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I have lived in the epi-center of the liberal loons of New England for the last 6 years.
When ever I am working around these Harvard educated nitwits.
I always pepper my speech with "ya all' and "I reckon so"
That coupled with my southern accent seems to drive them crazy.
It's great fun!!
will it be fine if the community desides to boycot the baker?
I hope your friends don't let you down. I had a seamstress several years ago who told me that she weeded out the pains in the ass by telling them she was just 'too busy' to do the work they asked for. Even so, a flimsy excuse to weed out race is not tolerated in the courts if the person is open to the public.
You are not understanding the correct principle. The reason I won my lawsuit is because the lesbian couple could not prove that I was in the business of portraiture. They proved that I had a dog grooming shop, but I didn't discriminate against their dog. They proved that my artwork was on display but did not prove that I refused to sell them any artwork already produced. They proved that on occasion I did paint the portraits of friends. But they could never prove that I was in the business of portraiture and they were entitled to the protection of public accommodation laws.
Your seamstress is in the same position as my mechanic who refuses to work for black people. He doesn't have to say he's too busy. He just says no. Since he's not in "business" he's not a place of public accommodation. Of course this is supported by the courts who cannot force someone to basically do a favor for someone else. As you said IF the person is open to the public. That's a very big IF and it does have to be proved.
I think it would be difficult to prove that a baker was not open to the public for wedding cakes. I doubt most do the decorating themselves, but have people hired who do the job. You just don't hire people to do favors for friends.
ORS 659A.403 is the law in question. In short, it prohibits discrimination in places of public accommodation. Klein and his wife have two weeks to respond to the Oregon Department of Justice's inquiry into what happened.
IMO, if you have a business that is open to the public, like a restaurant, then you can't discriminate. However if you have a business where it's an individual contract, like photography or in this case a commissioned cake, then you should be allowed to refuse service for any reason.
This is what happens when you live on the "left" coast.
Every facet of your life is controlled by some "feel good" or "that isn't fair" law.
I can't even imagine what it's like to live in those states that are so repressive and restrictive and controlling.
This is what happens when you live on the "left" coast.
Every facet of your life is controlled by some "feel good" or "that isn't fair" law.
I can't even imagine what it's like to live in those states that are so repressive and restrictive and controlling.
That's why there is such a split between public and private accommodation occurring. Make a law, someone is going to be creative enough to find a way around it. That's what happened in the old Soviet Union. There was the public service outlets and the private underground outlets that did a competent job.
It's happening every place. Not just the feel good coasts. Look at the number of "proms" that have cropped up. There is the school prom, but the real prom is private and by invitation only.
ORS 659A.403 is the law in question. In short, it prohibits discrimination in places of public accommodation. Klein and his wife have two weeks to respond to the Oregon Department of Justice's inquiry into what happened.
Very clear and straightforward.
And certainly no conservative is going to object to a state enacting and enforcing its own laws, what with states rights and everything.
Or will this be yet another example of conservative hypocrisy, where the state is violating the right of the shop owner to discriminate, and refuse service to whomever he wishes.
As already noted, one cant have it both ways.
IMO, if you have a business that is open to the public, like a restaurant, then you can't discriminate. However if you have a business where it's an individual contract, like photography or in this case a commissioned cake, then you should be allowed to refuse service for any reason.
This is what happens when you live on the "left" coast.
Every facet of your life is controlled by some "feel good" or "that isn't fair" law.
I can't even imagine what it's like to live in those states that are so repressive and restrictive and controlling.
That's why there is such a split between public and private accommodation occurring. Make a law, someone is going to be creative enough to find a way around it. That's what happened in the old Soviet Union. There was the public service outlets and the private underground outlets that did a competent job.
It's happening every place. Not just the feel good coasts. Look at the number of "proms" that have cropped up. There is the school prom, but the real prom is private and by invitation only.
link?
This is what happens when you live on the "left" coast.
Every facet of your life is controlled by some "feel good" or "that isn't fair" law.
I can't even imagine what it's like to live in those states that are so repressive and restrictive and controlling.
That's why there is such a split between public and private accommodation occurring. Make a law, someone is going to be creative enough to find a way around it. That's what happened in the old Soviet Union. There was the public service outlets and the private underground outlets that did a competent job.
It's happening every place. Not just the feel good coasts. Look at the number of "proms" that have cropped up. There is the school prom, but the real prom is private and by invitation only.
link?
I have lived in the epi-center of the liberal loons of New England for the last 6 years.
When ever I am working around these Harvard educated nitwits.
I always pepper my speech with "ya all' and "I reckon so"
That coupled with my southern accent seems to drive them crazy.
It's great fun!!
Nonsense.IMO, if you have a business that is open to the public, like a restaurant, then you can't discriminate. However if you have a business where it's an individual contract, like photography or in this case a commissioned cake, then you should be allowed to refuse service for any reason.
Sorry, but this makes no sense.
A business is a business, whether one sells ready made products from a store shelf or provides services such as rug cleaning or baking specialty wedding cakes both are equally subject to a state's public accommodations law.
