Another ObamaSCARE "horror story" debunked!

[rdean]

Another Obamacare horror story debunked

Her current plan, from Anthem Blue Cross, is a catastrophic coverage plan for which she pays $293 a month as an individual policyholder. It requires her to pay a deductible of $5,000 a year and limits her out-of-pocket costs to $8,500 a year. Her plan also limits her to two doctor visits a year, for which she shoulders a copay of $40 each. After that, she pays the whole cost of subsequent visits.

If she wanted to pay less, Cavallaro could opt for lesser coverage in a "bronze" plan. She could buy one from the California exchange for as little as $194 a month. From Anthem, it's $256, or $444 a year less than she's paying now. That buys her a $5,000 deductible (the same as she's paying today) but the out-of-pocket limit is lower, $6,350. Office visits would be $60 for primary care and $70 for specialties, but again with no limit on the number of visits. Factor in the premium savings, and it's hard to deny that she's still ahead.

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Why does the right wing keep lying? Anyone?

 

[TRFjr]

Another Obamacare horror story debunked

Her current plan, from Anthem Blue Cross, is a catastrophic coverage plan for which she pays $293 a month as an individual policyholder. It requires her to pay a deductible of $5,000 a year and limits her out-of-pocket costs to $8,500 a year. Her plan also limits her to two doctor visits a year, for which she shoulders a copay of $40 each. After that, she pays the whole cost of subsequent visits.

If she wanted to pay less, Cavallaro could opt for lesser coverage in a "bronze" plan. She could buy one from the California exchange for as little as $194 a month. From Anthem, it's $256, or $444 a year less than she's paying now. That buys her a $5,000 deductible (the same as she's paying today) but the out-of-pocket limit is lower, $6,350. Office visits would be $60 for primary care and $70 for specialties, but again with no limit on the number of visits. Factor in the premium savings, and it's hard to deny that she's still ahead.

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Why does the right wing keep lying? Anyone?

this is pathetic the peace of shit media will pull out all the recourses to catch an ordinally citizen in a mistruth but for 5 years they wont even lift a finger to investigate any of Obama claims or actions

all this is about is intimidating and bullying citizens from coming forward with any criticism of Obama care because if they do they will have the Obama water carrying media investigating them dig through their claims in attempt to catch any little mistruth no mater how small it is so to send a message to others you better shut up

they should be ashamed of themselves and so should you for posting it
I know your desperate too divert attrition away from your failed lord and savior Obama but it makes you nothing but a bully

 

[MeBelle]

Her current plan, from Anthem Blue Cross, is a catastrophic coverage plan for which she pays $293 a month as an individual policyholder. It requires her to pay a deductible of $5,000 a year and limits her out-of-pocket costs to $8,500 a year. Her plan also limits her to two doctor visits a year, for which she shoulders a copay of $40 each. After that, she pays the whole cost of subsequent visits.

If she wanted to pay less, Cavallaro could opt for lesser coverage in a "bronze" plan. She could buy one from the California exchange for as little as $194 a month. From Anthem, it's $256, or $444 a year less than she's paying now. That buys her a $5,000 deductible (the same as she's paying today) but the out-of-pocket limit is lower, $6,350. Office visits would be $60 for primary care and $70 for specialties, but again with no limit on the number of visits. Factor in the premium savings, and it's hard to deny that she's still ahead.

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Why does the right wing keep lying? Anyone?

As usual you miss the point.

She was HAPPY WITH WHAT SHE HAD!

She didn't qualify for any subsidies.

Hack of an article...didn't even bother to do the research his own paper puts out.

Cavallaro received her cancellation notice from Anthem Blue Cross this month. The company said a comparable Bronze plan would cost her 65% more, or $484 a month. She doubts she'll qualify for much in premium subsidies, if any. Regardless, she resents losing the ability to pick and choose the benefits she wants to pay for.

Some health insurance gets pricier as Obamacare rolls out - Page 2 - latimes.com

 

[bigrebnc1775]

her current plan, from anthem blue cross, is a catastrophic coverage plan for which she pays $293 a month as an individual policyholder. It requires her to pay a deductible of $5,000 a year and limits her out-of-pocket costs to $8,500 a year. Her plan also limits her to two doctor visits a year, for which she shoulders a copay of $40 each. After that, she pays the whole cost of subsequent visits.

