Attempts to Roll Back Marriage Equality since the Trump Election.

[Syriusly]

Who you talking to smiley !?? You need to do some reading on constitutional law because you have no fucking idea what you are talking about, and making assumptions about me tell me what a fucking moron you are.

Please point to where in the Constitution that deviant sexual addictions .

Why are you talking about 'deviant sexual addictions'?

We are not talking about your life- we are talking about marriage equality.

If you want to know about the Constitution and marriage equality- read Loving v. Virginia and Obergefell.

 

[Syriusly]

Bro...faggotry should be a state matter, it is not addressed in the constitution in any way, shape or form.

Roll back your militancy or you can expect nothing but push back. You said you wanted tolerance, I knew you were lying back in the '80's & '90's... But now it is clear what you want is dominance. Fuck you faggot, not while I'm still breathing.

LOL- another tiny dick homophobe!

Assholes like you have been telling Americans what kind of sex is allowed- and what is not allowed for decades- it took the Supreme Court to put an end to your tyranny.

From Loving v. Virginia to Lawrence v. Texas- your tyranny is over.

 

[Syriusly]

I see the Pedo-Friendlies still fear losing their ability to accumulate personal kiddie harems. Sick freaks, all of them.

I see bigots like you trying to paint homosexuals as pedos- knowing at the same time that you endanger the safety of children doing so.

 

[Uncensored2008]

While Trump himself has been pretty quiet on the subject of same sex marriage and LGBT rights in general, we know that he has surrounded himself with some of the most opprobrious bigots - both religious and those that are just far right-or alt right -ideologues and hate mongers.

There was the recent report - a resulted from a leak from the White House- that an executive order was being drafted to overturn Obamas EO prohibiting discrimination against Federal LGBT employees and contractors. If put in front of Trump, the lazy and incurious plutocrat might have mindlessly signed it. Fortunately, Jerod and Ivanka Kushner- two of the few rational and decent people on his inner circle interceded and it was quashed.

Nevertheless, the knowledge of the anti gay forces lurking in the White House, have , apparently ,emboldened ideological bigots and religious zealots across the country to take new aim at marriage equality.

There are at least three attempts in progress to do so. All have been launched since the election, and I can't help but to believe that they have been inspired and encouraged by the reactionary forces that have gained power and influence recently. No doubt that the prospect of tipping the balance of the Supreme Court is also a factor. Consider:

Tennessee Bill Would Undo Marriage Equality
A bill making its way through the Tennessee state legislature aims to roll back marriage equality in the Volunteer State. But LGBT advocates say the legislation is an unconstitutional attempt to overrule the U.S. Supreme Court.
Tennessee Republican Rep. Mark Pody, who claims God has called him to stop same-sex marriages, introduced House Bill 1412, the Tennessee Natural Marriage Defense Act, last September. At the same time, Sen. Mae Beavers, also a Republican, introduced companion legislation in the Senate.

This is really stupid and unconstitutional is light of the Obergefell ruling. What are these people thinking and do they not have anything better to do? Are there not some actual problems to address that they will spent time, money and energy on this??

As written, the bill seeks to declare it "the policy of Tennessee to defend natural marriage between one man and one woman regardless of any court decision to the contrary." It requires state officials, including the attorney general, to "defend any state or local government official from any lawsuit" arising from an official's refusal to marry a same-sex couple. The bill also seeks to prevent state and local agencies from implementing any punishment for those violating the Supreme Court's June 2015 ruling that mandated legal marriage equality nationwide.

They cannot possibly get away with this unless they can get Obergefell and Windsor overturned, and that is not happening. Similarly, the City of Houston is trying to undermine the right of same sex partners of city employees to recieve spousal benefits, also in violation of Obergefell:

Amid GOP Pressure, Texas High Court to Hear Challenge to Spousal Benefits

The Texas Supreme Court Friday agreed to hear a case challenging some of the rights gained with marriage equality.
The case involves whether the city of Houston is obligated to provide benefits to same-sex spouses of city employees, The Dallas Morning News reports. In September the high court had declined to hear the case, but justices reversed that decision amid pressure from top Republican state officials, including Gov. Greg Abbott, Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick, and Attorney General Ken Paxton.

Then we have this out of Arkansas.

