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The federal government wants to regulate your sugar and salt intake. Marijuana is certainly a reasonable substance to regulate by that standard. Your weak arguments about marijuana not killing you it was the fall or the car crash is laughable. Sort of like saying the heart attack killed you, not the excess weigh, smoking, lack of exercise and so on. They are called contributing factors folks.
The premise of the thread is false. It is also interesting to see how unmellow you stoners are when it comes to discussing this issue. It is illegal for good reason. Take your energy and passion using it to end cigarette use and limit alcohol use. That would be far more helpful and productive.
the govt does not have the constitutional powers to make alcohol, cigarettes or marijuana illegal....what they have done, is unconstitutional....they used back door methods to make marijuana illegal....they said it was still legal, but you had to buy a tax stamp to distribute it, then when doctors applied for the tax stamp to prescribe it, the gvt had no tax stamps to purchase....they never printed any....they killed marijuana's legality, over night.
the companies like cocacola and Hearst Paper and the alcohol industry lobbied hard to ban it because marijuana was competition to them....hemp paper, what the original bible text was printed on, was huge competition for Hearst, who owned newspapers and magazines and had just bought huge tracks of forest and a paper company....
On top of this, there was racism....the religious said that marijuana made mexican men rape white women....
HEMP, marijuana, was required BY LAW for every plantation in the south to grow...the colonies needed the rope made from it, to operate their new vessels they were building....Jefferson owned sever Hemp plantations.
Please watch the History Channel's, "History of illegal Drugs" documentary.
Of course they are. You don't see many people clamoring for Nicotine-less smokes, do you?
Here's how I see the difference:
Alcohol is addictive to the point that addicts are in danger of dying during withdrawal. It impairs the senses and judgment and kills brains cells. It also destroys the liver. You can overdose on alcohol.
Cigarettes are highly addictive and highly carcinogenic to virtually every tissue in the body. Even if you avoid cancer, they destroy lung tissue and your odds of getting COPD are high, which is a progressively fatal condition that will have you in the hospital several times a year for COPD exacerbation until it contributes to your death in some manner or the other.
Pot is not physiologically addictive, impairs the senses and alters judgment. You can't overdose on it, but the long term effects on the body are not well studied/known. There is some evidence to suggest it might trigger schizophrenia in persons who are habitual users who are predispositioned to it.
They are just reporting the results of a scientific study (n = 523 this time as opposed to 10 on the last study).
Cannabis-induced psychosis and subsequent schizoph... [Br J Psychiatry. 2005] - PubMed result
I'd be inclined to wave it off too, except I just got off a rotation where a patient who was a chronic MJ smoker started to manifest psychosis and other s/s of schizophrenia. I am not sure what the final conclusion was.
THC is not physically addictive.
Period. Repeated clinical studies have established that fact.
Yawn.
This took all of 15 seconds. The internet is great.
Marijuana Smokers Face Rapid Lung Destruction -- As Much As 20 Years Ahead Of Tobacco Smokers
That study was conducted with a sample of 10 patients. This is not a misprint.
Bullous lung disease due to marijuana
HII SW, TAM JDC, THOMPSON BR, NAUGHTON MT. Respirology 2008; 13: 122-127 Background and objective: 
In contrast to the well-described effects of tobacco smoking upon pulmonary emphysema, with ∼15% of smokers being affected at the age of 65 years, the effects of marijuana smoking are rarely reported and poorly understood. Methods: 
We report a series of 10 patients (mean age 41 ± 9 years, eight male, two female), who presented over a period of 12 months to our respiratory unit with new respiratory symptoms, and who admitted to regular chronic marijuana smoking (>1 year continuously). Symptoms on presentation were dyspnoea (n = 4), pneumothorax (n = 4) and chest infection (n = 2). Results: 
Would suck to be one of them.
They are just reporting the results of a scientific study (n = 523 this time as opposed to 10 on the last study).
Cannabis-induced psychosis and subsequent schizoph... [Br J Psychiatry. 2005] - PubMed result
I'd be inclined to wave it off too, except I just got off a rotation where a patient who was a chronic MJ smoker started to manifest psychosis and other s/s of schizophrenia. I am not sure what the final conclusion was.
The federal government wants to regulate your sugar and salt intake. Marijuana is certainly a reasonable substance to regulate by that standard. Your weak arguments about marijuana not killing you it was the fall or the car crash is laughable. Sort of like saying the heart attack killed you, not the excess weigh, smoking, lack of exercise and so on. They are called contributing factors folks.
The premise of the thread is false. It is also interesting to see how unmellow you stoners are when it comes to discussing this issue. It is illegal for good reason. Take your energy and passion using it to end cigarette use and limit alcohol use. That would be far more helpful and productive.
I suggest you read what you post and revise it.
