Bernie wants a $7.20 minimum wage

[pknopp]

The military is a part of the problem. We have spent trillions dropping bombs to then have to rebuild what we destroyed. We then complain that our infrastructure is failing. Really, you don't see that as a problem?

War spend is an issue but now we are pot committed because of Bush and I did not vote for him. I was first eligible to vote in 2000 and voted for Gore. Actually if Clinton had the balls to kill Bin Laden then 9/11 tragedy likely doesn’t happen. Shame on Clinton and shame on Bush. Obama inherited a shit storm and Trump did as well. Endless wars are terrible. Tulsi Gabbard is right and her party buried her.

I initially supported Gabbard. I'd love to see Sanders pick her as his VP. We are NOT committed to the wars. Your argument boils down to the idea that we can not afford to see that people can get health care when needed because we have to waste trillions on never ending wars.

No, I totally reject that.

Wars will never end. The Book of Revelations, Daniel, Isaiah, Ezekiel all tell you that as we approach the time of AntiChrist that there will be wars and rumors of wars.

All your efforts to stop these wars are silly.

The Battle of Armageddon will occur and nothing you can do to stop it. Socialism-Globalism will only accelerate things and will make matters worse.

Things like Freedom of Religion. Free Speech, Freedom of thought and action, and standing up for what is good and wholesome and proper may delay Judgement.

Global Warming is a joke. The Judgments Coming at the end times are 1,000 times worse than anything in these Global Warming Nuts imaginations. You aren't stopping that either.

The Earth and all the wicked works in it, and every building made by man will be destroyed at the end of the age, and the Earth will be burned by fire, and remade in to a garden of Eden for The People of God to live upon.

The only things you can do that will last forever are the things you do in Spirit and the choice you make on where to spend eternity.

Enslaving people with Socialism only hastens The End of The Age.

If your argument is that we will always be war mongers I am fine with hastening the end of the age.

He said there will always be wars. We should have never gone into Iraq. That was stupid. Iran and Iraq fighting each other was fantastic. Idiots killing idiots.

Let them fight. That's not my argument. There is nothing we can do about that. In one breath you argue we shouldn't have done something but in the next you argue it's good for creating jobs.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Give me a better option. Bernie isn’t it. I do not like or agree with Socialism.

I was just told in another discussion that you are full of crap by saying it's socialism. All the same, you do.

What other discussion? Sanders is an open socialist. You’re trying to take the debate sideways because you lost.

Democratic Socialist.

Democratic socialists believe that both the economy and society should be run democratically—to meet public needs, not to make profits for a few.

What is Democratic Socialism? - Democratic Socialists of America (DSA)

1) Sanders doesn’t have a concrete plan to pay for his wishful Socialist ideas.

2) Military spend creates millions of jobs and is innovative.

How are we going to pay for it? As an aside, you are arguing to kill tens of thousands of innocent people to create jobs. That is a thoroughly disgusting position to take.

3) It’s not Trumps fault we are stuck in endless wars. He has tried to pull out but his generals suggest otherwise.

It's his call. He is the president. It's sad how nothing is ever his fault.

4) Banks did repay TARP. You said they didn’t.

No, I said it was paid back with other government programs that were never paid back.

5) Entitlement spend is the real issue.


Anything I missed?

Lots.

Banks paid everything back and more and there is zero democratic about Socialism and Sanders is a communist anyway. You’re just making stuff up now. I work in the banking market and banks have repaid all their capital injections with interest and quicker than initially anticipated.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...02fb50-572a-11ea-8753-73d96000faae_story.html

Bernie Sanders in 1972: 'I Don't Mind People ... Calling Me a Communist'

I explained how it was paid back. You refuse to acknowledge that.

It was paid back with debt and equity issuances aka the private sector. You don’t need to explain anything to me. Banks are vital to the US. They are our engine to economic success.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

War spend is an issue but now we are pot committed because of Bush and I did not vote for him. I was first eligible to vote in 2000 and voted for Gore. Actually if Clinton had the balls to kill Bin Laden then 9/11 tragedy likely doesn’t happen. Shame on Clinton and shame on Bush. Obama inherited a shit storm and Trump did as well. Endless wars are terrible. Tulsi Gabbard is right and her party buried her.

