Are Christians Perfect?

[Avatar4321]

They don't turn the other cheek

They don't walk the extra mile

They don't love their neighbors

They don't love their enemies

They don't pray for those who curse and despise them

They don't voluntarily throw in their cloak after they've been sued in court for their coat

They lie just like every body else...they might call them little white ones but they lie

If they tithe they decide whether it's their net or their gross to base it on...most pick net....many don't even pretend to do it

They aren't perfect even as the father is perfect:

Matthew 5:
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect

Odd, I pray for you all the time. Who told you otherwise?

 

[Avatar4321]

Just a question:

Why do you think Christ commanded us to be perfect?

Because we aren't.

So why would you expect us to be perfect when Christ already made it clear we aren't?

And He never said gave us a time table of when we needed to be perfect.

 

[aris2chat]

Just a question:

Why do you think Christ commanded us to be perfect?

Because we aren't.

So why would you expect us to be perfect when Christ already made it clear we aren't?

And He never said gave us a time table of when we needed to be perfect.

Mat 5:43 is talking about loving others

 

[Avatar4321]

Just a question:

Why do you think Christ commanded us to be perfect?

Because we aren't.

So why would you expect us to be perfect when Christ already made it clear we aren't?

And He never said gave us a time table of when we needed to be perfect.

Mat 5:43 is talking about loving others

True, but we are talking about Matthew 5:48

 

[Care4all]

They don't turn the other cheek

They don't walk the extra mile

They don't love their neighbors

They don't love their enemies

They don't pray for those who curse and despise them

They don't voluntarily throw in their cloak after they've been sued in court for their coat

They lie just like every body else...they might call them little white ones but they lie

If they tithe they decide whether it's their net or their gross to base it on...most pick net....many don't even pretend to do it

They aren't perfect even as the father is perfect:

Matthew 5:
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect

I certainly can't speak for all of them but I'm not only perfect, I'm beautiful.

I can see that in your Avatar pic!

 

[aris2chat]

Just a question:

Why do you think Christ commanded us to be perfect?

Because we aren't.

So why would you expect us to be perfect when Christ already made it clear we aren't?

And He never said gave us a time table of when we needed to be perfect.

Mat 5:43 is talking about loving others

True, but we are talking about Matthew 5:48

read it as a paragraph not as a separate line by itself

Contest of the whole should be considered.

 

[the_human_being]

They don't turn the other cheek

They don't walk the extra mile

They don't love their neighbors

They don't love their enemies

They don't pray for those who curse and despise them

They don't voluntarily throw in their cloak after they've been sued in court for their coat

They lie just like every body else...they might call them little white ones but they lie

If they tithe they decide whether it's their net or their gross to base it on...most pick net....many don't even pretend to do it

They aren't perfect even as the father is perfect:

Matthew 5:
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect

I certainly can't speak for all of them but I'm not only perfect, I'm beautiful.

I can see that in your Avatar pic!

I cannot deny that I am one handsome little devil.

 

[ninja007]

actually perfect no; positionally perfect, yes.

 

[HaShev]

ninja positioned how, do you not read the Bible, the ones who follow the false messiah fall with him.
And so his apostles fell with him and early Christians fell in Rome and today Christians complain of persecution.
David Koresh followers fell with him, Jim Jones Followers fell with him, Applegaye folliwers fell with him, Manson Followers fell with him,,,,getting the pattern here?

 

[UllysesS.Archer]

Romans 3:23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

The Bible doesn't say everyone but Christians, or only Christians, it says all have sinned.

 

[HaShev]

Romans 3:23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

The Bible doesn't say everyone but Christians, or only Christians, it says all have sinned.

Including the many figures used to create the image of Jesus. And yet people are warned that the son of perdition would be the image of a man deemed
Christ (anointed) Nazarene(guardian=cherub)
made perfect until you see the iniquities in this fabricated image.-Ezekiel 28:14-15

 

[Skull Pilot]

They don't turn the other cheek

They don't walk the extra mile

They don't love their neighbors

They don't love their enemies

They don't pray for those who curse and despise them

They don't voluntarily throw in their cloak after they've been sued in court for their coat

They lie just like every body else...they might call them little white ones but they lie

If they tithe they decide whether it's their net or their gross to base it on...most pick net....many don't even pretend to do it

They aren't perfect even as the father is perfect:

Matthew 5:
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect

Are you perfect?

