Bernie Sanders does not understand economics

[ScienceRocks]

in the past 50 years, the U.S. economy functioned best under which administration?

Clinton

Worst administrations?

Ford, Carter, George W. Bush

All sucked, career politicians... Lowest of life forms

Stop talking about yourself. Merry christmas!

 

[ScienceRocks]

But running out of other peoples money is not a problem anymore.

Have you ever heard of the Fed?

Have you heard of the National Debt?

Have you heard of the National Debt?

Hell yea.

3.2 trillion from non revenue and none job creating Tax Cuts passed by reconciliation.

At least 3 trillion from two wars that went on over a decade.

Who knows how much rebuilding Iraq after we flattened it.

The cost of taking care of more than 30,000 Iraq maimed Americans costing trillions into the future.

The taxes lost from millions of jobs moving to China from 2001 to 2008.

The revenue lost from the more than 40,000 factories closed from 2001 to 2008.

Medicare party D passed though reconciliation costing more than a trillion.

The damage to our gulf coast decades into the future while some protect the perpetrators.

The cost of rebuilding our infrastructure since it was neglected while our money was being spent in the ME.

The damage into the future because we have been defunding our schools.

See, we know the debt. No doubt about it.

What was the NATIONAL DEBT when the Manchurian muslim became president?...You really are as dumb as your father, Howard!

Well, let's take a look at what Obama was handed.

3.2 trillion from non revenue and none job creating Tax Cuts passed by reconciliation. You can't deny that.

At least 3 trillion from two wars that went on over a decade. The cost was not added to the deficit when Obama was sworn in. It was never added to any Bush budget. You know that too.

Who knows how much rebuilding Iraq after we flattened it. Never added to the budget under Bush.

The cost of taking care of more than 30,000 Iraq maimed Americans costing trillions into the future. We don't know the cost. Most of these people were maimed before 2009.

The taxes lost from millions of jobs moving to China from 2001 to 2008. The revenue lost from the more than 40,000 factories closed from 2001 to 2008. That revenue was gone. Gone, Gone. And then handed to Obama.Even the factories gone. How is it supposed to come back. Republicans made sure it wouldn't.

Medicare party D passed though reconciliation costing more than a trillion. Republicans used reconciliation three times under Bush. Do you even know what for?

The damage to our gulf coast decades into the future while some protect the perpetrators. Republicans blocked Obama from using subpoena power. They protected BP over America for months. It's public record.

The cost of rebuilding our infrastructure since it was neglected while our money was being spent in the ME. The GOP still blocks anything to rebuild this country. Why? I don't know. Perhaps you could explain.

The damage into the future because we have been defunding our schools. And the reason they say is because our schools are crappy. So they can't complain when companies with Republican CEO's want educated immigrants over the GOP base.

So there you go. What part is wrong? What has Obama been spending money on?

All for not, the debt is more than we can pay. He's a career politician... Lowest of life forms.

5 trillion dollars in nation building in the middle east
Trillions of dollars worth of tax breaks for the rich
95% of this debt isn't even caused by things that produce like infrastructure, science, r&d and education. Of course, some back woods hick like you probably has a giant boner at the idea of taking the entire effin country to the level of somalia.

 

[ScienceRocks]

But running out of other peoples money is not a problem anymore.

Have you ever heard of the Fed?

Have you heard of the National Debt?

Have you heard of the National Debt?

Hell yea.

3.2 trillion from non revenue and none job creating Tax Cuts passed by reconciliation.

At least 3 trillion from two wars that went on over a decade.

Who knows how much rebuilding Iraq after we flattened it.

The cost of taking care of more than 30,000 Iraq maimed Americans costing trillions into the future.

The taxes lost from millions of jobs moving to China from 2001 to 2008.

The revenue lost from the more than 40,000 factories closed from 2001 to 2008.

Medicare party D passed though reconciliation costing more than a trillion.

The damage to our gulf coast decades into the future while some protect the perpetrators.

The cost of rebuilding our infrastructure since it was neglected while our money was being spent in the ME.

The damage into the future because we have been defunding our schools.

See, we know the debt. No doubt about it. We even know where it came from and what caused it. It's public record. Only tards don't know how we got it.

Great post rdean!! Yet, all they can whine about is how evil paving a road is or educating a child. That is what they bitch about even through it never has caused it debt problems.

