Are conservatives smarter than liberals?

[LoneLaugher]

Every day on this board we seem to have threads about 'how stupid are libs?', 'dimbocrats', 'typical liberal stupidity'....you know the drill.

The strange thing is, I don't see a lot of posts claiming the opposite. Some comments, sure, but I think most people will agree that there are far, far more posts labelling liberalism as being in some way stupid, a mental illness etc than there are posts about conservatism claiming the same superiority.

I don't get this at all - I see no link between political views and intelligence. I've met some brilliant socialists, a couple of brilliant fascists, and everything in between. I have met enough painfully stupid liberals and painfully stupid conservatives that I don't think either side are in too great a position to start claiming a monopoly on smarts.

Isn't claiming 'liberalism is a mental illness' the kind of Catch 22 comment that only an intellectual dwarf could assume?

Or is there a reason that some conservatives believe they are intellectually superior?

Oh shut up, go read ANY RDean thread, as one example, and you will see a liberal claiming conservatives are stupid.

And guess what? Both views are wrong. There are smart and dumb liberals and smart and dumb conservatives.

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

Wow! That's really groundbreaking theory you have there.

The OP was clear. The are differing degrees of this trait here.

Most of you guys like to bring up RDean all the time. Well....he's not stupid. He's just weird and has no filter. Whether or not he calls others stupid I couldn't tell you. I never read his shit any more.

Now....you have BigDerp in this thread calling every Obama supporter stupid. There are only a handful of USMB members who are less intelligent than BigDerp. Him calling most anyone besides Staph, Mud or Steve McRacist stupid is a huge pile of shit.

Tell him as much.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

Every day on this board we seem to have threads about 'how stupid are libs?', 'dimbocrats', 'typical liberal stupidity'....you know the drill.

The strange thing is, I don't see a lot of posts claiming the opposite. Some comments, sure, but I think most people will agree that there are far, far more posts labelling liberalism as being in some way stupid, a mental illness etc than there are posts about conservatism claiming the same superiority.

I don't get this at all - I see no link between political views and intelligence. I've met some brilliant socialists, a couple of brilliant fascists, and everything in between. I have met enough painfully stupid liberals and painfully stupid conservatives that I don't think either side are in too great a position to start claiming a monopoly on smarts.

Isn't claiming 'liberalism is a mental illness' the kind of Catch 22 comment that only an intellectual dwarf could assume?

Or is there a reason that some conservatives believe they are intellectually superior?

Oh shut up, go read ANY RDean thread, as one example, and you will see a liberal claiming conservatives are stupid.

And guess what? Both views are wrong. There are smart and dumb liberals and smart and dumb conservatives.

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

Wow! That's really groundbreaking theory you have there.

The OP was clear. The are differing degrees of this trait here.

Most of you guys like to bring up RDean all the time. Well....he's not stupid. He's just weird and has no filter. Whether or not he calls others stupid I couldn't tell you. I never read his shit any more.

Now....you have BigDerp in this thread calling every Obama supporter stupid. There are only a handful of USMB members who are less intelligent than BigDerp. Him calling most anyone besides Staph, Mud, Mathew, Steve McRacist, Billyrock or 2A stupid is a huge pile of shit.

Tell him as much.

Who's BIgDerp?

Matthew I know, he is clearly not very smart.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Every day on this board we seem to have threads about 'how stupid are libs?', 'dimbocrats', 'typical liberal stupidity'....you know the drill.

The strange thing is, I don't see a lot of posts claiming the opposite. Some comments, sure, but I think most people will agree that there are far, far more posts labelling liberalism as being in some way stupid, a mental illness etc than there are posts about conservatism claiming the same superiority.

I don't get this at all - I see no link between political views and intelligence. I've met some brilliant socialists, a couple of brilliant fascists, and everything in between. I have met enough painfully stupid liberals and painfully stupid conservatives that I don't think either side are in too great a position to start claiming a monopoly on smarts.

Isn't claiming 'liberalism is a mental illness' the kind of Catch 22 comment that only an intellectual dwarf could assume?

Or is there a reason that some conservatives believe they are intellectually superior?

Oh shut up, go read ANY RDean thread, as one example, and you will see a liberal claiming conservatives are stupid.

And guess what? Both views are wrong. There are smart and dumb liberals and smart and dumb conservatives.

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

Wow! That's really groundbreaking theory you have there.

The OP was clear. The are differing degrees of this trait here.

Most of you guys like to bring up RDean all the time. Well....he's not stupid. He's just weird and has no filter. Whether or not he calls others stupid I couldn't tell you. I never read his shit any more.

Now....you have BigDerp in this thread calling every Obama supporter stupid. There are only a handful of USMB members who are less intelligent than BigDerp. Him calling most anyone besides Staph, Mud, Mathew, Steve McRacist, Billyrock or 2A stupid is a huge pile of shit.

Tell him as much.

Who's BIgDerp?

Matthew I know, he is clearly not very smart.

Big Derp is BigReb.

Actually....I edited. Matthew is considerably smarter than Big Derp. I shouldn't have included him in that list.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

Every day on this board we seem to have threads about 'how stupid are libs?', 'dimbocrats', 'typical liberal stupidity'....you know the drill.