I initially supported Gabbard. I'd love to see Sanders pick her as his VP. We are NOT committed to the wars. Your argument boils down to the idea that we can not afford to see that people can get health care when needed because we have to waste trillions on never ending wars.

No, I totally reject that.

Wars will never end. The Book of Revelations, Daniel, Isaiah, Ezekiel all tell you that as we approach the time of AntiChrist that there will be wars and rumors of wars.

All your efforts to stop these wars are silly.

The Battle of Armageddon will occur and nothing you can do to stop it. Socialism-Globalism will only accelerate things and will make matters worse.

Things like Freedom of Religion. Free Speech, Freedom of thought and action, and standing up for what is good and wholesome and proper may delay Judgement.

Global Warming is a joke. The Judgments Coming at the end times are 1,000 times worse than anything in these Global Warming Nuts imaginations. You aren't stopping that either.

The Earth and all the wicked works in it, and every building made by man will be destroyed at the end of the age, and the Earth will be burned by fire, and remade in to a garden of Eden for The People of God to live upon.

The only things you can do that will last forever are the things you do in Spirit and the choice you make on where to spend eternity.

Enslaving people with Socialism only hastens The End of The Age.

If your argument is that we will always be war mongers I am fine with hastening the end of the age.

He said there will always be wars. We should have never gone into Iraq. That was stupid. Iran and Iraq fighting each other was fantastic. Idiots killing idiots.

Let them fight. That's not my argument. There is nothing we can do about that. In one breath you argue we shouldn't have done something but in the next you argue it's good for creating jobs.

I said military spend is good for jobs. Endless wars are stupid. I d rather spend the funds on R&D, drones, etc. but They are endless wars for a reason. We are stuck. Thanks Bush and Cheney. Idiots

 

[LordBrownTrout]

So easily duped you are.

Did Sanders Propose Raising Taxes to 52% on Incomes Over $29,000?

The thing is, you knew this had been debunked but still felt like you have to post it.

But lets argue it was true. It's a heck of a deal. Minimum wage now is $7.25. So in this scenario people would get $7.20 but also get health care. That's a really good deal.

No, actually you would lose more money.

 

[The Original Tree]

If we spend $0 on the military we would still have a deficit. The military is not the problem. And the military creates a ton of jobs. Millions. Entitlements create nothing but wasteful spend.

The military is a part of the problem. We have spent trillions dropping bombs to then have to rebuild what we destroyed. We then complain that our infrastructure is failing. Really, you don't see that as a problem?

War spend is an issue but now we are pot committed because of Bush and I did not vote for him. I was first eligible to vote in 2000 and voted for Gore. Actually if Clinton had the balls to kill Bin Laden then 9/11 tragedy likely doesn’t happen. Shame on Clinton and shame on Bush. Obama inherited a shit storm and Trump did as well. Endless wars are terrible. Tulsi Gabbard is right and her party buried her.

I initially supported Gabbard. I'd love to see Sanders pick her as his VP. We are NOT committed to the wars. Your argument boils down to the idea that we can not afford to see that people can get health care when needed because we have to waste trillions on never ending wars.

No, I totally reject that.

Wars will never end. The Book of Revelations, Daniel, Isaiah, Ezekiel all tell you that as we approach the time of AntiChrist that there will be wars and rumors of wars.

All your efforts to stop these wars are silly.

The Battle of Armageddon will occur and nothing you can do to stop it. Socialism-Globalism will only accelerate things and will make matters worse.

Things like Freedom of Religion. Free Speech, Freedom of thought and action, and standing up for what is good and wholesome and proper may delay Judgement.

Global Warming is a joke. The Judgments Coming at the end times are 1,000 times worse than anything in these Global Warming Nuts imaginations. You aren't stopping that either.

The Earth and all the wicked works in it, and every building made by man will be destroyed at the end of the age, and the Earth will be burned by fire, and remade in to a garden of Eden for The People of God to live upon.

The only things you can do that will last forever are the things you do in Spirit and the choice you make on where to spend eternity.

Enslaving people with Socialism only hastens The End of The Age.

If your argument is that we will always be war mongers I am fine with hastening the end of the age.

It's true. As the end of the age approaches, people will become violent, pathological liars, abusers of others, involved in sexual immorality, and along with pestilences and natural disasters like Earthquakes, Volcanoes, Crazy Weather will be Wars and Rumors of Wars.

