Dr Grump
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Jews are semites...
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Dr Grump said:Jews are semites...
Kathianne said:Not all, there are African, European, and American Jews. Of course if one traces 'bloodlines' perhaps the entire human race are Semites...
Dr Grump said:As far as I know the European and American Jews (most of whom are ashkenazi and sephardi sp?) are descended from the original Jews who are descendants of the diaspora. The Ethiopian Jews are converts (as far as I know)...
Kathianne said:And many of all of these do not have the 'common language' that unites Semites. Again, Jews could be considered to have a culture, those that practice a religious group, and there certainly could be a grouping by traditions. By race? No.
Right, American is not a race. In America you have all sorts of races, ethnic groups, religions, etc. We also tend to blend lots of cultures, traditions, etc. Then again, within the 'blend' some keep the traditions/cultures they brought here, very much alive and not so blended.Dr Grump said:OK. But you also said American Jews. American is not a race...
Kathianne said:Not true. Just search under jews + race + religion domain of .edu., you'll find untrue.
Second, same search, .org and you'll find that only organizations such as Stormfront will back you up, hardly a 'jewish' group. By your definition, converts would be switching 'races', which is simply not possible.
Jews consider that they have a unique culture, that crosses racial, nationalistic lines, then again so do Christians.
Kathianne said:Not all, there are African, European, and American Jews. Of course if one traces 'bloodlines' perhaps the entire human race are Semites...
We'd all be Semetic, not Jews.rtwngAvngr said:So either we're all jews, or jews are not a race. How's the reality blocking screen today?
rtwngAvngr said:Then again. If one's mother is jew, one is considered a jew, even if one doesn't know anything about judaism. so....
To me that's race.
And when god promised to multiply them? You think he meant through conversion? Interesting.
Kathianne said:LOL, so your father is black, your mother white, that does NOT make you white, no matter what is said.
Kathianne said:LOL, so your father is black, your mother white, that does NOT make you white, no matter what is said.
race is not the same as religion. Race is a 'given', you can be such and such a percentage, but what the world will see are the features of the dominant gene-IE the amount of melanin, the eyes, the nose, hair texture, etc.rtwngAvngr said:I'm half white. For jews, half is all it takes. So it's a half race?
Kathianne said:race is not the same as religion. Race is a 'given', you can be such and such a percentage, but what the world will see are the features of the dominant gene-IE the amount of melanin, the eyes, the nose, hair texture, etc.
Semetic is racial, those from the mid-east share certain characteristics.
Religion is not. Culture is not.
LOL, then why aren't their numbers through the roof? Your 'idea' was dead before you created it.rtwngAvngr said:But still jews consider someone a jew if their mother is a jew, even if they know nothing of judaism.
In judaism race and religion have been comingled. True they accept converts, but they're not really excited about it.
Do you think moses meant they would be multiplied by spreading judaism through conversion? No. It's a promise of increased genetic propagation and reproduction.
Kathianne said:LOL, then why aren't their numbers through the roof? Your 'idea' was dead before you created it.
Oh well, I hope you see it in your lifetime, so that your happy dance makes sense.rtwngAvngr said:According to their theology, their time to rule the world is coming.
Kathianne said:Oh well, I hope you see it in your lifetime, so that your happy dance makes sense.