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My brother did 8 years in the state pen and he always claimed he was at least mostly innocent.What I saw would be shocking. I was defending pro-life demonstrators who were given a ticket for trespassing.
The cop lied about what happened, and in the court his son was watching to watch his father commit perjury.
The D.A. would not release a copy of the video our defendant took.
That's an ethical violation. All evidence showing the defendant might be innocent must be release. But the D.A. didn't.
Fortunately for our side, the demonstrator who was taking the video switched it out before the cops grabbed it.
We used it as surprise evidence, and demonstrated to the court that our clients were not guilty of trespassing.
The female D.A. was literally in tears. She told all her other cop witnesses to clear out before we could catch them.
That experience proved to me that our criminal justice system is corrupt. DA's can do anything they want, and no one will ever call them for it.
Thank you for posting this.I was sitting in court one day with some people from the Public Defender's office. I has asked them if I could volunteer.
While I was sitting there, a black man was the defendant at a preliminary hearing to determine if there was probable cause to prosecute him for shoplifting.
What this guy did was he grabbed two armfuls of hair conditioner and walk out of the store. An elderly security guard tried to get in his way, so the defendant pushed past him.
After the testimony of the security guard, the judge ordered that this black man be prosecuted for shoplifting, assault and battery committed against an elderly person.
The defense attorneys did nothing to help this black man. They just sat there and watched it happen.
They told me that some stores deliberately hire elderly security guards so they can get that enhancement of the assault charge.
Had this man been white, the story would have a much different ending. If he was a first offender, he would hae the charges dismissed in return for community service. He would not have a public defender, he would have an expensive private attorney representing him. His family would have put up the money to pay the attorney, borrowing if they had to, or putting a mortgage on their home.
And my guess is the assault and battery charge would have dismissed, because all he did is brush by him.
I am not a liberal, but I'm willing to admit this. People in the criminal system consider all blacks and Hispanics to be potential criminals, so they might as well get them in prison as soon as possible.
I was sitting in court one day with some people from the Public Defender's office. I has asked them if I could volunteer.
While I was sitting there, a black man was the defendant at a preliminary hearing to determine if there was probable cause to prosecute him for shoplifting.
What this guy did was he grabbed two armfuls of hair conditioner and walk out of the store. An elderly security guard tried to get in his way, so the defendant pushed past him.
After the testimony of the security guard, the judge ordered that this black man be prosecuted for shoplifting, assault and battery committed against an elderly person.
The defense attorneys did nothing to help this black man. They just sat there and watched it happen.
They told me that some stores deliberately hire elderly security guards so they can get that enhancement of the assault charge.
Had this man been white, the story would have a much different ending. If he was a first offender, he would hae the charges dismissed in return for community service. He would not have a public defender, he would have an expensive private attorney representing him. His family would have put up the money to pay the attorney, borrowing if they had to, or putting a mortgage on their home.
And my guess is the assault and battery charge would have dismissed, because all he did is brush by him.
I am not a liberal, but I'm willing to admit this. People in the criminal system consider all blacks and Hispanics to be potential criminals, so they might as well get them in prison as soon as possible.
Nowhere near as often as it happens to Blacks and Mexicans.My brother did 8 years in the state pen and he always claimed he was at least mostly innocent.What I saw would be shocking. I was defending pro-life demonstrators who were given a ticket for trespassing.
The cop lied about what happened, and in the court his son was watching to watch his father commit perjury.
The D.A. would not release a copy of the video our defendant took.
That's an ethical violation. All evidence showing the defendant might be innocent must be release. But the D.A. didn't.
Fortunately for our side, the demonstrator who was taking the video switched it out before the cops grabbed it.
We used it as surprise evidence, and demonstrated to the court that our clients were not guilty of trespassing.
The female D.A. was literally in tears. She told all her other cop witnesses to clear out before we could catch them.
That experience proved to me that our criminal justice system is corrupt. DA's can do anything they want, and no one will ever call them for it.
Prisons are full of innocent people.
BTW, the lawyer that prosecuted him was trying to run for office.....so....there you go.
This sort of thing happens to nonblacks all of the time.
i am working on the concept of exculpatory circumstances. i hope to present it in the near future.What I'm saying is our criminal system is broken. We have more people in prison than Communist China, which has a population three times as large. Putting a man in prison takes away his ability to support his family, leaving the equivalent of a widow and orphans, who are then forced to apply for welfare.
while i agree with you as a matter of "weights and measures"; there is still plenty of color to the perception of being denied and disparaged in our privileges and immunities due merely to wealth under our form of Capitalism.With all due respect...the most important thing that a judge looks at isn't skin color...it's a person's criminal history laid out on the desk in front of him or her. If you sit in a court of law and watch how the process works it becomes readily apparent that for a whole lot of people...this isn't their first encounter in court and quite often not their first interaction with a particular judge.
