Banning Abortion- A fool's errand

[Frankeneinstein]

Wrong.

you again prove me right, see next quote for proof

If we delay pregnancies, then we have more time to ensure they are not a burden.

which proves my claim that this not about the welfare of the mother

Overpopulation is not just a total number,

then why did you even bother to bring it up

but the degree the next generation becomes a burden.

well put

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Quite the contrary, I never really claimed it was about "compassion". I point out it is because of pragmatism.

and I was pointing out that you were offering up proof that the white liberals were lying about their reason and even thanked you for outing them

If you outlaw abortions, you will either have to establish a police state regulating Gyno-Americans to second class citizenship, or you will have largely unworkable laws that no one obey. Using history as a guide, including extreme examples like the Philippines and Romania under Ceausescu (where he tried to outlaw all contraception to force Romania to increase her population) the latter is more likely to be the case.

And why are you telling me this?

So the question becomes, how many women do you want to maim to show your moral outrage about fetuses ending up in medical waste containers?

Depends on how many games of fetus basketball you want to play I guess...give me an example of my moral outrage joe, The outrage is all on you and I'm pro choice so you know there is nothing moral involved in my position

 

[JoeB131]

and I was pointing out that you were offering up proof that the white liberals were lying about their reason and even thanked you for outing them

I'm sure a lot of white liberals do support it for compassionate reasons. I'm not a liberal, I'm a pragmatist. I used to vote Republican until the religious zealots, gun fetishists and libertarian children took over the party.

And why are you telling me this?

Oh, I don't know, trying to actual reason with you, Corky. But we've established you have a learning disability, so that might be pointless.

Depends on how many games of fetus basketball you want to play I guess...give me an example of my moral outrage joe, The outrage is all on you and I'm pro choice so you know there is nothing moral involved in my position

Really, I thought you were upset that your fellow retards were being aborted.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

I'm sure a lot of white liberals do support it for compassionate reasons.

Even though you have proved otherwise

I'm not a liberal,

We suppose to believe all that lunacy is just an act?

I'm a pragmatist. I used to vote Republican until the religious zealots, gun fetishists and libertarian children took over the party.

when was that joe? now ya hand out hypodermic needles and preach the evil of balloons like the sane folk do?

Oh, I don't know, trying to actual reason with you, Corky.

keep trying you'll figure it out joe

But we've established you have a learning disability, so that might be pointless.

I see you are now entering into your field of expertise

Really, I thought you were upset that your fellow retards were being aborted.

joe, just go to the doctor and have that coat hanger removed from your head, you'll feel better.

 

[JoeB131]

when was that joe? now ya hand out hypodermic needles and preach the evil of balloons like the sane folk do?

I'd ask what the fuck you are talking about, Corky, but it's clear you are trolling.

Anyone else want to have a sensible conversation on this topic?

 

[Wyatt earp]

So the Supreme Court just overturned Roe v. Wade in the most cowardly way possible.

Of course, Roe was always based on some legal jiggery-pokery, in that it found a "right to privacy" that never really existed without addressing the issue of when life begins.

The reason why the court did this was because they knew the laws on the books in most states in 1973 were unworkable and had to go, because no one was following them. But like all failed ideas, this time will be different, the advocates say.

Okay, let's get real here.

For the anti-abortion crowd, what is your real solution? Are you going to put pregnant women under house arrest to make sure they don't get abortions? Or are you just going to overturn Roe v. Wade and pretend you accomplished something.

How about prostitution? Prostitution is illegal in 49 states. Yet it is believed that there are 1 million working prostitutes in the United States today, and you can find massage parlors, strip joints and escort services pretty easily.

Okay, how about alcohol? Remember prohibition? (Well, even I'm not *that* old.) Well guess what, that didn't stop people from drinking. People found all sorts of imaginative ways to get around that law, Al Capone was pretty much openly smuggling alcohol into the country or making it illegally and the only way the government actually got him was on income tax evasion.

How's that war on drugs working out for you? Well, not so well. According to estimates, 19.1 million Americans over the age of 12 have used drugs within the last 30 days. "Just Say No (not today)" We spend billions on it, lock up more people than any country in the world. Hey, how many drug users are you going to want to cut loose to make room for the abortion patients?


