Another Good Month On The Jobs Front...unemployment Drops To 5.9%

It was 4.6 the last time republicans had majority power, which they from 1994 to 2006. Not that rightwinger knew or cared.

How many full time jobs? How many in the private sector?

Yes, statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, what they conceal is vital.

Rightwinger is just a fucking ignorant hack
As long as the Senate has filibuster power and president has veto power, it takes a 2/3 majority in BOTH houses to override a presidential veto, so the Dems controlled NOTHING as long as Bush was president.

A perfect example is after the Dems won both houses they passed an increase in the minimum wage in the house. Bush was against it and threatened a veto if he didn't get more tax cuts for business. The GOP in the Senate filibustered the bill and the cloture vote failed with 43 Republicans voting against it. So once Bush got his tax cuts added to the bill it passed in the Senate. Bush and the GOP still controlled everything related to the economy and everything else with their filibuster and veto power. Bush and the GOP own the Bush Depression lock, stock and barrel!!!

You think Bush controlled everything related to the economy when the democrats owned the house and senate?

Do you even know who controls the purse strings?

When I get home I will show you how Bush warned 17 different times in 2008 alone about the housing bubble.

You have to be kidding. Much to your dismay, thebpreident is not a king. Raising the minimum wage would not have done a thing for the economy. That is yet another democrat liberal ploy to cause divisions in the classes and to make them look like Robinhood.
Talk is cheap, Bush may have given warnings, but the GOP blocked every attempt at reform.


Talk is cheap? That is funny. Why don't we go over exactly what was blocked.

You already brought the bullshit raise in minimum wage issue. I think it is pretty amusing to me how you do not see how the democrats use such issues in order to build the narrative that always works for them.

Raising the minimum wage does little to nothing for the economy and it is ignorant to even suggest that it would have impacted the real estate bubble. What, would those with a 9 dollar an hour job have paid their mortgages?

While you say talk is cheap, that is great.

Briefing Room The White House
Speaker Pelosi failed to mention was that President Bush warned the Democratic Congress 17 times in 2008 alone about the systemic consequences of financial turmoil at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and also put forward thoughtful plans to reduce the risk that either Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac would encounter such difficulties.

Unfortunately, these warnings went unheeded, as the President’s repeated attempts to reform the supervision of these entities were thwarted by the legislative maneuvering of those who emphatically denied there were problems.

The White House released this list of attempts by President Bush to reform Freddie Mae and Freddie Mac since he took office in 2001.
Unfortunately, Congress did not act on the president’s warnings:

** 2001

April: The Administration’s FY02 budget declares that the size of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac is “a potential problem,” because “financial trouble of a large GSE could cause strong repercussions in financial markets, affecting Federally insured entities and economic activity.”

** 2002

May: The President calls for the disclosure and corporate governance principles contained in his 10-point plan for corporate responsibility to apply to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. (OMB Prompt Letter to OFHEO, 5/29/02)

** 2003

January: Freddie Mac announces it has to restate financial results for the previous three years.

February: The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight (OFHEO) releases a report explaining that “although investors perceive an implicit Federal guarantee of [GSE] obligations,” “the government has provided no explicit legal backing for them.” As a consequence, unexpected problems at a GSE could immediately spread into financial sectors beyond the housing market. (“Systemic Risk: Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the Role of OFHEO,” OFHEO Report, 2/4/03)

September: Fannie Mae discloses SEC investigation and acknowledges OFHEO’s review found earnings manipulations.

September: Treasury Secretary John Snow testifies before the House Financial Services Committee to recommend that Congress enact “legislation to create a new Federal agency to regulate and supervise the financial activities of our housing-related government sponsored enterprises” and set prudent and appropriate minimum capital adequacy requirements.

October: Fannie Mae discloses $1.2 billion accounting error.

