As a Jew this is hard for me to explain

But your whole argument is based on quantity and Jews being misguided assholes.
You better delete those postings or you’ll come across as a hypocrite.
No. My argument is based on observations. Your people as a whole have forgotten G-d. It’s not the first time. Read your holy texts.

You are the only one I called an asshole. Stop acting like one and I’ll stop calling you one.
So you have warm regards for the million currently serving God as opposed to sharing my contempt for the others who enjoy getting drunk and laid.
You see, we agree!

Getting drunk and laid.

It takes energy trying to understand the American mindset.

There's no attempt at consensus, trying to understand us.
The Jews I am related to deny the existence of God because they want unbridled freedom.
Does it matter why?
Yes; that’s why God granted prophecy to certain individuals to tell us what went wrong.
 
No. My argument is based on observations. Your people as a whole have forgotten G-d. It’s not the first time. Read your holy texts.

You are the only one I called an asshole. Stop acting like one and I’ll stop calling you one.

We haven't forgotten G-D.

He keeps reminding us He hasn't forgotten us.
Of course He hasn’t forgotten your people.

I disagree with you that your people haven’t forgotten him.
I know many Liberal and neo-Con “Jews” who identify as atheists.
So what? What does that have to do with anything?
It makes a difference to the quality of history.
Jews who deny God cause historic disruptions.
No. It makes a difference to the quality of their lives. They can’t see it and they will never accept you telling them that. Some people have to learn things the hard way.
 
No. My argument is based on observations. Your people as a whole have forgotten G-d. It’s not the first time. Read your holy texts.

You are the only one I called an asshole. Stop acting like one and I’ll stop calling you one.
So you have warm regards for the million currently serving God as opposed to sharing my contempt for the others who enjoy getting drunk and laid.
You see, we agree!

Getting drunk and laid.

It takes energy trying to understand the American mindset.

There's no attempt at consensus, trying to understand us.
The Jews I am related to deny the existence of God because they want unbridled freedom.
Does it matter why?
Yes; that’s why God granted prophecy to certain individuals to tell us what went wrong.
Bullshit. That’s not prophecy that’s hindsight.
 
No. My argument is based on observations. Your people as a whole have forgotten G-d. It’s not the first time. Read your holy texts.

You are the only one I called an asshole. Stop acting like one and I’ll stop calling you one.

We haven't forgotten G-D.

He keeps reminding us He hasn't forgotten us.
Of course He hasn’t forgotten your people.

I disagree with you that your people haven’t forgotten him.
I know many Liberal and neo-Con “Jews” who identify as atheists.
So what? What does that have to do with anything?
It makes a difference to the quality of history.
Jews who deny God cause historic disruptions.
Let me tell you why history repeats itself. We keep doing the same stupid things.
 
So you have warm regards for the million currently serving God as opposed to sharing my contempt for the others who enjoy getting drunk and laid.
You see, we agree!

Getting drunk and laid.

It takes energy trying to understand the American mindset.

There's no attempt at consensus, trying to understand us.
The Jews I am related to deny the existence of God because they want unbridled freedom.
Does it matter why?
Yes; that’s why God granted prophecy to certain individuals to tell us what went wrong.
Bullshit. That’s not prophecy that’s hindsight.
I forgot, The Jewish Scriptures, according to you, were authored by Hans Christian Andersen.
 
Getting drunk and laid.

It takes energy trying to understand the American mindset.

There's no attempt at consensus, trying to understand us.
The Jews I am related to deny the existence of God because they want unbridled freedom.
Does it matter why?
Yes; that’s why God granted prophecy to certain individuals to tell us what went wrong.
Bullshit. That’s not prophecy that’s hindsight.
I forgot, The Jewish Scriptures, according to you, were authored by Hans Christian Andersen.
Nope. Ancient Jews. But thanks for misstating my beliefs...




















...again.
 
The Jews I am related to deny the existence of God because they want unbridled freedom.
Does it matter why?
Yes; that’s why God granted prophecy to certain individuals to tell us what went wrong.
Bullshit. That’s not prophecy that’s hindsight.
I forgot, The Jewish Scriptures, according to you, were authored by Hans Christian Andersen.
Nope. Ancient Jews. But thanks for misstating my beliefs...




















...again.

What do you mean, ancient Jews?

What a strange obsession you have.
 
Does it matter why?
Yes; that’s why God granted prophecy to certain individuals to tell us what went wrong.
Bullshit. That’s not prophecy that’s hindsight.
I forgot, The Jewish Scriptures, according to you, were authored by Hans Christian Andersen.
Nope. Ancient Jews. But thanks for misstating my beliefs...




















...again.

What do you mean, ancient Jews?

What a strange obsession you have.
If that’s how you need to see it to satisfy your ego I am happy I can help.
 
Yes; that’s why God granted prophecy to certain individuals to tell us what went wrong.
Bullshit. That’s not prophecy that’s hindsight.
I forgot, The Jewish Scriptures, according to you, were authored by Hans Christian Andersen.
Nope. Ancient Jews. But thanks for misstating my beliefs...




















...again.

What do you mean, ancient Jews?

What a strange obsession you have.
If that’s how you need to see it to satisfy your ego I am happy I can help.


ER.... Wot?
 
