Baltimore Cops Should Have Kicked Ass!

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Wednesday, April 29, 2015
Civilian Deaths and Maryland's Police Forces
With the unrest in Baltimore making headline news in recent days, I wanted to take a look at some background information on deaths in Maryland that are related to encounters with the state's various police forces. A recent briefing paper by the ACLU looks at the statistics on deaths in police encounters in Maryland between 2010 and 2014. Here are some of the highlights.
Let's open with this table showing the demographics of Maryland showing the ethnic and racial breakdown of the state:

Now, let's look at some of the statistics from the briefing paper:
1.) At least 109 people died in police encounters in Maryland over the years between 2010 and 2014. During the same time period, four police officers died in civilian encounters including two in vehicle pursuits, one was shot in a raid and one was shot when off-duty and working as a security guard

Viable Opposition Civilian Deaths and Maryland s Police Forces

So a little over a million a year? Chump change.

You pay it then

Nah...I like to think of it as a community effort.
Everyone pitching in to keep our streets safer....think of it as the collective doing the community a service if it makes you feel better.

Dont you have "chump change" to give?

 

[Sonny Clark]

In my opinion, citizens should arm themselves in a like manner. The "out-of-control" cops are taking their jobs to the extreme, in many ways. And, what's worse, all they have to say in order to walk is, "I feared for my life", "I feared for my safety", or "he was reaching for his waistband". Our judicial system shows tremendous bias and favoritism to cops, and other members of law enforcement. We have a system of injustice instead of justice. It's time to arrest, try, convict, and sentence cops for their obvious crimes. They get a free pass on murder, stealing, raping, taking bribes, planting evidence, lying in court, covering for other cops, destroying property, stealing and selling drugs, and other offenses they arrest John Q. Public for.

We need to see more cops in our prisons and jails, and by doing so, it'd send a very strong message to other cops that they must obey the same laws as everyone else has to obey. If you or I were to attack someone, beat and brutalize them, we'd go to jail in a heartbeat. If you or I were to shoot someone eight times in the back, we'd be serving time in the big house. If you or I were to break into the wrong house, shoot and kill a 92 year old lady, we'd get the death penalty. If you or I were to shoot and kill a 12 year old boy playing in the park, we'd get the death penalty. If you and I were to be caught on camera, along with 6 or 7 others, beating and kicking someone handcuffed, face down on the ground, we'd be put in jail, fined, and place on probation and have to do community service for a year.

Our problem is not young black males being at the wrong place at the wrong time, it's "out-of-control" cops filled with hate, prejudice, over-sized egos, and a license to basically do as they damn well please. And, our judicial system backs them up 99% of the time. Given a desk job and a paid vacation is really punishment, don't you think? In addition to getting a free pass by the judicial system, we have law enforcement investigating law enforcement when someone complains of wrong-doing by cops. That's the same as your brother doing the investigation if you're accused of a crime. We'd all like to have family and friends in charge of investigating should we be accused of wrong-doing.

Lets be honest here folks, the system is flawed, and recent events is a testament to the problems within law enforcement agencies. This has been going on for a very long time, but it's becoming a real issue since everyone is carrying a cell phone and can take real-time videos of cop misconduct. Cops are now being asked to wear body cameras, which is a great idea, and one that'll serve cops as well as the public. Also, dash cams in patrol cars are giving us better evidence of misconduct, and at the same time, serves as proof when cops are merely doing their job. Cameras can protect both the public and cops when questions are asked about encounters between law enforcement and the general public. We need to ensure the integrity of law enforcement, as well as ensure that citizens are protected against cop misconduct.

I'm embarrassed by the event in Maryland, and I'm ashamed they the world is watching this tragedy. We need to do a better job of ensuring justice and making members of law enforcement accountable for their actions. And, we need to severely punish those that loot, burn building and cars, and destroy property. They need to be placed behind bars for a very long time. I'm all for non-violent and peaceful protests, and we need to do a lot more of it in response to many issues. I'd like to see protests concerning government corruption, senseless deadly costly wars, the mistreatment of our Vets, the loss of privacy, and our growing poverty. But, we do NOT need looting, destruction of property, or violence to have our voices heard. We need to push back against oppression and the heavy hand of "out-of-control" members of law enforcement.

So you advocate violence to fight violence.....

Thanks for the input.

I'm totally against violence. And, if you'll take the time to read what I did say, you'll see that I'm against violence. Try reading comprehension, it might do you some good.

You said we should arm ourselves against the cops.

I'm more concerned about the government than the cops. We have a guy currently in the Oval Office that has more in common with those baggy pants criminals doing the looting than he does with us or the cops. He's instigated violence at every opportunity and covered it over with similarly false platitudes such as yours.

We have nothing to fear from the police unless we are trying to break the law. Break the law.....resist arrest.....show your ass to a cop....I would expect him to kick your ass. Without respect for authority all you have is anarchy. This is the transformation Obama spoke of for years. The revolution. A breakdown of society forcing a change. I've learned that change that isn't legitimate or is forced tends to be worse than change that happens naturally.

