Another school shooting....time to arm the teachers?

[Dr Grump]

Untrue. I just have to prove that I need a gun...not too hard to do if I really wanted one....

That MIGHT get you a single shot .22 - but level 3 (or C) is where the real guns start. Sheep Shaggers apparently can't be trusted with weapons.

A gun is a gun. Why would I need anything more than a .22? Govt out to get me?

 

[beagle9]

At the core of any neocon, right-wing loon is their own ego. It's all about "me, me, me" to them. You would never meet a more self-centred, self-righteous, egotistical, selfish group of people anywhere on the planet.

Hmmmmm, Freedom and Independence does seem to breed these sorts of things in people but why ? Is it because one has to seperate oneself from the bad in this nation, instead of inviting them in foolishly or trying to live with them foolishly, until they finally attempt to kill you either economically, maybe take your freedoms, your happiness, your livelyhood, your 20 oz soda's, your guns, your money through over taxing you, (i.e.never let a good crisis go to waste), or to put you as sheeple under totalatarian control finally for the corporations and/or those who need you as sheeple ? Now for the real bad amongst us, for whom the libs want us defenseless against, well they will be made easier to just murder us and/or our families anywhere, and at anytime before the cops get there, but not if they are met with a gun in the hands of the good people instantly..

It is about survival of the fittest. IOW, they may live in the 21st century but their mind set is in the Stone Age...

If the stone age is still popular in this respect, then bring back the stone age.

 

[rightwinger]

I know what you're saying.

You're saying there's no point in protecting them. Got it. Let them take their chances.

Is each kid going to have a personal bodyguard?
What happens when they're out of sight of the fire command centre or the pillbox in the middle of the playground?

So, if every child can't have an armed bodyguard 24/7, you think we should just pass on protecting them at schools, where everybody knows they congregate and where everybody knows there is no meaningful protection against ANYONE who wants to kill a LOT of people?

Really.

That isn't even reasonable enough to contest. I'll just let it stand on it's own.

Post local police when they get off the bus and enter the school. Once every student is in the school, lock it down. Not pretty looking glass doors that let the sun in, but real doors that keep anyone from breaking through. When the kids leave for the day, have police escort to the bus.

No need to arm every teacher

 

[ABikerSailor]

Is each kid going to have a personal bodyguard?
What happens when they're out of sight of the fire command centre or the pillbox in the middle of the playground?

So, if every child can't have an armed bodyguard 24/7, you think we should just pass on protecting them at schools, where everybody knows they congregate and where everybody knows there is no meaningful protection against ANYONE who wants to kill a LOT of people?

Really.

That isn't even reasonable enough to contest. I'll just let it stand on it's own.

Post local police when they get off the bus and enter the school. Once every student is in the school, lock it down. Not pretty looking glass doors that let the sun in, but real doors that keep anyone from breaking through. When the kids leave for the day, have police escort to the bus.

No need to arm every teacher

Cool.................heavily armed doors with armed guards on patrol.

So...............it's time to turn our schools into prisons?

 

[koshergrl]

Is each kid going to have a personal bodyguard?
What happens when they're out of sight of the fire command centre or the pillbox in the middle of the playground?

So, if every child can't have an armed bodyguard 24/7, you think we should just pass on protecting them at schools, where everybody knows they congregate and where everybody knows there is no meaningful protection against ANYONE who wants to kill a LOT of people?

Really.

That isn't even reasonable enough to contest. I'll just let it stand on it's own.

When have I ever said that?
But if the only answer to a gun problem is more guns, where is the line to be drawn?

That isn't the question. Your question is a logical fallacy that has nothing to do with the issue.

The question is how do we protect our children from being slaughtered by mentally ill whack jobs, who have been targeting them for almost a century?

We protect them using guns. Obviously, the "gun free" zone thing is exactly zero effective.

 

[koshergrl]

So, if every child can't have an armed bodyguard 24/7, you think we should just pass on protecting them at schools, where everybody knows they congregate and where everybody knows there is no meaningful protection against ANYONE who wants to kill a LOT of people?

Really.

That isn't even reasonable enough to contest. I'll just let it stand on it's own.

Post local police when they get off the bus and enter the school. Once every student is in the school, lock it down. Not pretty looking glass doors that let the sun in, but real doors that keep anyone from breaking through. When the kids leave for the day, have police escort to the bus.

No need to arm every teacher

Cool.................heavily armed doors with armed guards on patrol.

So...............it's time to turn our schools into prisons?

I guess it's better to line them up against the wall, so any loon can shoot them down.

How many inmates have been killed by loons walking in off the street?

 

[Foxfyre]

Untrue. I just have to prove that I need a gun...not too hard to do if I really wanted one....