November: Council of the Economic Advisers (CEA) Chairman Greg Mankiw explains that any “legislation to reform GSE regulation should empower the new regulator with sufficient strength and credibility to reduce systemic risk.” To reduce the potential for systemic instability, the regulator would have “broad authority to set both risk-based and minimum capital standards” and “receivership powers necessary to wind down the affairs of a troubled GSE.” (N. Gregory Mankiw, Remarks At The Conference Of State Bank Supervisors State Banking Summit And Leadership, 11/6/03)

** 2004

February: The President’s FY05 Budget again highlights the risk posed by the explosive growth of the GSEs and their low levels of required capital, and called for creation of a new, world-class regulator: “The Administration has determined that the safety and soundness regulators of the housing GSEs lack sufficient power and stature to meet their responsibilities, and therefore…should be replaced with a new strengthened regulator.” (2005 Budget Analytic Perspectives, pg. 83)

February: CEA Chairman Mankiw cautions Congress to “not take [the financial market's] strength for granted.” Again, the call from the Administration was to reduce this risk by “ensuring that the housing GSEs are overseen by an effective regulator.” (N. Gregory Mankiw, Op-Ed, “Keeping Fannie And Freddie’s House In Order,” Financial Times, 2/24/04)

June: Deputy Secretary of Treasury Samuel Bodman spotlights the risk posed by the GSEs and called for reform, saying “We do not have a world-class system of supervision of the housing government sponsored enterprises (GSEs), even though the importance of the housing financial system that the GSEs serve demands the best in supervision to ensure the long-term vitality of that system. Therefore, the Administration has called for a new, first class, regulatory supervisor for the three housing GSEs: Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and the Federal Home Loan Banking System.” (Samuel Bodman, House Financial Services Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations Testimony, 6/16/04)

** 2005

April: Treasury Secretary John Snow repeats his call for GSE reform, saying “Events that have transpired since I testified before this Committee in 2003 reinforce concerns over the systemic risks posed by the GSEs and further highlight the need for real GSE reform to ensure that our housing finance system remains a strong and vibrant source of funding for expanding homeownership opportunities in America… Half-measures will only exacerbate the risks to our financial system.” (Secretary John W. Snow, “Testimony Before The U.S. House Financial Services Committee,” 4/13/05)

** 2007

July: Two Bear Stearns hedge funds invested in mortgage securities collapse.

August: President Bush emphatically calls on Congress to pass a reform package for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, saying “first things first when it comes to those two institutions. Congress needs to get them reformed, get them streamlined, get them focused, and then I will consider other options.” (President George W. Bush, Press Conference, The White House, 8/9/07)

September: RealtyTrac announces foreclosure filings up 243,000 in August – up 115 percent from the year before.

September: Single-family existing home sales decreases 7.5 percent from the previous month – the lowest level in nine years. Median sale price of existing homes fell six percent from the year before.

December: President Bush again warns Congress of the need to pass legislation reforming GSEs, saying “These institutions provide liquidity in the mortgage market that benefits millions of homeowners, and it is vital they operate safely and operate soundly. So I’ve called on Congress to pass legislation that strengthens independent regulation of the GSEs – and ensures they focus on their important housing mission. The GSE reform bill passed by the House earlier this year is a good start. But the Senate has not acted. And the United States Senate needs to pass this legislation soon.” (President George W. Bush, Discusses Housing, The White House, 12/6/07)

** 2008

January: Bank of America announces it will buy Countrywide.

January: Citigroup announces mortgage portfolio lost $18.1 billion in value.

February: Assistant Secretary David Nason reiterates the urgency of reforms, says “A new regulatory structure for the housing GSEs is essential if these entities are to continue to perform their public mission successfully.” (David Nason, Testimony On Reforming GSE Regulation, Senate Committee On Banking, Housing And Urban Affairs, 2/7/08)

March: Bear Stearns announces it will sell itself to JPMorgan Chase.