The strange thing is, I don't see a lot of posts claiming the opposite. Some comments, sure, but I think most people will agree that there are far, far more posts labelling liberalism as being in some way stupid, a mental illness etc than there are posts about conservatism claiming the same superiority.

I don't get this at all - I see no link between political views and intelligence. I've met some brilliant socialists, a couple of brilliant fascists, and everything in between. I have met enough painfully stupid liberals and painfully stupid conservatives that I don't think either side are in too great a position to start claiming a monopoly on smarts.

Isn't claiming 'liberalism is a mental illness' the kind of Catch 22 comment that only an intellectual dwarf could assume?

Or is there a reason that some conservatives believe they are intellectually superior?

Oh shut up, go read ANY RDean thread, as one example, and you will see a liberal claiming conservatives are stupid.

And guess what? Both views are wrong. There are smart and dumb liberals and smart and dumb conservatives.

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

Wow! That's really groundbreaking theory you have there.

The OP was clear. The are differing degrees of this trait here.

Most of you guys like to bring up RDean all the time. Well....he's not stupid. He's just weird and has no filter. Whether or not he calls others stupid I couldn't tell you. I never read his shit any more.

Now....you have BigDerp in this thread calling every Obama supporter stupid. There are only a handful of USMB members who are less intelligent than BigDerp. Him calling most anyone besides Staph, Mud, Mathew, Steve McRacist, Billyrock or 2A stupid is a huge pile of shit.

Tell him as much.

Who's BIgDerp?

Matthew I know, he is clearly not very smart.

Big Derp is BigReb.

Actually....I edited. Matthew is considerably smarter than Big Derp. I shouldn't have included him in that list.

Oh, then yes BigReb is ummm intellectually challenged.

 

[blackhawk]

Every day on this board we seem to have threads about 'how stupid are libs?', 'dimbocrats', 'typical liberal stupidity'....you know the drill.

The strange thing is, I don't see a lot of posts claiming the opposite. Some comments, sure, but I think most people will agree that there are far, far more posts labelling liberalism as being in some way stupid, a mental illness etc than there are posts about conservatism claiming the same superiority.

I don't get this at all - I see no link between political views and intelligence. I've met some brilliant socialists, a couple of brilliant fascists, and everything in between. I have met enough painfully stupid liberals and painfully stupid conservatives that I don't think either side are in too great a position to start claiming a monopoly on smarts.

Isn't claiming 'liberalism is a mental illness' the kind of Catch 22 comment that only an intellectual dwarf could assume?

Or is there a reason that some conservatives believe they are intellectually superior?

I have seen more than my fair share of threads and comments about how stupid conservatives are on these boards. If you want a truly great example in my opinion of how liberals feel about not just Republicans but the public in general look no farther than comments of Jonathan Gruber. Being liberal or conservative does not make you stupid saying and doing stupid stuff makes you stupid.

When I think of stupid Republicans, I think of Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann, and Louie Gohmert.

That whole Louie Gohmert thing is surprising, because he's well educated. He's most likely acting dumb so he doesn't threaten his average constituant.

Conservatives aren't stupid by nature...Tea Partiers are.

Individuals are stupid groups are not,

Yeah..."F" it...you know what?...you're right.

But until I meet an intelligent Tea Partier in real life, I'll stick with the generalization

Just curious how intelligent do you think generalization is?

 

[TooTall]

I myself would never use that word.
People that can work for a living but take government assistance programs.
Why should they when the can get more in assistance than working in a low paying job?
Would most work at a job that pays 12,000.00 a year or get government assistance that pays 32,000.00 a year?

We found who the 47% Romney trashed really are...

America's safety net is below almost every other industrialized country in every measure. America more closely resembles the likes of Mexico than a modern First World industrialized nation.

We heard the ignorant rant of Mitt Romney and his 47%...

If there is a citizenry on this planet that does NOT have an entitlement mentality, it is the American people. American workers receive less benefits, paid leave, health care and take less vacation time than any other people. American workers take pride in the quality of their work and their work ethic.

What Romney said is a gross insult and reveals a dangerous mindset. He reeks of contempt for middle class working people and the poor.

Who are the 47%?

Federal budget and Census data show that, in 2010, 91 percent of the benefit dollars from entitlement and other mandatory programs went to the elderly (people 65 and over), the seriously disabled, and members of working households. People who are neither elderly nor disabled — and do not live in a working household — received only 9 percent of the benefits.

Moreover, the vast bulk of that 9 percent goes for medical care, unemployment insurance benefits (which individuals must have a significant work history to receive), Social Security survivor benefits for the children and spouses of deceased workers, and Social Security benefits for retirees between ages 62 and 64. Seven out of the 9 percentage points go for one of these four purposes.

80 percent of the workforce has seen their wages decline in real terms over the last quarter-century, and the average household has seen 40 percent of its wealth disappear during the Great Recession. Through it all, families never asked for a handout from anyone, especially Washington. They were left to go on their own, working harder, squeezing nickels, and taking care of themselves. But their economic boats have been taking on water for years, and now the crisis has swamped millions of middle class families. ref ref

"Labor is the United States. The men and women, who with their minds, their hearts and hands, create the wealth that is shared in this country—they are America."
President Dwight D. Eisenhower

Maybe you should look at the latest polls to find out about the work ethic in the US.

