Marxist
Senior Member
I'd rather not exploit others.For those of you thinking CEO's earn too much, just remember, if you ever became the CEO of anything, you'll be the very thing you hate. Rich.
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I'd rather not exploit others.For those of you thinking CEO's earn too much, just remember, if you ever became the CEO of anything, you'll be the very thing you hate. Rich.
No, literally, by definition, only a minority can be the capitalists, owning stocks, pensions? Oh come on, you know what I'm referring to, don't embarrass yourself. You show me one viable way capitalism can end poverty, one way capitalism can survive within the next 200 years.Violent revolution, yes. The majority cannot become capitalists, no matter how hard they work, it's impossible.There's only one way to achieve your "worker's paradise" dream ... at the end of a gun. Like most "capitalists" I started out as an hourly wage earner but never whined about being "exploited." Like many I saved, looked for opportunities and when a good one came I borrowed what I could and jumped in with both feet. Making it work meant 80 hr work weeks but it created personal ownership of production and personal wealth ... something I wouldn't expect a socialist to understand or approve of.
Ah ... the eternal yet baseless whiny socialist lament. The Federal Reserve Survey of Consumer Finance found that roughly half of all Americans owned stocks either directly or indirectly (pension funds, 401k, IRAs, etc.) in 2012.
Bullshit. Investing in America by investing in the machine (capitalism) is exactly how we create jobs. Whining about the "unfairness" of it all is the socialist's way of demanding we stop the train so he can get a better grip. Nobody here owes you anything, Princess. Grow up.
So you admit capitalism relies on systemic poverty, cannot sustain itself, and creates a massive wealth gap without regulation?...
A capitalist economy to benefit the capitalists.No, literally, by definition, only a minority can be the capitalists, owning stocks, pensions? Oh come on, you know what I'm referring to, don't embarrass yourself. You show me one viable way capitalism can end poverty, one way capitalism can survive within the next 200 years.Violent revolution, yes. The majority cannot become capitalists, no matter how hard they work, it's impossible.
Ah ... the eternal yet baseless whiny socialist lament. The Federal Reserve Survey of Consumer Finance found that roughly half of all Americans owned stocks either directly or indirectly (pension funds, 401k, IRAs, etc.) in 2012.
Bullshit. Investing in America by investing in the machine (capitalism) is exactly how we create jobs. Whining about the "unfairness" of it all is the socialist's way of demanding we stop the train so he can get a better grip. Nobody here owes you anything, Princess. Grow up.
So you admit capitalism relies on systemic poverty, cannot sustain itself, and creates a massive wealth gap without regulation?...
Nope but taking the responsibility to help grow America's economy is clearly Kryptonite to every whiny socialist.
Violent revolution, yes. The majority cannot become capitalists, no matter how hard they work, it's impossible.Which ones are you referring to? A "marxist" economy wouldn't exist if communism was achieved, unless you count efficient use of surplus, guaranteed work, collective ownership of production. Workers paradise isn't a fools dream, it's something to strive for. Labor is exploited, constantly, although you don't follow the labor theory of value, so I wouldn't expect a capitalist to understand. They were exploiting your capital? Oh please. If a sweatshop worker produces $50 in products for the capitalist in an hour, leaving out where the base materials came from, and all of the labor used, the exploitation is real.And at the end of the day that is why Marxist economies are doomed to fail. The "Worker's Paradise" is a fool's dream in which paying one's employees what the market dictates is "exploiting people's labor."
Frankly, too many of those who once worked for me were exploiting my capital.
There's only one way to achieve your "worker's paradise" dream ... at the end of a gun. Like most "capitalists" I started out as an hourly wage earner but never whined about being "exploited." Like many I saved, looked for opportunities and when a good one came I borrowed what I could and jumped in with both feet. Making it work meant 80 hr work weeks but it created personal ownership of production and personal wealth ... something I wouldn't expect a socialist to understand or approve of.
Ah ... the eternal yet baseless whiny socialist lament. The Federal Reserve Survey of Consumer Finance found that roughly half of all Americans owned stocks either directly or indirectly (pension funds, 401k, IRAs, etc.) in 2012.
Yep, and that's half the story. How many of this half of all Americans have little more than what they invested and how many have lost some of their principle?
Q. How do you spell insider trading?
A. W A L L - S T R E E T
So again what is better for the economy. 500 people making good money or one person making gross amounts of money?