 

[Campbell]

They don't turn the other cheek

They don't walk the extra mile

They don't love their neighbors

They don't love their enemies

They don't pray for those who curse and despise them

They don't voluntarily throw in their cloak after they've been sued in court for their coat

They lie just like every body else...they might call them little white ones but they lie

If they tithe they decide whether it's their net or their gross to base it on...most pick net....many don't even pretend to do it

They aren't perfect even as the father is perfect:

Matthew 5:
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect

Are you perfect?

Not even close!

I don't worship ancient gods and believe fairy tales written by folks who believed in witches and thought the earth was flat either.

 

[Skull Pilot]

They don't turn the other cheek

They don't walk the extra mile

They don't love their neighbors

They don't love their enemies

They don't pray for those who curse and despise them

They don't voluntarily throw in their cloak after they've been sued in court for their coat

They lie just like every body else...they might call them little white ones but they lie

If they tithe they decide whether it's their net or their gross to base it on...most pick net....many don't even pretend to do it

They aren't perfect even as the father is perfect:

Matthew 5:
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect

Are you perfect?

Not even close!

I don't worship ancient gods and believe fairy tales written by folks who believed in witches and thought the earth was flat either.

Neither do I but I do not presume to question the perfection of others since I know I am not perfect myself

Why do you?

 

[Campbell]

They don't turn the other cheek

They don't walk the extra mile

They don't love their neighbors

They don't love their enemies

They don't pray for those who curse and despise them

They don't voluntarily throw in their cloak after they've been sued in court for their coat

They lie just like every body else...they might call them little white ones but they lie

If they tithe they decide whether it's their net or their gross to base it on...most pick net....many don't even pretend to do it

They aren't perfect even as the father is perfect:

Matthew 5:
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect

Are you perfect?

Not even close!

I don't worship ancient gods and believe fairy tales written by folks who believed in witches and thought the earth was flat either.

Neither do I but I do not presume to question the perfection of others since I know I am not perfect myself

Why do you?

In no way do I consider myself perfect. Just when did you get the idea I do??

I do not believe ancient loads of bullshit written by camel and goat herders who shit on the ground and wiped on their hands....especially when their story is based upon one which had a dozen versions and circulated around N. Africa and the middle east beginning about 3500 years ago. One of every five men claimed to be the son of god and one of every three were named Jesus.

10 Christ-like Figures Who Pre-Date Jesus - Listverse

 

[Skull Pilot]

They don't turn the other cheek

They don't walk the extra mile

They don't love their neighbors

They don't love their enemies

They don't pray for those who curse and despise them

They don't voluntarily throw in their cloak after they've been sued in court for their coat

They lie just like every body else...they might call them little white ones but they lie

If they tithe they decide whether it's their net or their gross to base it on...most pick net....many don't even pretend to do it

They aren't perfect even as the father is perfect:

Matthew 5:
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect

Are you perfect?

Not even close!

I don't worship ancient gods and believe fairy tales written by folks who believed in witches and thought the earth was flat either.

Neither do I but I do not presume to question the perfection of others since I know I am not perfect myself

Why do you?

In no way do I consider myself perfect. Just when did you get the idea I do??

I do not believe ancient loads of bullshit written by camel and goat herders who shit on the ground and wiped on their hands....especially when their story is based upon one which had a dozen versions and circulated around N. Africa and the middle east beginning about 3500 years ago. One of every five men claimed to be the son of god and one of every three were named Jesus.

10 Christ-like Figures Who Pre-Date Jesus - Listverse

When you question the perfection of others it comes from a place of hubris stemming from a sense of superiority

BTW I am an atheist and don't feel threatened by the beliefs of the religious in fact I couldn't care less

Why are you so concerned with other peoples' religious belifs to the point you feel the need to question their perfection when you yourself admit you are far from perfect

 

[Campbell]

They don't turn the other cheek

They don't walk the extra mile

They don't love their neighbors

They don't love their enemies

They don't pray for those who curse and despise them

They don't voluntarily throw in their cloak after they've been sued in court for their coat

They lie just like every body else...they might call them little white ones but they lie

If they tithe they decide whether it's their net or their gross to base it on...most pick net....many don't even pretend to do it

They aren't perfect even as the father is perfect:

Matthew 5:
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect

Are you perfect?