March: President Bush calls on Congress to take action and “move forward with reforms on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. They need to continue to modernize the FHA, as well as allow State housing agencies to issue tax-free bonds to homeowners to refinance their mortgages.” (President George W. Bush, Remarks To The Economic Club Of New York, New York, NY, 3/14/08)

April: President Bush urges Congress to pass the much needed legislation
and “modernize Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. [There are] constructive things Congress can do that will encourage the housing market to correct quickly by … helping people stay in their homes.” (President George W. Bush, Meeting With Cabinet, the White House, 4/14/08)

May: President Bush issues several pleas to Congress to pass legislation reforming Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac before the situation deteriorates further.

“Americans are concerned about making their mortgage payments and keeping their homes. Yet Congress has failed to pass legislation I have repeatedly requested to modernize the Federal Housing Administration that will help more families stay in their homes, reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to ensure they focus on their housing mission, and allow State housing agencies to issue tax-free bonds to refinance sub-prime loans.” (President George W. Bush, Radio Address, 5/3/08)

“[T]he government ought to be helping creditworthy people stay in their homes. And one way we can do that – and Congress is making progress on this – is the reform of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. That reform will come with a strong, independent regulator.” (President George W. Bush, Meeting With The Secretary Of The Treasury, the White House, 5/19/08)

“Congress needs to pass legislation to modernize the Federal Housing Administration, reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to ensure they focus on their housing mission, and allow State housing agencies to issue tax-free bonds to refinance subprime loans.” (President George W. Bush, Radio Address, 5/31/08)

June: As foreclosure rates continued to rise in the first quarter, the President once again asks Congress to take the necessary measures to address this challenge, saying “we need to pass legislation to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.” (President George W. Bush, Remarks At Swearing In Ceremony For Secretary Of Housing And Urban Development, Washington, D.C., 6/6/08)

July: Congress heeds the President’s call for action and passes reform of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as it becomes clear that the institutions are failing.

In 2005– Senator John McCain partnered with three other Senate Republicans to reform the government’s involvement in lending.
Democrats blocked this reform, too.

------------------------------------------

You liberals that love to blame BOOOOOOSH for the bubble bursting and cannot see that it was a bipartisan problem, then you are the hack. Factcheck.org also agrees it was bipartisan. No way is it all on BOOOOOSH.

Who Caused the Economic Crisis

There’s plenty of blame to go around, and it doesn’t fasten only on one party or even mainly on what Washington did or didn’t do. As The Economist magazine noted recently, the problem is one of "layered irresponsibility … with hard-working homeowners and billionaire villains each playing a role." Here’s a partial list of those alleged to be at fault:
  • The Federal Reserve, which slashed interest rates after the dot-com bubble burst, making credit cheap.
  • Home buyers, who took advantage of easy credit to bid up the prices of homes excessively.
  • Congress, which continues to support a mortgage tax deduction that gives consumers a tax incentive to buy more expensive houses.
  • Real estate agents, most of whom work for the sellers rather than the buyers and who earned higher commissions from selling more expensive homes.
  • The Clinton administration, which pushed for less stringent credit and downpayment requirements for working- and middle-class families.
  • Mortgage brokers, who offered less-credit-worthy home buyers subprime, adjustable rate loans with low initial payments, but exploding interest rates.
  • Former Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan, who in 2004, near the peak of the housing bubble, encouraged Americans to take out adjustable rate mortgages.
  • Wall Street firms, who paid too little attention to the quality of the risky loans that they bundled into Mortgage Backed Securities (MBS), and issued bonds using those securities as collateral.
  • The Bush administration, which failed to provide needed government oversight of the increasingly dicey mortgage-backed securities market.
  • An obscure accounting rule called mark-to-market, which can have the paradoxical result of making assets be worth less on paper than they are in reality during times of panic.
  • Collective delusion, or a belief on the part of all parties that home prices would keep rising forever, no matter how high or how fast they had already gone up.
The U.S. economy is enormously complicated. Screwing it up takes a great deal of cooperation. Claiming that a single piece of legislation was responsible for (or could have averted) the crisis is just political grandstanding. We have no advice to offer on how best to solve the financial crisis. But these sorts of partisan caricatures can only make the task more difficult.
 