"Nearly four in 10 Americans, or 92 million, are not in the labor force and now there’s a reason why: They have simply given up and don’t want to work.

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the largest group of people not in the labor force are those who don’t want a job, a remarkable statement on the nation’s work ethic. The federal job counter said that 85.9 million adults last month didn’t want a job, or 93 percent of all adults not in the labor force.

APew Research Center analysisout Friday dug a bit deeper to find out who those people are. Many are younger Americans who seem far less interested it landing a job than previous generations, possibly discouraged by the lack of good-paying jobs.

“Women are more likely than men to say they don’t want a job, although the gap has been narrowing — especially since the Great Recession. Last month, 28.5 percent of men said they didn’t want a job, up from 23.9 percent in October 2000 and 25.2 percent in October 2008. For women, the share saying they didn’t want a job hovered around 38 percent throughout the 2000s but began creeping up in 2010, reaching 40.2 percent last month,” said the Pew analysis."

Giving up 40 women 28 men 39 youth don t want a job WashingtonExaminer.com

So? Some 86 million don't want to work. So what? As a percentage of the population, that's not much higher than before Obama became president. And given we're in the age of baby boomers hitting retirement age, where roughly three times as many seniors are retiring than before 2008, that's not exactly a surprise.

Why work when you can elect Democrats and get free stuff from the suckers that do?

Republicans have been in control of spending for 16 of the last 20 years. Seems if people are getting free stuff these days, it's thanks to Republicans.

Republicans have tried to rein in spending several times. Do you remember the government shut down? That was about lowering spending. How about the sequestration? When there is nothing but a continuing resolution instead of a budget, spending is not controlled by anyone.

 

[depotoo]

You see, this is why Dems are losing the battle. The lies and exaggerations are being realized. You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool some of the people all of the time.

Every day on this board we seem to have threads about 'how stupid are libs?', 'dimbocrats', 'typical liberal stupidity'....you know the drill.

The strange thing is, I don't see a lot of posts claiming the opposite. Some comments, sure, but I think most people will agree that there are far, far more posts labelling liberalism as being in some way stupid, a mental illness etc than there are posts about conservatism claiming the same superiority.

I don't get this at all - I see no link between political views and intelligence. I've met some brilliant socialists, a couple of brilliant fascists, and everything in between. I have met enough painfully stupid liberals and painfully stupid conservatives that I don't think either side are in too great a position to start claiming a monopoly on smarts.

Isn't claiming 'liberalism is a mental illness' the kind of Catch 22 comment that only an intellectual dwarf could assume?

Or is there a reason that some conservatives believe they are intellectually superior?

the proof is the idiotic and harmful policies libs support- yes they are dumber; much more so.

^Like healthcare, housing, food and things like that?

huh? Conservatives don't support that?

We are discussing USA politics, not Capitalism. NO, Cons today don't believe in "entitlements" such as food/shelter/education/health. They OPENLY want to cut/end these programs.

 

[Bfgrn]

Thank you for proving my point...you don't use the 'word', instead you describe 'moocher'...

I just PROVED to you that there is no entitlement gone wild in America. But don't let FACTS dent your dogmatic parroting.

You have just described the right wing world view, not the view of our founders. Another 'word' for that is ignorance.

There is no "rapid mutation' going on except for the right being completely brainwashed by plutocrats and talking heads. The only 'entitlement mentality' in this country is from the wealthy, not the poor.

Did you see the resent video on the news with those women who had a hissy fit because they got there too late to get their egg Mcmuffin?

There you go...forget the FACTS, anecdotal evidence is all you need to reinforce your dogma...

A vast amount of people in this country has the attitude of give me, give me, give and I want it and I want it now.
An entitlement mentality is a state of mind in which an individual comes to believe that privileges are instead rights.
Lack of personal responsibility. Just as those with an entitlement mentality typically expect others to solve their problems, they also refuse to accept that the problems are of their own making.
Just like the women at McDonalds.
They arrived late after the breakfast served under the hours of......... and expected to still be able to order from the breakfast menu. It was their own fault for not getting there on time.

AGAIN...double down on your anecdotal evidence that supports your dogma...you CAN'T be wrong...

"Entitlement mentality" is a manufactured term used by the people who have brainwashed you...

The term "entitlement" originally referred to aristocrats. Aristocrats had titles, and they thought that they were thereby entitled to various things, particularly the deference of the common people. Everyone else, by contrast, was dependent on the aristocrats. This is conservatism. Yet in the 1990's, conservative rhetors decided that the people who actually claim entitlement are people on welfare. They furthermore created an empirically false association between welfare and dependency. But, as I have mentioned, welfare is precisely a way of eliminating dependency on the aristocracy and the cultural authorities that serve it. I do not recall anyone ever noting this inversion of meaning.