Again, unless you are management or a shareholder it's none of your biz.
Really? So a slow economy is good for the country?
Paying people for their labor does not slow the economy.
What is good for the country is a noble cause.
What is best for an individual company is for ownership and management to determine and still none of your biz.
Get your mind off my wallet and your hand out of my pocket.
No but lots of inequality does slow the economy. So again what is better for the economy? 500 people making good money or one person making gross amounts of money?
Lotsa people making what they are worth and most already are.
A capitalist economy to benefit the capitalists.No, literally, by definition, only a minority can be the capitalists, owning stocks, pensions? Oh come on, you know what I'm referring to, don't embarrass yourself. You show me one viable way capitalism can end poverty, one way capitalism can survive within the next 200 years.Ah ... the eternal yet baseless whiny socialist lament. The Federal Reserve Survey of Consumer Finance found that roughly half of all Americans owned stocks either directly or indirectly (pension funds, 401k, IRAs, etc.) in 2012.
Bullshit. Investing in America by investing in the machine (capitalism) is exactly how we create jobs. Whining about the "unfairness" of it all is the socialist's way of demanding we stop the train so he can get a better grip. Nobody here owes you anything, Princess. Grow up.
So you admit capitalism relies on systemic poverty, cannot sustain itself, and creates a massive wealth gap without regulation?...
Nope but taking the responsibility to help grow America's economy is clearly Kryptonite to every whiny socialist.
Yeah, you love to tell others who oppose a horrible system they're whining, the damn anti-slavery folks need to stop whining. Fucking idiot.Violent revolution, yes. The majority cannot become capitalists, no matter how hard they work, it's impossible.Which ones are you referring to? A "marxist" economy wouldn't exist if communism was achieved, unless you count efficient use of surplus, guaranteed work, collective ownership of production. Workers paradise isn't a fools dream, it's something to strive for. Labor is exploited, constantly, although you don't follow the labor theory of value, so I wouldn't expect a capitalist to understand. They were exploiting your capital? Oh please. If a sweatshop worker produces $50 in products for the capitalist in an hour, leaving out where the base materials came from, and all of the labor used, the exploitation is real.
There's only one way to achieve your "worker's paradise" dream ... at the end of a gun. Like most "capitalists" I started out as an hourly wage earner but never whined about being "exploited." Like many I saved, looked for opportunities and when a good one came I borrowed what I could and jumped in with both feet. Making it work meant 80 hr work weeks but it created personal ownership of production and personal wealth ... something I wouldn't expect a socialist to understand or approve of.
Ah ... the eternal yet baseless whiny socialist lament. The Federal Reserve Survey of Consumer Finance found that roughly half of all Americans owned stocks either directly or indirectly (pension funds, 401k, IRAs, etc.) in 2012.
Yep, and that's half the story. How many of this half of all Americans have little more than what they invested and how many have lost some of their principle?
Q. How do you spell insider trading?
A. W A L L - S T R E E T
Another whiny sniveling socialist waddles in. Do you people ever do anything but whine?
I couldn't bring myself to do that, knowing that millions starve to death due to capitalism.A capitalist economy to benefit the capitalists.No, literally, by definition, only a minority can be the capitalists, owning stocks, pensions? Oh come on, you know what I'm referring to, don't embarrass yourself. You show me one viable way capitalism can end poverty, one way capitalism can survive within the next 200 years.
Bullshit. Investing in America by investing in the machine (capitalism) is exactly how we create jobs. Whining about the "unfairness" of it all is the socialist's way of demanding we stop the train so he can get a better grip. Nobody here owes you anything, Princess. Grow up.
So you admit capitalism relies on systemic poverty, cannot sustain itself, and creates a massive wealth gap without regulation?...
Nope but taking the responsibility to help grow America's economy is clearly Kryptonite to every whiny socialist.
And when you grow the cojones to help pull the train you too can benefit from being a capitalist. Until then you'll just be a whiny sniveling crybaby.
Again, unless you are management or a shareholder it's none of your biz.
Really? So a slow economy is good for the country?
Paying people for their labor does not slow the economy.
What is good for the country is a noble cause.
What is best for an individual company is for ownership and management to determine and still none of your biz.
Get your mind off my wallet and your hand out of my pocket.
No but lots of inequality does slow the economy. So again what is better for the economy? 500 people making good money or one person making gross amounts of money?
Lotsa people making what they are worth and most already are.