Do I want to balance the budget? YES I DO. I'd cut the millitary 50 billion, repeal the tax cuts, close the loop holes and demand a invisgation into government waste. I'd then work to cut 200 billion dollars of bs.

 

[Campbell]

The reason that debt is there is because of Reagan/Bushes tax cuts for the wealthy:

..........................Total U S Debt...........................

09/30/2014 $17,824,071,380,733.82
09/30/2013 $16,738,183,526,697.32
09/30/2012 $16,066,241,407,385.89
09/30/2011 $14,790,340,328,557.15
09/30/2010 $13,561,623,030,891.79
09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)
09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accommodate Tens of Trillions)
09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)
09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)
09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32
09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38 ( Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41) (Clinton raised tax rates)
09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00
09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)(Reagan Slashed Tax Rates To Pre Depression Levels)
09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

 

[Rustic]

So just always leave it to the free market. Like health insurance. We pay the the highest amount by far for mediocre health care and below average results. The market works fine for some things but not for everything. I do have an economics degree. Hate on.

Sanders was merely saying that interest rates are historically low but not for student loans. He wants to invest in the education of young people. Personally, I don't so much, because I'm older and there is no free lunch and I don't want to pay higher taxes for schools that have a huge amount of administrative bloat.

You made a lot of statements but didn't back anything up with data or statistics. Do you know how to use Google? Schools for instance. What "administrative bloat" are you talking about? Do you have links or numbers? Do you think health care costs were going up slower before Obamacare?

Obamacare is legalized extortion... Controlled by control freaks

And that is why most of the civilized first world uses single payer and not our bs capitalist system that allows people to die. That is why most of the world regulates their healthcare system not to allow such price hiking as we do.

What about the people that want nothing to do with Obamacare/single payer shit?? That don't want to being forced into a socialist "system" they will never use or need??

 

[Rustic]

Have you heard of the National Debt?

Have you heard of the National Debt?

Hell yea.

3.2 trillion from non revenue and none job creating Tax Cuts passed by reconciliation.

At least 3 trillion from two wars that went on over a decade.

Who knows how much rebuilding Iraq after we flattened it.

The cost of taking care of more than 30,000 Iraq maimed Americans costing trillions into the future.

The taxes lost from millions of jobs moving to China from 2001 to 2008.

The revenue lost from the more than 40,000 factories closed from 2001 to 2008.

Medicare party D passed though reconciliation costing more than a trillion.

The damage to our gulf coast decades into the future while some protect the perpetrators.

The cost of rebuilding our infrastructure since it was neglected while our money was being spent in the ME.

The damage into the future because we have been defunding our schools.

See, we know the debt. No doubt about it.

What was the NATIONAL DEBT when the Manchurian muslim became president?...You really are as dumb as your father, Howard!

Well, let's take a look at what Obama was handed.

3.2 trillion from non revenue and none job creating Tax Cuts passed by reconciliation. You can't deny that.

At least 3 trillion from two wars that went on over a decade. The cost was not added to the deficit when Obama was sworn in. It was never added to any Bush budget. You know that too.

Who knows how much rebuilding Iraq after we flattened it. Never added to the budget under Bush.

The cost of taking care of more than 30,000 Iraq maimed Americans costing trillions into the future. We don't know the cost. Most of these people were maimed before 2009.

The taxes lost from millions of jobs moving to China from 2001 to 2008. The revenue lost from the more than 40,000 factories closed from 2001 to 2008. That revenue was gone. Gone, Gone. And then handed to Obama.Even the factories gone. How is it supposed to come back. Republicans made sure it wouldn't.

Medicare party D passed though reconciliation costing more than a trillion. Republicans used reconciliation three times under Bush. Do you even know what for?

The damage to our gulf coast decades into the future while some protect the perpetrators. Republicans blocked Obama from using subpoena power. They protected BP over America for months. It's public record.

The cost of rebuilding our infrastructure since it was neglected while our money was being spent in the ME. The GOP still blocks anything to rebuild this country. Why? I don't know. Perhaps you could explain.

The damage into the future because we have been defunding our schools. And the reason they say is because our schools are crappy. So they can't complain when companies with Republican CEO's want educated immigrants over the GOP base.

So there you go. What part is wrong? What has Obama been spending money on?

All for not, the debt is more than we can pay. He's a career politician... Lowest of life forms.

5 trillion dollars in nation building in the middle east
Trillions of dollars worth of tax breaks for the rich
95% of this debt isn't even caused by things that produce like infrastructure, science, r&d and education. Of course, some back woods hick like you probably has a giant boner at the idea of taking the entire effin country to the level of somalia.