Oh Brother !
Talk about brainwashed

I see your indoctrination is complete. Even the icon of the right, F.A Hayek would dismiss today's social Darwinist conservatives.

"There is no reason why, in a society which has reached the general level of wealth ours has, (the certainty of a given minimum of sustenance) should not be guaranteed to all without endangering general freedom; that is: some minimum of food, shelter and clothing, sufficient to preserve health. Nor is there any reason why the state should not help to organize a comprehensive system of social insurance in providing for those common hazards of life against which few can make adequate provision."
Friedrich August von Hayek-The Road to Serfdom

"Conservatism, though a necessary element in any stable society, is not a social program; in its paternalistic, nationalistic and power adoring tendencies it is often closer to socialism than true liberalism; and with its traditionalistic, anti-intellectual, and often mystical propensities it will never, except in short periods of disillusionment, appeal to the young and all those others who believe that some changes are desirable if this world is to become a better place."
Friedrich August von Hayek-The Road to Serfdom

"In general, it can probably be said that the conservative does not object to coercion or arbitrary power so long as it is used for what he regards as the right purposes. He believes that if government is in the hands of decent men, it ought not to be too much restricted by rigid rules. Since he is essentially opportunist and lacks principles..."
Friedrich August von Hayek-Why I am Not a Conservative

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Every day on this board we seem to have threads about 'how stupid are libs?', 'dimbocrats', 'typical liberal stupidity'....you know the drill.

The strange thing is, I don't see a lot of posts claiming the opposite. Some comments, sure, but I think most people will agree that there are far, far more posts labelling liberalism as being in some way stupid, a mental illness etc than there are posts about conservatism claiming the same superiority.

I don't get this at all - I see no link between political views and intelligence. I've met some brilliant socialists, a couple of brilliant fascists, and everything in between. I have met enough painfully stupid liberals and painfully stupid conservatives that I don't think either side are in too great a position to start claiming a monopoly on smarts.

Isn't claiming 'liberalism is a mental illness' the kind of Catch 22 comment that only an intellectual dwarf could assume?

Or is there a reason that some conservatives believe they are intellectually superior?

Oh shut up, go read ANY RDean thread, as one example, and you will see a liberal claiming conservatives are stupid.

And guess what? Both views are wrong. There are smart and dumb liberals and smart and dumb conservatives.

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

Wow! That's really groundbreaking theory you have there.

The OP was clear. The are differing degrees of this trait here.

Most of you guys like to bring up RDean all the time. Well....he's not stupid. He's just weird and has no filter. Whether or not he calls others stupid I couldn't tell you. I never read his shit any more.

Now....you have BigDerp in this thread calling every Obama supporter stupid. There are only a handful of USMB members who are less intelligent than BigDerp. Him calling most anyone besides Staph, Mud or Steve McRacist stupid is a huge pile of shit.

Tell him as much.

While there are exceptions... the average Democrat is dumber than a bag of Hammers.

If this were a real time discussion, I'd launch into asking ANY of the in-house comrades BASIC questions regarding civics, business, US and world history, science and you'd find that very few if ANY of the contributors who advocate through Left-think would be able to correctly answer any of them, while most Americans would have no trouble answering most... .

 

[thereisnospoon]

most cons don't want to destroy America. Most libs do.

That's so entirely retarded.

I don't know any libs who want to destroy America.

Newsflash....There is one in the White House...

Funny how people say that about Obama, but I've never heard Obama say that.

Why would he.
See, the difference between you libs, who only pay attention to the things your side says. We conservatives reference what they DO.
Big difference. So let's see. An example of Obama SAYING he wants to "put America back to work".....What he does is Threaten to veto legislation to build Keystone XL....Promised with his stimulus "shovel ready jobs"....Oh that one frosted the cake. Some two years later Obama admitted there were no shovel ready jobs.
Care to change your bullshit story?

 

[thereisnospoon]

Conservatives give just as much to charities as Liberals do.
They do not hate the poor
We pay into those programs for years before we receive them.

Oh, so terms like 'moochers' is meant to be endearing...

I myself would never use that word.
People that can work for a living but take government assistance programs.
Why should they when the can get more in assistance than working in a low paying job?
Would most work at a job that pays 12,000.00 a year or get government assistance that pays 32,000.00 a year?

We found who the 47% Romney trashed really are...

America's safety net is below almost every other industrialized country in every measure. America more closely resembles the likes of Mexico than a modern First World industrialized nation.

We heard the ignorant rant of Mitt Romney and his 47%...

If there is a citizenry on this planet that does NOT have an entitlement mentality, it is the American people. American workers receive less benefits, paid leave, health care and take less vacation time than any other people. American workers take pride in the quality of their work and their work ethic.

What Romney said is a gross insult and reveals a dangerous mindset. He reeks of contempt for middle class working people and the poor.

Who are the 47%?

Federal budget and Census data show that, in 2010, 91 percent of the benefit dollars from entitlement and other mandatory programs went to the elderly (people 65 and over), the seriously disabled, and members of working households. People who are neither elderly nor disabled — and do not live in a working household — received only 9 percent of the benefits.

