Are you an ally of peace, civility and reason in politics, or are you an opponent?

[Oddball]

If people are such - and I believe that the are to a great extent, then there's no good reason for a $4 trillion federal gubmint, its massive welfare state, its endless foreign wars, its brutish police state, its massive regulatory protection rackets, its tyrannical judicial oligarchy, and so forth.

Yet just try to just trim back that unwieldly leviathan at its margins, and watch yourself being accused of being the worst person in the world.

I agree, but I also believe that many with your opinion would shoot a very similar vitriol right back at the opposition.

ORLY?....Most, if not all, people with my opinion want nothing more than to be left the hell alone.

 

[BS Filter]

I'm sick of these Democrats that keep pushing these queers and muslims on us to accept as normal. I reject being governed by them. That's my right.

 

[Confounding]

ORLY?....Most, if not all, people with my opinion want nothing more than to be left the hell alone.

Do people with your opinion ever contribute unconstructively on this forum?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Those who propagate the lie that Ukraine interfered in the 2016 General Election are clearly opponents of peace, civility, and reason in politics.

 

[westwall]

I want socialism destroyed, and I will never apologize for that. Capitalism is the best.

No, the best is a system of capitalist, and socialist policies working together in balance.

The problems arise when either system gains too much dominance.

Problem being is that the socialists will never be satisfied with their lot, and will constantly work to expand their avaricious grasp.....And if you oppose them it's not because of any principled stance, it's because you have a character flaw that they are above, and as such you need their view imposed upon you by force.

In the end, there is no dealing with such intellectually dishonest and fundamentally violent people.

That is equally true of the opposite side of the ledger. Capitalists can be every bit as evil as their socialist counterparts.

 

[Gdjjr]

If they're supportive of queers and muslims they need to go.

If? LOL

 

[Oddball]

ORLY?....Most, if not all, people with my opinion want nothing more than to be left the hell alone.

Do people with your opinion ever contribute unconstructively on this forum?

WTF does that have to do with anything?

 

[Gdjjr]

Capitalists can be every bit as evil as their socialist counterparts.

True. But, capitalist are willing to pay for it- socialist want it to be forced by law- like *our* crony capitalist society does.

 

[Oddball]

I want socialism destroyed, and I will never apologize for that. Capitalism is the best.

No, the best is a system of capitalist, and socialist policies working together in balance.

The problems arise when either system gains too much dominance.

Problem being is that the socialists will never be satisfied with their lot, and will constantly work to expand their avaricious grasp.....And if you oppose them it's not because of any principled stance, it's because you have a character flaw that they are above, and as such you need their view imposed upon you by force.

In the end, there is no dealing with such intellectually dishonest and fundamentally violent people.

That is equally true of the opposite side of the ledger. Capitalists can be every bit as evil as their socialist counterparts.

The capitalist can't legally stick a gun in my face and demand that I buy their product.

 

[westwall]

I want socialism destroyed, and I will never apologize for that. Capitalism is the best.

No, the best is a system of capitalist, and socialist policies working together in balance.

The problems arise when either system gains too much dominance.

Problem being is that the socialists will never be satisfied with their lot, and will constantly work to expand their avaricious grasp.....And if you oppose them it's not because of any principled stance, it's because you have a character flaw that they are above, and as such you need their view imposed upon you by force.

In the end, there is no dealing with such intellectually dishonest and fundamentally violent people.

That is equally true of the opposite side of the ledger. Capitalists can be every bit as evil as their socialist counterparts.

The capitalist can't stick a gun in my face and demand that I buy their product.

True, to a point. They have other ways of control though.

 

[Oddball]

I want socialism destroyed, and I will never apologize for that. Capitalism is the best.

No, the best is a system of capitalist, and socialist policies working together in balance.

The problems arise when either system gains too much dominance.

Problem being is that the socialists will never be satisfied with their lot, and will constantly work to expand their avaricious grasp.....And if you oppose them it's not because of any principled stance, it's because you have a character flaw that they are above, and as such you need their view imposed upon you by force.

In the end, there is no dealing with such intellectually dishonest and fundamentally violent people.

That is equally true of the opposite side of the ledger. Capitalists can be every bit as evil as their socialist counterparts.

The capitalist can't stick a gun in my face and demand that I buy their product.

True, to a point. They have other ways of control though.