Not even close!

I don't worship ancient gods and believe fairy tales written by folks who believed in witches and thought the earth was flat either.

Neither do I but I do not presume to question the perfection of others since I know I am not perfect myself

Why do you?

In no way do I consider myself perfect. Just when did you get the idea I do??

I do not believe ancient loads of bullshit written by camel and goat herders who shit on the ground and wiped on their hands....especially when their story is based upon one which had a dozen versions and circulated around N. Africa and the middle east beginning about 3500 years ago. One of every five men claimed to be the son of god and one of every three were named Jesus.

10 Christ-like Figures Who Pre-Date Jesus - Listverse

When you question the perfection of others it comes from a place of hubris stemming from a sense of superiority

BTW I am an atheist and don't feel threatened by the beliefs of the religious in fact I couldn't care less

Why are you so concerned with other peoples' religious belifs to the point you feel the need to question their perfection when you yourself admit you are far from perfect

Bullshit!!
You don't know me nor do you know a thing about me. I'll tell you why I feel strongly about the religious bullshit that continues in this country. By the time I was four or five years old my maternal grandmother was already working hard on my brainwashing. If I did something a little naughty or against her personal belief she would tell me, "Old Scratch Will Get You!" Old Scratch being her name for Satan. She would walk over a mile in the snow to make church services on a Wednesday evening or Sunday Morning.

In grammar school, 3rd and 4th grades my west TN teachers would begin each day with the pledge of allegiance and the Lord's Prayer. On Mondays they assigned each student a bible verse to memorize and recite back to the class on Thursday or Friday. I read the bible and the book of Mormon through while I was still in my teens. I had read the new testament no less than ten times while I was in my twenties. I was baptized in a Baptist church before a congregation of nearly a thousand on a Sunday morning in the spring of 1957. I was a Sunday school teacher, a member of the building committee and the Brotherhood. I worked with RA Boys and coached one of their baseball teams. I was a substitute usher. I spoke with personal testimony in nearby small churches. I visited the sick on Tuesday evenings and twice a year we visited a prison or a jail. We tithed our gross. I walked the walk.

I used to sit in the sanctuary on Sunday mornings and look around at the faces of others and wonder if they
doubted the way I did. I was two-faced until I was over sixty years old. After I retired I made a major decision.
I did not want to keep living a lie.....I never believed all that malarkey.

I had most of the new testament memorized chapter and verse while I was still in my twenties and 90% of
Christians don't know (*)(*)(*)(*) about the bible. Most have a few favorite verses and listen to the self
serving messages from a preacher when they go to church but that's usually it. I love to see the look on their
faces when I lace them with a couple of verses which absolutely states the opposite of something they have
declared. I'm on a mission. As long as innocent children are being methodically brainwashed with that horse shit I will be speaking up.....at least till I die.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Are you perfect?

Not even close!

I don't worship ancient gods and believe fairy tales written by folks who believed in witches and thought the earth was flat either.

Neither do I but I do not presume to question the perfection of others since I know I am not perfect myself

Why do you?

In no way do I consider myself perfect. Just when did you get the idea I do??

I do not believe ancient loads of bullshit written by camel and goat herders who shit on the ground and wiped on their hands....especially when their story is based upon one which had a dozen versions and circulated around N. Africa and the middle east beginning about 3500 years ago. One of every five men claimed to be the son of god and one of every three were named Jesus.

10 Christ-like Figures Who Pre-Date Jesus - Listverse

When you question the perfection of others it comes from a place of hubris stemming from a sense of superiority

BTW I am an atheist and don't feel threatened by the beliefs of the religious in fact I couldn't care less

Why are you so concerned with other peoples' religious belifs to the point you feel the need to question their perfection when you yourself admit you are far from perfect

Bullshit!!
You don't know me nor do you know a thing about me. I'll tell you why I feel strongly about the religious bullshit that continues in this country. By the time I was four or five years old my maternal grandmother was already working hard on my brainwashing. If I did something a little naughty or against her personal belief she would tell me, "Old Scratch Will Get You!" Old Scratch being her name for Satan. She would walk over a mile in the snow to make church services on a Wednesday evening or Sunday Morning.