Trillions of dollars wasted on socialist entitlement programs...

 

[guno]

 

[Rustic]

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...and career politicians are everyone's heroes

 

[jon_berzerk]

No matter what he says. He won't attack da' Beast. He done. Kinda like a Socialist version of Juan McCain. As long as those senate checks clear....................its all good.

or is mccain as socialist version of sanders

they seem to have similar orbits

--LOL

 

[Kosh]

Have you heard of the National Debt?

Have you heard of the National Debt?

Hell yea.

3.2 trillion from non revenue and none job creating Tax Cuts passed by reconciliation.

At least 3 trillion from two wars that went on over a decade.

Who knows how much rebuilding Iraq after we flattened it.

The cost of taking care of more than 30,000 Iraq maimed Americans costing trillions into the future.

The taxes lost from millions of jobs moving to China from 2001 to 2008.

The revenue lost from the more than 40,000 factories closed from 2001 to 2008.

Medicare party D passed though reconciliation costing more than a trillion.

The damage to our gulf coast decades into the future while some protect the perpetrators.

The cost of rebuilding our infrastructure since it was neglected while our money was being spent in the ME.

The damage into the future because we have been defunding our schools.

See, we know the debt. No doubt about it.

What was the NATIONAL DEBT when the Manchurian muslim became president?...You really are as dumb as your father, Howard!

Well, let's take a look at what Obama was handed.

3.2 trillion from non revenue and none job creating Tax Cuts passed by reconciliation. You can't deny that.

At least 3 trillion from two wars that went on over a decade. The cost was not added to the deficit when Obama was sworn in. It was never added to any Bush budget. You know that too.

Who knows how much rebuilding Iraq after we flattened it. Never added to the budget under Bush.

The cost of taking care of more than 30,000 Iraq maimed Americans costing trillions into the future. We don't know the cost. Most of these people were maimed before 2009.

The taxes lost from millions of jobs moving to China from 2001 to 2008. The revenue lost from the more than 40,000 factories closed from 2001 to 2008. That revenue was gone. Gone, Gone. And then handed to Obama.Even the factories gone. How is it supposed to come back. Republicans made sure it wouldn't.

Medicare party D passed though reconciliation costing more than a trillion. Republicans used reconciliation three times under Bush. Do you even know what for?

The damage to our gulf coast decades into the future while some protect the perpetrators. Republicans blocked Obama from using subpoena power. They protected BP over America for months. It's public record.

The cost of rebuilding our infrastructure since it was neglected while our money was being spent in the ME. The GOP still blocks anything to rebuild this country. Why? I don't know. Perhaps you could explain.

The damage into the future because we have been defunding our schools. And the reason they say is because our schools are crappy. So they can't complain when companies with Republican CEO's want educated immigrants over the GOP base.

So there you go. What part is wrong? What has Obama been spending money on?

All for not, the debt is more than we can pay. He's a career politician... Lowest of life forms.

5 trillion dollars in nation building in the middle east
Trillions of dollars worth of tax breaks for the rich
95% of this debt isn't even caused by things that produce like infrastructure, science, r&d and education. Of course, some back woods hick like you probably has a giant boner at the idea of taking the entire effin country to the level of somalia.

See now the far left drones post invalid data based on their religious dogma..

These same drones that complain about such things will always vote worse than Bush..

 

[Kosh]

The reason that debt is there is because of Reagan/Bushes tax cuts for the wealthy:

..........................Total U S Debt...........................

09/30/2014 $17,824,071,380,733.82
09/30/2013 $16,738,183,526,697.32
09/30/2012 $16,066,241,407,385.89
09/30/2011 $14,790,340,328,557.15
09/30/2010 $13,561,623,030,891.79
09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)
09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accommodate Tens of Trillions)
09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)
09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)
09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32
09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38 ( Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41) (Clinton raised tax rates)
09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00
09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)(Reagan Slashed Tax Rates To Pre Depression Levels)
09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

The numbers may be correct but the far left commentary next to them are not even close..

 

[2aguy]

of course he doesn't...he is a socialist........

 

[Campbell]

The reason that debt is there is because of Reagan/Bushes tax cuts for the wealthy:

..........................Total U S Debt...........................

