'As Rooster Crows', Italian Priest Denies Christ To Appease Muslims

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Do Muslims ever try to hide elements of THEIR faith in order not to offend people of other faiths?

ABSOLUTELY NOT!

So why do Christians believe they have to 'deny Christ' by hiding THEIR faith?


Italian priest nixes Nativity scene to avoid offending Muslims

"Father Sante Braggie, chaplain of the Municipal Cemetery of Cremona and curate of the local parish in Northern Italy, said the display was typically set up within eyesight of a “small corner of the cemetery” that was “reserved for Muslim graves.”

SO?!


"Braggie’s predecessor, Father Oreste Mori, was incredulous. “Seriously? I can’t believe it,” Mori said. “We cannot renounce our culture and traditions. That would be an unpardonable weakness.”

AMEN, FATHER MORI!


Italian priest nixes Nativity scene to avoid offending Muslims
 
Should have known it would be Fox news.

Really, is it worth fighting about??
 
Should have known it would be Fox news.

Really, is it worth fighting about??

Would you ask a Muslim if dropping the Koran on the ground or to NOT wear a head covering because it is 'offensive' is 'worth fighting about?

If you are a true Christian and have strong faith, the answer given would be the same answer given by the Muslim if asked the questions above - YES!

'Appeasement' has always worked out horribly throughout history. But even more than that, as Father Mori pointed out, the bible tells us God says 'If you deny ME publicly I will deny YOU.' Yes, this is a big thing for Christians.
 
Should have known it would be Fox news.

Really, is it worth fighting about??

Would you ask a Muslim if dropping the Koran on the ground or to NOT wear a head covering because it is 'offensive' is 'worth fighting about?

If you are a true Christian and have strong faith, the answer given would be the same answer given by the Muslim if asked the questions above - YES!

'Appeasement' has always worked out horribly throughout history. But even more than that, as Father Mori pointed out, the bible tells us God says 'If you deny ME publicly I will deny YOU.' Yes, this is a big thing for Christians.

I am not sure the story is true, Jihad watch and the other jihad site are not news worthy. Can you give me a worthwhile source, as I do not find Fox news to be worthwhile since they copy from Jihad watch and Briebart.
Besides its not something to fight about.
 
Should have known it would be Fox news.

Really, is it worth fighting about??

Would you ask a Muslim if dropping the Koran on the ground or to NOT wear a head covering because it is 'offensive' is 'worth fighting about?

If you are a true Christian and have strong faith, the answer given would be the same answer given by the Muslim if asked the questions above - YES!

'Appeasement' has always worked out horribly throughout history. But even more than that, as Father Mori pointed out, the bible tells us God says 'If you deny ME publicly I will deny YOU.' Yes, this is a big thing for Christians.

I am not sure the story is true, Jihad watch and the other jihad site are not news worthy. Can you give me a worthwhile source, as I do not find Fox news to be worthwhile since they copy from Jihad watch and Briebart.
Besides its not something to fight about.

I have searched all over the internet including Italian News and the only ones talking about this are Rightwing bogus news outlets..

This fake story is probably getting the Republican Christians all angry so they don't pay attention to the crooks Trump is putting into office.


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Should have known it would be Fox news.

Really, is it worth fighting about??


Should have known it would be Fox news.

Really, is it worth fighting about??

Would you ask a Muslim if dropping the Koran on the ground or to NOT wear a head covering because it is 'offensive' is 'worth fighting about?

If you are a true Christian and have strong faith, the answer given would be the same answer given by the Muslim if asked the questions above - YES!

'Appeasement' has always worked out horribly throughout history. But even more than that, as Father Mori pointed out, the bible tells us God says 'If you deny ME publicly I will deny YOU.' Yes, this is a big thing for Christians.

I am not sure the story is true, Jihad watch and the other jihad site are not news worthy. Can you give me a worthwhile source, as I do not find Fox news to be worthwhile since they copy from Jihad watch and Briebart.
Besides its not something to fight about.

