Assassinating American Citizens ... for or against?

[Ravi]

No answer, Dune?

I'm not surprised. It says any person, not any American citizen.

Basically we can take no person into custody and punish them without a fair trial.

We can however allow the military in times of war or trouble to kill our enemies.

Otherwise all wars we've been involved with would have required us to take every enemy soldier into custody and hold a trial.

The founding fathers weren't retards.

 

[Amelia]

From your post;



nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law

Show me where it says due process applies to any American citizen.

Stupid post of the year^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

At least a finalist.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

No answer, Dune?

I'm not surprised. It says any person, not any American citizen.

Basically we can take no person into custody and punish them without a fair trial.

We can however allow the military in times of war or trouble to kill our enemies.

Otherwise all wars we've been involved with would have required us to take every enemy soldier into custody and hold a trial.

The founding fathers weren't retards.

The Constitution of The United states applies only to American citizens

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

 

[Dune]

No it doesn't. But go right ahead and prove your case.

From your post;



nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law

Show me where it says due process applies to any American citizen.

I can hardly teach you to read over the internet.

 

[Amelia]

No answer, Dune?

I'm not surprised. It says any person, not any American citizen.

Basically we can take no person into custody and punish them without a fair trial.

We can however allow the military in times of war or trouble to kill our enemies.

Otherwise all wars we've been involved with would have required us to take every enemy soldier into custody and hold a trial.

The founding fathers weren't retards.

The Constitution of The United states applies only to American citizens

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Parts of it have been extended by interpretation and generosity to noncitizens. But of course, at the core, it is a document about the rights and responsibilities of We the People of the United States.

I don't have an inkling of how to come to a meeting of the minds with people who don't understand that.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

No answer, Dune?

I'm not surprised. It says any person, not any American citizen.

Basically we can take no person into custody and punish them without a fair trial.

We can however allow the military in times of war or trouble to kill our enemies.

Otherwise all wars we've been involved with would have required us to take every enemy soldier into custody and hold a trial.

The founding fathers weren't retards.

The Constitution of The United states applies only to American citizens

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Parts of it have been extended by interpretation and generosity to noncitizens. But of course, at the core, it is a document about the rights and responsibilities of We the People of the United States.

I don't have an inkling of how to come to a meeting of the minds with people who don't understand that.

AMENDMENT XIV
Passed by Congress June 13, 1866. Ratified July 9, 1868.

Note: Article I, section 2, of the Constitution was modified by section 2 of the 14th amendment.

Section 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

 

[Dune]

Still waiting....

Are you like a full blooded retard or something?

 

[Dune]

No it doesn't. But go right ahead and prove your case.

From your post;



nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law

Show me where it says due process applies to any American citizen.

Ask your mom or any adult.

 

[Dune]

No answer, Dune?

I'm not surprised. It says any person, not any American citizen.

Basically we can take no person into custody and punish them without a fair trial.

We can however allow the military in times of war or trouble to kill our enemies.

Otherwise all wars we've been involved with would have required us to take every enemy soldier into custody and hold a trial.

The founding fathers weren't retards.

No, but you are.

 

[Jos]

Due process is the legal principle that the government must respect all of the legal rights that are owed to a person according to the law. Due process holds the government subservient to the law of the land protecting individual persons from the state. When a government harms a person without following the exact course of the law it constitutes a due process violation which offends against the rule of law.

Due process - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[High_Gravity]

Due process is the legal principle that the government must respect all of the legal rights that are owed to a person according to the law. Due process holds the government subservient to the law of the land protecting individual persons from the state. When a government harms a person without following the exact course of the law it constitutes a due process violation which offends against the rule of law.

Due process - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

How is the government supposed to give due process to someone hiding out in the foot hills of Yemen? if he turned himself in he would have recieved it.

 

[Amelia]

The Constitution of The United states applies only to American citizens

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Parts of it have been extended by interpretation and generosity to noncitizens. But of course, at the core, it is a document about the rights and responsibilities of We the People of the United States.

I don't have an inkling of how to come to a meeting of the minds with people who don't understand that.