Things are going to get worse, and NOTHING Man does, even if you confiscated every penny and enslave The Whole World is going to stop it.

Only The Return of The Prince of Peace will stop it.

It's then that The World will turn their Swords in to Plowshares after Yeshua ends The Battle of Armageddon Himself and rules from The Throne of David.

 

[pknopp]

I was just told in another discussion that you are full of crap by saying it's socialism. All the same, you do.

What other discussion? Sanders is an open socialist. You’re trying to take the debate sideways because you lost.

Democratic Socialist.

Democratic socialists believe that both the economy and society should be run democratically—to meet public needs, not to make profits for a few.

What is Democratic Socialism? - Democratic Socialists of America (DSA)

1) Sanders doesn’t have a concrete plan to pay for his wishful Socialist ideas.

2) Military spend creates millions of jobs and is innovative.

How are we going to pay for it? As an aside, you are arguing to kill tens of thousands of innocent people to create jobs. That is a thoroughly disgusting position to take.

3) It’s not Trumps fault we are stuck in endless wars. He has tried to pull out but his generals suggest otherwise.

It's his call. He is the president. It's sad how nothing is ever his fault.

4) Banks did repay TARP. You said they didn’t.

No, I said it was paid back with other government programs that were never paid back.

5) Entitlement spend is the real issue.


Anything I missed?

Lots.

Banks paid everything back and more and there is zero democratic about Socialism and Sanders is a communist anyway. You’re just making stuff up now. I work in the banking market and banks have repaid all their capital injections with interest and quicker than initially anticipated.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...02fb50-572a-11ea-8753-73d96000faae_story.html

Bernie Sanders in 1972: 'I Don't Mind People ... Calling Me a Communist'

I explained how it was paid back. You refuse to acknowledge that.

It was paid back with debt and equity issuances aka the private sector. You don’t need to explain anything to me. Banks are vital to the US. They are our engine to economic success.

Right, you support bailing out the banks even though they failed which is how capitalism works but you say you support capitalism. You do not.

 

[pknopp]

I initially supported Gabbard. I'd love to see Sanders pick her as his VP. We are NOT committed to the wars. Your argument boils down to the idea that we can not afford to see that people can get health care when needed because we have to waste trillions on never ending wars.

No, I totally reject that.

Wars will never end. The Book of Revelations, Daniel, Isaiah, Ezekiel all tell you that as we approach the time of AntiChrist that there will be wars and rumors of wars.

All your efforts to stop these wars are silly.

The Battle of Armageddon will occur and nothing you can do to stop it. Socialism-Globalism will only accelerate things and will make matters worse.

Things like Freedom of Religion. Free Speech, Freedom of thought and action, and standing up for what is good and wholesome and proper may delay Judgement.

Global Warming is a joke. The Judgments Coming at the end times are 1,000 times worse than anything in these Global Warming Nuts imaginations. You aren't stopping that either.

The Earth and all the wicked works in it, and every building made by man will be destroyed at the end of the age, and the Earth will be burned by fire, and remade in to a garden of Eden for The People of God to live upon.

The only things you can do that will last forever are the things you do in Spirit and the choice you make on where to spend eternity.

Enslaving people with Socialism only hastens The End of The Age.

If your argument is that we will always be war mongers I am fine with hastening the end of the age.

He said there will always be wars. We should have never gone into Iraq. That was stupid. Iran and Iraq fighting each other was fantastic. Idiots killing idiots.

Let them fight. That's not my argument. There is nothing we can do about that. In one breath you argue we shouldn't have done something but in the next you argue it's good for creating jobs.

I said military spend is good for jobs. Endless wars are stupid. I d rather spend the funds on R&D, drones, etc. but They are endless wars for a reason. We are stuck. Thanks Bush and Cheney. Idiots

And Trump.

 

[pknopp]

The military is a part of the problem. We have spent trillions dropping bombs to then have to rebuild what we destroyed. We then complain that our infrastructure is failing. Really, you don't see that as a problem?

War spend is an issue but now we are pot committed because of Bush and I did not vote for him. I was first eligible to vote in 2000 and voted for Gore. Actually if Clinton had the balls to kill Bin Laden then 9/11 tragedy likely doesn’t happen. Shame on Clinton and shame on Bush. Obama inherited a shit storm and Trump did as well. Endless wars are terrible. Tulsi Gabbard is right and her party buried her.