How long before this sort of things is in a town near you in the US ? Would you be so blase if it did, if so then for someone exercising their Constitutional right to free speech you seem to not be worried so much about the rest of the 1st Amendment and others right to free exercise of it.

Speaking from personal experience Muslims do not take a presumed slight to their religion as well as Christians do. I've had direct shouting matches with Christians but nothing else. While stationed in Korea had to forcefully remove to self-proclaimed moderate muslims from a bar my Ethiopian girlfriend and her Somali friend where in because after they introduced themselves the Somali girl got angry describing the murder and mayhem Muslims were causing against Christians in her homeland she wasn't particularly kind but that was no reason for the moderate muslims to turn over our table and threaten the girl that's when I showed them the door.
 
Should have known it would be Fox news.

Really, is it worth fighting about??


Should have known it would be Fox news.

Really, is it worth fighting about??

Would you ask a Muslim if dropping the Koran on the ground or to NOT wear a head covering because it is 'offensive' is 'worth fighting about?

If you are a true Christian and have strong faith, the answer given would be the same answer given by the Muslim if asked the questions above - YES!

'Appeasement' has always worked out horribly throughout history. But even more than that, as Father Mori pointed out, the bible tells us God says 'If you deny ME publicly I will deny YOU.' Yes, this is a big thing for Christians.

I am not sure the story is true, Jihad watch and the other jihad site are not news worthy. Can you give me a worthwhile source, as I do not find Fox news to be worthwhile since they copy from Jihad watch and Briebart.
Besides its not something to fight about.

How long before this sort of things is in a town near you in the US ? Would you be so blase if it did, if so then for someone exercising their Constitutional right to free speech you seem to not be worried so much about the rest of the 1st Amendment and others right to free exercise of it.

Speaking from personal experience Muslims do not take a presumed slight to their religion as well as Christians do. I've had direct shouting matches with Christians but nothing else. While stationed in Korea had to forcefully remove to self-proclaimed moderate muslims from a bar my Ethiopian girlfriend and her Somali friend where in because after they introduced themselves the Somali girl got angry describing the murder and mayhem Muslims were causing against Christians in her homeland she wasn't particularly kind but that was no reason for the moderate muslims to turn over our table and threaten the girl that's when I showed them the door.

Incidences happen, sounds like your Christian girlfriend took it out on the two Muslims, and how did you show them the door?
 
Should have known it would be Fox news.

Really, is it worth fighting about??


Should have known it would be Fox news.

Really, is it worth fighting about??

Would you ask a Muslim if dropping the Koran on the ground or to NOT wear a head covering because it is 'offensive' is 'worth fighting about?

If you are a true Christian and have strong faith, the answer given would be the same answer given by the Muslim if asked the questions above - YES!

'Appeasement' has always worked out horribly throughout history. But even more than that, as Father Mori pointed out, the bible tells us God says 'If you deny ME publicly I will deny YOU.' Yes, this is a big thing for Christians.

I am not sure the story is true, Jihad watch and the other jihad site are not news worthy. Can you give me a worthwhile source, as I do not find Fox news to be worthwhile since they copy from Jihad watch and Briebart.
Besides its not something to fight about.

How long before this sort of things is in a town near you in the US ? Would you be so blase if it did, if so then for someone exercising their Constitutional right to free speech you seem to not be worried so much about the rest of the 1st Amendment and others right to free exercise of it.

Speaking from personal experience Muslims do not take a presumed slight to their religion as well as Christians do. I've had direct shouting matches with Christians but nothing else. While stationed in Korea had to forcefully remove to self-proclaimed moderate muslims from a bar my Ethiopian girlfriend and her Somali friend where in because after they introduced themselves the Somali girl got angry describing the murder and mayhem Muslims were causing against Christians in her homeland she wasn't particularly kind but that was no reason for the moderate muslims to turn over our table and threaten the girl that's when I showed them the door.