If she wanted to pay less, cavallaro could opt for lesser coverage in a "bronze" plan. She could buy one from the california exchange for as little as $194 a month. From anthem, it's $256, or $444 a year less than she's paying now. That buys her a $5,000 deductible (the same as she's paying today) but the out-of-pocket limit is lower, $6,350. Office visits would be $60 for primary care and $70 for specialties, but again with no limit on the number of visits. Factor in the premium savings, and it's hard to deny that she's still ahead.

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why does the right wing keep lying? Anyone?

as usual you miss the point.

she was happy with what she had!

She didn't qualify for any subsidies.

Hack of an article...didn't even bother to do the research his own paper puts out.

cavallaro received her cancellation notice from anthem blue cross this month. The company said a comparable bronze plan would cost her 65% more, or $484 a month. She doubts she'll qualify for much in premium subsidies, if any. Regardless, she resents losing the ability to pick and choose the benefits she wants to pay for.

some health insurance gets pricier as obamacare rolls out - page 2 - latimes.com

rderp is a dumbass he'll never get it.

 

[Rozman]

The stories are coming out about people getting dumped and will end up paying more...
But the Obama lovers will still defend this mess....

What can you do...they will cover for this guy no matter what.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The stories are coming out about people getting dumped and will end up paying more...
But the Obama lovers will still defend this mess....

What can you do...they will cover for this guy no matter what.

I know of one local electric company that has done this to their employees

 

[Rozman]

And if Obama lied and committed fraud which is pretty much what he did and that's being kind.
The lefties will defend it as he did it for the greater good because the left feels they know what's best for
everyone.

 

[Rozman]

I'm just waiting for the claim from the left that this is all Bush's fault.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Another Obamacare horror story debunked

Her current plan, from Anthem Blue Cross, is a catastrophic coverage plan for which she pays $293 a month as an individual policyholder. It requires her to pay a deductible of $5,000 a year and limits her out-of-pocket costs to $8,500 a year. Her plan also limits her to two doctor visits a year, for which she shoulders a copay of $40 each. After that, she pays the whole cost of subsequent visits.

If she wanted to pay less, Cavallaro could opt for lesser coverage in a "bronze" plan. She could buy one from the California exchange for as little as $194 a month. From Anthem, it's $256, or $444 a year less than she's paying now. That buys her a $5,000 deductible (the same as she's paying today) but the out-of-pocket limit is lower, $6,350. Office visits would be $60 for primary care and $70 for specialties, but again with no limit on the number of visits. Factor in the premium savings, and it's hard to deny that she's still ahead.

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Why does the right wing keep lying? Anyone?

I have a question for you rdean, if Obamacare is so good why do you resort to lies to defend it?

First point, because of her age, she cannot buy a Bronze Plan, so that means the story lied when it pointed out she coupld opt for it.

Second, that $40 a month for the silver plan is $480 a year out of her pocket. On top of that, she has a higher copay for doctor visits, which is more money out of her pocket.

Then we have the interesting fact that she might not get to keep her to keep her doctor under the new plan, despite Obama's promise to the contrary. Given the fact that Covered California doesn't tell you what doctors are available on what plans, she can't even figure that out.

Then we have the fact that the numbers above are based on the assumption that she actually qualifies for subsidies. That is a pretty wild assumption since she states her income varies based on how much work she gets, and she will have to pay back the subsidies if her income actually goes up.

Not to worry though, I am "the right," so I must be the one lying.

 

[daveman]

Another Obamacare horror story debunked

Her current plan, from Anthem Blue Cross, is a catastrophic coverage plan for which she pays $293 a month as an individual policyholder. It requires her to pay a deductible of $5,000 a year and limits her out-of-pocket costs to $8,500 a year. Her plan also limits her to two doctor visits a year, for which she shoulders a copay of $40 each. After that, she pays the whole cost of subsequent visits.