I initially supported Gabbard. I'd love to see Sanders pick her as his VP. We are NOT committed to the wars. Your argument boils down to the idea that we can not afford to see that people can get health care when needed because we have to waste trillions on never ending wars.

No, I totally reject that.

Wars will never end. The Book of Revelations, Daniel, Isaiah, Ezekiel all tell you that as we approach the time of AntiChrist that there will be wars and rumors of wars.

All your efforts to stop these wars are silly.

The Battle of Armageddon will occur and nothing you can do to stop it. Socialism-Globalism will only accelerate things and will make matters worse.

Things like Freedom of Religion. Free Speech, Freedom of thought and action, and standing up for what is good and wholesome and proper may delay Judgement.

Global Warming is a joke. The Judgments Coming at the end times are 1,000 times worse than anything in these Global Warming Nuts imaginations. You aren't stopping that either.

The Earth and all the wicked works in it, and every building made by man will be destroyed at the end of the age, and the Earth will be burned by fire, and remade in to a garden of Eden for The People of God to live upon.

The only things you can do that will last forever are the things you do in Spirit and the choice you make on where to spend eternity.

Enslaving people with Socialism only hastens The End of The Age.

If your argument is that we will always be war mongers I am fine with hastening the end of the age.

It's true. As the end of the age approaches, people will become violent, pathological liars, abusers of others, involved in sexual immorality, and along with pestilences and natural disasters like Earthquakes, Volcanoes, Crazy Weather will be Wars and Rumors of Wars.

Things are going to get worse, and NOTHING Man does, even if you confiscated every penny and enslave The Whole World is going to stop it.

Only The Return of The Prince of Peace will stop it.

It's then that The World will turn their Swords in to Plowshares after Yeshua ends The Battle of Armageddon Himself and rules from The Throne of David.

You say I want to hasten that. Are you saying that is a bad thing? Are you saying that actions I take will change what is already decided? The Bible is dependent on my not wanting people to not be able to access medical care when they need it?

 

[Rigby5]

War spend is an issue but now we are pot committed because of Bush and I did not vote for him. I was first eligible to vote in 2000 and voted for Gore. Actually if Clinton had the balls to kill Bin Laden then 9/11 tragedy likely doesn’t happen. Shame on Clinton and shame on Bush. Obama inherited a shit storm and Trump did as well. Endless wars are terrible. Tulsi Gabbard is right and her party buried her.

I initially supported Gabbard. I'd love to see Sanders pick her as his VP. We are NOT committed to the wars. Your argument boils down to the idea that we can not afford to see that people can get health care when needed because we have to waste trillions on never ending wars.

No, I totally reject that.

Wars will never end. The Book of Revelations, Daniel, Isaiah, Ezekiel all tell you that as we approach the time of AntiChrist that there will be wars and rumors of wars.

All your efforts to stop these wars are silly.

The Battle of Armageddon will occur and nothing you can do to stop it. Socialism-Globalism will only accelerate things and will make matters worse.

Things like Freedom of Religion. Free Speech, Freedom of thought and action, and standing up for what is good and wholesome and proper may delay Judgement.

Global Warming is a joke. The Judgments Coming at the end times are 1,000 times worse than anything in these Global Warming Nuts imaginations. You aren't stopping that either.

The Earth and all the wicked works in it, and every building made by man will be destroyed at the end of the age, and the Earth will be burned by fire, and remade in to a garden of Eden for The People of God to live upon.

The only things you can do that will last forever are the things you do in Spirit and the choice you make on where to spend eternity.

Enslaving people with Socialism only hastens The End of The Age.

If your argument is that we will always be war mongers I am fine with hastening the end of the age.

He said there will always be wars. We should have never gone into Iraq. That was stupid. Iran and Iraq fighting each other was fantastic. Idiots killing idiots.

Let them fight. That's not my argument. There is nothing we can do about that. In one breath you argue we shouldn't have done something but in the next you argue it's good for creating jobs.

The US illlegally invaded Iraq and Afghanistan on lies.
We also destroyed the government in Libya, Egypt, Syria, and tried to ruin many other governments.
That is illegal, expensive, and evil.