The Jews I am related to deny the existence of God because they want unbridled freedom.
Does it matter why?
Yes; that’s why God granted prophecy to certain individuals to tell us what went wrong.
Bullshit. That’s not prophecy that’s hindsight.
I forgot, The Jewish Scriptures, according to you, were authored by Hans Christian Andersen.
Nope. Ancient Jews. But thanks for misstating my beliefs...




















...again.
Just quoting you.
 
Bullshit. That’s not prophecy that’s hindsight.
I forgot, The Jewish Scriptures, according to you, were authored by Hans Christian Andersen.
Nope. Ancient Jews. But thanks for misstating my beliefs...




















...again.

What do you mean, ancient Jews?

What a strange obsession you have.
If that’s how you need to see it to satisfy your ego I am happy I can help.


ER.... Wot?
You should have stopped at the first question if you didn’t want to be called out.
 
Does it matter why?
Yes; that’s why God granted prophecy to certain individuals to tell us what went wrong.
Bullshit. That’s not prophecy that’s hindsight.
I forgot, The Jewish Scriptures, according to you, were authored by Hans Christian Andersen.
Nope. Ancient Jews. But thanks for misstating my beliefs...




















...again.
Just quoting you.
Show me.
 
I forgot, The Jewish Scriptures, according to you, were authored by Hans Christian Andersen.
Nope. Ancient Jews. But thanks for misstating my beliefs...




















...again.

What do you mean, ancient Jews?

What a strange obsession you have.
If that’s how you need to see it to satisfy your ego I am happy I can help.


ER.... Wot?
You should have stopped at the first question if you didn’t want to be called out.

You think?

I'll bear that in mind. :26:
 
Nope. Ancient Jews. But thanks for misstating my beliefs...




















...again.

What do you mean, ancient Jews?

What a strange obsession you have.
If that’s how you need to see it to satisfy your ego I am happy I can help.


ER.... Wot?
You should have stopped at the first question if you didn’t want to be called out.

You think?

I'll bear that in mind. :26:
No you won’t.
 
Yes; that’s why God granted prophecy to certain individuals to tell us what went wrong.
Bullshit. That’s not prophecy that’s hindsight.
I forgot, The Jewish Scriptures, according to you, were authored by Hans Christian Andersen.
Nope. Ancient Jews. But thanks for misstating my beliefs...




















...again.
Just quoting you.
Show me.


Show him, Independent, for pity's sake.

Then we might get some peace
 
The Jews I am related to deny the existence of God because they want unbridled freedom.
Does it matter why?
Yes; that’s why God granted prophecy to certain individuals to tell us what went wrong.
Bullshit. That’s not prophecy that’s hindsight.
I forgot, The Jewish Scriptures, according to you, were authored by Hans Christian Andersen.
Nope. Ancient Jews. But thanks for misstating my beliefs...




















...again.
Define ancient.
You know, an approx historical time period.
 
Does it matter why?
Yes; that’s why God granted prophecy to certain individuals to tell us what went wrong.
Bullshit. That’s not prophecy that’s hindsight.
I forgot, The Jewish Scriptures, according to you, were authored by Hans Christian Andersen.
Nope. Ancient Jews. But thanks for misstating my beliefs...




















...again.
Define ancient.
You know, an approx historical time period.

:rofl:
 
As a Jew this is hard for me to explain

I’m 70 living in 2019ad. For those who didn’t know-------

“ad” means; The years “After Jesus’s death”.,.i.e. (ad)

2,019 years ago;.,.,,.,, Jesus walked the streets of Jerusalem

And He knew “Jerusalem” was not the “Promised Land”

Now over 2,000 years later I have found it.

The “Promised Land “ turns out to be-----

No,
It's not--
the Palestinian Land
now called “Israel”
But
The
“United States of America”
.,.,aka.,.,
USA
The United States​

And as an American, I consider a Jewish American to be just “an American” or a “Jewish American”.

But more importantly; I as an American; I view a Jew as a Jewish person. I view Jews who live in or born in “Israel” as Israelite’s; not a “Jew”, although they are from the same family.

there is a difference

No harm intended or implied

If I have offended, you

Please forgive me :)-

Ok?

Hi watchingfromafar
Thank you for sharing your way of clarifying this.
I have Jewish Christian friends with an outreach ministry nonprofit
who call it the SPIRITUAL ISRAEL meaning the Kingdom of God
that includes ALL children of God as the body or Bride of Christ.

You are right, we should make a distinction between the
Political realm of Physical Israel and the Jews living there
similar to the Catholics at Vatican City which is a different level.

I think there is both the LITERAL physical Israel as the Holy City
and Center. And the SPIRITUAL abstract/collective level
where all believers become grafted on as diverse Branches
to the central TREE (where Yeshua is the Tree of Life).
All those branches can have different denominational names
and still be one with the FAMILY all joined together through Christ
as the trunk of the tree.

People should have clear names for the different tribes.

Or it does get too confusing which lineage people mean!

There is also a lineage of the Jews from Spain who crossed
over to Mexico and may have mixed with the Mayan and
Native descendants in America. So the couple I know where
the wife is connected with the Perez lineage from Spain with
some Mayan or Native mixed in, and her husband who is
Jewish and both are Christian believers but adhere to the
traditional Jewish Torah, temples, elders and cultural heritage
welcome all believers that God has called from diverse backgrounds.

We each keep our family and spiritual lineage, while becoming
one Israel joined in Christ to God and each other as all his children.

I don't think there is any issue, but I agree with you
that it helps to use terms consistently for which tribe you mean!
 

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