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Are there any liberal still worried about global warming?

EdwardBaiamonte

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Matt Ridley in the WSJ: Whatever Happened to Global Warming?
Anthony Watts / 3 days ago September 5, 2014
Now come climate scientistsā€™ implausible explanations for why the ā€˜hiatusā€™ has passed the 15-year mark.By MATT RIDLEY


Sept. 4, 2014 7:20 p.m. ET THE WALL STREET JOURNAL

On Sept. 23 the United Nations will host a party for world leaders in New York to pledge urgent action against climate change. Yet leaders from China, India and Germany have already announced that they wonā€™t attend the summit and others are likely to follow, leaving President Obama looking a bit lonely. Could it be that they no longer regard it as an urgent threat that some time later in this century the air may get a bit warmer?

In effect, this is all thatā€™s left of the global-warming emergency the U.N. declared in its first report on the subject in 1990. The U.N. no longer claims that there will be dangerous or rapid climate change in the next two decades. Last September, between the second and final draft of its fifth assessment report, the U.N.ā€™s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change quietly downgraded the warming it expected in the 30 years following 1995, to about 0.5 degrees Celsius from 0.7 (or, in Fahrenheit, to about 0.9 degrees, from 1.3).

Even that is likely to be too high. The climate-research establishment has finally admitted openly what skeptic scientists have been saying for nearly a decade: Global warming has stopped since shortly before this century began.

First the climate-research establishment denied that a pause existed, noting that if there was a pause, it would invalidate their theories. Now they say there is a pause (or ā€œhiatusā€), but that it doesnā€™t after all invalidate their theories.

Alas, their explanations have made their predicament worse by implying that man-made climate change is so slow and tentative that it can be easily overwhelmed by natural variation in temperatureā€”a possibility that they had previously all but ruled out.

When the climate scientist and geologist Bob Carter of James Cook University in Australia wrote an article in 2006 saying that there had been no global warming since 1998 according to the most widely used measure of average global air temperatures, there was an outcry. A year later, when David Whitehouse of the Global Warming Policy Foundation in London made the same point, the environmentalist and journalist Mark Lynas said in the New Statesman that Mr. Whitehouse was ā€œwrong, completely wrong,ā€ and was ā€œdeliberately, or otherwise, misleading the public.ā€


We know now that it was Mr. Lynas who was wrong. Two years before Mr. Whitehouseā€™s article, climate scientists were already admitting in emails among themselves that there had been no warming since the late 1990s. ā€œThe scientific community would come down on me in no uncertain terms if I said the world had cooled from 1998,ā€ wrote Phil Jones of the University of East Anglia in Britain in 2005. He went on: ā€œOkay it has but it is only seven years of data and it isnā€™t statistically significant.ā€

If the pause lasted 15 years, they conceded, then it would be so significant that it would invalidate the climate-change models upon which policy was being built. A report from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) written in 2008 made this clear: ā€œThe simulations rule out (at the 95% level) zero trends for intervals of 15 yr or more.ā€

Well, the pause has now lasted for 16, 19 or 26 yearsā€”depending on whether you choose the surface temperature record or one of two satellite records of the lower atmosphere. Thatā€™s according to a new statisticalcalculation by Ross McKitrick, a professor of economics at the University of Guelph in Canada.

It has been roughly two decades since there was a trend in temperature significantly different from zero. The burst of warming that preceded the millennium lasted about 20 years and was preceded by 30 years of slight cooling after 1940.

This has taken me by surprise. I was among those who thought the pause was a blip. As a ā€œlukewarmer,ā€ Iā€™ve long thought that man-made carbon-dioxide emissions will raise global temperatures, but that this effect will not be amplified much by feedbacks from extra water vapor and clouds, so the world will probably be only a bit more than one degree Celsius warmer in 2100 than today. By contrast, the assumption built into the average climate model is that water-vapor feedback will treble the effect of carbon dioxide.

But now I worry that I am exaggerating, rather than underplaying, the likely warming.

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When it's too warm it's global warming.
When it's too cold it's climate change.
When it's mild it's proof that somethings wrong.
When it seems like nothing is going on...This "pause" is just more proof that the Libs were right.
 
Bummer, I was actually kind of hoping we could get a little global warming up here (in Alaska.) Ah well, we replaced all the old insulation, put on Tyvek, and replaced all the windows/doors with that low E double pane stuff, so I suppose we might as well use it.
 
Scientists Now 99.999% Sure Humans Are Causing Climate Change


Iol, a little to late for that bullshit.


Only too late if you can explain what happens the energy that rising CO2 traps. PUT UP OR SHUT UP. :eusa_whistle:



Lol. It is incumbent on the person who makes claims to back them up. Since "science" is wrong about global warming, as shown by the evidence, it might also mean that there is no energy being trapped as suggested since if it were, it would indeed cause warming.

Mark
 
Scientists Now 99.999% Sure Humans Are Causing Climate Change


Iol, a little to late for that bullshit.


Only too late if you can explain what happens the energy that rising CO2 traps. PUT UP OR SHUT UP. :eusa_whistle:

Ever hear of a thing called photosynthesis?


Photosynthesis drops off rapidly as wavelengths approach the infrared range. NEXT!

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The spectrum
 
Scientists Now 99.999% Sure Humans Are Causing Climate Change


Iol, a little to late for that bullshit.


Only too late if you can explain what happens the energy that rising CO2 traps. PUT UP OR SHUT UP. :eusa_whistle:

Gore's prediction about the ice caps didn't happen. So go find something else to be concerned with. Hey there is a hate Ben Carson thread going on.


This has nothing to do with Gore. It's about what happens to the energy that CO2 absorbs. Try answering that instead of distracting us with irrelevancies. People that know the topic discuss it. Those that don't, talk about Gore.
 
Scientists Now 99.999% Sure Humans Are Causing Climate Change


Iol, a little to late for that bullshit.


Only too late if you can explain what happens the energy that rising CO2 traps. PUT UP OR SHUT UP. :eusa_whistle:



Lol. It is incumbent on the person who makes claims to back them up. Since "science" is wrong about global warming, as shown by the evidence, it might also mean that there is no energy being trapped as suggested since if it were, it would indeed cause warming.


It's a well known fact and easily shown with a basic lab spectrophotometer that CO2 absorbs in the IR range, ergo you just admitted that CO2 does cause warming. :clap2:
 
I hope humans cause it. It's been a great summer here in the Northwest, and I like to think that I had something to do with it. :beer:
 

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