Moreover, the vast bulk of that 9 percent goes for medical care, unemployment insurance benefits (which individuals must have a significant work history to receive), Social Security survivor benefits for the children and spouses of deceased workers, and Social Security benefits for retirees between ages 62 and 64. Seven out of the 9 percentage points go for one of these four purposes.

80 percent of the workforce has seen their wages decline in real terms over the last quarter-century, and the average household has seen 40 percent of its wealth disappear during the Great Recession. Through it all, families never asked for a handout from anyone, especially Washington. They were left to go on their own, working harder, squeezing nickels, and taking care of themselves. But their economic boats have been taking on water for years, and now the crisis has swamped millions of middle class families. ref ref

"Labor is the United States. The men and women, who with their minds, their hearts and hands, create the wealth that is shared in this country—they are America."
President Dwight D. Eisenhower

Maybe you should look at the latest polls to find out about the work ethic in the US.

"Nearly four in 10 Americans, or 92 million, are not in the labor force and now there’s a reason why: They have simply given up and don’t want to work.

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the largest group of people not in the labor force are those who don’t want a job, a remarkable statement on the nation’s work ethic. The federal job counter said that 85.9 million adults last month didn’t want a job, or 93 percent of all adults not in the labor force.

APew Research Center analysisout Friday dug a bit deeper to find out who those people are. Many are younger Americans who seem far less interested it landing a job than previous generations, possibly discouraged by the lack of good-paying jobs.

“Women are more likely than men to say they don’t want a job, although the gap has been narrowing — especially since the Great Recession. Last month, 28.5 percent of men said they didn’t want a job, up from 23.9 percent in October 2000 and 25.2 percent in October 2008. For women, the share saying they didn’t want a job hovered around 38 percent throughout the 2000s but began creeping up in 2010, reaching 40.2 percent last month,” said the Pew analysis."

Giving up 40 women 28 men 39 youth don t want a job WashingtonExaminer.com

People that have given up, and are not looking for work.....are what's called "retired", and shouldn't be counted.

If you've given up, you're either on disability, found a sugar daddy or sugar mama, or you've just decided to tighhten your belts and let someone sit on the couch all day, or take care of the kids.

Retired at 42 with no savings and no retirement plan. Oh yeah. You are making sense.

 

[Bfgrn]

Every day on this board we seem to have threads about 'how stupid are libs?', 'dimbocrats', 'typical liberal stupidity'....you know the drill.

The strange thing is, I don't see a lot of posts claiming the opposite. Some comments, sure, but I think most people will agree that there are far, far more posts labelling liberalism as being in some way stupid, a mental illness etc than there are posts about conservatism claiming the same superiority.

I don't get this at all - I see no link between political views and intelligence. I've met some brilliant socialists, a couple of brilliant fascists, and everything in between. I have met enough painfully stupid liberals and painfully stupid conservatives that I don't think either side are in too great a position to start claiming a monopoly on smarts.

Isn't claiming 'liberalism is a mental illness' the kind of Catch 22 comment that only an intellectual dwarf could assume?

Or is there a reason that some conservatives believe they are intellectually superior?

Oh shut up, go read ANY RDean thread, as one example, and you will see a liberal claiming conservatives are stupid.

And guess what? Both views are wrong. There are smart and dumb liberals and smart and dumb conservatives.

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

Wow! That's really groundbreaking theory you have there.

The OP was clear. The are differing degrees of this trait here.

Most of you guys like to bring up RDean all the time. Well....he's not stupid. He's just weird and has no filter. Whether or not he calls others stupid I couldn't tell you. I never read his shit any more.

Now....you have BigDerp in this thread calling every Obama supporter stupid. There are only a handful of USMB members who are less intelligent than BigDerp. Him calling most anyone besides Staph, Mud or Steve McRacist stupid is a huge pile of shit.

Tell him as much.

While there are exceptions... the average Democrat is dumber than a bag of Hammers.

If this were a real time discussion, I'd launch into asking ANY of the in-house comrades BASIC questions regarding civics, business, US and world history, science and you'd find that very few if ANY of the contributors who advocate through Left-think would be able to correctly answer any of them, while most Americans would have no trouble answering most... .

Go for it pea brain...you have a liberal right here ready to hammer you...

I'll be waiting....

 

[thereisnospoon]

nothing will ever be worse than a dumb ass obama supporter. even the creators of obamacare think yall are stupid.

That's ok, I don't expect a Bush voter to know they are even dumber than the dumbest Obama voter. That's testament to how ignorant Bush voters are.

pull your back in place with that spin, you're an imbecile you support a lie and fail policies of obama. that's the plain simple fact.

Spits a Bush voter.

What's so funny? shouldn't you be pissed because the creators of obamacare called you stupid for supporting what they created?
You are so fucking stupid you can't grasp the insult of what was said about you.

Who knows what you're rambling about now, Bush voter? I didn't vote for Obama because of healthcare. I voted for him due to the likelihood that the president elected in 2008 would be the one nominating a Supreme Court justice. And Obama exceeded my expectations by nominating not one, but two Liberal justices.