In grammar school, 3rd and 4th grades my west TN teachers would begin each day with the pledge of allegiance and the Lord's Prayer. On Mondays they assigned each student a bible verse to memorize and recite back to the class on Thursday or Friday. I read the bible and the book of Mormon through while I was still in my teens. I had read the new testament no less than ten times while I was in my twenties. I was baptized in a Baptist church before a congregation of nearly a thousand on a Sunday morning in the spring of 1957. I was a Sunday school teacher, a member of the building committee and the Brotherhood. I worked with RA Boys and coached one of their baseball teams. I was a substitute usher. I spoke with personal testimony in nearby small churches. I visited the sick on Tuesday evenings and twice a year we visited a prison or a jail. We tithed our gross. I walked the walk.

I used to sit in the sanctuary on Sunday mornings and look around at the faces of others and wonder if they
doubted the way I did. I was two-faced until I was over sixty years old. After I retired I made a major decision.
I did not want to keep living a lie.....I never believed all that malarkey.
I had most of the new testament memorized chapter and verse while I was still in my twenties and 90% of
Christians don't know (*)(*)(*)(*) about the bible. Most have a few favorite verses and listen to the self
serving messages from a preacher when they go to church but that's usually it. I love to see the look on their
faces when I lace them with a couple of verses which absolutely states the opposite of something they have
declared. I'm on a mission. As long as innocent children are being methodically brainwashed with that horse shit I will be speaking up.....at least till I die.

Want a tissue?

I walked out of a Catholic CCD class because a priest told me I was not to ask questions I was only to listen and believe

I was 8

SO stop whining what other people believe is none of your fucking business and you certainly should not be inquiring as to the perfection of others until you are perfect

 

[Campbell]

Not even close!

I don't worship ancient gods and believe fairy tales written by folks who believed in witches and thought the earth was flat either.

Neither do I but I do not presume to question the perfection of others since I know I am not perfect myself

Why do you?

In no way do I consider myself perfect. Just when did you get the idea I do??

I do not believe ancient loads of bullshit written by camel and goat herders who shit on the ground and wiped on their hands....especially when their story is based upon one which had a dozen versions and circulated around N. Africa and the middle east beginning about 3500 years ago. One of every five men claimed to be the son of god and one of every three were named Jesus.

10 Christ-like Figures Who Pre-Date Jesus - Listverse

When you question the perfection of others it comes from a place of hubris stemming from a sense of superiority

BTW I am an atheist and don't feel threatened by the beliefs of the religious in fact I couldn't care less

Why are you so concerned with other peoples' religious belifs to the point you feel the need to question their perfection when you yourself admit you are far from perfect

Bullshit!!
You don't know me nor do you know a thing about me. I'll tell you why I feel strongly about the religious bullshit that continues in this country. By the time I was four or five years old my maternal grandmother was already working hard on my brainwashing. If I did something a little naughty or against her personal belief she would tell me, "Old Scratch Will Get You!" Old Scratch being her name for Satan. She would walk over a mile in the snow to make church services on a Wednesday evening or Sunday Morning.

In grammar school, 3rd and 4th grades my west TN teachers would begin each day with the pledge of allegiance and the Lord's Prayer. On Mondays they assigned each student a bible verse to memorize and recite back to the class on Thursday or Friday. I read the bible and the book of Mormon through while I was still in my teens. I had read the new testament no less than ten times while I was in my twenties. I was baptized in a Baptist church before a congregation of nearly a thousand on a Sunday morning in the spring of 1957. I was a Sunday school teacher, a member of the building committee and the Brotherhood. I worked with RA Boys and coached one of their baseball teams. I was a substitute usher. I spoke with personal testimony in nearby small churches. I visited the sick on Tuesday evenings and twice a year we visited a prison or a jail. We tithed our gross. I walked the walk.