09/30/2014 $17,824,071,380,733.82
09/30/2013 $16,738,183,526,697.32
09/30/2012 $16,066,241,407,385.89
09/30/2011 $14,790,340,328,557.15
09/30/2010 $13,561,623,030,891.79
09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)
09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accommodate Tens of Trillions)
09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)
09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)
09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32
09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38 ( Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41) (Clinton raised tax rates)
09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00
09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)(Reagan Slashed Tax Rates To Pre Depression Levels)
09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

The numbers may be correct but the far left commentary next to them are not even close..

Disprove a single one. All the figures came from the bureau of the debt. You people watch too much Fox and right wing Republican lies.

 

[Flash]

Of course, he understands the economics of what he's saying. Higher taxes on the wealthy to start when that doesn't handle his free everything then the hikes move down to the middle class. Its all about more government.

The top 20% controls 87% of the wealth. They can afford to pay more in taxes.

We had our greatest prosperity between 1945 and 1980, when the rich paid 93% to 70% top marginal rates.

The top 20% also pay 80% of that trillion a year in income tax. The top 2% pays 50% of it. "The rich" also pays the bulk of the state income tax and property tax in the US.

When is enough going to be enough for you greedy bastards who thinks the government should steal from other to pay your bills?

Who in the hell are you to think you are entitled to the money that other people makes?

 

[Wilbur Right]

Evidently he has no clue how collateral works, the man is obviously a few cards shy on the ole economic deck. A home has actual value...a women's study degree? Not so much. The man is running on an economics platform? Scary shit

Uh, Fat Irish Sow, the last FIVE recessions have been on Republican Watches. I don't think you guys really can argue on economics.

Thanks Joe.

Fucking Republicans havent got a clue as to how to grow the economy for everyone.

Republican politicians couldnt run a successful lemonade stand.

But they sure can run their mouths.

 

[Wilbur Right]

Of course, he understands the economics of what he's saying. Higher taxes on the wealthy to start when that doesn't handle his free everything then the hikes move down to the middle class. Its all about more government.

The top 20% controls 87% of the wealth. They can afford to pay more in taxes.

We had our greatest prosperity between 1945 and 1980, when the rich paid 93% to 70% top marginal rates.

The top 20% also pay 80% of that trillion a year in income tax. The top 2% pays 50% of it. "The rich" also pays the bulk of the state income tax and property tax in the US.

When is enough going to be enough for you greedy bastards who thinks the government should steal from other to pay your bills?

Who in the hell are you to think you are entitled to the money that other people makes?

Just think Flashy (if that is possible) If the ultra wealthy had ALL the money they could pay ALL the taxes.

Stupid fuck, of course the wealthy pay a lot in taxes. They have the most income and the most income gains.

 

[initforme]

Why is there such an utter dislike of workers here?

The overwhelming sentiment is

1) modt workers are overpaid.. They are rarely worth their wage.
2). They should not have any benefits. Even sick days are bad.
3). They are not as productive nor do they work as hard as they used to.
4) they don't need a college education they just need to be willing to work hard.
5) and the grand daddy of them all...a person can live comfortably on $12 per hour.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Evidently he has no clue how collateral works, the man is obviously a few cards shy on the ole economic deck. A home has actual value...a women's study degree? Not so much. The man is running on an economics platform? Scary shit

Uh, Fat Irish Sow, the last FIVE recessions have been on Republican Watches. I don't think you guys really can argue on economics.

Thanks Joe.

Fucking Republicans havent got a clue as to how to grow the economy for everyone.

Republican politicians couldnt run a successful lemonade stand.

But they sure can run their mouths.

Yeah but we know a secured loan gets lower interest rates than unsecured. Sanders is a clueless dumb ass, he spews BS about things he knows little of. Free stuff for everybody!!!!!!!.....NOTHING is ever free

 

[Iceweasel]

If government started backing and supplying home loans for the asking, home prices would skyrocket, along with the interest rates. But Bernie is a socialist, he shouldn't have to pay for anything.

 

[Iceweasel]

Why is there such an utter dislike of workers here?

The overwhelming sentiment is

1) modt workers are overpaid.. They are rarely worth their wage.
2). They should not have any benefits. Even sick days are bad.
3). They are not as productive nor do they work as hard as they used to.
4) they don't need a college education they just need to be willing to work hard.
5) and the grand daddy of them all...a person can live comfortably on $12 per hour.

Who said those things? What I see a lot is lefties simply can grasp the meaning of words if they don't already believe them.