I did NOT say that we should arm ourselves against the cops. Here's what I did say, "In my opinion, citizens should arm themselves in a like manner." Again, try reading comprehension. The picture showed heavily armed cops. Everyone should be armed in a like manner. Try reading comprehension, please. I did NOT say that we should arm ourselves against cops.

You identified cops as the threat....after suggestions that we arm ourselves. My comprehension is on the money. You claim you want to lock up cops....but only after claiming everyone should buy riot gear (steel pots, gas-masks, and rifles with fixed bayonets) to protect themselves from renegade cops.

When in college I always scored in the upper 10% of reading comprehension BTW.

Very pathetic ... to say the least ...........simply pathetic ........ twisting what I say around to mean something else just doesn't do it. Try reading comprehension, it might help you. If you're going to quote me, please say exactly what I have said. And, please don't try to affix your own meaning and interpretation to what I say. Thanks.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Over $5.7 million has been paid out by Baltimore since 2011 in over 100 police brutality lawsuits. Victims of severe police brutality were mostly people of color and included a pregnant woman, a 65 year old church deacon, children, and an 87 year old grandmother.

Undue force - Sun Investigates - The Baltimore Sun
Visualize this steroid swollen Gorilla goon pounding away at an 87 year old Black grandmother

You do realize that is a very small number compared to other cities... As for pot busts....ask the black police chief why he is so racist

Why? Its obvious you want to ignore the systematic and go for the personal.

Yeah, lets ask the chief about being racist then....Thats actually as far as your thoughts go

Please...you have as much cred as Sharpton.....

You have all the cred of Michelle Bachmann who says Obama is responsible for Armageddon...

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

So you advocate violence to fight violence.....

Thanks for the input.

I'm totally against violence. And, if you'll take the time to read what I did say, you'll see that I'm against violence. Try reading comprehension, it might do you some good.

You said we should arm ourselves against the cops.

I'm more concerned about the government than the cops. We have a guy currently in the Oval Office that has more in common with those baggy pants criminals doing the looting than he does with us or the cops. He's instigated violence at every opportunity and covered it over with similarly false platitudes such as yours.

We have nothing to fear from the police unless we are trying to break the law. Break the law.....resist arrest.....show your ass to a cop....I would expect him to kick your ass. Without respect for authority all you have is anarchy. This is the transformation Obama spoke of for years. The revolution. A breakdown of society forcing a change. I've learned that change that isn't legitimate or is forced tends to be worse than change that happens naturally.

I did NOT say that we should arm ourselves against the cops. Here's what I did say, "In my opinion, citizens should arm themselves in a like manner." Again, try reading comprehension. The picture showed heavily armed cops. Everyone should be armed in a like manner. Try reading comprehension, please. I did NOT say that we should arm ourselves against cops.

You identified cops as the threat....after suggestions that we arm ourselves. My comprehension is on the money. You claim you want to lock up cops....but only after claiming everyone should buy riot gear (steel pots, gas-masks, and rifles with fixed bayonets) to protect themselves from renegade cops.

When in college I always scored in the upper 10% of reading comprehension BTW.

Very pathetic ... to say the least ...........simply pathetic ........ twisting what I say around to mean something else just doesn't do it. Try reading comprehension, it might help you. If you're going to quote me, please say exactly what I have said. And, please don't try to affix your own meaning and interpretation to what I say. Thanks.

That dude is a Gish Gallop specialist...jumps around to bloviate change the subject the old Gish Gallop

 

[Manonthestreet]

Over $5.7 million has been paid out by Baltimore since 2011 in over 100 police brutality lawsuits. Victims of severe police brutality were mostly people of color and included a pregnant woman, a 65 year old church deacon, children, and an 87 year old grandmoth
Undue force - Sun Investigates - The Baltimore Sun
Visualize this steroid swollen Gorilla goon pounding away at an 87 year old Black grandmother

You do realize that is a very small number compared to other cities... As for pot busts....ask the black police chief why he is so racist

Why? Its obvious you want to ignore the systematic and go for the personal.

Yeah, lets ask the chief about being racist then....Thats actually as far as your thoughts go

Please...you have as much cred as Sharpton.....

Did you just respond to the accusation of going ad hominem with another ad hominem?

Make it a double

Just the facts. Cry racist over everything and now you want to try to sound "reasonable," after the facts have become inconvenient

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

It's a vicious circle. Black mayors. Black police force. It wouldn't matter. other people, Vietnamese, Hungarians, Somalians , people that fled oppression they move on and get on with LIFE. American blacks are stuck in the past. Get over it. Grow up!

Do you think Cliven Bundy and the armed scofflaws in his ranch should "grow up" and stop claiming the US Government is not legitimate ?