I used to sit in the sanctuary on Sunday mornings and look around at the faces of others and wonder if they
doubted the way I did. I was two-faced until I was over sixty years old. After I retired I made a major decision.
I did not want to keep living a lie.....I never believed all that malarkey.
I had most of the new testament memorized chapter and verse while I was still in my twenties and 90% of
Christians don't know (*)(*)(*)(*) about the bible. Most have a few favorite verses and listen to the self
serving messages from a preacher when they go to church but that's usually it. I love to see the look on their
faces when I lace them with a couple of verses which absolutely states the opposite of something they have
declared. I'm on a mission. As long as innocent children are being methodically brainwashed with that horse shit I will be speaking up.....at least till I die.

Want a tissue?

I walked out of a Catholic CCD class because a priest told me I was not to ask questions I was only to listen and believe

I was 8

SO stop whining what other people believe is none of your fucking business and you certainly should not be inquiring as to the perfection of others until you are perfect

This is a public forum....put me on your ignore list and kiss my big orange, east Tennessee, coon dawg ass!!!!!

 

[Skull Pilot]

Neither do I but I do not presume to question the perfection of others since I know I am not perfect myself

Why do you?

In no way do I consider myself perfect. Just when did you get the idea I do??

I do not believe ancient loads of bullshit written by camel and goat herders who shit on the ground and wiped on their hands....especially when their story is based upon one which had a dozen versions and circulated around N. Africa and the middle east beginning about 3500 years ago. One of every five men claimed to be the son of god and one of every three were named Jesus.

10 Christ-like Figures Who Pre-Date Jesus - Listverse

When you question the perfection of others it comes from a place of hubris stemming from a sense of superiority

BTW I am an atheist and don't feel threatened by the beliefs of the religious in fact I couldn't care less

Why are you so concerned with other peoples' religious belifs to the point you feel the need to question their perfection when you yourself admit you are far from perfect

Bullshit!!
You don't know me nor do you know a thing about me. I'll tell you why I feel strongly about the religious bullshit that continues in this country. By the time I was four or five years old my maternal grandmother was already working hard on my brainwashing. If I did something a little naughty or against her personal belief she would tell me, "Old Scratch Will Get You!" Old Scratch being her name for Satan. She would walk over a mile in the snow to make church services on a Wednesday evening or Sunday Morning.

In grammar school, 3rd and 4th grades my west TN teachers would begin each day with the pledge of allegiance and the Lord's Prayer. On Mondays they assigned each student a bible verse to memorize and recite back to the class on Thursday or Friday. I read the bible and the book of Mormon through while I was still in my teens. I had read the new testament no less than ten times while I was in my twenties. I was baptized in a Baptist church before a congregation of nearly a thousand on a Sunday morning in the spring of 1957. I was a Sunday school teacher, a member of the building committee and the Brotherhood. I worked with RA Boys and coached one of their baseball teams. I was a substitute usher. I spoke with personal testimony in nearby small churches. I visited the sick on Tuesday evenings and twice a year we visited a prison or a jail. We tithed our gross. I walked the walk.

I used to sit in the sanctuary on Sunday mornings and look around at the faces of others and wonder if they
doubted the way I did. I was two-faced until I was over sixty years old. After I retired I made a major decision.
I did not want to keep living a lie.....I never believed all that malarkey.
I had most of the new testament memorized chapter and verse while I was still in my twenties and 90% of
Christians don't know (*)(*)(*)(*) about the bible. Most have a few favorite verses and listen to the self
serving messages from a preacher when they go to church but that's usually it. I love to see the look on their
faces when I lace them with a couple of verses which absolutely states the opposite of something they have
declared. I'm on a mission. As long as innocent children are being methodically brainwashed with that horse shit I will be speaking up.....at least till I die.

Want a tissue?

I walked out of a Catholic CCD class because a priest told me I was not to ask questions I was only to listen and believe

I was 8

SO stop whining what other people believe is none of your fucking business and you certainly should not be inquiring as to the perfection of others until you are perfect

This is a public forum....put me on your ignore list and kiss my big orange, east Tennessee, coon dawg ass!!!!!

Another redneck whiner