That MIGHT get you a single shot .22 - but level 3 (or C) is where the real guns start. Sheep Shaggers apparently can't be trusted with weapons.

A gun is a gun. Why would I need anything more than a .22? Govt out to get me?

In my opinion, in cases of self defense, a .22 is a great weapon against an enraged squirrel or rabbit. But when confronted by a large mammal or crazed, drugged out assailant determined to commit mayhem, you better be a deadly accurate shot with a .22 and know precisely what you are aiming for. A .38 is better; a .45 or 12 guage loaded with buckshot is best.

 

[beagle9]

The mass shootings, including those in schools, are not a phenomenon unique to the United States. According to a recent CNN article, the U.K., Finland, and Australia, just to name a few, have endured the same kinds of unconscionable massacres. And this after continual and repeated tightening of gun laws in those respective countries.

But I get weary of those who look to countries with different cultures, much tinier in size and population, and designed on much different principles than is the U.S.A. for the answers. But if you insist on doing that, why not look to Israel and other places where faculties are armed, and therefore there are no massacres in their schools?

Why not look to our own people, study our own cultural complexities, and devise policy and systems that will be effective here? And if providing school faculties with the means of protecting the kids against those who would harm them would save a single child from the tragedy that happened at Sandy Hook Elementary, why would any rational person oppose that?

Yes, you have the immediate problem of protecting the kids from nutters but there has to be a greater discussion on why the US is som much more violent than other similar countries.

I don't believe you can compare the measures taken in countries like Israel when they are actually protecting against outside aggressors...they're in the middle of a war zone.
You are looking to protect against other US citizens...shouldn't that be concerning and cause questions to be asked?

If the basic culture isn't addressed where will it end?
Will people start actually living in fortified enclaves to protect themselves while wild-eyed lunatics roam the land outside?

It's simple, the wolves look to feast where they can easily kill their prey (defenseless), and so if you create a happy hunting ground for the wolves (bad guy's) to feast or feed in, then how is it that you can't take this comparison to realize that we have wolves living in and amongst us, and they look always for weakness, so is it that the libs are a bunch of weak cubs who are confused, and that need people like us to help them understand the dangers in society now? I want it so they can live to be older and for another day in America, but they will keep dying by the thousands if they don't get a clue somehow soon. Is Chicago and places like that in America a happy hunting ground for wolves whom prey on these places and the weak people who are in confusion about these things ? Think about it !

Who or what is the main culture or political lean in that state ? Think about it !

What is the percentages of murders in that city ? Think about it !

 

[beagle9]

That MIGHT get you a single shot .22 - but level 3 (or C) is where the real guns start. Sheep Shaggers apparently can't be trusted with weapons.

A gun is a gun. Why would I need anything more than a .22? Govt out to get me?

In my opinion, in cases of self defense, a .22 is a great weapon against an enraged squirrel or rabbit. But when confronted by a large mammal or crazed, drugged out assailant determined to commit mayhem, you better be a deadly accurate shot with a .22 and know precisely what you are aiming for. A .38 is better; a .45 or 12 guage loaded with buckshot is best.

I see you took the time to explain that, but I don't think he is listening really...

 

[ABikerSailor]

Post local police when they get off the bus and enter the school. Once every student is in the school, lock it down. Not pretty looking glass doors that let the sun in, but real doors that keep anyone from breaking through. When the kids leave for the day, have police escort to the bus.

No need to arm every teacher

Cool.................heavily armed doors with armed guards on patrol.

So...............it's time to turn our schools into prisons?

I guess it's better to line them up against the wall, so any loon can shoot them down.

How many inmates have been killed by loons walking in off the street?

Are you off your meds again Krusty Twit?

We haven't turned our schools into prisons yet, and I'm pretty sure that some loon on the street would be hard pressed to sneak a gun into a prison so that he could kill an inmate. Not saying it can't be done, but it's pretty damn hard.

If you can start making sense, maybe we can discuss this. Until then? Gonna just scroll over your posts unless they actually make sense (rare) or are as stupid as this one.

 

[beagle9]

Post local police when they get off the bus and enter the school. Once every student is in the school, lock it down. Not pretty looking glass doors that let the sun in, but real doors that keep anyone from breaking through. When the kids leave for the day, have police escort to the bus.

No need to arm every teacher

Cool.................heavily armed doors with armed guards on patrol.

So...............it's time to turn our schools into prisons?

I guess it's better to line them up against the wall, so any loon can shoot them down.

How many inmates have been killed by loons walking in off the street?

If we would be honest and adress the real problems that make our nation ill, we would be able to avoid any of these measures, so hopefully soon some will come over to the good side of thinking before it's to late.