When you see a judge drop the hammer on a defendant? Chances are that's happening because the person has a list of priors that could pass for a short novel or because the person was in front of that judge before and was let off easy. You do NOT want to go back in front of a judge that cut you slack before and warned you to get your act together!
i agree that capital justice must be distinguishable from social justice.No.So you admit the main point of what I said?yea, this reeks of some bullshit.
whites can hire lawyers - the fuck we all can
most whites know lawyers - complete and utter nonsense
blacks go to court and just get fucked - learn how to act in court, show some respect and they won't.
took a buddy to court for a ticket, there was a black kid, whos PD was going to get him off, completely off his dope dealing charge. The judge didn't like it, but he agreed as long as he did community service. They bring the kid out, he's got his hat on sideways, won't stand up straight, slurs when he speaks and shows no respect. Judge sends him to jail, his PD has nothing that he can say b/c the kid was a dick.
A young black man is prosecuted for shoplifting, he goes to prison and gets a felony conviction that will remain with him for the rest of his life.
A young white man caught for shoplifting. His parents will be called to pick him up at the station, after a stern warning.
A young black man is prosecuted for shoplifting, acts the fool b/c he won't show any respect, he goes to prison and gets a felony conviction that will remain with him for the rest of his life.
A young white man caught for shoplifting. His parents will be called to pick him up at the station, after a stern warning. B/c he acted with respect and wasn't trying to get any street creds.
so the difference? blacks want street cred, whites want to go home
blacks demand to be respected, whites show respect
get it?
show up to court all pimped out or show up in a suit and tie?
one will help you get to jail the other will help you get off
see the point?
I know I'm going to be told I'm wrong, but people have to lie
I'm gunna get called a racist b/c people hate the truth.
So the truth is that your conviction and sentence have nothing to do with the crime and everything to do with your demeanor?
This is the real world and I understand what you're saying. If you took someone who looks and acts like Denzel Washington or Cuba Gooding and put them in front of a judge and someone who looks like Little Wayne or Snoop Dogg under identical circumstances, Denzel and Cuba will get likely probation and Little Wayne/Snoop Dogg will get detained.
You're stating the way it is. I get it. But the way it is remains unjust. The world of jurisprudence should never be based on "the way it is". It should always be a punishment that fit the crime regardless of whether the defendant is wearing a thousand dollar dress or pants with the waistband down to his ankles.
while i agree with you as a matter of "weights and measures"; there is still plenty of color to the perception of being denied and disparaged in our privileges and immunities due merely to wealth under our form of Capitalism.With all due respect...the most important thing that a judge looks at isn't skin color...it's a person's criminal history laid out on the desk in front of him or her. If you sit in a court of law and watch how the process works it becomes readily apparent that for a whole lot of people...this isn't their first encounter in court and quite often not their first interaction with a particular judge.
When you see a judge drop the hammer on a defendant? Chances are that's happening because the person has a list of priors that could pass for a short novel or because the person was in front of that judge before and was let off easy. You do NOT want to go back in front of a judge that cut you slack before and warned you to get your act together!
The cost of your cloths has no meaning.No.So you admit the main point of what I said?yea, this reeks of some bullshit.
whites can hire lawyers - the fuck we all can
most whites know lawyers - complete and utter nonsense
blacks go to court and just get fucked - learn how to act in court, show some respect and they won't.
took a buddy to court for a ticket, there was a black kid, whos PD was going to get him off, completely off his dope dealing charge. The judge didn't like it, but he agreed as long as he did community service. They bring the kid out, he's got his hat on sideways, won't stand up straight, slurs when he speaks and shows no respect. Judge sends him to jail, his PD has nothing that he can say b/c the kid was a dick.
A young black man is prosecuted for shoplifting, he goes to prison and gets a felony conviction that will remain with him for the rest of his life.
A young white man caught for shoplifting. His parents will be called to pick him up at the station, after a stern warning.
A young black man is prosecuted for shoplifting, acts the fool b/c he won't show any respect, he goes to prison and gets a felony conviction that will remain with him for the rest of his life.
A young white man caught for shoplifting. His parents will be called to pick him up at the station, after a stern warning. B/c he acted with respect and wasn't trying to get any street creds.
so the difference? blacks want street cred, whites want to go home
blacks demand to be respected, whites show respect
get it?
show up to court all pimped out or show up in a suit and tie?
one will help you get to jail the other will help you get off
see the point?
I know I'm going to be told I'm wrong, but people have to lie
I'm gunna get called a racist b/c people hate the truth.
So the truth is that your conviction and sentence have nothing to do with the crime and everything to do with your demeanor?