Still dodging the question? How sad. If you truly believe lots of inequality doesn't slow the economy than answer the question.
I don't take whiny orders from idiotic supporters of a exploitative systemReally? So a slow economy is good for the country?
Paying people for their labor does not slow the economy.
What is good for the country is a noble cause.
What is best for an individual company is for ownership and management to determine and still none of your biz.
Get your mind off my wallet and your hand out of my pocket.
No but lots of inequality does slow the economy. So again what is better for the economy? 500 people making good money or one person making gross amounts of money?
Lotsa people making what they are worth and most already are.
Still dodging the question? How sad. If you truly believe lots of inequality doesn't slow the economy than answer the question.
I answered your question, Princess (So again what is better for the economy? 500 people making good money or one person making gross amounts of money?) and I don't take marching orders from whiny socialists.
Yeah, you love to tell others who oppose a horrible system they're whining, the damn anti-slavery folks need to stop whining. Fucking idiot.Violent revolution, yes. The majority cannot become capitalists, no matter how hard they work, it's impossible.There's only one way to achieve your "worker's paradise" dream ... at the end of a gun. Like most "capitalists" I started out as an hourly wage earner but never whined about being "exploited." Like many I saved, looked for opportunities and when a good one came I borrowed what I could and jumped in with both feet. Making it work meant 80 hr work weeks but it created personal ownership of production and personal wealth ... something I wouldn't expect a socialist to understand or approve of.
Ah ... the eternal yet baseless whiny socialist lament. The Federal Reserve Survey of Consumer Finance found that roughly half of all Americans owned stocks either directly or indirectly (pension funds, 401k, IRAs, etc.) in 2012.
Yep, and that's half the story. How many of this half of all Americans have little more than what they invested and how many have lost some of their principle?
Q. How do you spell insider trading?
A. W A L L - S T R E E T
Another whiny sniveling socialist waddles in. Do you people ever do anything but whine?
I don't take whiny orders from idiotic supporters of a exploitative systemPaying people for their labor does not slow the economy.
What is good for the country is a noble cause.
What is best for an individual company is for ownership and management to determine and still none of your biz.
Get your mind off my wallet and your hand out of my pocket.
No but lots of inequality does slow the economy. So again what is better for the economy? 500 people making good money or one person making gross amounts of money?
Lotsa people making what they are worth and most already are.
Still dodging the question? How sad. If you truly believe lots of inequality doesn't slow the economy than answer the question.
I answered your question, Princess (So again what is better for the economy? 500 people making good money or one person making gross amounts of money?) and I don't take marching orders from whiny socialists.
I couldn't bring myself to do that, knowing that millions starve to death due to capitalism.A capitalist economy to benefit the capitalists.Bullshit. Investing in America by investing in the machine (capitalism) is exactly how we create jobs. Whining about the "unfairness" of it all is the socialist's way of demanding we stop the train so he can get a better grip. Nobody here owes you anything, Princess. Grow up.
So you admit capitalism relies on systemic poverty, cannot sustain itself, and creates a massive wealth gap without regulation?...
Nope but taking the responsibility to help grow America's economy is clearly Kryptonite to every whiny socialist.
And when you grow the cojones to help pull the train you too can benefit from being a capitalist. Until then you'll just be a whiny sniveling crybaby.
Tell that to those in poverty, the rising cost of living worldwide when wages arent increasing, the working classes in china, india, the third world.Yeah, you love to tell others who oppose a horrible system they're whining, the damn anti-slavery folks need to stop whining. Fucking idiot.Violent revolution, yes. The majority cannot become capitalists, no matter how hard they work, it's impossible.
Ah ... the eternal yet baseless whiny socialist lament. The Federal Reserve Survey of Consumer Finance found that roughly half of all Americans owned stocks either directly or indirectly (pension funds, 401k, IRAs, etc.) in 2012.
Yep, and that's half the story. How many of this half of all Americans have little more than what they invested and how many have lost some of their principle?
Q. How do you spell insider trading?
A. W A L L - S T R E E T
Another whiny sniveling socialist waddles in. Do you people ever do anything but whine?
Yanno, despite our warts America seems to work just fine on this "horrible system" and if you had the cojones to stand for your "beliefs" you'd move to a country more to your liking. Greece is beautiful this time of year.
If a Federal law was passed that said total compensation cannot be xx times greater than the average employee's compensation it would affect all equally.HE IS NOT getting gross amounts of money!