 

[The Original Tree]

I initially supported Gabbard. I'd love to see Sanders pick her as his VP. We are NOT committed to the wars. Your argument boils down to the idea that we can not afford to see that people can get health care when needed because we have to waste trillions on never ending wars.

No, I totally reject that.

Wars will never end. The Book of Revelations, Daniel, Isaiah, Ezekiel all tell you that as we approach the time of AntiChrist that there will be wars and rumors of wars.

All your efforts to stop these wars are silly.

The Battle of Armageddon will occur and nothing you can do to stop it. Socialism-Globalism will only accelerate things and will make matters worse.

Things like Freedom of Religion. Free Speech, Freedom of thought and action, and standing up for what is good and wholesome and proper may delay Judgement.

Global Warming is a joke. The Judgments Coming at the end times are 1,000 times worse than anything in these Global Warming Nuts imaginations. You aren't stopping that either.

The Earth and all the wicked works in it, and every building made by man will be destroyed at the end of the age, and the Earth will be burned by fire, and remade in to a garden of Eden for The People of God to live upon.

The only things you can do that will last forever are the things you do in Spirit and the choice you make on where to spend eternity.

Enslaving people with Socialism only hastens The End of The Age.

If your argument is that we will always be war mongers I am fine with hastening the end of the age.

He said there will always be wars. We should have never gone into Iraq. That was stupid. Iran and Iraq fighting each other was fantastic. Idiots killing idiots.

Let them fight. That's not my argument. There is nothing we can do about that. In one breath you argue we shouldn't have done something but in the next you argue it's good for creating jobs.

I said military spend is good for jobs. Endless wars are stupid. I d rather spend the funds on R&D, drones, etc. but They are endless wars for a reason. We are stuck. Thanks Bush and Cheney. Idiots

We have Endless Wars because that is prophecy. Our Presidents are only managing a situation that was prophesied. Some manage it well, and some like Obama manage it poorly.
All these things we fear will increase in intensity, and man will be shown to be powerless to stop any of it.

Nothing we do is going to stop The War Machine. If we The US, completely destroyed every weapon we had, and disbanded our military, War is still coming. Armageddon is still coming.

Right now we see just a glimpse of what will come. Just a foretaste, but what is coming, No man has seen such horrific things. And it is said, if Yeshua Messiah does not return NO LIFE WOULD BE LEFT ON EARTH.

4 Horses will come.

Who Are the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse and Why Do They Matter?

The White Horse. The AntiChrist
The Red Horse. Endless War and Violence
The Black Horse. Pestilence, Disease, Famine
The Green Horse. Death & Judgment

And after these and during these many other judgments.

Tax the whole world, and you will not stop these judgments from coming.

Only prayer, and electing Godly men, or at least men who do not war with God, may delay it for a short while.

 

[MAGAman]

Tulsi would never be a VP to a Socialist. Trump didn’t start the wars and the military command is against us leaving. When Trump tried people screamed bloody murder. UH won’t work in the US until we amend the 14th amendment and solve our illegals problem AND solve our expensive education problem. Doctors come out with ~$450k of debt. They rely on free markets to get repaid not on the government.

Tulsi would be VP for a Communist. She's sold out any integrity she ever had when she decided to be a Democrat POTUS nominee.

Here's your proof:

Nobody that wants open borders and free healthcare for the 100's of millions of illegals that can afford a bus ticket gives 2 shits for America.

And there is no magic formula for making Socialist Healthcare effective. The incentive to get something free is too great. Look at people using food stamps for food working people can't afford, or fencing their cards for liquor and crack.

That which is not earned is not respected or appreciated.

Democrats are the party of Government dependence, not individual prosperity. Anyone running against that grain is decapitated quickly.

 

[Rigby5]

I was just told in another discussion that you are full of crap by saying it's socialism. All the same, you do.

What other discussion? Sanders is an open socialist. You’re trying to take the debate sideways because you lost.

Democratic Socialist.

Democratic socialists believe that both the economy and society should be run democratically—to meet public needs, not to make profits for a few.

What is Democratic Socialism? - Democratic Socialists of America (DSA)

1) Sanders doesn’t have a concrete plan to pay for his wishful Socialist ideas.

2) Military spend creates millions of jobs and is innovative.