This is the real world and I understand what you're saying. If you took someone who looks and acts like Denzel Washington or Cuba Gooding and put them in front of a judge and someone who looks like Little Wayne or Snoop Dogg under identical circumstances, Denzel and Cuba will get likely probation and Little Wayne/Snoop Dogg will get detained.
You're stating the way it is. I get it. But the way it is remains unjust. The world of jurisprudence should never be based on "the way it is". It should always be a punishment that fit the crime regardless of whether the defendant is wearing a thousand dollar dress or pants with the waistband down to his ankles.
Thats even before you factor in that the vast majority of cops police Black/Brown people differently than whites.So you admit the main point of what I said?yea, this reeks of some bullshit.
whites can hire lawyers - the fuck we all can
most whites know lawyers - complete and utter nonsense
blacks go to court and just get fucked - learn how to act in court, show some respect and they won't.
took a buddy to court for a ticket, there was a black kid, whos PD was going to get him off, completely off his dope dealing charge. The judge didn't like it, but he agreed as long as he did community service. They bring the kid out, he's got his hat on sideways, won't stand up straight, slurs when he speaks and shows no respect. Judge sends him to jail, his PD has nothing that he can say b/c the kid was a dick.
A young black man is prosecuted for shoplifting, he goes to prison and gets a felony conviction that will remain with him for the rest of his life.
A young white man caught for shoplifting. His parents will be called to pick him up at the station, after a stern warning.
Not nearly as often as it happens to black people and that is because there is profiling going on. This is something that cannot be denied. The police are profiling, the prosecutors are profiling, the judges are profiling. And it is wrong.My brother did 8 years in the state pen and he always claimed he was at least mostly innocent.What I saw would be shocking. I was defending pro-life demonstrators who were given a ticket for trespassing.
The cop lied about what happened, and in the court his son was watching to watch his father commit perjury.
The D.A. would not release a copy of the video our defendant took.
That's an ethical violation. All evidence showing the defendant might be innocent must be release. But the D.A. didn't.
Fortunately for our side, the demonstrator who was taking the video switched it out before the cops grabbed it.
We used it as surprise evidence, and demonstrated to the court that our clients were not guilty of trespassing.
The female D.A. was literally in tears. She told all her other cop witnesses to clear out before we could catch them.
That experience proved to me that our criminal justice system is corrupt. DA's can do anything they want, and no one will ever call them for it.
Prisons are full of innocent people.
BTW, the lawyer that prosecuted him was trying to run for office.....so....there you go.
This sort of thing happens to nonblacks all of the time.
That's not the issue. I saw a black man put on trial for stealiing two armfuls of hair conditioner. A white man or woman who did the same thing would be let off with a warning.Oh boo hoo! Try not doing the fucking crime moron.
Not nearly as often as it happens to black people and that is because there is profiling going on. This is something that cannot be denied. The police are profiling, the prosecutors are profiling, the judges are profiling. And it is wrong.My brother did 8 years in the state pen and he always claimed he was at least mostly innocent.What I saw would be shocking. I was defending pro-life demonstrators who were given a ticket for trespassing.
The cop lied about what happened, and in the court his son was watching to watch his father commit perjury.
The D.A. would not release a copy of the video our defendant took.
That's an ethical violation. All evidence showing the defendant might be innocent must be release. But the D.A. didn't.
Fortunately for our side, the demonstrator who was taking the video switched it out before the cops grabbed it.
We used it as surprise evidence, and demonstrated to the court that our clients were not guilty of trespassing.
The female D.A. was literally in tears. She told all her other cop witnesses to clear out before we could catch them.
That experience proved to me that our criminal justice system is corrupt. DA's can do anything they want, and no one will ever call them for it.
Prisons are full of innocent people.
BTW, the lawyer that prosecuted him was trying to run for office.....so....there you go.
This sort of thing happens to nonblacks all of the time.
Judges are people too, and they have big egos, which has only grown larger over the years from attorneys showing them extreme deference to their position.
If a defendant doesn't show respect to a judge, the judge WILL hammer him for it.
I had a case in front of a federal judge, and my client kept disrespecting her every time talked. What's worse, he was detained because he broke a court order not to leave the United States. I went over too the jury box where my client was seated, and told him not to talk any more.
Then I begged and pleaded before the judge to have mercy on my client, in most deferential tone.
I got my guy released, despite his own stupidity.
And by the way, I never got paid by that client, so maybe I'm the one who's stupid.
Why would I care?
A number of things in your post don't pass the smell test and frankly, I'm tired of people with agendas trying to put Me down for something I had no hand in.
Everyone is trying to get it better for themselves. That is why progressives lie like they do. They want it better for them, and they won't care if it is unfair to others.
So I don't care. If I get a break because I"m white, even though I didn't ask for it, good for Me and screw the rest of you.