You had no way of knowing the two justices would be off the bench during the '08 campaign. That means you are either not in the correct occupation( you should be making millions as an oddsmaker picking NFL and College football games) or you are plain full of shit.
You voted for Obama because you are like him a lefty socialist.

 

[kiwiman127]

I have often wondered is gullibility the sign of low intelligence or psychological issues. Who knows, but I did I did find this article interesting.
Do Racism, Conservatism, and Low I.Q. Go Hand in Hand?
Do Racism Conservatism and Low I.Q. Go Hand in Hand Psychology Today

 

[thereisnospoon]

Conservatives give just as much to charities as Liberals do.
They do not hate the poor
We pay into those programs for years before we receive them.

Oh, so terms like 'moochers' is meant to be endearing...

I myself would never use that word.
People that can work for a living but take government assistance programs.
Why should they when the can get more in assistance than working in a low paying job?
Would most work at a job that pays 12,000.00 a year or get government assistance that pays 32,000.00 a year?

We found who the 47% Romney trashed really are...

America's safety net is below almost every other industrialized country in every measure. America more closely resembles the likes of Mexico than a modern First World industrialized nation.

We heard the ignorant rant of Mitt Romney and his 47%...

If there is a citizenry on this planet that does NOT have an entitlement mentality, it is the American people. American workers receive less benefits, paid leave, health care and take less vacation time than any other people. American workers take pride in the quality of their work and their work ethic.

What Romney said is a gross insult and reveals a dangerous mindset. He reeks of contempt for middle class working people and the poor.

Who are the 47%?

Federal budget and Census data show that, in 2010, 91 percent of the benefit dollars from entitlement and other mandatory programs went to the elderly (people 65 and over), the seriously disabled, and members of working households. People who are neither elderly nor disabled — and do not live in a working household — received only 9 percent of the benefits.

Moreover, the vast bulk of that 9 percent goes for medical care, unemployment insurance benefits (which individuals must have a significant work history to receive), Social Security survivor benefits for the children and spouses of deceased workers, and Social Security benefits for retirees between ages 62 and 64. Seven out of the 9 percentage points go for one of these four purposes.

80 percent of the workforce has seen their wages decline in real terms over the last quarter-century, and the average household has seen 40 percent of its wealth disappear during the Great Recession. Through it all, families never asked for a handout from anyone, especially Washington. They were left to go on their own, working harder, squeezing nickels, and taking care of themselves. But their economic boats have been taking on water for years, and now the crisis has swamped millions of middle class families. ref ref

"Labor is the United States. The men and women, who with their minds, their hearts and hands, create the wealth that is shared in this country—they are America."
President Dwight D. Eisenhower

Maybe you should look at the latest polls to find out about the work ethic in the US.

"Nearly four in 10 Americans, or 92 million, are not in the labor force and now there’s a reason why: They have simply given up and don’t want to work.

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the largest group of people not in the labor force are those who don’t want a job, a remarkable statement on the nation’s work ethic. The federal job counter said that 85.9 million adults last month didn’t want a job, or 93 percent of all adults not in the labor force.

APew Research Center analysisout Friday dug a bit deeper to find out who those people are. Many are younger Americans who seem far less interested it landing a job than previous generations, possibly discouraged by the lack of good-paying jobs.

“Women are more likely than men to say they don’t want a job, although the gap has been narrowing — especially since the Great Recession. Last month, 28.5 percent of men said they didn’t want a job, up from 23.9 percent in October 2000 and 25.2 percent in October 2008. For women, the share saying they didn’t want a job hovered around 38 percent throughout the 2000s but began creeping up in 2010, reaching 40.2 percent last month,” said the Pew analysis."

Giving up 40 women 28 men 39 youth don t want a job WashingtonExaminer.com

So? Some 86 million don't want to work. So what? As a percentage of the population, that's not much higher than before Obama became president. And given we're in the age of baby boomers hitting retirement age, where roughly three times as many seniors are retiring than before 2008, that's not exactly a surprise.

What data do you have that proves those who have left the workforce no longer wish to work?

 

[thereisnospoon]

Did you see the resent video on the news with those women who had a hissy fit because they got there too late to get their egg Mcmuffin?

There you go...forget the FACTS, anecdotal evidence is all you need to reinforce your dogma...

A vast amount of people in this country has the attitude of give me, give me, give and I want it and I want it now.
An entitlement mentality is a state of mind in which an individual comes to believe that privileges are instead rights.
Lack of personal responsibility. Just as those with an entitlement mentality typically expect others to solve their problems, they also refuse to accept that the problems are of their own making.
Just like the women at McDonalds.
They arrived late after the breakfast served under the hours of......... and expected to still be able to order from the breakfast menu. It was their own fault for not getting there on time.

AGAIN...double down on your anecdotal evidence that supports your dogma...you CAN'T be wrong...

"Entitlement mentality" is a manufactured term used by the people who have brainwashed you...

The term "entitlement" originally referred to aristocrats. Aristocrats had titles, and they thought that they were thereby entitled to various things, particularly the deference of the common people. Everyone else, by contrast, was dependent on the aristocrats. This is conservatism. Yet in the 1990's, conservative rhetors decided that the people who actually claim entitlement are people on welfare. They furthermore created an empirically false association between welfare and dependency. But, as I have mentioned, welfare is precisely a way of eliminating dependency on the aristocracy and the cultural authorities that serve it. I do not recall anyone ever noting this inversion of meaning.