This is the ratio of employed persons age 15 to 64. This chart will not update until January 2015 but the current rate is already over a full percent higher at 68.7% which is way above this chart.
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Talk is cheap? That is funny. Why don't we go over exactly what was blocked.

You already brought the bullshit raise in minimum wage issue. I think it is pretty amusing to me how you do not see how the democrats use such issues in order to build the narrative that always works for them.

Raising the minimum wage does little to nothing for the economy and it is ignorant to even suggest that it would have impacted the real estate bubble. What, would those with a 9 dollar an hour job have paid their mortgages?

While you say talk is cheap, that is great.

Briefing Room The White House
Speaker Pelosi failed to mention was that President Bush warned the Democratic Congress 17 times in 2008 alone about the systemic consequences of financial turmoil at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and also put forward thoughtful plans to reduce the risk that either Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac would encounter such difficulties.

Unfortunately, these warnings went unheeded, as the President’s repeated attempts to reform the supervision of these entities were thwarted by the legislative maneuvering of those who emphatically denied there were problems.

The White House released this list of attempts by President Bush to reform Freddie Mae and Freddie Mac since he took office in 2001.
Unfortunately, Congress did not act on the president’s warnings:

All this is bullshit. Bush was pushing for more & more subprime loans & holding down interest rates all the way until the bubble burst. Every politician talks out of both sides of their mouthes, but the facts are that Bush & the Repubs were full steam ahead on subprime until the shit hit the fan. They never ever took a vote or did a dam thing to to stop it. Stop crying & trying to shift the blame. Bush & Repubs held all branches of power while they destroyed 18 million jobs & crashed the economy.

Realtors, Lenders, Brokers, Bankers, Insurance Agents, etc are all financial profession who are supposed to act in a fiduciary manor for their clients or the entire financial system self destructs. Fiduciary responsibility was removed so the professionals screwed over unsuspecting workers investors & borrowers who are not sophisticated financial pros for their own financial gains. George Romney did the same thing in the 1970's & It has always happened every time it is allowed.
 
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Are liberals here denying the unemployment rate was 4.6 percent the last time the republicans had majority of the power?
Talk is cheap? That is funny. Why don't we go over exactly what was blocked.

You already brought the bullshit raise in minimum wage issue. I think it is pretty amusing to me how you do not see how the democrats use such issues in order to build the narrative that always works for them.

Raising the minimum wage does little to nothing for the economy and it is ignorant to even suggest that it would have impacted the real estate bubble. What, would those with a 9 dollar an hour job have paid their mortgages?

While you say talk is cheap, that is great.

Briefing Room The White House
Speaker Pelosi failed to mention was that President Bush warned the Democratic Congress 17 times in 2008 alone about the systemic consequences of financial turmoil at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and also put forward thoughtful plans to reduce the risk that either Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac would encounter such difficulties.

Unfortunately, these warnings went unheeded, as the President’s repeated attempts to reform the supervision of these entities were thwarted by the legislative maneuvering of those who emphatically denied there were problems.

The White House released this list of attempts by President Bush to reform Freddie Mae and Freddie Mac since he took office in 2001.
Unfortunately, Congress did not act on the president’s warnings:

All this is bullshit. Bush was pushing for more & more subprime loans & holding down interest rates all the way until the bubble burst. Every politician talks out of both sides of their mouthes, but the facts are that Bush & the Repubs were full steam ahead on subprime until the shit hit the fan. They never ever took a vote or did a dam thing to to stop it. Stop crying & trying to shift the blame. Bush & Repubs held all branches of power while they destroyed 18 million jobs & crashed the economy.


You are an absolute piece of brainwashed shit.
 
Are liberals here denying the unemployment rate was 4.6 percent the last time the republicans had majority of the power?
Talk is cheap? That is funny. Why don't we go over exactly what was blocked.

You already brought the bullshit raise in minimum wage issue. I think it is pretty amusing to me how you do not see how the democrats use such issues in order to build the narrative that always works for them.