Yeah, like bribing the people who can legally stick a gun in my face and force me to buy their product.....Those asswipes aren't capitalists, properly defined.

 

[healthmyths]

Perhaps the FCC needs to be strengthened. It can begin by mandating that news stations promote news first. The constant slants and pushing of propaganda has divided us. TV programs on networks also are doing the same. Cable TV needs to be depowered a bit and customers must be allowed to choose their own stations.

Facts to support your contention.
The Top 50 Liberal Media Bias Examples
The Top 50 Liberal Media Bias Examples

 

[flewism]

I remember then politics were argued in person without all the BS of the media and internet forums. Physical threats and name calling were rare in person and elections were not contested verbally was the are today.

 

[Confounding]

I want socialism destroyed, and I will never apologize for that. Capitalism is the best.

No, the best is a system of capitalist, and socialist policies working together in balance.

The problems arise when either system gains too much dominance.

Problem being is that the socialists will never be satisfied with their lot, and will constantly work to expand their avaricious grasp.....And if you oppose them it's not because of any principled stance, it's because you have a character flaw that they are above, and as such you need their view imposed upon you by force.

In the end, there is no dealing with such intellectually dishonest and fundamentally violent people.

That is equally true of the opposite side of the ledger. Capitalists can be every bit as evil as their socialist counterparts.

The capitalist can't stick a gun in my face and demand that I buy their product.

True, to a point. They have other ways of control though.

Who the hell are you and what have you done with Westwall?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

All reason ends when one is a partisan. Partisans are tribal in nature and instead of forming opinions based upon their own value systems, they simply conform to the groupthink of their tribe.

How can there be any civility with so many who are simply preprogrammed warriors out to do battle?

 

[impuretrash]

All reason ends when one is a partisan. Partisans are tribal in nature and instead of forming opinions based upon their own value systems, they simply conform to the groupthink of their tribe.

How can there be any civility with so many who are simply preprogrammed warriors out to do battle?

There is a lot of resistance from people who hold actual conservative beliefs towards mainstream GOP conservative Inc and their pro-gay, pro-immigration agenda. Don't see much dissent among the democrats.

 

[ABikerSailor]

You know, over my 20 years in the Navy, I noticed something about the various commands I was at......................good leadership is key in having a healthy, functioning command. If the leadership at the top sucks, it will trickle down the chain of command and infect the whole crew.

Matter of fact, I saw how that worked on my first command. When I got there, the CO was an excellent leader, and the things he did made crew morale soar. One of the things he did was whenever we had carrier hits (resupply underway replenishment for a carrier), he would spend a couple of hours in coveralls, working alongside the crew. Granted, that doesn't sound like a big deal, but when the crew knew the CO was willing to work along with them, they were willing to work as hard as was required. His directives were clear and understandable, and everyone knew exactly where they fit in.

The CO that followed was a soup sandwich. He required everyone on the bridge to be in 4.0 inspection ready uniforms (especially during UNREP, as sometimes there would be representatives from the other command), even though he would sit in his captain's chair with his shirt off and pants rolled up, sunning himself. And, directives were never clear, he didn't enforce discipline in any logical form, and the command suffered.

The only way we are going to be able to get back to being civilized with each other is if our leaders would quit using inflammatory language and start talking to each other. Why? Because people usually follow the examples set by those who lead them. In order to get this nation united again, we have to get leaders that are interested in leading the whole country, and not just their base.

 

[Confounding]

Don't see much dissent among the democrats.

Then you're not looking. Shit got vicious between Bernie supporters and Hillary supporters. You may not see the difference, but people on the left do, and they went to war over it. Wounds have still not healed. It's why Trump won in my opinion. True populists are fighting with mainstream status quo shills on both sides.

 

[impuretrash]

Don't see much dissent among the democrats.

Then you're not looking. Shit got vicious between Bernie supporters and Hillary supporters. You may not see the difference, but people on the left do, and they went to war over it. Wounds have still not healed. It's why Trump won in my opinion. True populists are fighting with mainstream status quo shills on both sides.

Bernie bro "populism" is the status quo. The beef between his supporters and Clinton's was about political strategy, not political ideology.

 

[BlindBoo]

It can begin by mandating that news stations promote news first.

Who gets to decide what is news? Should there be an official news and should there be a punishment for unofficial news?

customers must be allowed to choose their own stations.

I have hundred of stations to watched and an eclectic source of news across the web.

I don't think more regulation is the answer.