How are we going to pay for it? As an aside, you are arguing to kill tens of thousands of innocent people to create jobs. That is a thoroughly disgusting position to take.

3) It’s not Trumps fault we are stuck in endless wars. He has tried to pull out but his generals suggest otherwise.

It's his call. He is the president. It's sad how nothing is ever his fault.

4) Banks did repay TARP. You said they didn’t.

No, I said it was paid back with other government programs that were never paid back.

5) Entitlement spend is the real issue.


Anything I missed?

Lots.

Banks paid everything back and more and there is zero democratic about Socialism and Sanders is a communist anyway. You’re just making stuff up now. I work in the banking market and banks have repaid all their capital injections with interest and quicker than initially anticipated.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...02fb50-572a-11ea-8753-73d96000faae_story.html

Bernie Sanders in 1972: 'I Don't Mind People ... Calling Me a Communist'

I explained how it was paid back. You refuse to acknowledge that.

It was paid back with debt and equity issuances aka the private sector. You don’t need to explain anything to me. Banks are vital to the US. They are our engine to economic success.

All democracies always want everything governments do to be socialist.
Nothing a good government does is for profit, like transportation, schools, fire fighting, defense, health care, etc.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

What other discussion? Sanders is an open socialist. You’re trying to take the debate sideways because you lost.

Democratic Socialist.

Democratic socialists believe that both the economy and society should be run democratically—to meet public needs, not to make profits for a few.

What is Democratic Socialism? - Democratic Socialists of America (DSA)

1) Sanders doesn’t have a concrete plan to pay for his wishful Socialist ideas.

2) Military spend creates millions of jobs and is innovative.

How are we going to pay for it? As an aside, you are arguing to kill tens of thousands of innocent people to create jobs. That is a thoroughly disgusting position to take.

3) It’s not Trumps fault we are stuck in endless wars. He has tried to pull out but his generals suggest otherwise.

It's his call. He is the president. It's sad how nothing is ever his fault.

4) Banks did repay TARP. You said they didn’t.

No, I said it was paid back with other government programs that were never paid back.

5) Entitlement spend is the real issue.


Anything I missed?

Lots.

Banks paid everything back and more and there is zero democratic about Socialism and Sanders is a communist anyway. You’re just making stuff up now. I work in the banking market and banks have repaid all their capital injections with interest and quicker than initially anticipated.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...02fb50-572a-11ea-8753-73d96000faae_story.html

Bernie Sanders in 1972: 'I Don't Mind People ... Calling Me a Communist'

I explained how it was paid back. You refuse to acknowledge that.

It was paid back with debt and equity issuances aka the private sector. You don’t need to explain anything to me. Banks are vital to the US. They are our engine to economic success.

Right, you support bailing out the banks even though they failed which is how capitalism works but you say you support capitalism. You do not.

It wasnt capitalism that failed. It was easy financing and a bundle of lies. Wasn't capitalism. Once again, your inability to think critically has caused you to arrive at your mistaken drivel.

 

[pknopp]

Democratic Socialist.

Democratic socialists believe that both the economy and society should be run democratically—to meet public needs, not to make profits for a few.

What is Democratic Socialism? - Democratic Socialists of America (DSA)

How are we going to pay for it? As an aside, you are arguing to kill tens of thousands of innocent people to create jobs. That is a thoroughly disgusting position to take.

It's his call. He is the president. It's sad how nothing is ever his fault.

No, I said it was paid back with other government programs that were never paid back.

Lots.

Banks paid everything back and more and there is zero democratic about Socialism and Sanders is a communist anyway. You’re just making stuff up now. I work in the banking market and banks have repaid all their capital injections with interest and quicker than initially anticipated.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...02fb50-572a-11ea-8753-73d96000faae_story.html

Bernie Sanders in 1972: 'I Don't Mind People ... Calling Me a Communist'

I explained how it was paid back. You refuse to acknowledge that.

It was paid back with debt and equity issuances aka the private sector. You don’t need to explain anything to me. Banks are vital to the US. They are our engine to economic success.

Right, you support bailing out the banks even though they failed which is how capitalism works but you say you support capitalism. You do not.

It wasnt capitalism that failed. It was easy financing and a bundle of lies. Wasn't capitalism. Once again, your inability to think critically has caused you to arrive at your mistaken drivel.

It was a quid pro quo. Socialism bailed the banks out.