If she wanted to pay less, Cavallaro could opt for lesser coverage in a "bronze" plan. She could buy one from the California exchange for as little as $194 a month. From Anthem, it's $256, or $444 a year less than she's paying now. That buys her a $5,000 deductible (the same as she's paying today) but the out-of-pocket limit is lower, $6,350. Office visits would be $60 for primary care and $70 for specialties, but again with no limit on the number of visits. Factor in the premium savings, and it's hard to deny that she's still ahead.

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Why does the right wing keep lying? Anyone?

Was she one of the six people who signed up the first day?

 

[rdean]

I'm just waiting for the claim from the left that this is all Bush's fault.

You know that many Republicans living in New Orleans are mad at Obama for not providing aid sooner after Katrina? You know that, right?

 

[rdean]

Her current plan, from Anthem Blue Cross, is a catastrophic coverage plan for which she pays $293 a month as an individual policyholder. It requires her to pay a deductible of $5,000 a year and limits her out-of-pocket costs to $8,500 a year. Her plan also limits her to two doctor visits a year, for which she shoulders a copay of $40 each. After that, she pays the whole cost of subsequent visits.

If she wanted to pay less, Cavallaro could opt for lesser coverage in a "bronze" plan. She could buy one from the California exchange for as little as $194 a month. From Anthem, it's $256, or $444 a year less than she's paying now. That buys her a $5,000 deductible (the same as she's paying today) but the out-of-pocket limit is lower, $6,350. Office visits would be $60 for primary care and $70 for specialties, but again with no limit on the number of visits. Factor in the premium savings, and it's hard to deny that she's still ahead.

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Why does the right wing keep lying? Anyone?

As usual you miss the point.

She was HAPPY WITH WHAT SHE HAD!

She didn't qualify for any subsidies.

Hack of an article...didn't even bother to do the research his own paper puts out.

Cavallaro received her cancellation notice from Anthem Blue Cross this month. The company said a comparable Bronze plan would cost her 65% more, or $484 a month. She doubts she'll qualify for much in premium subsidies, if any. Regardless, she resents losing the ability to pick and choose the benefits she wants to pay for.

Some health insurance gets pricier as Obamacare rolls out - Page 2 - latimes.com

From your article:

Cavallaro received her cancellation notice from Anthem Blue Cross this month.

and

Rates would be going up regardless of changes from the healthcare expansion. The average individual premium will climb 9% next year because of rising healthcare costs and increases in medical provider reimbursement, according to Milliman's estimates.

and

Javier Lopez, 38 and a self-employed aerospace engineer in Huntington Beach, pays about $750 a month for an Anthem Blue Cross plan for his family of four. His premiums may rise nearly 20% next year for a new policy because his current plan is being phased out.

Lopez says he's willing to absorb that one-year jump if it means the government can rein in future rate hikes.

"I'm hoping with this reform," Lopez said, "we won't see big increases year after year."

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The truth is the insurance companies are canceling the plans. The reason is because the shitty plans they were selling weren't competitive. Now that the market has opened up with the insurance exchanges..
Medical bills have been the number one cause of bankruptcy for at least a decade. Now that someone has done something about it, Republicans are crying. They want Americans to go bankrupt. They want to tear down the country. Because they are fucking confederates who are still mad they had to give up their slaves.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I'm just waiting for the claim from the left that this is all Bush's fault.

You know that many Republicans living in New Orleans are mad at Obama for not providing aid sooner after Katrina? You know that, right?

Why is Obama blaming Republicans for Obamacare? Is it because he is a lying sack of shit?

 

[MeBelle]

Her current plan, from Anthem Blue Cross, is a catastrophic coverage plan for which she pays $293 a month as an individual policyholder. It requires her to pay a deductible of $5,000 a year and limits her out-of-pocket costs to $8,500 a year. Her plan also limits her to two doctor visits a year, for which she shoulders a copay of $40 each. After that, she pays the whole cost of subsequent visits.

If she wanted to pay less, Cavallaro could opt for lesser coverage in a "bronze" plan. She could buy one from the California exchange for as little as $194 a month. From Anthem, it's $256, or $444 a year less than she's paying now. That buys her a $5,000 deductible (the same as she's paying today) but the out-of-pocket limit is lower, $6,350. Office visits would be $60 for primary care and $70 for specialties, but again with no limit on the number of visits. Factor in the premium savings, and it's hard to deny that she's still ahead.