Now, taking all of these factors into account- Exactly what mechanism are you guys going to use to ban abortion? Because none of these other prohibitions seem to work terribly well, especially when law enforcement is already stretched pretty thin.

We have a prohibition on murder, yet people murder...


Your logic is fucking idiotic like normal meth head Joe.

 

[JoeB131]

We have a prohibition on murder, yet people murder...


Your logic is fucking idiotic like normal meth head Joe.

Put down the bottle.

Murders are actually RARE. Only 20,000 a year in a bad year.

The reason why murder laws work is that there is UNIVERSAL agreement murder is bad. People will report a murder, cops will investigate and arrest, prosecutors will prosecute and juries will convict.

The same cannot be said of abortion. Therefore, any prohibition on abortion would be unenforceable.

Citizens won't report, cops won't investigate, prosecutors won't indict and juries won't convict.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

I'd ask what the fuck you are talking about, Corky, but it's clear you are trolling.

TRANSLATION: OUCH! Good point

Anyone else want to have a sensible conversation on this topic?

lol...lemme know how many takers ya get...
not many sensible folks are polished in the art of slam dunking babies joe

 

[JoeB131]

lol...lemme know how many takers ya get...
not many sensible folks are polished in the art of slam dunking babies joe

Aborted Fetuses aren't babies... they are medical waste.

THREE POINTS!!!!

 

[Wyatt earp]

Put down the bottle.

Murders are actually RARE. Only 20,000 a year in a bad year.

The reason why murder laws work is that there is UNIVERSAL agreement murder is bad. People will report a murder, cops will investigate and arrest, prosecutors will prosecute and juries will convict.

The same cannot be said of abortion. Therefore, any prohibition on abortion would be unenforceable.

Citizens won't report, cops won't investigate, prosecutors won't indict and juries won't convict.

Lmfao Asshole Chicago alone averages about 600 murders a fucking year

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Aborted Fetuses aren't babies... they are medical waste.

THREE POINTS!!!!

The sensible folks should be flooding in now joe...

Liberal tupperware.."don't be caught dead without it!"

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Lmfao Asshole Chicago alone averages about 600 murders a fucking year

In the liberal world that qualifies as rare

 

[Wyatt earp]

In the liberal world that qualifies as rare

The odds of being murdered in the USA 1 in 19,000 and meth head Joe says it's rare


No wonder why the left is so bad at economics and math

 

[JoeB131]

Lmfao Asshole Chicago alone averages about 600 murders a fucking year

In the liberal world that qualifies as rare

600 murders out of 3 million people.

As opposed to one out of three pregnancies ending in abortion.

 

[Wyatt earp]

600 murders out of 3 million people.

As opposed to one out of three pregnancies ending in abortion.

That works out to 28 people being killed per 100,000 that's not rare shit for brains, it's so common it doesn't even get air time on the nightly news

 

[JoeB131]

That works out to 28 people being killed per 100,000 that's not rare shit for brains, it's so common it doesn't even get air time on the nightly news

The point is, it's not as common as abortion. If we need to spend X to prosecute murders, even though there are only 20K of them, how are you going to prevent/punish 800,000 abortions?

 

[Wyatt earp]

The point is, it's not as common as abortion. If we need to spend X to prosecute murders, even though there are only 20K of them, how are you going to prevent/punish 800,000 abortions?

No one is going to do that except maybe in Mayberry, and abortion won't be illegal in the USA only at the state level.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

600 murders out of 3 million people.


As opposed to one out of three pregnancies ending in abortion.

So no big deal to you?

 

[JoeB131]

So no big deal to you?

Not sure why I'll try to engage your trolling.

Yup, murder is a big deal. Which is why we need sensible gun control, poverty relief programs, treating addiction as a medical issue instead of a criminal one, etc.

Abortion, not a big deal because at the end of the day, if a woman doesn't want to be pregnant, she'll find a way to not be pregnant.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Not sure why I'll try to engage your trolling.

Yup, murder is a big deal. Which is why we need sensible gun control, poverty relief programs, treating addiction as a medical issue instead of a criminal one, etc.

Abortion, not a big deal because at the end of the day, if a woman doesn't want to be pregnant, she'll find a way to not be pregnant.

So you think killing the next Micheal Jordan or Einstein is no big deal?