 

[JakeStarkey]

beagle9 is one of those human wolves he describes.

My handguns and long arms are enough for such. I not need assault weapons or enhanced mags.

Too Stupid.

 

[beagle9]

Is each kid going to have a personal bodyguard?
What happens when they're out of sight of the fire command centre or the pillbox in the middle of the playground?

So, if every child can't have an armed bodyguard 24/7, you think we should just pass on protecting them at schools, where everybody knows they congregate and where everybody knows there is no meaningful protection against ANYONE who wants to kill a LOT of people?

Really.

That isn't even reasonable enough to contest. I'll just let it stand on it's own.

Post local police when they get off the bus and enter the school. Once every student is in the school, lock it down. Not pretty looking glass doors that let the sun in, but real doors that keep anyone from breaking through. When the kids leave for the day, have police escort to the bus.

No need to arm every teacher

Two plain clothes security officers (maybe on a rotating basis with other areas in order to keep their identities concealed) is all that is needed in each shool from here on out, end of story..

 

[koshergrl]

Cool.................heavily armed doors with armed guards on patrol.

So...............it's time to turn our schools into prisons?

I guess it's better to line them up against the wall, so any loon can shoot them down.

How many inmates have been killed by loons walking in off the street?

Are you off your meds again Krusty Twit?

We haven't turned our schools into prisons yet, and I'm pretty sure that some loon on the street would be hard pressed to sneak a gun into a prison so that he could kill an inmate. Not saying it can't be done, but it's pretty damn hard.

If you can start making sense, maybe we can discuss this. Until then? Gonna just scroll over your posts unless they actually make sense (rare) or are as stupid as this one.

Wow it's not even friday yet, are we going to get the joy of your psychotic break a few days early this week?

 

[koshergrl]

If you feel it coming on, make sure you head to the tavern to make an ass of yourself there, again.

 

[beagle9]

beagle9 is one of those human wolves he describes.

My handguns and long arms are enough for such. I not need assault weapons or enhanced mags.

Too Stupid.

How anyone here put's up with you is amazing actually..

 

[koshergrl]

Most people have him on ignore.

Including the intelligent left wingers. Even they avoid him.

 

[beagle9]

So, you're happy that the US is the only advanced Western country that has to isolate its kids away in armed fortifications from its own citizens for their protection?

I know this is a very hard concept for you because it won't fit on a bumper sticker, but isn't this the very reason you should be talking about the wider issues...including, but not limited to, firearms regulation.
Nutcases like you are the ones that are endangering your own kids by refusing to discuss these things because it might 'infringe your civil rights'.

Do you get it now you selfish bitch?

At the core of any neocon, right-wing loon is their own ego. It's all about "me, me, me" to them. You would never meet a more self-centred, self-righteous, egotistical, selfish group of people anywhere on the planet.

It is about survival of the fittest. IOW, they may live in the 21st century but their mind set is in the Stone Age...

This picture is in-appropriate for this thread I think...

 

[rightwinger]

So, if every child can't have an armed bodyguard 24/7, you think we should just pass on protecting them at schools, where everybody knows they congregate and where everybody knows there is no meaningful protection against ANYONE who wants to kill a LOT of people?

Really.

That isn't even reasonable enough to contest. I'll just let it stand on it's own.

Post local police when they get off the bus and enter the school. Once every student is in the school, lock it down. Not pretty looking glass doors that let the sun in, but real doors that keep anyone from breaking through. When the kids leave for the day, have police escort to the bus.

No need to arm every teacher

Two plain clothes security officers (maybe on a rotating basis with other areas in order to keep their identities concealed) is all that is needed in each shool from here on out, end of story..

Agree. Thirty minutes in the morning, thirty minutes in the afternoon.

Lock down the school during the day. One point of access for visitors with an ID and a reason for being there

 

[beagle9]

Administrators are hired to manage, teachers to teacher. Neither are hired to carry guns. Period.

Trained armed security personnel who do it for a living are the logical answer.

Yes, you far right wacks, it is going to cost, and it is going to come out of our pockets.

Get used to the idea, because it will happen in the next few months in all fifty states, either by executive or legislative action.

Lock down the schools....secure the entries

You can't have an armed security guard everywhere. You can't have an armed responsible adult everywhere your child goes. Nor would you want to

Maybe a handgun should be required materials for each child to bring to school...along with their graph paper, rulers, pencil sharpeners, lined exercise books etc.
They've got to learn personal responsibility sometime - after all, Mummy and Daddy won't always be there to protect them.

I garantee you if we wanted them to be this smart they could be, but we want them to enjoy their childhood and innocence, but if the libs keep distracting or confusing these issues, then we just may end up having to get them to this level soon...