He is getting RSUs... that he can't sell until things happen... so where is the "gross amount of money"???
284 million is a pretty gross amount in my book.
If you are not a stock holder its none of your business, sorry to burst your bubble.
So again what is better for the economy. 500 people making good money or one person making gross amounts of money?
Feel free to move to China, go live your communist dream working for the collective. What you bunch of dumb asses don't understand is that if you hire some dip shit retard CEO who is willing to work for peanuts the company is more likely to fail and then they will all be out of work. Secondly, any savings in CEO salary will go to stock holders not to the workers, they own the company its their property. The guy who mows your lawn isn't entitled to a share of the profits when you sell your house now is he. Well there you go.
Tell that to those in poverty, the rising cost of living worldwide when wages arent increasing, the working classes in china, india, the third world.Yeah, you love to tell others who oppose a horrible system they're whining, the damn anti-slavery folks need to stop whining. Fucking idiot.Ah ... the eternal yet baseless whiny socialist lament. The Federal Reserve Survey of Consumer Finance found that roughly half of all Americans owned stocks either directly or indirectly (pension funds, 401k, IRAs, etc.) in 2012.
Yep, and that's half the story. How many of this half of all Americans have little more than what they invested and how many have lost some of their principle?
Q. How do you spell insider trading?
A. W A L L - S T R E E T
Another whiny sniveling socialist waddles in. Do you people ever do anything but whine?
Yanno, despite our warts America seems to work just fine on this "horrible system" and if you had the cojones to stand for your "beliefs" you'd move to a country more to your liking. Greece is beautiful this time of year.
Really? So a slow economy is good for the country?
Paying people for their labor does not slow the economy.
What is good for the country is a noble cause.
What is best for an individual company is for ownership and management to determine and still none of your biz.
Get your mind off my wallet and your hand out of my pocket.
No but lots of inequality does slow the economy. So again what is better for the economy? 500 people making good money or one person making gross amounts of money?
Lotsa people making what they are worth and most already are.
Still dodging the question? How sad. If you truly believe lots of inequality doesn't slow the economy than answer the question.
I answered your question, Princess (So again what is better for the economy? 500 people making good money or one person making gross amounts of money?) and I don't take marching orders from whiny socialists.
You should know what my solution is.Tell that to those in poverty, the rising cost of living worldwide when wages arent increasing, the working classes in china, india, the third world.Yeah, you love to tell others who oppose a horrible system they're whining, the damn anti-slavery folks need to stop whining. Fucking idiot.Yep, and that's half the story. How many of this half of all Americans have little more than what they invested and how many have lost some of their principle?
Q. How do you spell insider trading?
A. W A L L - S T R E E T
Another whiny sniveling socialist waddles in. Do you people ever do anything but whine?
Yanno, despite our warts America seems to work just fine on this "horrible system" and if you had the cojones to stand for your "beliefs" you'd move to a country more to your liking. Greece is beautiful this time of year.
Are you just going to whine and complain or propose a solution?
Paying people for their labor does not slow the economy.
What is good for the country is a noble cause.
What is best for an individual company is for ownership and management to determine and still none of your biz.
Get your mind off my wallet and your hand out of my pocket.
No but lots of inequality does slow the economy. So again what is better for the economy? 500 people making good money or one person making gross amounts of money?
Lotsa people making what they are worth and most already are.
Still dodging the question? How sad. If you truly believe lots of inequality doesn't slow the economy than answer the question.
I answered your question, Princess (So again what is better for the economy? 500 people making good money or one person making gross amounts of money?) and I don't take marching orders from whiny socialists.
Actually I'm quite fiscally conservative. I want a strong economy, it is good for everyone. Have you noticed the economy has been slow as this inequality grows? I guess since you won't answer the question you don't even believe the crap you are saying.
You should know what my solution is.Tell that to those in poverty, the rising cost of living worldwide when wages arent increasing, the working classes in china, india, the third world.Yeah, you love to tell others who oppose a horrible system they're whining, the damn anti-slavery folks need to stop whining. Fucking idiot.Another whiny sniveling socialist waddles in. Do you people ever do anything but whine?
Yanno, despite our warts America seems to work just fine on this "horrible system" and if you had the cojones to stand for your "beliefs" you'd move to a country more to your liking. Greece is beautiful this time of year.
Are you just going to whine and complain or propose a solution?