 

[Rigby5]

So easily duped you are.

Did Sanders Propose Raising Taxes to 52% on Incomes Over $29,000?

The thing is, you knew this had been debunked but still felt like you have to post it.

But lets argue it was true. It's a heck of a deal. Minimum wage now is $7.25. So in this scenario people would get $7.20 but also get health care. That's a really good deal.

No, actually you would lose more money.

Wrong.
Minimum wage jobs do not come with health care, and if you try to buy it yourself, you get the worst possible rates.
Close to $1000/month if you do not get an ACA subsidy.
People work about 160 hours a month, so insurance costs about $6.25 an hour.
So free health care means you get paid the additional benefit worth $6.25/hour.

 

[Ken Mac]

So easily duped you are.

Did Sanders Propose Raising Taxes to 52% on Incomes Over $29,000?

The thing is, you knew this had been debunked but still felt like you have to post it.

But lets argue it was true. It's a heck of a deal. Minimum wage now is $7.25. So in this scenario people would get $7.20 but also get health care. That's a really good deal.

According to your article, assuming it is true because Snopes is a far left source:

BUTTIGIEG: [Sanders] was a congressman at the time. And the qualities I admired then are qualities I still respect a great deal. I never said that I agree with every part of his policy views, then or now. But I appreciate that at least he’s straightforward and honest about them. He’s honest about the fact that taxes will go up on anybody making more than $29,000 to fund his health care plan, although, again, a little bit vague about how the rest of that gets …

SANDERS: You’re not being honest. Premiums would be eliminated.

BUTTIGIEG: But you’re still raising those taxes. And when you do it…

SANDERS: But we’re saving people money because they don’t pay any premiums, out-of-pocket expenses, co-payments, or deductibles. They’re going to be much better off. [applause]

BUTTIGIEG: But where is — where is the other $25 trillion supposed to come from? At a certain point, you’ve got to do the math.

SANDERS: Well, we got it all up there on the internet. It’s a payroll tax — a payroll tax…

[crosstalk]

BUTTIGIEG: Well, no, but even after the payroll tax, you still have a hole.

[crosstalk]

SANDERS: Because we have a wealth tax. Elizabeth [Warren] has a good one. Ours is a little bit tougher on Mr. Bloomberg than hers. We’re going to raise it in a progressive way, which deals with income and wealth inequality, and makes certain, finally, that health care in this country is a human right, not a privilege.

So Sanders is going to pay for all this from the "rich"? The combined wealth of Billionaires is only $2.4 trillion and could only fund the US federal government about half a year.

Sanders and The Democrats are out to Bankrupt America.

You cannot extract $200 Trillion of Government Spending out of just a $20 Trillion Economy.

Not only that, but the entire wealth of the people of the United states combined is < 100T


so even taking all of the wealth doesn't work either.

t'he math doesn't fucking work.

 

[Rigby5]

Democratic Socialist.

Democratic socialists believe that both the economy and society should be run democratically—to meet public needs, not to make profits for a few.

What is Democratic Socialism? - Democratic Socialists of America (DSA)

How are we going to pay for it? As an aside, you are arguing to kill tens of thousands of innocent people to create jobs. That is a thoroughly disgusting position to take.

It's his call. He is the president. It's sad how nothing is ever his fault.

No, I said it was paid back with other government programs that were never paid back.

Lots.

Banks paid everything back and more and there is zero democratic about Socialism and Sanders is a communist anyway. You’re just making stuff up now. I work in the banking market and banks have repaid all their capital injections with interest and quicker than initially anticipated.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...02fb50-572a-11ea-8753-73d96000faae_story.html

Bernie Sanders in 1972: 'I Don't Mind People ... Calling Me a Communist'

I explained how it was paid back. You refuse to acknowledge that.

It was paid back with debt and equity issuances aka the private sector. You don’t need to explain anything to me. Banks are vital to the US. They are our engine to economic success.

Right, you support bailing out the banks even though they failed which is how capitalism works but you say you support capitalism. You do not.

It wasnt capitalism that failed. It was easy financing and a bundle of lies. Wasn't capitalism. Once again, your inability to think critically has caused you to arrive at your mistaken drivel.