Oh Brother !
Talk about brainwashed

I see your indoctrination is complete. Even the icon of the right, F.A Hayek would dismiss today's social Darwinist conservatives.

"There is no reason why, in a society which has reached the general level of wealth ours has, (the certainty of a given minimum of sustenance) should not be guaranteed to all without endangering general freedom; that is: some minimum of food, shelter and clothing, sufficient to preserve health. Nor is there any reason why the state should not help to organize a comprehensive system of social insurance in providing for those common hazards of life against which few can make adequate provision."
Friedrich August von Hayek-The Road to Serfdom

"Conservatism, though a necessary element in any stable society, is not a social program; in its paternalistic, nationalistic and power adoring tendencies it is often closer to socialism than true liberalism; and with its traditionalistic, anti-intellectual, and often mystical propensities it will never, except in short periods of disillusionment, appeal to the young and all those others who believe that some changes are desirable if this world is to become a better place."
Friedrich August von Hayek-The Road to Serfdom

"In general, it can probably be said that the conservative does not object to coercion or arbitrary power so long as it is used for what he regards as the right purposes. He believes that if government is in the hands of decent men, it ought not to be too much restricted by rigid rules. Since he is essentially opportunist and lacks principles..."
Friedrich August von Hayek-Why I am Not a Conservative

Nor is there any reason why the state should not help to organize a comprehensive system of social insurance in providing for those common hazards of life against which few can make adequate provision."
I agree with this 100%.
The problem we have is our system of social safety nets has mushroomed into a multi trillion dollar hodgepodge of programs for every conceivable condition, syndrome, possibility etc. The fact that almost HALF the US population receives at least some form of public assistance should shame anyone who supports this system of making poverty comfortable into having to hide their face in public.
But no...You people insist it is never enough. Tax more. Tax at a higher rate you say.
None of which is going to m ake anyone less poor or raise them out of poverty.
What these taxpayer funded giveaways accomplish is twofold. One, it creates more opportunity to grow the size of government
Two, provides an endlessly growing source of votes for those who use their positions of power to make sure the goodies are always there.
Social giveaways ( entitlements) have always been about acquiring and retention of political power for democrats.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Every day on this board we seem to have threads about 'how stupid are libs?', 'dimbocrats', 'typical liberal stupidity'....you know the drill.

The strange thing is, I don't see a lot of posts claiming the opposite. Some comments, sure, but I think most people will agree that there are far, far more posts labelling liberalism as being in some way stupid, a mental illness etc than there are posts about conservatism claiming the same superiority.

I don't get this at all - I see no link between political views and intelligence. I've met some brilliant socialists, a couple of brilliant fascists, and everything in between. I have met enough painfully stupid liberals and painfully stupid conservatives that I don't think either side are in too great a position to start claiming a monopoly on smarts.

Isn't claiming 'liberalism is a mental illness' the kind of Catch 22 comment that only an intellectual dwarf could assume?

Or is there a reason that some conservatives believe they are intellectually superior?

Oh shut up, go read ANY RDean thread, as one example, and you will see a liberal claiming conservatives are stupid.

And guess what? Both views are wrong. There are smart and dumb liberals and smart and dumb conservatives.

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

Wow! That's really groundbreaking theory you have there.

The OP was clear. The are differing degrees of this trait here.

Most of you guys like to bring up RDean all the time. Well....he's not stupid. He's just weird and has no filter. Whether or not he calls others stupid I couldn't tell you. I never read his shit any more.

Now....you have BigDerp in this thread calling every Obama supporter stupid. There are only a handful of USMB members who are less intelligent than BigDerp. Him calling most anyone besides Staph, Mud or Steve McRacist stupid is a huge pile of shit.

Tell him as much.

While there are exceptions... the average Democrat is dumber than a bag of Hammers.

If this were a real time discussion, I'd launch into asking ANY of the in-house comrades BASIC questions regarding civics, business, US and world history, science and you'd find that very few if ANY of the contributors who advocate through Left-think would be able to correctly answer any of them, while most Americans would have no trouble answering most... .

Go for it pea brain...you have a liberal right here ready to hammer you...

I'll be waiting....

LOL! You just couldn't help yourself could ya scout?

You've already failed... . Ya see, 'this' discussion isn't real time. Knowing how to run a search engine doesn't qualify as 'intelligence'.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Every day on this board we seem to have threads about 'how stupid are libs?', 'dimbocrats', 'typical liberal stupidity'....you know the drill.

The strange thing is, I don't see a lot of posts claiming the opposite. Some comments, sure, but I think most people will agree that there are far, far more posts labelling liberalism as being in some way stupid, a mental illness etc than there are posts about conservatism claiming the same superiority.

I don't get this at all - I see no link between political views and intelligence. I've met some brilliant socialists, a couple of brilliant fascists, and everything in between. I have met enough painfully stupid liberals and painfully stupid conservatives that I don't think either side are in too great a position to start claiming a monopoly on smarts.