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Why does the right wing keep lying? Anyone?

As usual you miss the point.

She was HAPPY WITH WHAT SHE HAD!

She didn't qualify for any subsidies.

Hack of an article...didn't even bother to do the research his own paper puts out.

Cavallaro received her cancellation notice from Anthem Blue Cross this month. The company said a comparable Bronze plan would cost her 65% more, or $484 a month. She doubts she'll qualify for much in premium subsidies, if any. Regardless, she resents losing the ability to pick and choose the benefits she wants to pay for.

Some health insurance gets pricier as Obamacare rolls out - Page 2 - latimes.com

From your article:
Cavallaro received her cancellation notice from Anthem Blue Cross this month.
and
Rates would be going up regardless of changes from the healthcare expansion. The average individual premium will climb 9% next year because of rising healthcare costs and increases in medical provider reimbursement, according to Milliman's estimates.
and

Javier Lopez, 38 and a self-employed aerospace engineer in Huntington Beach, pays about $750 a month for an Anthem Blue Cross plan for his family of four. His premiums may rise nearly 20% next year for a new policy because his current plan is being phased out.

Lopez says he's willing to absorb that one-year jump if it means the government can rein in future rate hikes.
"I'm hoping with this reform," Lopez said, "we won't see big increases year after year."


The truth is the insurance companies are canceling the plans..

Yes, because ACA made them illegal.

ACA took away the right from all citizens to purchase or keep a plan they wanted.

The main point still flew over your head.

The reason is because the shitty plans they were selling weren't competitive. Now that the market has opened up with the insurance exchanges..
Medical bills have been the number one cause of bankruptcy for at least a decade. Now that someone has done something about it, Republicans are crying. They want Americans to go bankrupt. They want to tear down the country. Because they are fucking confederates who are still mad they had to give up their slaves.

^^^^^total bullshit^^^^​

Well, except for the bankrupt part.
My neighbors will be going bankrupt in two years just paying premiums and meeting the deductibles.
They are both unionized employees.
ACA made their health care plan illegal.
They also vote Democrat.

 

[Harry Dresden]

The truth is the insurance companies are canceling the plans. The reason is because the shitty plans they were selling weren't competitive. Now that the market has opened up with the insurance exchanges..
Medical bills have been the number one cause of bankruptcy for at least a decade. Now that someone has done something about it, Republicans are crying. They want Americans to go bankrupt. They want to tear down the country. Because they are fucking confederates who are still mad they had to give up their slaves.

thats not what they are saying on the news out here in liberal California.....just sayin....

 

[Zoom-boing]

Que the rderp to leave the thread in 5, 4, 3, . . . .

 

[Harry Dresden]

Que the rderp to leave the thread in 5, 4, 3, . . . .

or he will do the Dean Waltz.....

 

[rdean]

Cities in red states push federal health plan - San Antonio Express-News

Texas has the highest rate of uninsured residents in the nation — about 25 percent — and a Republican governor who has been especially hostile to the overhaul dubbed "Obamacare" by critics. In addition to withholding state funds, Gov. Rick Perry has directed the program's trained navigators, who help recipients with the online enrollment, to receive more instruction than required under federal law.

The technical problems are just one sign of the new health system's flaws, Perry's spokeswoman, Lucy Nashed, said in an emailed statement. "Americans are watching Obamacare fall apart with each week that passes."

In Florida, where Republican Gov. Rick Scott has opposed the initiative, the state ordered county health departments to ban navigators from contacting people on their property. But some local officials there are helping with the outreach to the state's 3.5 million uninsured residents.

"We have an obligation to help them do that so they can make up their own minds," said Mayor Kristin Jacobs in Broward County.

The city of Philadelphia is training its home visitation workers and library staff to answer questions about insurance eligibility. In Mississippi, the Health Department is providing educational information.

Nowhere, though, is the local coordination greater than in Houston — a model that Enroll America is hoping to promote elsewhere.

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