AMENDMENT XIV
Passed by Congress June 13, 1866. Ratified July 9, 1868.

Note: Article I, section 2, of the Constitution was modified by section 2 of the 14th amendment.

Section 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

I hope you know I wasn't arguing with you. Merely pointing out that some constitutional privileges have been extended by the courts to non-citizens. For example, illegal aliens are given rights to trials - whether I like it or not.

But that in no way suggests that the Constitution isn't fundamentally about American citizens.

So essentially I agree with you, with one little caveat.


And I totally don't understand those who don't understand that the Constitution is about We the People of the United States.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Parts of it have been extended by interpretation and generosity to noncitizens. But of course, at the core, it is a document about the rights and responsibilities of We the People of the United States.

I don't have an inkling of how to come to a meeting of the minds with people who don't understand that.

AMENDMENT XIV
Passed by Congress June 13, 1866. Ratified July 9, 1868.

Note: Article I, section 2, of the Constitution was modified by section 2 of the 14th amendment.

Section 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

I hope you know I wasn't arguing with you. Merely pointing out that some constitutional privileges have been extended by the courts to non-citizens. For example, illegal aliens are given are given rights to trials - whether I like it or not.

But that in no way suggests that the Constitution isn't fundamentally about American citizens.

So essentially I agree with you, with one little caveat.


And I totally don't understand those who don't understand that the Constitution is about We the People of the United States.

I know I just added it for more evidence.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Due process is the legal principle that the government must respect all of the legal rights that are owed to a person according to the law. Due process holds the government subservient to the law of the land protecting individual persons from the state. When a government harms a person without following the exact course of the law it constitutes a due process violation which offends against the rule of law.

Due process - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

How is the government supposed to give due process to someone hiding out in the foot hills of Yemen? if he turned himself in he would have recieved it.

With all the military hardware we have and the special forces? COME ON they got to bin Ladin didn't they?

 

[Ravi]

No answer, Dune?

I'm not surprised. It says any person, not any American citizen.

Basically we can take no person into custody and punish them without a fair trial.

We can however allow the military in times of war or trouble to kill our enemies.

Otherwise all wars we've been involved with would have required us to take every enemy soldier into custody and hold a trial.

The founding fathers weren't retards.

The Constitution of The United states applies only to American citizens

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

LOL! You even can't read that for comprehension.

Pretty pathetic.

 

[Jos]

Due process is the legal principle that the government must respect all of the legal rights that are owed to a person according to the law. Due process holds the government subservient to the law of the land protecting individual persons from the state. When a government harms a person without following the exact course of the law it constitutes a due process violation which offends against the rule of law.

Due process - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

How is the government supposed to give due process to someone hiding out in the foot hills of Yemen? if he turned himself in he would have recieved it.

What were the charges?

 

[Ravi]

No answer, Dune?

I'm not surprised. It says any person, not any American citizen.

Basically we can take no person into custody and punish them without a fair trial.

We can however allow the military in times of war or trouble to kill our enemies.

Otherwise all wars we've been involved with would have required us to take every enemy soldier into custody and hold a trial.

The founding fathers weren't retards.

No, but you are.

Nope, that would be you. Dismissed.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

No answer, Dune?

I'm not surprised. It says any person, not any American citizen.

Basically we can take no person into custody and punish them without a fair trial.

We can however allow the military in times of war or trouble to kill our enemies.

Otherwise all wars we've been involved with would have required us to take every enemy soldier into custody and hold a trial.

The founding fathers weren't retards.

No, but you are.

Nope, that would be you. Dismissed.

Read my signature the first sentence. that comment of your's is the most stupidist comment I have ever read here,

 

[Valerie]

No, but you are.

Nope, that would be you. Dismissed.

Read my signature the first sentence. that comment of your's is the most stupidist comment I have ever read here,

Way to highlight your dishonesty!

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Nope, that would be you. Dismissed.

Read my signature the first sentence. that comment of your's is the most stupidist comment I have ever read here,

Way to highlight your dishonesty!

So it my fault that she wrote a stupid comment? I didn';t force her to write it.