Incidences happen, sounds like your Christian girlfriend took it out on the two Muslims, and how did you show them the door?
They could have argued with her and I would have been fine with that and probably just listened, my experience with Muslims was next to nil at the time, but tossing the table and threatening her nope. I grabbed them by the throats and escorted them out the door. By the way the Somali girl was the most vocal my Ethiopian girlfriend agreed just not as loud as some of the problems were starting to happen in her country.

You see I am White Atheist male who was dating a Christian Ethiopian women when these two Muslim men asked to sit at our table I cordially agreed at first they did not get angry and seem to be sympathetic but as the Somali girl went on they turned ugly and then the table went along with the threats so I made them leave. They spilt my beer and food and threatened my girls friend. I don't have a prejudiced bone in my body
 
They could have argued with her and I would have been fine with that and probably just listened, my experience with Muslims was next to nil at the time, but tossing the table and threatening her nope. I grabbed them by the throats and escorted them out the door. By the way the Somali girl was the most vocal my Ethiopian girlfriend agreed just not as loud as some of the problems were starting to happen in her country.

You see I am White Atheist male who was dating a Christian Ethiopian women when these two Muslim men asked to sit at our table I cordially agreed at first they did not get angry and seem to be sympathetic but as the Somali girl went on they turned ugly and then the table went along with the threats so I made them leave. They spilt my beer and food and threatened my girls friend. I don't have a prejudiced bone in my body

Just curious - as an Atheist - are you 'irreparably damaged' by the site of a Rosary, someone saying 'god bless you when you sneeze', or saying Merry Christmas? Just curious...
 
I have looked as well, and I can't find anything. Thank you.

Well can you read Italian? I seriously doubt this Milano newspaper is as “corrupt” as Fox or Breitbart in your glazed over world.

Cremona, via il presepe dal cimitero «Per rispetto degli islamici sepolti»

Italian priest nixes Nativity scene to avoid offending Muslims

So the Muslims didn't say a word did they, he just used that as an excuse as he didn't want to bother others to help set it up as everyone was busy.

Is it set up now, sounds like it , is there any commotion about it.

Ps: I used a translator.
 
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I asked TK1965 if others' beliefs was offensive for a reason.

As a Christian I am not offended by anyone celebrating Kwanza, Jews celebrating Hanukkah, or even Jerry Seinfeld fans celebrating 'Festivus'. Why should I mind - their doing so brings them Joy and does not take anything away from me. My family gives my wife's ex-Mother-in-Law's Jewish husband (Yeah, we are close and it is a WEIRD family thing) Hanukkah presents every year.

Many people go out and LOOK for something to be offended by. Others look to impose their will on others. There are even some so miserable they want to inflict that on others.

The most universal message that should be embraced by all people - those of faith and not -is 'Love one another'. do unto others as you would have done unto you!

Whether a person of faith or not, I personally hope EVERYONE has an awesome, blessed Christmas and a joyous Holiday, no matter what you celebrate.

Merry Christmas, everyone....before I forget. :p
 
Should have known it would be Fox news.

Really, is it worth fighting about??
It is worth dying about, dude.

I do not get where the Muslims were upset, but he didn't want to set it up and ask for help. No, religions are not worth dying for.

In short, it would be a mess.”

The priest also said that there were a shortage of council workers to set up the crib.

Also on Fox News why is there a picture of the world pop of Muslims?
 
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So the Muslims didn't say a word did they, he just used that as an excuse as he didn't want to bother others to help set it up as everyone was busy.

Is it set up now, sounds like it , is there any commotion about it.

Ps: I used a translator.

Well if what you say is true then you just scored one point in my mind and I stand corrected.

The score now reads Christians - 500 Jews - 300 Muslims - 1.

Actually, I will give you 2 more points for diligence and using a translator!
 
Should have known it would be Fox news.

Really, is it worth fighting about??
It is worth dying about, dude.

I do not get where the Muslims were upset, but he didn't want to set it up and ask for help. No, religions are not worth dying for.

It's more like the freedom of self determination and what is important to you

No where does it say the Muslims were upset, but I do take it as the Priest used it as an excuse due to lack of help.
 

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