Seriously, Arkansas? Even Trump Knows Same-Sex Marriage Is Done Deal
Guys, you aren’t actually going to even believe this. There are still people trying to get rid of same-sex marriage. If you’re all, “didn’t we already fight about this a long time ago?” you’d be right. Except that news apparently hasn’t hit Arkansas just yet. One of its esteemed legislators just filed a Senate Joint Resolution requesting the United States Congress to start working on a Constitutional Amendment defining marriage as the “union of one man and one woman.” How positively late-90s of him.

Yes, it is unlikely to go anywhere, and even congressional Republicans know that it is unpopular and a colossal waste of time. However, the point is, as I have said, that there has been a flurry of this type of activity since the election. Does anyone deny the obvious connection given that fact that no such attempts to roll back marriage equality in the 18 months or so since the Obergefell ruling were introduced until now.??

This is all you Soros drones have today?

Must be a SLOW hate day over at ThinkProgress....

 

[Syriusly]

Keep it up, Sil. You are doing a great service for western civilization and humanity. I share much of the info you provide to both friends and family.

LOL.......now that amount of sharing of lies is really scarey.

 

[Syriusly]

I see the Pedo-Friendlies still fear losing their ability to accumulate personal kiddie harems. Sick freaks, all of them.

Thank you for that thoughtful and articulate contribution to an important and sensitive topic. You are an invaluable member of this community. Now wipe the spit off your chin and shut the fuck up.

Agreed, this is a sensitive topic. What could be more sensitive that the debate of whether or not children should lose their main historical benefit of marriage: both a vital mother and father..if the word, institution and contract should be stripped of that benefit to children..(without their having unique & separate representation)

Everybody realizes that this is entirely a Silhouette fiction right?

In the years posting here she has been able to provide no evidence of her claim- she just keeps repeating what the voices in her head tell her.

Marriage and children are largely seperate issues.

Couples can and do marry without any intent to ever have children- that includes my 80 plus year old uncle and his 70 plus bride. States are fine with that. Because the primary benefits of marriage are not about raising children.

Couples can and do have children without marrying. States are fine with that also.

Single parents can and do raise children without being married- like Silhouette did. And the biggest challenge those kids have(statistically) is that they are more likely to be economically challenged.

And married parents can and do divorce- without input from the children. Child custody has to be settled- whether a couple is married or not.

Silhouette has created this fiction because its the only issue she can convince herself that will sell in trying to harm gay couples.

But of course it would only harm the children of gay couples.

And Silhouette knows that.

 

[Syriusly]

What's funny is homos are so stupid they didn't know they could basically sign contracts similar to marriage contracts without the Obergefel ruling. .

Are you stupid, ignorant or lying? Or all three.

There never existed any alternative to marriage that conferred all the benefits of marriage.

And bigots like you worked hard to ensure that.

 

[Syriusly]

I'm an agnostic, it has nothing to with religion for me, it's obvious they're sicko deviants and sociopaths

Well, the Scriptures affirm that "nature itself" should teach us this is a perversion of Creation:

“God delivered them over in the cravings of their hearts to sexual impurity, so that their bodies were degraded among themselves. They exchanged the truth of God for a lie …. God delivered them over to degrading passions. For even their females exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. The males in the same way also left natural relations with females and were inflamed in their lust for one another” (Romans 1:24-27 HCSB).

Yes. Obviously it was a severe mental disorder then as well,.

And you know this because you read the Graphic Novel of Psychology.....LOL

 

[Syriusly]

While Trump himself has been pretty quiet on the subject of same sex marriage and LGBT rights in general, we know that he has surrounded himself with some of the most opprobrious bigots - both religious and those that are just far right-or alt right -ideologues and hate mongers.

There was the recent report - a resulted from a leak from the White House- that an executive order was being drafted to overturn Obamas EO prohibiting discrimination against Federal LGBT employees and contractors. If put in front of Trump, the lazy and incurious plutocrat might have mindlessly signed it. Fortunately, Jerod and Ivanka Kushner- two of the few rational and decent people on his inner circle interceded and it was quashed.

Nevertheless, the knowledge of the anti gay forces lurking in the White House, have , apparently ,emboldened ideological bigots and religious zealots across the country to take new aim at marriage equality.