Raising the minimum wage does little to nothing for the economy and it is ignorant to even suggest that it would have impacted the real estate bubble. What, would those with a 9 dollar an hour job have paid their mortgages?

While you say talk is cheap, that is great.

Briefing Room The White House
Speaker Pelosi failed to mention was that President Bush warned the Democratic Congress 17 times in 2008 alone about the systemic consequences of financial turmoil at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and also put forward thoughtful plans to reduce the risk that either Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac would encounter such difficulties.

Unfortunately, these warnings went unheeded, as the President’s repeated attempts to reform the supervision of these entities were thwarted by the legislative maneuvering of those who emphatically denied there were problems.

The White House released this list of attempts by President Bush to reform Freddie Mae and Freddie Mac since he took office in 2001.
Unfortunately, Congress did not act on the president’s warnings:

All this is bullshit. Bush was pushing for more & more subprime loans & holding down interest rates all the way until the bubble burst. Every politician talks out of both sides of their mouthes, but the facts are that Bush & the Repubs were full steam ahead on subprime until the shit hit the fan. They never ever took a vote or did a dam thing to to stop it. Stop crying & trying to shift the blame. Bush & Repubs held all branches of power while they destroyed 18 million jobs & crashed the economy.

You are an absolute piece of brainwashed shit.
Yes YOU are!

Fact - Bush destroyed 18 million jobs, exploded food stamps & government.

Fact - Obama has brought back 10.3 million jobs, shrank government & now shrinking food stamps.

More needs to be done, but the direction is good.
 
Who is getting the jobs? Old people!

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Your chart is bullshit. It is not showing percent of each age group employed. It is showing which group is getting larger & smaller. Repubtards can never be honest. Scumbags, everyone of them.


It must suck to be such an economic illiterate who is unable to find information on the interwebs.

The BLS reports labor force participation by age cohort. I've already posted it twice, but here you go again.

Civilian labor force participation rates by age sex race and ethnicity

The slack are the age 15 to 24 college students studying harder to get a job. Unlike your fake chart the age 25 to 54 are 77% employed with an 82% participation rate & pulling the workload as they should.

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You can't even read the chart that you posted. Look at the sustained lower level in the blue line.
The 25 - 54 group is aging heavily on the old side where they go from 80% employed to 60% employed. Due to the social security cuts & increased health of old people their percent of employment is stable but the shear volume dropping from 80% group to 60% group to 40% group for age 65 & over are pushing down the population participation rate.


What a load of malarky.
 
The labor participation rate peaked under President Clinton.

So all you RWnuts obsessing on the labor participation rate have to concede that the best president in that regard would be to elect another Bill Clinton.
 
The labor participation rate peaked under President Clinton.

So all you RWnuts obsessing on the labor participation rate have to concede that the best president in that regard would be to elect another Bill Clinton.

Or elect a republican house and senate who controlled Clintons spending for 7 of his 8 years.

Moron.

You fucking morons not admitting that there was a bipartisan reason for the real estate bubble are the fucking hacks.

You are all pieces of shit.

I am still waiting for you assholes to tell me how many of those jobs are fulltime and how many are in the private sector.

I am also still trying to figure out how the recipients of those on food stamps have not reduced, at all. Considering how great and better off the economy is.

Meanwhile, the debt is still climbing exponentially.

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Liberals are pathetic.
 
The labor participation rate peaked under President Clinton.

So all you RWnuts obsessing on the labor participation rate have to concede that the best president in that regard would be to elect another Bill Clinton.

Or elect a republican house and senate who controlled Clintons spending for 7 of his 8 years.

It peaked under Clinton. And then started falling. Congress didn't change.
 
Unemployment decreases and foodstamp recipients increase.

Explain liberals.

OK. Maybe you just don't understand who creates jobs, yet I read it all the time on here. The government does not create jobs. You ever read that before? Or has that changed now?

The government does mandate a minimum wage that they have tried to increase with no success. Did you know that? The government even issues reports on the state of employment within the country.

