN)
January 26: 1402.05
Now: 1339.60

Tesla (TSLA)
January 26: 342.85
Now: 315.23

Not as bad as some but both still went with the low-flow.

Issa's correct, Twitter has actually gone up. But you'd have to be a loon to buy up Twitter.