Blues Man
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That's because you don't have a perception of God beyond magical fairytales, bro. So of course you don't believe belief in God is logical. I wouldn't believe in God either if I had your perception of God.There are logical reasons the sequence is God, country and family.Our first allegiance is to ourselves then our families. the country is a bit further down on the list for meAre religions that preach inequality for women and gays, traitors to their country?
Our first allegiance is to our countries.
Our laws and political leanings are moving us towards laïcité, a rather rigid form of the best religious freedoms/ideology, quirky or not, for all. Keep it to yourself will be the order of the day. Happy days. All within a Western style of freedom seeking governance.
Should our backwards thinking mainstream religions be asked to be more representative of good law?
Negative discrimination without a just cause is what Yahweh admits to doing in Job 2;3., when he allowed Satan to move him to sin against Job.
Christians should admit their sin and stop preaching that it is a good to be homophobic and misogynous, contradicting the law of the land.
Regards
DL
I don't think a belief is gods is logical.
Interesting,
Do I have to believe before my perception changes or do I believe after I see something that changes my perception?
If you are to believe the scriptures, you have to wait for god to either give or deny you the grace to believe.
Check out the quotes in what follows. They are accurate as Christians never want to talk about them.
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Are non-believers doomed by Divine Design?
Scriptures say that God decides if a person will be a believer or non-believer. Those scriptures are shown in this link.
Those quotes seems to really screw up the free will notion that Christians say God gives us.
The free will that God offers is kind of a joke anyway given the number of people whose free will to live is ignored in the billions of adults, children and babies that God is shown to torture and murder in scriptures.
If the bible and Yahweh are to be believed, and as a non-believer, I, of course, cannot believe it, thanks to God, by God’s design and will against me, then why did God deny me belief or faith?
Even more important to believers, might be to answer the question of; did God make you a believer in things that you can only hope exists and can never confirm?
Are you happy with God ignoring or negating your free will to think as you please?
I have assumed that God’s work of creating both believers and non-believers is working. If that is so, and you believers must think it so, just as I as a non-believer cannot think it is working, --- and Jesus said that those with faith could do all he did and more, --- then there is not even one believer or person of faith that has ever existed.
Either the bible and Christianity is all a lie, or there must be some who can do what Jesus did.
What is your choice of those two options?
Is the bible and Christianity a lie, or is God just not creating any people with faith, --- which would make all Christians who say they have faith, --- liars.
I mean no insult here but someone is definitely lying, if we read what is written and look at reality and listen to Christians.
What do you think is the truth?
Is it just for God to create people doomed to hell even if they wanted to believe?
Regards
DL
So doesn't that violate the free will that was supposedly given to man by his creator?
And if it is the creator that decides who is going to believe or not then isn't he damning those people he decides don't believe just because he feels like it?
Religion is a complex social construct and religions have evolved and changed and much of those changes can be very closely correlated to the evolution of our intelligence.
We used to believe in many gods but as we came to understand the world we discarded many gods. Now most religions are monotheistic they concern themselves with the big questions to which we do not have definitive answers.
How did the universe come to be and what happens after we die ?