Yes it was capitalism that failed when the real estate housing market dropped.
The buyers had been sold deliberately deceptive adjustable mortgages based on the British LIBOR instead of the US prime, and then the LIBOR was fraudulently manipulated to almost double their payments.
The LIBOR Scandal

 

[Rigby5]

So easily duped you are.

Did Sanders Propose Raising Taxes to 52% on Incomes Over $29,000?

The thing is, you knew this had been debunked but still felt like you have to post it.

But lets argue it was true. It's a heck of a deal. Minimum wage now is $7.25. So in this scenario people would get $7.20 but also get health care. That's a really good deal.

According to your article, assuming it is true because Snopes is a far left source:

BUTTIGIEG: [Sanders] was a congressman at the time. And the qualities I admired then are qualities I still respect a great deal. I never said that I agree with every part of his policy views, then or now. But I appreciate that at least he’s straightforward and honest about them. He’s honest about the fact that taxes will go up on anybody making more than $29,000 to fund his health care plan, although, again, a little bit vague about how the rest of that gets …

SANDERS: You’re not being honest. Premiums would be eliminated.

BUTTIGIEG: But you’re still raising those taxes. And when you do it…

SANDERS: But we’re saving people money because they don’t pay any premiums, out-of-pocket expenses, co-payments, or deductibles. They’re going to be much better off. [applause]

BUTTIGIEG: But where is — where is the other $25 trillion supposed to come from? At a certain point, you’ve got to do the math.

SANDERS: Well, we got it all up there on the internet. It’s a payroll tax — a payroll tax…

[crosstalk]

BUTTIGIEG: Well, no, but even after the payroll tax, you still have a hole.

[crosstalk]

SANDERS: Because we have a wealth tax. Elizabeth [Warren] has a good one. Ours is a little bit tougher on Mr. Bloomberg than hers. We’re going to raise it in a progressive way, which deals with income and wealth inequality, and makes certain, finally, that health care in this country is a human right, not a privilege.

So Sanders is going to pay for all this from the "rich"? The combined wealth of Billionaires is only $2.4 trillion and could only fund the US federal government about half a year.

Sanders and The Democrats are out to Bankrupt America.

You cannot extract $200 Trillion of Government Spending out of just a $20 Trillion Economy.

Not only that, but the entire wealth of the people of the United states combined is < 100T


so even taking all of the wealth doesn't work either.

t'he math doesn't fucking work.

Sanders continually explains that his programs save money and therefore cost nothing more.
For example, Medicare for all would cost less than half what we pay now in private health insurance.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Banks paid everything back and more and there is zero democratic about Socialism and Sanders is a communist anyway. You’re just making stuff up now. I work in the banking market and banks have repaid all their capital injections with interest and quicker than initially anticipated.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...02fb50-572a-11ea-8753-73d96000faae_story.html

Bernie Sanders in 1972: 'I Don't Mind People ... Calling Me a Communist'

I explained how it was paid back. You refuse to acknowledge that.

It was paid back with debt and equity issuances aka the private sector. You don’t need to explain anything to me. Banks are vital to the US. They are our engine to economic success.

Right, you support bailing out the banks even though they failed which is how capitalism works but you say you support capitalism. You do not.

It wasnt capitalism that failed. It was easy financing and a bundle of lies. Wasn't capitalism. Once again, your inability to think critically has caused you to arrive at your mistaken drivel.

Yes it was capitalism that failed when the real estate housing market dropped.
The buyers had been sold deliberately deceptive adjustable mortgages based on the British LIBOR instead of the US prime, and then the LIBOR was fraudulently manipulated to almost double their payments.
The LIBOR Scandal

No, it wasn't.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

So easily duped you are.

Did Sanders Propose Raising Taxes to 52% on Incomes Over $29,000?

The thing is, you knew this had been debunked but still felt like you have to post it.

But lets argue it was true. It's a heck of a deal. Minimum wage now is $7.25. So in this scenario people would get $7.20 but also get health care. That's a really good deal.

No, actually you would lose more money.

Wrong.
Minimum wage jobs do not come with health care, and if you try to buy it yourself, you get the worst possible rates.
Close to $1000/month if you do not get an ACA subsidy.
People work about 160 hours a month, so insurance costs about $6.25 an hour.
So free health care means you get paid the additional benefit worth $6.25/hour.

No, actually you would lose money under his authoritarian state rule.