1. The federal government did not ban sugar or salt. Buy as much as you want at the market and stuff yourself.
2. MJ is not regulated (as is alcohol); MJ is a schedule I drug.
3. A queston is not a premise.
4. As a non-stoner, you also seem to be unmellow.
5. List the good reasons for it being 'illegal'.
It seems to me that lots of people want to justify their addiction to marijuana by saying it's harmless, or less harmful than alcohol or cigarettes. Simply put, lie to yourselves if you must - take whatever drug you feel inclined to.... but.... don't affect me and mine. I'm sick and tired of my family being impacted by the selfish stupidity of others. You want to affect your brain, body and kill yourselves. Absolutely fine and dandy. Just don't kill someone else while your doing it. Thanks.
Since your drug of choice is alcohol how are you any better? Have you ever driven after drinking any alcohol? Then you have put society in as much danger, if not more, than a pot smoker.
It seems to me that lots of people want to justify their addiction to marijuana by saying it's harmless, or less harmful than alcohol or cigarettes. Simply put, lie to yourselves if you must - take whatever drug you feel inclined to.... but.... don't affect me and mine. I'm sick and tired of my family being impacted by the selfish stupidity of others. You want to affect your brain, body and kill yourselves. Absolutely fine and dandy. Just don't kill someone else while your doing it. Thanks.
Since your drug of choice is alcohol how are you any better? Have you ever driven after drinking any alcohol? Then you have put society in as much danger, if not more, than a pot smoker.
I drink about three times a year, if that. And by 'drink', I mean I have a couple - never get get hammered.
I have never, in my life, gotten into the drivers seat of any car.
Personally, I'd like to see the death penalty for any driver who kills someone whilst under the influence of drink or drugs.
THC is not physically addictive.
BULLSHIT
Period. Repeated clinical studies have established that fact.
Then their subjects didn't smoke as much dope as me. I had to quit once, and I had mild anxiety for like two weeks.
If you want to get down to "facts" on this subject, none of the three things mentioned are any good for you the way MOST people actually use them. To see them go on and on about the burden they bear from the laws is quite immature and selfish as near as I can see.
Your handle is 'saveliberty' - what a fucking hypocrite you are. What you mean is "save MY liberty and FUCK everyone else's"
Since your drug of choice is alcohol how are you any better? Have you ever driven after drinking any alcohol? Then you have put society in as much danger, if not more, than a pot smoker.
I drink about three times a year, if that. And by 'drink', I mean I have a couple - never get get hammered.
What the fuck do you do then?
I have never, in my life, gotten into the drivers seat of any car.
THANK SWEET LORD JESUS. There's no telling how many lives you've saved already. Keep it up!
Personally, I'd like to see the death penalty for any driver who kills someone whilst under the influence of drink or drugs.
Because when people kill out of negligence - they should be put down like dogs
When corporations kill out of negligence - we should buy more of their products to help them out.
They are just reporting the results of a scientific study (n = 523 this time as opposed to 10 on the last study).
Cannabis-induced psychosis and subsequent schizoph... [Br J Psychiatry. 2005] - PubMed result
I'd be inclined to wave it off too, except I just got off a rotation where a patient who was a chronic MJ smoker started to manifest psychosis and other s/s of schizophrenia. I am not sure what the final conclusion was.
That's not true. Schizophrenia typically manifests between 18-35 years of age.
I drink about three times a year, if that. And by 'drink', I mean I have a couple - never get get hammered.
I have never, in my life, gotten into the drivers seat of any car. I don't drink - not even one - if I'm driving. I know only too well what happens when people drink and drive, thanks. Personally, I'd like to see the death penalty for any driver who kills someone whilst under the influence of drink or drugs.
Pardon me!!
I had no idea 18 & 19 didn't qualify as "teens".
Why are two of the above legal but the one isn't?
- 75000 die a year from alcohol related incidents.
- 0 die a year from Marijuana related incidents.
Why the hell can you drink as much alcohol as you want in America but a person can't smoke a joint without worrying about doing jail time? Simple question, please answer to the point.
Get your facts straight and then maybe we can talk. No one died from a marijuana related incident? Really? Link please.
I drink about three times a year, if that. And by 'drink', I mean I have a couple - never get get hammered.
What the fuck do you do then?
THANK SWEET LORD JESUS. There's no telling how many lives you've saved already. Keep it up!
Personally, I'd like to see the death penalty for any driver who kills someone whilst under the influence of drink or drugs.
Because when people kill out of negligence - they should be put down like dogs
When corporations kill out of negligence - we should buy more of their products to help them out.
I am happy with my life, I don't need to 'escape' from reality with drink or drugs.
Driving under the influence is not 'negligence', it is premeditated murder. They are aware of the risk to others and choose to do it anyway. So, yep, they should be put down....
I drink about three times a year, if that. And by 'drink', I mean I have a couple - never get get hammered.
I have never, in my life, gotten into the drivers seat of any car. I don't drink - not even one - if I'm driving. I know only too well what happens when people drink and drive, thanks. Personally, I'd like to see the death penalty for any driver who kills someone whilst under the influence of drink or drugs.
Fair enough. The buzz on the board led me to believe you liked to drink frequently. I am not judgmental about that, as I like to drink. Frequently.
As I said, your drug of choice is alcohol, whether you use it frequently or infrequently.
Because I joke about alcohol, that means I drink regularly? How stupid.
I go months without drinking. I did drugs exactly once in my like - didn't like it so ain't doing it.