Isn't claiming 'liberalism is a mental illness' the kind of Catch 22 comment that only an intellectual dwarf could assume?

Or is there a reason that some conservatives believe they are intellectually superior?

Oh shut up, go read ANY RDean thread, as one example, and you will see a liberal claiming conservatives are stupid.

And guess what? Both views are wrong. There are smart and dumb liberals and smart and dumb conservatives.

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

Wow! That's really groundbreaking theory you have there.

The OP was clear. The are differing degrees of this trait here.

Most of you guys like to bring up RDean all the time. Well....he's not stupid. He's just weird and has no filter. Whether or not he calls others stupid I couldn't tell you. I never read his shit any more.

Now....you have BigDerp in this thread calling every Obama supporter stupid. There are only a handful of USMB members who are less intelligent than BigDerp. Him calling most anyone besides Staph, Mud or Steve McRacist stupid is a huge pile of shit.

Tell him as much.

While there are exceptions... the average Democrat is dumber than a bag of Hammers.

If this were a real time discussion, I'd launch into asking ANY of the in-house comrades BASIC questions regarding civics, business, US and world history, science and you'd find that very few if ANY of the contributors who advocate through Left-think would be able to correctly answer any of them, while most Americans would have no trouble answering most... .

Go for it pea brain...you have a liberal right here ready to hammer you...

I'll be waiting....

LOL! You just couldn't help yourself could ya scout?

You've already failed... . Ya see, 'this' discussion isn't real time. Knowing how to run a search engine doesn't qualify as 'intelligence'.

Walking back the claim already, huh? Nice.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Every day on this board we seem to have threads about 'how stupid are libs?', 'dimbocrats', 'typical liberal stupidity'....you know the drill.

The strange thing is, I don't see a lot of posts claiming the opposite. Some comments, sure, but I think most people will agree that there are far, far more posts labelling liberalism as being in some way stupid, a mental illness etc than there are posts about conservatism claiming the same superiority.

I don't get this at all - I see no link between political views and intelligence. I've met some brilliant socialists, a couple of brilliant fascists, and everything in between. I have met enough painfully stupid liberals and painfully stupid conservatives that I don't think either side are in too great a position to start claiming a monopoly on smarts.

Isn't claiming 'liberalism is a mental illness' the kind of Catch 22 comment that only an intellectual dwarf could assume?

Or is there a reason that some conservatives believe they are intellectually superior?

Oh shut up, go read ANY RDean thread, as one example, and you will see a liberal claiming conservatives are stupid.

And guess what? Both views are wrong. There are smart and dumb liberals and smart and dumb conservatives.

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

Wow! That's really groundbreaking theory you have there.

The OP was clear. The are differing degrees of this trait here.

Most of you guys like to bring up RDean all the time. Well....he's not stupid. He's just weird and has no filter. Whether or not he calls others stupid I couldn't tell you. I never read his shit any more.

Now....you have BigDerp in this thread calling every Obama supporter stupid. There are only a handful of USMB members who are less intelligent than BigDerp. Him calling most anyone besides Staph, Mud or Steve McRacist stupid is a huge pile of shit.

Tell him as much.

While there are exceptions... the average Democrat is dumber than a bag of Hammers.

If this were a real time discussion, I'd launch into asking ANY of the in-house comrades BASIC questions regarding civics, business, US and world history, science and you'd find that very few if ANY of the contributors who advocate through Left-think would be able to correctly answer any of them, while most Americans would have no trouble answering most... .

Go for it pea brain...you have a liberal right here ready to hammer you...

I'll be waiting....

Only if you promise not to look up the answers to the questions.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Oh shut up, go read ANY RDean thread, as one example, and you will see a liberal claiming conservatives are stupid.

And guess what? Both views are wrong. There are smart and dumb liberals and smart and dumb conservatives.

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

Wow! That's really groundbreaking theory you have there.

The OP was clear. The are differing degrees of this trait here.

Most of you guys like to bring up RDean all the time. Well....he's not stupid. He's just weird and has no filter. Whether or not he calls others stupid I couldn't tell you. I never read his shit any more.

Now....you have BigDerp in this thread calling every Obama supporter stupid. There are only a handful of USMB members who are less intelligent than BigDerp. Him calling most anyone besides Staph, Mud or Steve McRacist stupid is a huge pile of shit.

Tell him as much.

While there are exceptions... the average Democrat is dumber than a bag of Hammers.

If this were a real time discussion, I'd launch into asking ANY of the in-house comrades BASIC questions regarding civics, business, US and world history, science and you'd find that very few if ANY of the contributors who advocate through Left-think would be able to correctly answer any of them, while most Americans would have no trouble answering most... .

Go for it pea brain...you have a liberal right here ready to hammer you...

I'll be waiting....

LOL! You just couldn't help yourself could ya scout?

You've already failed... . Ya see, 'this' discussion isn't real time. Knowing how to run a search engine doesn't qualify as 'intelligence'.

Walking back the claim already, huh? Nice.

No....Bigfrn would simply use Google to find the answers.
If you cannot handle that, tough shit.