Yes_____

No____

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Wednesday, April 29, 2015
Civilian Deaths and Maryland's Police Forces
With the unrest in Baltimore making headline news in recent days, I wanted to take a look at some background information on deaths in Maryland that are related to encounters with the state's various police forces. A recent briefing paper by the ACLU looks at the statistics on deaths in police encounters in Maryland between 2010 and 2014. Here are some of the highlights.
Let's open with this table showing the demographics of Maryland showing the ethnic and racial breakdown of the state:

Now, let's look at some of the statistics from the briefing paper:
1.) At least 109 people died in police encounters in Maryland over the years between 2010 and 2014. During the same time period, four police officers died in civilian encounters including two in vehicle pursuits, one was shot in a raid and one was shot when off-duty and working as a security guard

Viable Opposition Civilian Deaths and Maryland s Police Forces

So a little over a million a year? Chump change.

I defer to your knowledge of how chumps think....

To say you were easy to identify is an understatement....

You are the chump who thinks a million is "chump change" send me some of yours eh chumpy...folks like you go nuts if a woman raising kids gets an extra dollar in food stamps but since you are not just a chump but a shameless hypocrite you now call a million buck chump change ...chump

Than I would think you'd be seriously riled up over 18 trillion..
A million bucks is chump change when talking about the amount of money a city that size spends on a yearly basis.
And it's not the one dollar the welfare bum wants....it's the millions of welfare bums wanting it as well.
But you knew that...

 

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Over $5.7 million has been paid out by Baltimore since 2011 in over 100 police brutality lawsuits. Victims of severe police brutality were mostly people of color and included a pregnant woman, a 65 year old church deacon, children, and an 87 year old grandmoth
Undue force - Sun Investigates - The Baltimore Sun
Visualize this steroid swollen Gorilla goon pounding away at an 87 year old Black grandmother

You do realize that is a very small number compared to other cities... As for pot busts....ask the black police chief why he is so racist

Why? Its obvious you want to ignore the systematic and go for the personal.

Yeah, lets ask the chief about being racist then....Thats actually as far as your thoughts go

Please...you have as much cred as Sharpton.....

Did you just respond to the accusation of going ad hominem with another ad hominem?

Make it a double

Just the facts. Cry racist over everything and now you want to try to sound "reasonable," after the facts have become inconvenient

Those arent facts those are just personal attacks on something no one is talking about.

Its the equivalent of saying you hate Susan Summers and saying its a "fact" that I cant deal with

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Just the facts. Cry racist over everything and now you want to try to sound "reasonable," after the facts have become inconvenient

Do you believe it is reasonable for the Police to commit an aggravated assault on an 87 year old grandmother in her own home as the Baltimore Police did

Yes_____

No______

 

[Manonthestreet]

Least I give the Baltimore cops credit where it's due. Their payout for " brutality" are miniscule in this age of easy money claims.

 

[Manonthestreet]

I never said they were perfect

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Than I would think you'd be seriously riled up over 18 trillion..
A million bucks is chump change when talking about the amount of money a city that size spends on a yearly basis.
And it's not the one dollar the welfare bum wants....it's the millions of welfare bums wanting it as well.
But you knew that...

Take a look at the tactic used here ...it is "Gish Gallop" now he changes the subject to National debt....

 

[Manonthestreet]

Find me a dept who hasn't paid out....

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Least I give the Baltimore cops credit where it's due. Their payout for " brutality" are miniscule in this age of easy money claims.

I give the Rioters credit unlike the Baltimore Police they did not snap anyone's spine

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Find me a dept who hasn't paid out....

Exactly...lets accept abuse by the Nanny Police ..it is part of being American

 

[Manonthestreet]

BTW if pot is made legal, should carry warning label listing all the jobs you just disqualified yourself from.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Find me a dept who hasn't paid out....

Exactly...lets accept abuse by the Nanny Police ..it is part of being American

No its part of the human condition... Baltimore seems to be doing a better job than a lot of them. Try to give black leaders credit for something and ya still whine

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Than I would think you'd be seriously riled up over 18 trillion..
A million bucks is chump change when talking about the amount of money a city that size spends on a yearly basis.
And it's not the one dollar the welfare bum wants....it's the millions of welfare bums wanting it as well.
But you knew that...

Take a look at the tactic used here ...it is "Gish Gallop" now he changes the subject to National debt....

Just pointing out the hypocrisy that's so prevalent with you dems.
And go ahead and ignore anything you cant answer....that being your standard M.O. I probably pointed that out needlessly.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Here is an easier question...see the picture below

Given the picture above do you think the level of irresponsible law breaking threatening behavior exhibited by the Cliven Bundy Gang
is comparatively

1) as bad as the Baltimore rioters
2)not as bad as the Baltimore rioters

Have you seen any Baltimore rioter aiming weapons at Law enforcers

Yes____

No_____

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Than I would think you'd be seriously riled up over 18 trillion..
A million bucks is chump change when talking about the amount of money a city that size spends on a yearly basis.
And it's not the one dollar the welfare bum wants....it's the millions of welfare bums wanting it as well.
But you knew that...

Take a look at the tactic used here ...it is "Gish Gallop" now he changes the subject to National debt....

Just pointing out the hypocrisy that's so prevalent with you dems.
And go ahead and ignore anything you cant answer....that being your standard M.O. I probably pointed that out needlessly.

send me your chump change ... I ll save it for you