Did you know that the Republicans in Bush's administration said that if only the job creators (those running private industry making big money) would create lots of jobs IF they could just get their taxes cut. They got the cuts.

Why don't you ask them where are the good paying jobs that wouldn't allow people to qualify for food stamps?

Obama raised taxes and put in many regulations by executive fiat that cost businesses the money they could have given as raises.

Name five of those regulations, please.

Here are ten for you.

Ten Job-Destroying Regulations National Review Online

Nope. I need the ones that Obama has instituted by fiat and I then need the numbers of jobs killed.

That was ANOTHER link from 2011, by the way.

Just give me the names of the regulations. No bullshit article needed.

The name is MACT.

More than 34 gigawatts (GW) of electrical generating capacity are now set to retire because of the Environmental Protection Agency’s (EPA) Mercury and Air Toxics Rule (colloquially called Utility MACT)and the Cross State Air Pollution Rule (CSAPR)regulations. Most of these retirements will come from coal-fired power plants, shuttering over 10 percent of the U.S.’s coal-fired generating capacity.

An analysis for ACCCE by National Economic Research Associates (NERA) found that the proposed Utility MACT rule and other pending EPA regulations would destroy an average of 183,000 jobs every year from 2012- 2020 and increase electricity and other energy prices by $170 billion. The NERA analysis also found that the average American household would have $270 less to spend each year because of new EPA regulations. According to EPA’s own analysis, the Utility MACT regulation could cost more than $100 billion.

Here is a link for you.

Revised Boiler MACT Rules Now Final Substantial Cost Impacts to the Chemical Industry - Chemical Industry Update
 
The labor participation rate peaked under President Clinton.

So all you RWnuts obsessing on the labor participation rate have to concede that the best president in that regard would be to elect another Bill Clinton.

Or elect a republican house and senate who controlled Clintons spending for 7 of his 8 years.

It peaked under Clinton. And then started falling. Congress didn't change.

Congress changed in 2007 you miserable asshole.

Pelosi took over in 2007, and the unemployment rate was 4.6 percent.

You stupid illiterate dick.
 
Actually the U-6 rate is 11.8%


I didn't say U-6, I said real under and unemployment.
Which is the U-6 rate.


Incorrect. U-6 does not include the long term discouraged workers who have given up looking for work. They are no longer included in the labor force totals.
Yes it does include discouraged workers, and you know that.

From the BLS:

U-6 Total unemployed, plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force, plus total employed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force
NOTE: Persons marginally attached to the labor force are those who currently are neither working nor looking for work but indicate that they want and are available for a job and have looked for work sometime in the past 12 months. Discouraged workers, a subset of the marginally attached, have given a job-market related reason for not currently looking for work. Persons employed part time for economic reasons are those who want and are available for full-time work but have had to settle for a part-time schedule.
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That does not include long term discouraged workers who have given up. They are not part of the labor force.
Another wing-nut who pretends they can't read simple English so they can like with impunity. I clearly marked it in RED so even YOU can't say that you missed it! The O-6 rate INCLUDES discouraged workers!!!!!!
Stop lying! :eusa_liar:
 
I still have not seen a liberal attempt to explain why the food stamp recipient list has not reduced as the unemployment number has reduced.

Is there a statistic that shows the fulltime jobs?

Can someone please post it. I am too lazy to google it. Let us really break down that number.

Unless liberals are stating that stats don't often conceal what is vital. If not, then let us revisit the 4.6 number in 2006 when the republicans last had majority power. That is right, all of a sudden that number does not count.

Liberals still think the president is an elected king. I mean, I could see why they think that, but that is not the case.

Let us get back the number and specifics involved.
 
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It was 4.6 the last time republicans had majority power, which they from 1994 to 2006. Not that rightwinger knew or cared.

How many full time jobs? How many in the private sector?

Yes, statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, what they conceal is vital.

Rightwinger is just a fucking ignorant hack

Really? So Congress is responsible, NOT the Prez? Weird, and how many years did the Dems control the Senate in those years, or were able to block the GOP bills without 60 votes?