There are at least three attempts in progress to do so. All have been launched since the election, and I can't help but to believe that they have been inspired and encouraged by the reactionary forces that have gained power and influence recently. No doubt that the prospect of tipping the balance of the Supreme Court is also a factor. Consider:

Tennessee Bill Would Undo Marriage Equality
A bill making its way through the Tennessee state legislature aims to roll back marriage equality in the Volunteer State. But LGBT advocates say the legislation is an unconstitutional attempt to overrule the U.S. Supreme Court.
Tennessee Republican Rep. Mark Pody, who claims God has called him to stop same-sex marriages, introduced House Bill 1412, the Tennessee Natural Marriage Defense Act, last September. At the same time, Sen. Mae Beavers, also a Republican, introduced companion legislation in the Senate.

This is really stupid and unconstitutional is light of the Obergefell ruling. What are these people thinking and do they not have anything better to do? Are there not some actual problems to address that they will spent time, money and energy on this??

As written, the bill seeks to declare it "the policy of Tennessee to defend natural marriage between one man and one woman regardless of any court decision to the contrary." It requires state officials, including the attorney general, to "defend any state or local government official from any lawsuit" arising from an official's refusal to marry a same-sex couple. The bill also seeks to prevent state and local agencies from implementing any punishment for those violating the Supreme Court's June 2015 ruling that mandated legal marriage equality nationwide.

They cannot possibly get away with this unless they can get Obergefell and Windsor overturned, and that is not happening. Similarly, the City of Houston is trying to undermine the right of same sex partners of city employees to recieve spousal benefits, also in violation of Obergefell:

Amid GOP Pressure, Texas High Court to Hear Challenge to Spousal Benefits

The Texas Supreme Court Friday agreed to hear a case challenging some of the rights gained with marriage equality.
The case involves whether the city of Houston is obligated to provide benefits to same-sex spouses of city employees, The Dallas Morning News reports. In September the high court had declined to hear the case, but justices reversed that decision amid pressure from top Republican state officials, including Gov. Greg Abbott, Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick, and Attorney General Ken Paxton.

Then we have this out of Arkansas.

Seriously, Arkansas? Even Trump Knows Same-Sex Marriage Is Done Deal
Guys, you aren’t actually going to even believe this. There are still people trying to get rid of same-sex marriage. If you’re all, “didn’t we already fight about this a long time ago?” you’d be right. Except that news apparently hasn’t hit Arkansas just yet. One of its esteemed legislators just filed a Senate Joint Resolution requesting the United States Congress to start working on a Constitutional Amendment defining marriage as the “union of one man and one woman.” How positively late-90s of him.

Yes, it is unlikely to go anywhere, and even congressional Republicans know that it is unpopular and a colossal waste of time. However, the point is, as I have said, that there has been a flurry of this type of activity since the election. Does anyone deny the obvious connection given that fact that no such attempts to roll back marriage equality in the 18 months or so since the Obergefell ruling were introduced until now.??

It used to be people that literally believed God was talking to them were given psychiatric evaluation. Nowadays, they are elected to public office.

As much as Republicans hate blacks, Hispanics, Muslims and others, they hate gays most of all. Then those odious and hate filled miscreants claim they are the party of God.

Rdeans are the worst though. We hate them even more than teh gheys.

Vermin who identify so strongly with sick deviants are certainly questionable as well, and kept away from children, too.

So we should keep vermin like you away from children.

 

[Syriusly]

[
I really don't care what homos do, but MARRIAGE is a GOD ordained institution. The homosexuals have bullied our politicians to REDEFINE marriage to accommodate the perverted. This has to be resisted.

Resist as much as you want.

Marriage in the United States is a civil institution- which is why people get civil marriage licences.

For those who want a religious institution, you can get married religiously also.

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

Keep it up, Sil. You are doing a great service for western civilization and humanity. I share much of the info you provide to both friends and family.

LOL.......now that amount of sharing of lies is really scarey.

She doesn't lie. You do.

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

Apparently everything Syriously disagrees with must be a lie in her book.

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

Syriously acts like she has read psychological studies but she hasn't.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

LOL- another tiny dick homophobe!

Assholes

Assholes and tiny dicks. Well, now we know what occupies your mind.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Apparently everything Syriously disagrees with must be a lie in her book.