8 years of Dubya/GOP 'job creator' policies and the US lost over 1,000,000 PRIVATE sector jobs

NET of over 6.6 MILLION PRIVATE sector jobs under Obama

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data


Jul 14 2014

Here's What Obama's 'Part-Time America' Really Looks Like

The president's critics love this talking point. But since 2010, full-time jobs are up 7.6 million, and part-time jobs have declined by more than 900,000.

Here s What Obama s Part-Time America Really Looks Like - The Atlantic


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Briefing Room The White House
Speaker Pelosi failed to mention was that President Bush warned the Democratic Congress 17 times in 2008 alone about the systemic consequences of financial turmoil at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and also put forward thoughtful plans to reduce the risk that either Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac would encounter such difficulties.

Who Caused the Economic Crisis

There’s plenty of blame to go around, and it doesn’t fasten only on one party or even mainly on what Washington did or didn’t do. As The Economist magazine noted recently, the problem is one of "layered irresponsibility … with hard-working homeowners and billionaire villains each playing a role." Here’s a partial list of those alleged to be at fault:
  • The Federal Reserve, which slashed interest rates after the dot-com bubble burst, making credit cheap.
  • Home buyers, who took advantage of easy credit to bid up the prices of homes excessively.
  • Congress, which continues to support a mortgage tax deduction that gives consumers a tax incentive to buy more expensive houses.
  • Real estate agents, most of whom work for the sellers rather than the buyers and who earned higher commissions from selling more expensive homes.
  • The Clinton administration, which pushed for less stringent credit and downpayment requirements for working- and middle-class families.
  • Mortgage brokers, who offered less-credit-worthy home buyers subprime, adjustable rate loans with low initial payments, but exploding interest rates.
  • Former Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan, who in 2004, near the peak of the housing bubble, encouraged Americans to take out adjustable rate mortgages.
  • Wall Street firms, who paid too little attention to the quality of the risky loans that they bundled into Mortgage Backed Securities (MBS), and issued bonds using those securities as collateral.
  • The Bush administration, which failed to provide needed government oversight of the increasingly dicey mortgage-backed securities market.
  • An obscure accounting rule called mark-to-market, which can have the paradoxical result of making assets be worth less on paper than they are in reality during times of panic.
  • Collective delusion, or a belief on the part of all parties that home prices would keep rising forever, no matter how high or how fast they had already gone up.
Again we see how the Right is too stupid to even understand their OWN cut and paste!!!

You claim Bush warned 17 times about the coming of HIS housing crash, yet by your own post he only warned about Fannie and Freddie which had nothing to do with the Bush housing crash!!!!! Your own link does NOT list Fannie and Freddie as one of the causes of the Bush housing crash!!!!!
 
It was 4.6 the last time republicans had majority power, which they from 1994 to 2006. Not that rightwinger knew or cared.

How many full time jobs? How many in the private sector?

Yes, statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, what they conceal is vital.

Rightwinger is just a fucking ignorant hack
Republicans were given an unemployment rate of 4% when they took power. We allowed them to slash taxes and deregulate

Unemployment doubled under republican guidance
Wrong again. Republicans lost power in 2007 and the unemployment rate sky rocketed after Pelosi and her criminals took over power. Especially when the socialists had a super majority and then republicans took over the House.

The democrats still have majority power.

You going to let us know how many of these jobs are fulltime? Does not make a difference?

In recovering economy foodstamp recipients decrease.

Oh never mind. You are stupid.

Weird, you forgetting Dubyas 'home ownership society' ponzi scheme failing about then?

Q When did the Bush Mortgage Bubble start?

A The general timeframe is it started late 2004.

From Bush’s President’s Working Group on Financial Markets October 2008

“The Presidents Working Group’s March policy statement acknowledged that turmoil in financial markets clearly was triggered by a dramatic weakening of underwriting standards for U.S. subprime mortgages, beginning in late 2004 and extending into 2007.”

FACTS on Dubya s great recession US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum
 

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