Oh. It';s a woman obsessed with tiny dicks? I assumed it was a "man."

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

Apparently everything Syriously disagrees with must be a lie in her book.

Oh. It';s a woman obsessed with tiny dicks? I assumed it was a "man."

Most women who talk about men with tiny dicks have loose meatholes.. So let that sink in.

 

[Silhouette]

Since Obergefel, the issue of same sex marriage is settled. Now, it's the rights of of those who do not want to embrace perversion for themselves that need to be protected.

No actually it isn't. And the reason why it isn't is because of the main beneficiaries of the marriage contract: Children. Children did not have any unique representation at Obergefell for the main benefit they derived from the marriage contract: the guarantee of BOTH a mother and father. You cannot revise contracts in the US without all parties to said contract at the table with unique representation. Worse still, especially contracts cannot be revised to the demise of children that were involved in them. Can't be done. No contract involving children can contain terms onerous to them or terms that strip a vital provision away from them. Cant' be done.

On that point alone Obergefell could be overturned. But worse still, at least one, but probably two Justices were in violation of Capterton v A.T. Massey Coal (2009)'s findings that say no judge can advertise bias towards the outcome of a case in advance of hearing it. Ginsburg went on public media several weeks before the 2015 Hearing and told the world her verdict on Obergefell before she even sat on over it. That case can be overturned on that alone; or at a minimum...reheard with ALL parties to the proposed mandated contract revision having representation there..

Supreme Court decisions do not get revisited and overturned- they do not get 'reheard'.

Now it is possible a new case could come before the court- but no new case will argue your bizarre fictoin of 'contract' law.

Technically, it would take a new case where a challenge was made to a SCOTUS case that returned power of qualifiers for marriage to the states....like one demanding polygamy be legal on all the "logic" of Obergefell. A new SCOTUS would have to merely interpret the states powers differently than Obergefell and in the name of equality of all lifestyles, remand the power of qualifying for marriage back to the states.

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

Since Obergefel, the issue of same sex marriage is settled. Now, it's the rights of of those who do not want to embrace perversion for themselves that need to be protected.

No actually it isn't. And the reason why it isn't is because of the main beneficiaries of the marriage contract: Children. Children did not have any unique representation at Obergefell for the main benefit they derived from the marriage contract: the guarantee of BOTH a mother and father. You cannot revise contracts in the US without all parties to said contract at the table with unique representation. Worse still, especially contracts cannot be revised to the demise of children that were involved in them. Can't be done. No contract involving children can contain terms onerous to them or terms that strip a vital provision away from them. Cant' be done.

On that point alone Obergefell could be overturned. But worse still, at least one, but probably two Justices were in violation of Capterton v A.T. Massey Coal (2009)'s findings that say no judge can advertise bias towards the outcome of a case in advance of hearing it. Ginsburg went on public media several weeks before the 2015 Hearing and told the world her verdict on Obergefell before she even sat on over it. That case can be overturned on that alone; or at a minimum...reheard with ALL parties to the proposed mandated contract revision having representation there..

Supreme Court decisions do not get revisited and overturned- they do not get 'reheard'.

Now it is possible a new case could come before the court- but no new case will argue your bizarre fictoin of 'contract' law.

Technically, it would take a new case where a challenge was made to a SCOTUS case that returned power of qualifiers for marriage to the states....like one demanding polygamy be legal on all the "logic" of Obergefell. A new SCOTUS would have to merely interpret the states powers differently than Obergefell and in the name of equality of all lifestyles, remand the power of qualifying for marriage back to the states.

^ Classy woman.

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

Best song ever.

 

[Picaro]

Apparently everything Syriously disagrees with must be a lie in her book.

Oh. It';s a woman obsessed with tiny dicks? I assumed it was a "man."

Most women who talk about men with tiny dicks have loose meatholes.. So let that sink in.

Well, nearly every single one of these Pedo-Friendlies eventually out themselves here as some sort of deviant or other, which is no surprise. there is zero data to back up their fantasy narratives and quite a lot showing they're truly sick gimps. that's why they rely entirely on such fare as the troll Syriously posts. They quit posting to actual 'studies' because some people 'cheat' and actually read the studies and examine the methodologies, so now they're all behind pay walls and we're supposed to just believe what gimps say they say or something.